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Mar 20, 2013 22:28:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 22:28:33 GMT
I can always count on Mad-dawg Thanks Graham
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Mar 21, 2013 2:10:30 GMT
Post by tullist on Mar 21, 2013 2:10:30 GMT
Very true. One of their great album closers, though there are several, a particular strength. But given the cold war tension at that moment, it was fairly chilling at first listen, not one of those that took awhile to register. Not one ever played on the A tour, likely a suitable position could not be found, or at least that position was taken by something more "classic". By 1980 already balancing their signifigant past history with whatever their current release was. 2 hour show, lots of stuff gets left out.
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Mar 21, 2013 3:38:59 GMT
Post by steelmonkey on Mar 21, 2013 3:38:59 GMT
1981 tour started AND ended with Black Sunday...and for that, I will be eternally grateful.
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Mar 21, 2013 3:47:58 GMT
Post by steelmonkey on Mar 21, 2013 3:47:58 GMT
Allright....not as bad as I remembered it (Stitch/Twitch) some good Stormwatchy moments and maybe one of the last things classic Tull recorded ?
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 21, 2013 8:54:19 GMT
1981 tour started AND ended with Black Sunday...and for that, I will be eternally grateful. Certainly one of the best from the pen of Ian Anderson and one of my top five favourite Jethro Tull songs. "A" took me a couple of weeks to get into but, once there, all was relatively good with the world.
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Mar 21, 2013 17:02:41 GMT
Post by steelmonkey on Mar 21, 2013 17:02:41 GMT
I still listen to Black Sunday between 3 and 5 times a week as it remains my pre-bike riding stretching routine soundtrack...never, ever, ever get tired of it and my bratty 8 year old has learned the words. The return of Black Sunday to the live set would be big, big news....hey Ryan...whattya think?
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Aug 18, 2013 15:58:34 GMT
Post by maddogfagin on Aug 18, 2013 15:58:34 GMT
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Aug 18, 2013 16:03:55 GMT
Post by maddogfagin on Aug 18, 2013 16:03:55 GMT
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Aug 19, 2013 8:27:30 GMT
Post by maddogfagin on Aug 19, 2013 8:27:30 GMT
Still reckon, and probably always will, that "Black Sunday" is one of IA's finest compositions.
"Crossfire" is also a belter but I've never liked "Uniforms".
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Oct 22, 2013 17:09:57 GMT
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Oct 23, 2013 16:00:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 16:00:37 GMT
The above opinions are fascinating. "A" was the first album that came out after I discovered the band (at a very tender age!). I wouldn't say it is either the best or worst Tull album - there are some standout tracks and some near misses, for certain. "4.W.D." never impressed me, nor "Batteries Not Included." But... "Black Sunday," "Protect and Survive," and "FLYINGDALE FLYER!" All great songs, in my view. I agree with steelmonkey, it would be wonderful to see the band perform "Black Sunday" now with Ryan on vocals! -- David
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Oct 23, 2013 16:24:18 GMT
Post by steelmonkey on Oct 23, 2013 16:24:18 GMT
Black Sunday could not come back one....day......too........soon.
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Oct 24, 2013 13:49:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 13:49:56 GMT
Black Sunday could not come back one....day......too........soon. Ha ha ha! I like that! I seem to recall a video from 1993, in Croydon, England, I think...when Ian was squeezing out the wall-to-wall vocals. The verse ended, Ian grabbed his neck, stuck out his tongue, and laughed. Needless to say, the song was dropped from the set before the U.S. leg of the tour. Oh well...
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Oct 24, 2013 16:53:40 GMT
Post by maddogfagin on Oct 24, 2013 16:53:40 GMT
Black Sunday could not come back one....day......too........soon. Ha ha ha! I like that! I seem to recall a video from 1993, in Croydon, England, I think...when Ian was squeezing out the wall-to-wall vocals. The verse ended, Ian grabbed his neck, stuck out his tongue, and laughed. Needless to say, the song was dropped from the set before the U.S. leg of the tour. Oh well... 1986 - Out In The Green - Black Sunday (sorry flutesttobranches but can't find the Croydon video; hope this'll do)
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 16, 2015 14:49:58 GMT
Uploaded on Dec 22, 2008 - Aqualung71 Shropshire pine marten sighting is the first in a century16 July 2015 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-33549202The first confirmed sighting of a wild pine marten in England for over a century has been recorded in a Shropshire woodland. An amateur photographer spotted the mammal, thought to be extinct, in early July, and passed photos to the Shropshire Wildlife Trust. There have been numerous reports in the county, but trust mammal expert Stuart Edmunds was able to verify the image. He said the animals may have been living in the area for years. "There is now a possibility that they may have been living here right under our noses for a long time," Mr Edmunds said. Scottish population Pine martens are nocturnal, house cat-sized members of the stoat and weasel family. There is a healthy population of at least 4,000 pine martens in Scotland, and small numbers live around Snowdonia, in Wales. The wildlife trust believes the Shropshire marten had moved across from Wales.
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 27, 2015 12:31:56 GMT
I'm embarrassed because I have assumed the song was spelled "Flyingdale Flyer" since 1980. Also being unfamiliar with this term and the way Ian sang it made it sound that way. Now I know... "Fylingdale Flyer" "Flyingdale Flyer" Wiki 2 Link RAF Fylingdales is a Royal Air Force station on Snod Hill in the North York Moors, England. Its motto is "Vigilamus" (translates to "We are watching").
It is a radar base and is also part of the Ballistic Missile Early Warning System (BMEWS). As part of intelligence-sharing arrangements between the United States and United Kingdom (see, for example, the UKUSA Agreement), data collected at RAF Fylingdales are shared between the two countries. Its primary purpose is to give the British and US governments warning of an impending ballistic missile attack (part of the so-called four minute warning during the Cold War). A secondary role is the detection and tracking of orbiting objects.
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 27, 2015 15:47:45 GMT
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Post by tullabye on Aug 27, 2015 16:45:27 GMT
Black Sunday could not come back one....day......too........soon. I don't know. There's so much raw energy in Batteries Not Included that at times I think it's a really great song.
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Post by onewhiteduck on Aug 27, 2015 18:56:06 GMT
The opening sequence on the 'A'tour at The Royal Albert Hall 1980 is one of my greatest Tull live memories.
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 28, 2015 2:42:48 GMT
The opening sequence on the 'A'tour at The Royal Albert Hall 1980 is one of my greatest Tull live memories. Amazing indeed. I wonder how you felt seeing the new line-up in comparison to the previous members?
That's what TULL has always been to me. One surprise again and again with Ian Anderson onstage. I saw the new album and wondered how different things had become. Eventually "Slipstream" answered those questions. The 'uniforms' were a little odd at first but the music was solid and KICKED ASS !!!
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Post by Equus on Aug 29, 2015 18:55:24 GMT
You are not alone... The same here... There is always something to learn when listening to the lyrics of Ian Anderson... Most music lyrics fall apart when closer examined... not so with the lyrics of Ian Anderson... Very impressive! For many years I thought that The Kinks, was called The Kings... Well, well... Nobody's right all of the time... If we look on the bright side of this statement, then luckily, there's always room for improvement... So maybe there's still hope for us all...
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 29, 2015 19:50:11 GMT
You are not alone... The same here... There is always something to learn when listening to the lyrics of Ian Anderson... Most music lyrics fall apart when closer examined... not so with the lyrics of Ian Anderson... Very impressive! For many years I thought that The Kinks, was called The Kings... Well, well... Nobody's right all of the time... If we look on the bright side of this statement, then luckily, there's always room for improvement... So maybe there's still hope for us all... When I saw the video posted on Facebook, my first reaction was it must be a 'typo-error'. I would have sworn it was "Flyingdale Flyer" just from all the years of hearing Ian sing it with some audio effects piped in by the studio process.
I was so glad to finally confirm the original meaning which has a 'Cold War' influence as well. There are lots of phrases which Ian uses that relate to things he has learned in the U.K. Not all albums are like "Thick As A Brick", but there are plenty of songs that make you think.
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Post by Equus on Aug 29, 2015 22:03:19 GMT
You are not alone... The same here... There is always something to learn when listening to the lyrics of Ian Anderson... Most music lyrics fall apart when closer examined... not so with the lyrics of Ian Anderson... Very impressive! For many years I thought that The Kinks, was called The Kings... Well, well... Nobody's right all of the time... If we look on the bright side of this statement, then luckily, there's always room for improvement... So maybe there's still hope for us all... When I saw the video posted on Facebook, my first reaction was it must be a 'typo-error'. I would have sworn it was "Flyingdale Flyer" just from all the years of hearing Ian sing it with some audio effects piped in by the studio process.
I was so glad to finally confirm the original meaning which has a 'Cold War' influence as well. There are lots of phrases which Ian uses that relate to things he has learned in the U.K. Not all albums are like "Thick As A Brick", but there are plenty of songs that make you think. ...Eh... (...One of my favorite words...) ...Eh... Do you mean that Thick As A Brick, isn't a profound piece of work... also when it comes to the lyrics? I know that Ian has said that it was written to be a spoof... but in my opinion, SAAB... Sorry about that, Jim... I used to mispronounce/misunderstand the word Thick, and thought that it was Sick... but even if Ian has said that he was putting people on big time... I don't think that he succeeded... When I heard Sick... Okay... Let me rephrase that... When I first heard Thick As A Brick, I felt, for the first time in my life that anyone had so accurately displayed the insanity of the world, in a way that made me feel understood on a level, never surpassed to this day... (...Eh...Heavy stuff... Maybe I shouldn't smoke this...?? )
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 29, 2015 23:47:56 GMT
...Eh... (...One of my favorite words...) ...Eh... Do you mean that Thick As A Brick, isn't a profound piece of work... also when it comes to the lyrics? I know that Ian has said that it was written to be a spoof... but in my opinion, SAAB... Sorry about that, Jim... I used to mispronounce/misunderstand the word Thick, and thought that it was Sick... but even if Ian has said that he was putting people on big time... I don't think that he succeeded... When I heard Sick... Okay... Let me rephrase that... When I first heard Thick As A Brick, I felt, for the first time in my life that anyone had so accurately displayed the insanity of the world, in a way that made me feel understood on a level, never surpassed to this day... (...Eh...Heavy stuff... Maybe I shouldn't smoke this...?? ) "Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think. Your sperm's in the gutter your love's in the sink."
I believe it's an album about growing up in a world full of expectations and responsibilities... In general we all learn something when Ian does his thing. Each album has a special style.
With "A" there are stories about terrorists, Royal Air Defense, economic stress, Sunday dread, Survival, batteries, uniforms, 4 wheel drives, Pine Martins, and life goes further on down the road.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 14:58:56 GMT
A Jethro Tull 3 stars Nice album! In the beginning of the 80's, Jethro Tull turned to a more commercial kind of prog, and that's because of the use of electronic instruments and it resulted in a more simple songs, but the progressive music of JT still remains unique! And there's one more reason to it and only on this album: the presence of the famous keyboardist/violonist Eddie Jobson as a special guest. After a "classic golden era" in the 70's , the music is a little bit soft and the voice of Ian remains gentle and pleasant. The rhythmic section is ok, but the use of electronic sounds made by synthesizers put the mark. Overall, a good prog album of a cult prog rock band. Songs to be mentioned: Flyingdale flyer" , "Working John, working Joe", Black Sunday", the instrumental "Pine martin' Jig" and the nice final song "Still further on..." 3 Stars!!!
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Post by cecil on Jan 4, 2016 22:54:31 GMT
Fylingdale, uniform, further on and pine marten are awesome. Uniform is one of tulls most underated tracks. Black Sunday has boring hard rock verses imo. As for Stitch in time. It's a classic
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 5, 2016 9:34:34 GMT
Fylingdale, uniform, further on and pine marten are awesome. Uniform is one of tulls most underated tracks. Black Sunday has boring hard rock verses imo. As for Stitch in time. It's a classic The lead track "Crossfire" is a Tull classic as is "Fylingdale Flyer". An under-rated album with a transitional Tull lineup but one that seems to improve with age. Chrysalis Records must have hoped that "A Stitch In Time" would chart for the band as a stand alone single but even with a fair bit of encouragement by the pluggers it didn't do anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 13:18:26 GMT
Happy Anniversary: Jethro Tull, A Monday, August 29, 2016 36 years ago today, Jethro Tull released their 13th album, but if things had gone in the manner in which they’d been originally planned, then the material contained therein would’ve instead seen release as Ian Anderson’s solo debut. Album titles don’t get much shorter than A, but the origin of the title is a surprisingly simple one: the “A” is for Anderson – as in Ian Anderson – and it’s how the tapes for the album had been marked, since…well, that’s whose album it was supposed to be. Indeed, the only reason the credit on the album changed was because Chrysalis Records, Jethro Tull’s label, asked Anderson if he’d mind attributing it to the band as a whole because the label’s overall sales were low. After all, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out how many more copies it was likely to sell if it was credited that way. As those who’ve heard it already know, A sounds way, way different from Jethro Tull’s typical material, but now you know the explanation as to why: it wasn’t supposed to be Tull material. As a result, though, it’s arguably also the point where the lines between the band and its lead singer began to blur in a big way, and although Anderson ultimately did go on to release his first solo album, Walk Into Light, a few years later, Jethro Tull’s sound continued to sound more modern and less folky as the years progressed. Thankfully, things began to shift back over the course of time, but listening back to the band’s catalog, there’s no question that A was – for better or worse –the most modern-sounding Jethro Tull ever got.
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Post by steelmonkey on Aug 30, 2016 16:15:52 GMT
I remember so well...the line up changes distress...the disappointed first two or three listens, the quickly growing on me Black Sunday and slower acceptance of the other songs. I was living in Germany, far from my usual Tull friends, sharing a small apartment with a guy who dropped out of Tull church after Minstrel and Really hated 'A' so I had to time my dialy listems around his challenging schedule and my 10 hour work days plus two hour commute ( He was on the dole and sometimes left the house for groceries...but mostly breakfasted from 10:00 AM till late afternoon and then drank wine and smoked hash till after midnight). Memories of a Tull life !
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Post by rockodyssey on Aug 31, 2016 19:50:23 GMT
Next stage on the odyssey: It didn’t look promising. Rubbish title and rubbish artwork. Also the background reading suggests that this is one of those ‘contractual obligation’ albums that rarely produce something worthwhile. There is a marked stylistic shift as Tull embrace the electronic revolution of the early eighties. Ask Neil Young fans if they think Transformer Man marked the zenith of his achievement. But against the odds this ranks as ‘fairly outstanding’ on the Rock Odyssey scale. What got me onside was ‘Black Sunday’. Let me take you on a journey through how my mind occasionally works, especially when listening to a song that I really enjoy. ‘Black Sunday’ is a fairly epic affair. You could definitely see it being used in a musical (and Anderson has produced one based on the life of the band’s eponymous agricultural inventor which might well feature it for all I know). But since it is essentially a Paso Doble, I find myself fantasising about the upcoming performance of ex hopeless shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, but actually seemingly decent bloke, Ed Balls on Strictly Come Dancing. I would stage it with Balls in city gent rig, bowler hat and umbrella and all, while his unfortunate partner is done up to suggest his broadsheet newspaper (in lieu of a cloak motif) whom Ed would manhandle around the dancefloor. Never mind the obligatory one minute thirty seconds performance either, I’d get Ed putting in the full six and a half minutes. The lyrical themes of disillusionment with the modern world would work well too. For the rest of it, there’s plenty more modern day angst to keep you going. ‘Protect And Survive’ reminds us that if you were a teenager at the time, you thought there was a decent chance you’d soon be nuked into oblivion. Some of the electronic music is a bit tinny and of its time but it’s a much better album than I had any right to expect.
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