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Post by cecil on May 13, 2021 8:50:17 GMT
I replaced Batteries not included with Coruisk. It’s a classic Tull album now lol Oh well....I completely disagree mate, I think that new track "Coruisk", is horrible and deserved to be left out at the time, it's all a bit desperate for me, too fake...at least Batteries had some melody...... Good album though... I love Coruisk lol
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Post by JTull 007 on May 13, 2021 10:49:57 GMT
A ( LA MODE) CORUISKademar fagundes 398 subscribers Jethro Tull - Coruisk - Original Album and Associated Tracks (2021) - The 40th Anniversary Edition Jogi Neumann It's a GREAT TIME to be a TULL FAN LOVE IT !!! They checked the systems through and they read ‘A’ - ok” 😉 That’s this weekends entertainment sorted! I always loved this album and I am looking forward to explore the adventures that this '40th Anniversary Set’ is holding for me (and all my fellow Tullies around the world)!
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Post by jackinthegreen on May 14, 2021 0:05:08 GMT
Has Tull/Ian ever released anything that you didn't like?
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Post by jackinthegreen on May 14, 2021 0:08:46 GMT
Oh well....I completely disagree mate, I think that new track "Coruisk", is horrible and deserved to be left out at the time, it's all a bit desperate for me, too fake...at least Batteries had some melody...... Good album though... I’m groovin on Coruisk. Really think it should have replaced 4WD, which although good, seemed a bit out of place. 4WD is another filler, IMHO not a good song..
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Post by steelmonkey on May 14, 2021 0:26:19 GMT
yeah. song about buying a jeep from a guy and how fun it will be did not touch me deep in my soul.
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Post by jackinthegreen on May 14, 2021 0:34:51 GMT
yeah. song about buying a jeep from a guy and how fun it will be did not touch me deep in my soul. The first ten or more Tull albums, every track was good, but at some point, there was some dodgy one or two lol, I think you have to be honest, I'm a huge fan, but if I was playing a song to someone to try to give someone a sense of what the band is about, it wouldn't be one of those...but we all like different things I guess.....
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Post by JTull 007 on May 14, 2021 1:04:40 GMT
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Post by cecil on May 14, 2021 12:07:23 GMT
I’m groovin on Coruisk. Really think it should have replaced 4WD, which although good, seemed a bit out of place. 4WD is another filler, IMHO not a good song.. I like it. Batteries is a bit of a dud though
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Post by Essan on May 14, 2021 14:02:57 GMT
There was nothing Steve Wilson could do that would make me like Batteries or Uniform - 2 of Ian's worse songs IMO. And whilst I like it, I think Protect & Survive would have been better saved for Walk Into Light, perhaps with 4WD joining it. I'd replace those 4 tracks with re-recorded versions of Crossword, Jack-a-Lynn and Kelpie - which I think would've fitted well and would have made A into a great Jethro Tull album
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Post by Essan on May 14, 2021 14:05:58 GMT
I would then have re-ordered the tracklisting:
Sida 1: Black Sunday Working John, Working Joe Crossfire (extended version) Pine Martin's Jig
Side 2: Crossword Fylingdale Flyer Jack-a-Lynn Kelpie And Further On
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Post by adospencer on May 14, 2021 14:45:03 GMT
For what its worth, I think "Coruisk" is interesting but poor , it lacks cohesion and melody, easy to see why it was left off the album. As much as I am enjoying the A" remix, Ill always see it as one of Tulls weaker efforts. I tend to retrospectively judge each album by how many tracks on each that I don't like. Sometimes I like every song ("Songs from the wood", or "Crest" for example) Occasionally of course I do dislike a song ,but not usually more than one per album. The thing about "A" then is that it contains three really weak songs. (Batteries, Uniform, 4WD) . I remember when I first bought it (vinyl back then of course) they were all on side 2, which made it a real let down to flip the disc. Just to defend the rest of "A", "Black Sunday" is sensational , "Fylingdale Flyer " , "And Further on" are excellent .
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Post by cecil on May 14, 2021 21:17:46 GMT
I’ll rate the songs from the remix in my altered track list Crossfire 9/10 was a 7/10 Fylingdale flyer 9/10 Working John 9/10 was a 7/10 Black Sunday 8.5/10 Protect and survive 8/10 Coruisk 9/10 Uniform 9/10 4wd 8/10 Pine Martens 8/10 And further on 9/10 I like this slightly more than SFTW set. Crossfire and Working John are getting repeated listens and they’re great. My very fave sets are Stormwatch, Horses, Aqualung and Passion. All 6 sets 5 star and on par with TAAB now
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Post by steelmonkey on May 15, 2021 20:56:58 GMT
Black Sunday back in set list ( Played twice in Spain on precise eve of Covid Closedown) is/was wonderful news and, I hope, remains true if/when the Tull tour revs up again. Black Sunday will always be in my Tull top ten.
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Post by cecil on May 16, 2021 2:06:25 GMT
Black Sunday back in set list ( Played twice in Spain on precise eve of Covid Closedown) is/was wonderful news and, I hope, remains true if/when the Tull tour revs up again. Black Sunday will always be in my Tull top ten. Pretty good tune. Never been wild about the verses. The other bits are cool though.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 16, 2021 7:58:05 GMT
Jethro Tull's "A" By Jon Kirkman 1,379 views•April 16, 2021 Jon Kirkman 88 subscribers
Jethro Tull - Black Sunday - Live at Los Angeles Sports Arena 1980 2,335 views•April 21, 2021 Rock Legacy
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Post by maddogfagin on May 27, 2021 13:15:04 GMT
burningshed.com/index.php?_route_=store/jethrotull/A (Steven Wilson Remix) (Crystal Clear) Availability: 09-07-2021 A 2021 extremely limited clear vinyl edition of one of Jethro Tull’s most radical musical departures. Vinyl - Availability: 09-07-2021 Single CD - Availability: 09-07-2021 For more details and prices click on the link above or on the Burning Shed button on the navigation bar on the main page.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 1, 2021 6:16:54 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 15, 2021 6:02:07 GMT
knox.villagesoup.com/p/live-concerts-from-jethro-tull-new-order-and-tribute-efforts/1893097Live concerts from Jethro Tull, New Order and tribute effortsBy Tom Von Malder | Jun 13, 2021 OWLS HEAD — Jethro Tull: A: A La Mode The 40th Anniversary Edition (1980, Chrysalis, 3 CDs + 3 DVDs). No one would ever call “A” a very good Jethro Tull album, as none of its songs have become classics, but the presentation in this box set is superb, especially with Steven Wilson’s stereo remix of the Nov. 12, 1980 live show at the LA Sports Arena and the 104-page book’s extensive article by Martin Webb on recording and touring the album, with contributions by band members Ian Anderson, Martin Barre, Dave Pegg and Eddie Jobson. There also is track-by-track annotation by Anderson and lyrics for the album. In several ways, the album marked a new direction for Jethro Tull leader Anderson; in fact, it started out as a solo album, which Anderson intended to make with a new band – not that Jethro Tull had broken up, as screamed the headlines in several of the music periodicals at the time. Drummer Barrie Barlow had already quit the band and several others had their own projects they wanted to work on during the band’s hiatus. Anderson first turned to keyboardist/violinist Jobson (Roxy Music, Frank Zappa), an American whose band UK had opened for Jethro Tull on a recent tour. Bassist Pegg had already been part of Tull’s touring band and Jobson suggested drummer Mark Craney. In the accompanying book, Anderson says he became afraid Jobson’s keyboard input would take over the project, so he decided to add some guitar and Jethro Tull’s Barre just happened to be available. Still, it was going to be a solo release until the band’s label, Chrysalis, insisted otherwise. Jobson insisted he be called a special guest, but he did agree to tour in support of the album. The standout tracks on the album, which Wilson also remixed, are ‘Crossfire,” inspired by the S.A.S. rescue of most of the hostages from the Iranian Embassy in London in May 1980, and “Black Sunday,” inspired by touring fatigue. The first CD also includes five associated tracks, including an extended “Crossfire” and the “Slipstream” introduction. All five see their first release, as does the complete Los Angeles concert, which takes up the second and third CDs. The live show, the last date of their North American tour (two selections, however, are from the previous night), includes seven of the 10 selections form the “A” album, including an instrumental, “The Pine Marten’s Jig,” which Anderson introduces by saying they have yet to get it done right in live performance. The show also opens with the “Slipstream” musical introduction. In concert, “Black Sunday” is explosive. Highlights from the back catalog include “Songs from the Wood,” “Heavy Horses,” “Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day,” “Bungle in the Jungle,” a 9:48 “Aqualung” and “Locomotive Breath.” As usual, there is quite a bit of soloing. The first audio DVD includes the 2020 album remix and the five associated tracks (3 in surround) in DTS and Dolby AC3 5.1 surround and stereo 96/24 LPCM and flat transfer of the original album master in 96/24 LPCM. The second audio DVD includes Wilson’s 2020 mix of the concert in in DTS and Dolby AC3 5.1 surround and stereo 96/24 LPCM. The third DVD is video and contains the complete “Slipstream” promotional video (57 min.), with the audio tracks remixed by Wilson in DTS and Dolby AC3 5.1 surround and stereo 48/24 LPCM. It was originally released in August 1981 and combines live material from the LA Sports Arena show with artsy videos, directed by David Mallet, with art direction by Peter Wagg. There are videos for “Stormwatch,” the new album’s “Fylingdale Flyer,” “Sweet Dreams” with a creepy vampire motif, and the band made up to be old for “Too Old to Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young to Die.” From the live LA show are “Black Sunday,” “Songs from the Wood,” “Heavy Horses” with Jobson’s violin solo, “Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day,” “Aqualung” and the closing “Locomotive Breath/ Instrumental/ Black Sunday (reprise).” Additional material in the book includes drummer Craney interviewed in 1989 by Doane Perry; an interview with Wilson on his mixing of the album and the live show; Mallet discussing the filming of “Slipstream” and his career in music videos; an interview with art director/ ”Slipstream” executive producer Wagg; a recording and touring chronology; and rare photos and memorabilia. The book, which also house the discs, is similar to the previous albums’ anniversary releases, slightly larger than the usual paperback, but with a hard cover. Grade: album B, live show A-, total package A+
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 25, 2021 21:48:12 GMT
Uploaded on Dec 22, 2008 - Aqualung71 Shropshire pine marten sighting is the first in a century16 July 2015 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-33549202The first confirmed sighting of a wild pine marten in England for over a century has been recorded in a Shropshire woodland. An amateur photographer spotted the mammal, thought to be extinct, in early July, and passed photos to the Shropshire Wildlife Trust. There have been numerous reports in the county, but trust mammal expert Stuart Edmunds was able to verify the image. He said the animals may have been living in the area for years. "There is now a possibility that they may have been living here right under our noses for a long time," Mr Edmunds said. Scottish population Pine martens are nocturnal, house cat-sized members of the stoat and weasel family. There is a healthy population of at least 4,000 pine martens in Scotland, and small numbers live around Snowdonia, in Wales. The wildlife trust believes the Shropshire marten had moved across from Wales. ...and one day when the oil barons have all dripped dry.....
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 25, 2021 23:40:00 GMT
Good news that Steve Wilson is going to continue the remixes. I'll especially look forward to Broadsword because I really liked the album AND the associated recordings. "A" has a few gems, but I've always considered it one of their weaker albums. My least favorite JT album(By far!) is "Under Wraps", I was not a fan of the drum machine and the excessive use of keyboards. I agree that album is begging for a complete do over which would mean recording live drums and either burying the keyboards deeper into the mix or eliminate them altogether. Don't think that will happen since many are still happy with the 1984 mix and the dramatically different musical style they attempted. "...since many are still happy with the 1984 mix..." Now, that's unconditional love! But, just imagine how many thousands of fans listened to Under Wraps twice and just returned it to the record store, saying something like "It's scratched. Can I trade it in for Grace Under Pressure?" As for me, I stuck it out. I listened to Under Wraps over and over and over and over...and then, I dealt with it at the live show. There Ian was, hitting the keyboard with one hand and holding the flute with the other hand (Lap of Luxury, I believe it was). Well.....we survived the Under Wraps craze of the mid-80's.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 25, 2021 23:42:35 GMT
Should have called it "A: Salvation A LA Mode"
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Post by cecil on Jun 26, 2021 4:34:25 GMT
Good news that Steve Wilson is going to continue the remixes. I'll especially look forward to Broadsword because I really liked the album AND the associated recordings. "A" has a few gems, but I've always considered it one of their weaker albums. My least favorite JT album(By far!) is "Under Wraps", I was not a fan of the drum machine and the excessive use of keyboards. I agree that album is begging for a complete do over which would mean recording live drums and either burying the keyboards deeper into the mix or eliminate them altogether. Don't think that will happen since many are still happy with the 1984 mix and the dramatically different musical style they attempted. "...since many are still happy with the 1984 mix..." Now, that's unconditional love! But, just imagine how many thousands of fans listened to Under Wraps twice and just returned it to the record store, saying something like "It's scratched. Can I trade it in for Grace Under Pressure?" As for me, I stuck it out. I listened to Under Wraps over and over and over and over...and then, I dealt with it at the live show. There Ian was, hitting the keyboard with one hand and holding the flute with the other hand (Lap of Luxury, I believe it was). Well.....we survived the Under Wraps craze of the mid-80's. I’m looking forward to what Wilson will do with the next 2 albums. Needs to really tone down the drums on both. 81-82 has a bit too much reverb and volume in parts and 83-84 a bit too much high and low frequencies. These 2 albums will benefit more than the previous albums from a remix. Hopefully he can remix Crest and Rock as well. Drums need work on those too.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 10, 2021 9:28:19 GMT
knox.villagesoup.com/2021/06/13/live-concerts-from-jethro-tull-new-order-and-tribute-efforts/Posted June 13 Updated July 2 Live concerts from Jethro Tull, New Order and tribute efforts Tom Von Malder of Owls Head has reviewed music since 1972, just after graduation from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism. He has reviewed videos/DVDs since 1988. His columns, VidVues and Tom's Picks, have been a fixture in The Courier-Gazette since 1979. He also writes about television and books on occasion.BY VIDVUES/TOM'S PICKS Sharefacebooktweetredditemailprint Tom Von Malder of Owls Head has reviewed music since 1972, just after graduation from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism. He has reviewed videos/DVDs since 1988. OWLS HEAD — Jethro Tull: A: A La Mode The 40th Anniversary Edition (1980, Chrysalis, 3 CDs + 3 DVDs). No one would ever call “A” a very good Jethro Tull album, as none of its songs have become classics, but the presentation in this box set is superb, especially with Steven Wilson’s stereo remix of the Nov. 12, 1980 live show at the LA Sports Arena and the 104-page book’s extensive article by Martin Webb on recording and touring the album, with contributions by band members Ian Anderson, Martin Barre, Dave Pegg and Eddie Jobson. There also is track-by-track annotation by Anderson and lyrics for the album. In several ways, the album marked a new direction for Jethro Tull leader Anderson; in fact, it started out as a solo album, which Anderson intended to make with a new band – not that Jethro Tull had broken up, as screamed the headlines in several of the music periodicals at the time. Drummer Barrie Barlow had already quit the band and several others had their own projects they wanted to work on during the band’s hiatus. Anderson first turned to keyboardist/violinist Jobson (Roxy Music, Frank Zappa), an American whose band UK had opened for Jethro Tull on a recent tour. Bassist Pegg had already been part of Tull’s touring band and Jobson suggested drummer Mark Craney. In the accompanying book, Anderson says he became afraid Jobson’s keyboard input would take over the project, so he decided to add some guitar and Jethro Tull’s Barre just happened to be available. Still, it was going to be a solo release until the band’s label, Chrysalis, insisted otherwise. Jobson insisted he be called a special guest, but he did agree to tour in support of the album. The standout tracks on the album, which Wilson also remixed, are ‘Crossfire,” inspired by the S.A.S. rescue of most of the hostages from the Iranian Embassy in London in May 1980, and “Black Sunday,” inspired by touring fatigue. The first CD also includes five associated tracks, including an extended “Crossfire” and the “Slipstream” introduction. All five see their first release, as does the complete Los Angeles concert, which takes up the second and third CDs. The live show, the last date of their North American tour (two selections, however, are from the previous night), includes seven of the 10 selections form the “A” album, including an instrumental, “The Pine Marten’s Jig,” which Anderson introduces by saying they have yet to get it done right in live performance. The show also opens with the “Slipstream” musical introduction. In concert, “Black Sunday” is explosive. Highlights from the back catalog include “Songs from the Wood,” “Heavy Horses,” “Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day,” “Bungle in the Jungle,” a 9:48 “Aqualung” and “Locomotive Breath.” As usual, there is quite a bit of soloing. The first audio DVD includes the 2020 album remix and the five associated tracks (3 in surround) in DTS and Dolby AC3 5.1 surround and stereo 96/24 LPCM and flat transfer of the original album master in 96/24 LPCM. The second audio DVD includes Wilson’s 2020 mix of the concert in in DTS and Dolby AC3 5.1 surround and stereo 96/24 LPCM. The third DVD is video and contains the complete “Slipstream” promotional video (57 min.), with the audio tracks remixed by Wilson in DTS and Dolby AC3 5.1 surround and stereo 48/24 LPCM. It was originally released in August 1981 and combines live material from the LA Sports Arena show with artsy videos, directed by David Mallet, with art direction by Peter Wagg. There are videos for “Stormwatch,” the new album’s “Fylingdale Flyer,” “Sweet Dreams” with a creepy vampire motif, and the band made up to be old for “Too Old to Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young to Die.” From the live LA show are “Black Sunday,” “Songs from the Wood,” “Heavy Horses” with Jobson’s violin solo, “Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day,” “Aqualung” and the closing “Locomotive Breath/ Instrumental/ Black Sunday (reprise).” Additional material in the book includes drummer Craney interviewed in 1989 by Doane Perry; an interview with Wilson on his mixing of the album and the live show; Mallet discussing the filming of “Slipstream” and his career in music videos; an interview with art director/ ”Slipstream” executive producer Wagg; a recording and touring chronology; and rare photos and memorabilia. The book, which also house the discs, is similar to the previous albums’ anniversary releases, slightly larger than the usual paperback, but with a hard cover. Grade: album B, live show A-, total package A+
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Post by adospencer on Jul 11, 2021 9:13:09 GMT
"...since many are still happy with the 1984 mix..." Now, that's unconditional love! But, just imagine how many thousands of fans listened to Under Wraps twice and just returned it to the record store, saying something like "It's scratched. Can I trade it in for Grace Under Pressure?" As for me, I stuck it out. I listened to Under Wraps over and over and over and over...and then, I dealt with it at the live show. There Ian was, hitting the keyboard with one hand and holding the flute with the other hand (Lap of Luxury, I believe it was). Well.....we survived the Under Wraps craze of the mid-80's. I’m looking forward to what Wilson will do with the next 2 albums. Needs to really tone down the drums on both. 81-82 has a bit too much reverb and volume in parts and 83-84 a bit too much high and low frequencies. These 2 albums will benefit more than the previous albums from a remix. Hopefully he can remix Crest and Rock as well. Drums need work on those too. The SW remixes have been a bit hit and miss I think. "A" is superb, as is "SFTW" , but his remixes of some albums (for me) haven't always worked well. His style of a wide stereo image sometimes leaves a "gap" in between , and he has a style of pushing tiny details to the front of the mix, which on first listen sounds great, (we hear a previously unheard cymbal or tambourine etc.), but it has to come at a cost which might be a key instrument pushed into the background giving an unbalanced feel. For example, I love the Bass guitar riff on "Brick" during the "Childhood Heroes" section. SW has pushed it behind other things and its somehow lost . Overall I think these remixes are interesting and fun, and at times brilliant but sometimes the original wasn't far away.
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Post by cecil on Jul 12, 2021 23:07:16 GMT
I’m looking forward to what Wilson will do with the next 2 albums. Needs to really tone down the drums on both. 81-82 has a bit too much reverb and volume in parts and 83-84 a bit too much high and low frequencies. These 2 albums will benefit more than the previous albums from a remix. Hopefully he can remix Crest and Rock as well. Drums need work on those too. The SW remixes have been a bit hit and miss I think. "A" is superb, as is "SFTW" , but his remixes of some albums (for me) haven't always worked well. His style of a wide stereo image sometimes leaves a "gap" in between , and he has a style of pushing tiny details to the front of the mix, which on first listen sounds great, (we hear a previously unheard cymbal or tambourine etc.), but it has to come at a cost which might be a key instrument pushed into the background giving an unbalanced feel. For example, I love the Bass guitar riff on "Brick" during the "Childhood Heroes" section. SW has pushed it behind other things and its somehow lost . Overall I think these remixes are interesting and fun, and at times brilliant but sometimes the original wasn't far away. I’m pretty happy with the remixes. I think taab is the only album that Wilson didn’t take full control over. Mew was fairly involved. I love pretty much all of the full Wilson mixes. Horses, Song, Aqua, Passion and A my faves. I thought he could have done a bit more with Stormwatch though. Too old would have been another fave if they found all the tapes. Hopefully they find the tapes after going through all the vaults and they find more bonus material as well. That would make a nice 50th. TAAB might get a full Wilson 50th as well
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 29, 2021 0:33:47 GMT
Peter Smith is celebrating success Happy 41st Anniversary to Jethro Tull 🎤🎸🎸🎻🎹🥁.🅰️ Released 29 August 1980 in the UK 🇬🇧 — celebrating success
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 31, 2021 0:36:51 GMT
Jethro Tull - A (Ian Anderson's isolated track) plus associated tracks
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Post by JTull 007 on Oct 18, 2021 0:41:58 GMT
Working John, Working Joe (Take 4) (Steven Wilson Remix) Image by Ian Ino Video by ademar fagundes
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Post by orion12 on Mar 4, 2022 18:24:32 GMT
The ''A'' remainds me of Pink Floyd album Meddle. Black Sunday is albumets Echoes. Crossfire & Fylingdale Flyer are albumets One Of These Days. The rest is a quite mediocre on the both albums.
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Post by woodsongs on Apr 7, 2022 13:28:11 GMT
I have always loved the 'back-cover' of the sleeve of the 'Working John,Working Joe'/'Flyingdale Flyer' 7" single. I thought it was very clever how they incorporated the 'A' symbol in to the double 'A' side wording on the sleeve.
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