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Post by adospencer on Feb 23, 2023 8:00:59 GMT
I've been a Tull fan for more than 50 years and what really has turned me off for the last few records is the only consistent lead instrument is Ian's voice, spouting almost spoken lyrics that are not in any way catchy. Remember when Tull songs were so musical, exciting and featured long instrumental sections that rocked! Powerful and very moving guitar, organ and flute solos in most every song. Ian seems determined now to get some spoken message across with the band serving only as some sort of rhythm for his lyrics like a soundtrack in the background. I never fully understood what Ian was singing about and I've heard him say he deliberately wrote his lyrics to be open to interpretation, but they were beautiful and catchy, they touched the heart, now I really don't care what he's going on about. I too hope the Rokflot will be more back to form but from the snippets I've heard it's just more of the same. Ian Anderson has created the best music I've heard in my life for half a century and I am extremely grateful to him but I just can't pretend to much enjoy what he's been putting out for years, especially since Martin left. I agree with this 100 per cent. I've loved Tull since 1972 , a big part of my life and always so very special , each album and tour a real event. The last album that seemed like proper Tull was "Dot Com". Ian's lyrics were always wonderful, inviting us in to come to our own conclusions , the interplay between the instrumentals rewarded repeated playing. Now it is unfortunate that his voice has faded, but this has led to a series of albums of near spoken word ,always lagging slightly behind the beat .Ian was always the perfectionist and must know that he just cant sing anymore, is it his ego that prevents him from letting someone else do the singing? The shared vocals in concert just make his voice seem worse. The lyrics are no longer open to interpretation ,instead being a series of statements ,often little more than a list. I blame his changed style of working , as he says he now sits down on a certain date and forces himself to write ,rather than waiting for the muse to visit as previously. Its quite telling that his interviews that were always interesting now are very much of the "old guy who knows best giving us a lecture" type and I don't listen to them very often anymore. The band now could be anyone, anonymously playing by numbers, the instrumentation flat and predictable (though to be fair, Joe is much more suited to the Tull style than ever Florian with his string bending ruining of "Budapest" et al was). Its a difficult one. Tull have been too big a part of my life to just lose interest, but I hardly play the last few albums. Id still like to be pleasantly surprised and will of course buy the new release, but I don't expect to get much out of it. I'm pleased we still have him of course, and he cant help getting older, with all its limitations, but we see our own mortality mirrored too and its a bittersweet pill. To those who still have enthusiasm and love anything IA does, I'm pleased for you, back in the day I felt the same, but that ship sailed some time ago. All I have is a Shadow.  |
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 23, 2023 11:35:23 GMT
 It's 2023 and JETHRO TULL ROCKS !!!! I cannot return to 1973 or any year previously.
My joy from the music, lyrics and performance of Ian Anderson is REAL 
If I listened to any other band it would mean the same as to what I expect.
The creation of new music and songs since 2012 is worth every moment to me.
I cannot speak for everyone but... I AM VERY HAPPY 
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Post by tinkletron on Feb 23, 2023 16:33:43 GMT
Ah, it's nice to see Ian and Shona together in a picture from a personal collection.
After moving into a new house and having so many things displaced and mysteriously stored, it was nice to happen upon my pictures from the Auqualung XM studio event. That was a lifetime ago!
Slightly out of place but chiming in none the less, I finally got around to listening to The Zealot Gene last week. Well, most of it. I was quite surprised with the 5 tracks that Ian recorded alone. I shouldn't have been. That is where he shines. In fact, my only real criticism of the newer works is letting the band have their moments. Ian should simply write every part and dictate them. Or just go acoustic solo. Having said that, Mine is the Mountain was fantastic and so unique for a "Tull" song, and I have to imagine that John O'Hara had a huge influence over the final sound. It's all there in the demo, but he added a wonderful, unique sound.
Oh! In case any of you Yanks missed it, my ex wife texted me this morning that Tull are playing at Wolf Trap in Virginia. The only US show! See you there.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 25, 2023 19:16:59 GMT
Good Video. He seems less 'promoting' and more laid-back and subdued. |
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 25, 2023 19:42:48 GMT
I've been a Tull fan for more than 50 years and what really has turned me off for the last few records is the only consistent lead instrument is Ian's voice, spouting almost spoken lyrics that are not in any way catchy. Remember when Tull songs were so musical, exciting and featured long instrumental sections that rocked! Powerful and very moving guitar, organ and flute solos in most every song. Ian seems determined now to get some spoken message across with the band serving only as some sort of rhythm for his lyrics like a soundtrack in the background. I never fully understood what Ian was singing about and I've heard him say he deliberately wrote his lyrics to be open to interpretation, but they were beautiful and catchy, they touched the heart, now I really don't care what he's going on about. I too hope the Rokflot will be more back to form but from the snippets I've heard it's just more of the same. Ian Anderson has created the best music I've heard in my life for half a century and I am extremely grateful to him but I just can't pretend to much enjoy what he's been putting out for years, especially since Martin left. I agree with this 100 per cent. I've loved Tull since 1972 , a big part of my life and always so very special , each album and tour a real event. The last album that seemed like proper Tull was "Dot Com". Ian's lyrics were always wonderful, inviting us in to come to our own conclusions , the interplay between the instrumentals rewarded repeated playing. Now it is unfortunate that his voice has faded, but this has led to a series of albums of near spoken word ,always lagging slightly behind the beat .Ian was always the perfectionist and must know that he just cant sing anymore, is it his ego that prevents him from letting someone else do the singing? The shared vocals in concert just make his voice seem worse. The lyrics are no longer open to interpretation ,instead being a series of statements ,often little more than a list. I blame his changed style of working , as he says he now sits down on a certain date and forces himself to write ,rather than waiting for the muse to visit as previously. Its quite telling that his interviews that were always interesting now are very much of the "old guy who knows best giving us a lecture" type and I don't listen to them very often anymore. The band now could be anyone, anonymously playing by numbers, the instrumentation flat and predictable (though to be fair, Joe is much more suited to the Tull style than ever Florian with his string bending ruining of "Budapest" et al was). Its a difficult one. Tull have been too big a part of my life to just lose interest, but I hardly play the last few albums. Id still like to be pleasantly surprised and will of course buy the new release, but I don't expect to get much out of it. I'm pleased we still have him of course, and he cant help getting older, with all its limitations, but we see our own mortality mirrored too and its a bittersweet pill. To those who still have enthusiasm and love anything IA does, I'm pleased for you, back in the day I felt the same, but that ship sailed some time ago. All I have is a Shadow.
As a Tull fan for many years, I couldn't say I liked all the albums; that would be rare. For me, the recent ones are merging into one long song.
I appreciate Ian's talent and the musicians associated with the band; however, I wish he would be more imaginative and give more creativity and input to them.
This point has been discussed over the years. |
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Post by tullabye on Feb 26, 2023 5:06:05 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 27, 2023 2:43:52 GMT
Wow, Tinkletron, ex-wife alerting you to Tull gigs...was that in the pre-nup or just civilized? My ex wife wouldn't tell me if fans were on sale in hell.
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Post by tullabye on Feb 28, 2023 15:41:47 GMT
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Post by bunkerfan on Feb 28, 2023 16:12:14 GMT
Hi tullabye, The video you posted was posted a few hours earlier by JTull 007 which is probably why there was no response but thanks for your contribution. Cheers bunkerfan JTull 007's post jethrotull.proboards.com/post/92751 |
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Post by tullabye on Feb 28, 2023 17:04:55 GMT
Hi tullabye, The video you posted was posted a few hours earlier by JTull 007 which is probably why there was no response but thanks for your contribution. Cheers bunkerfan JTull 007's post jethrotull.proboards.com/post/92751Under what thread? I don’t see it. |
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Post by tinkletron on Feb 28, 2023 17:22:06 GMT
Wow, Tinkletron, ex-wife alerting you to Tull gigs...was that in the pre-nup or just civilized? My ex wife wouldn't tell me if fans were on sale in hell. Heh! We grew up as Tull fans together and have kept things civilized. After 15 years of seeing countless Tull shows together, it seemed weird to see the 50th Anniversary tour alone. So I offered to buy her a ticket. It will be nice to enjoy one last Tull show in company. Let's just not let the new girlfriend know. |
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 28, 2023 17:24:23 GMT
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Post by tinkletron on Feb 28, 2023 17:29:10 GMT
Personally, I'm trying to avoid it so to have the fist listen on that sweet lossless blu-ray. In Dolby Atmos! Credits to Ian for keeping up with the technology. I feel like he doesn't even have a proper sound system anywhere in Tull Towers. That is so Ian. |
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Post by tullabye on Feb 28, 2023 18:15:59 GMT
cool…makes sense lol…thanks much! |
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Post by tullabye on Mar 1, 2023 20:10:03 GMT
cool…makes sense lol…thanks much! Out of curiosity why are new threads showing up on pg 2 of 3? It seems like they should either be on page 1 or page 3? |
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Post by JTull 007 on Mar 2, 2023 2:05:02 GMT
cool…makes sense lol…thanks much! Out of curiosity why are new threads showing up on pg 2 of 3? It seems like they should either be on page 1 or page 3? |
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Post by rredmond on Mar 13, 2023 10:37:23 GMT
Out of curiosity why are new threads showing up on pg 2 of 3? It seems like they should either be on page 1 or page 3? There are a lot of “stickied” threads in that forum. To keep them organized.  |
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Post by char1 on Mar 14, 2023 1:31:00 GMT
Ah, it's nice to see Ian and Shona together in a picture from a personal collection. After moving into a new house and having so many things displaced and mysteriously stored, it was nice to happen upon my pictures from the Auqualung XM studio event. That was a lifetime ago! Slightly out of place but chiming in none the less, I finally got around to listening to The Zealot Gene last week. Well, most of it. I was quite surprised with the 5 tracks that Ian recorded alone. I shouldn't have been. That is where he shines. In fact, my only real criticism of the newer works is letting the band have their moments. Ian should simply write every part and dictate them. Or just go acoustic solo. Having said that, Mine is the Mountain was fantastic and so unique for a "Tull" song, and I have to imagine that John O'Hara had a huge influence over the final sound. It's all there in the demo, but he added a wonderful, unique sound. Oh! In case any of you Yanks missed it, my ex wife texted me this morning that Tull are playing at Wolf Trap in Virginia. The only US show! See you there. |
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 15, 2023 20:37:53 GMT
A San Diego show has snuck out, too. like Wolf Trap. part of a series so word gets out before single tickets on sale
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It's 2023 and JETHRO TULL ROCKS !!!! 
