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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 27, 2020 9:14:44 GMT
Could it be just money thing? Martin and Doane as being part of Tull maybe had a bigger share, while now all of them are session musicians. or publicity?
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 27, 2020 10:25:44 GMT
Well it wasn't that Ian didn't want to play Tull's music anymore was it? He just didn't want to play it with him (Martin), the question is why? I think there is more to this, I honestly think that Martin had questioned on Ian's vocals, and maybe he (Martin) thought he was indispensable........and Ian called his bluff. There has to be something major that happened, because Ian did not stop doing the Tull stuff...he just did it with other people, and is still doing it!!!!! and not an emoji in sight n/r........ I was referring to your emoji on the Shoutbox and not to anything else.
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 27, 2020 10:31:07 GMT
It's really hard to say about this Martin/ Ian position. On the one hand, Martin could be recycling the story of a major rift for exactly that - a story - padding other than "Tull's ex guitarist has a new band"
But there's also the stories over the years that Ian's been difficult at times, especially with ex musicians. Personally, I know of a friend who on booking Tull didn't have a very good experience however that could have been an off day for Ian. Who knows? We won't.
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Post by bunkerfan on Oct 27, 2020 10:44:46 GMT
I think there is more to this, I honestly think that Martin had questioned on Ian's vocals, and maybe he (Martin) thought he was indispensable........and Ian called his bluff. There has to be something major that happened, because Ian did not stop doing the Tull stuff...he just did it with other people, and is still doing it!!!!! and not an emoji in sight n/r........ I was referring to your emoji on the Shoutbox and not to anything else.
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Post by acreman on Oct 27, 2020 11:06:33 GMT
Ian has been fairly upfront about his desire to put his name out there a little more as his career winds down, to draw attention to the fact that he was the main songwriter behind the 200+ tunes that make up the Tull library, to clarify that his name is not "Jethro Tull" as so many "casual fans" have mistakenly believed over the years. It might seem a little frivolous at this point, since everyone who is still interested in the world of Tull is well aware of Ian's name and his main-man status in the band. But the guy is 73 years old and has been making great music for decades, and if striking out on his own for a little while as he nears the end of his musical road lends to his feeling of personal accomplishment, more power to him.
Of course, the only problem was the rather unceremonious split with Martin, but it seems apparent in interviews that Ian rationalized it to himself with the thought that it allowed Martin to undertake solo endeavors he had long been interested in pursuing.
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 27, 2020 11:09:48 GMT
Ian has been fairly upfront about his desire to put his name out there a little more as his career winds down, to draw attention to the fact that he was the main songwriter behind the 200+ tunes that make up the Tull library, to clarify that his name is not "Jethro Tull" as so many "casual fans" have mistakenly believed over the years. It might seem a little frivolous at this point, since everyone who is still interested in the world of Tull is well aware of Ian's name and his main-man status in the band. But the guy is 73 years old and has been making great music for decades, and if striking out on his own for a little while as he nears the end of his musical road lends to his feeling of personal accomplishment, more power to him. Of course, the only problem was the rather unceremonious split with Martin, but it seems apparent in interviews that Ian rationalized it to himself with the thought that it allowed Martin to undertake solo endeavors he had long been interested in pursuing. I agree. Martin's also playing the songs that Ian wrote. I'd love to know how that agreement works. Does Ian get a cut each time Martin plays them?
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 27, 2020 14:59:05 GMT
Ian has been fairly upfront about his desire to put his name out there a little more as his career winds down, to draw attention to the fact that he was the main songwriter behind the 200+ tunes that make up the Tull library, to clarify that his name is not "Jethro Tull" as so many "casual fans" have mistakenly believed over the years. It might seem a little frivolous at this point, since everyone who is still interested in the world of Tull is well aware of Ian's name and his main-man status in the band. But the guy is 73 years old and has been making great music for decades, and if striking out on his own for a little while as he nears the end of his musical road lends to his feeling of personal accomplishment, more power to him. Of course, the only problem was the rather unceremonious split with Martin, but it seems apparent in interviews that Ian rationalized it to himself with the thought that it allowed Martin to undertake solo endeavors he had long been interested in pursuing. I agree. Martin's also playing the songs that Ian wrote. I'd love to know how that agreement works. Does Ian get a cut each time Martin plays them? I believe he does although I don't know the exact percentage per song which probably varies from country to country.
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Post by orion12 on Oct 27, 2020 15:16:36 GMT
Did Ian ever made a guest appearance at 'Martin Barre Band' live shows?
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 27, 2020 15:58:50 GMT
Ian has been fairly upfront about his desire to put his name out there a little more as his career winds down, to draw attention to the fact that he was the main songwriter behind the 200+ tunes that make up the Tull library, to clarify that his name is not "Jethro Tull" as so many "casual fans" have mistakenly believed over the years. It might seem a little frivolous at this point, since everyone who is still interested in the world of Tull is well aware of Ian's name and his main-man status in the band. But the guy is 73 years old and has been making great music for decades, and if striking out on his own for a little while as he nears the end of his musical road lends to his feeling of personal accomplishment, more power to him. Of course, the only problem was the rather unceremonious split with Martin, but it seems apparent in interviews that Ian rationalized it to himself with the thought that it allowed Martin to undertake solo endeavors he had long been interested in pursuing. From The Guardian on-line paper back in 2014:Ian Anderson says Jethro Tull is overWith the release of the solo album Homo Erraticus, Jethro Tull frontman calls prog-rock band's catalogue 'historical' Sean Michaels Tue 15 Apr 2014 09.00 BSTLast modified on Wed 31 May 2017 18.02 BST Ian Anderson has called an end to Jethro Tull, announcing that from here on out he will record and tour exclusively under his own name. After half a century and almost two dozen albums, Anderson said he is ready for Jethro Tull to live on as "the vast body of [its] repertoire".
"Nothing is going on at all [with Jethro Tull]," Anderson told Billboard, "and that's the point". Though the band had only previously been described as on hiatus, their 66-year-old founder suggests that "it kind of came more or less to an end during the last 10 years or so", following a series of live records and a 2003 Christmas album.
"It's a body of work I rather think is now kind of historical, since the weight of it lies back in the 70s and 80s in terms of volume," Anderson said. "And I rather think it's nice to kind of leave that as legacy."
Writing in the liner notes for his new solo album, Homo Erraticus, Anderson explained that "in my twilight years … I think I prefer ... to use my own name". Ironically, the album is co-credited to songwriter Gerald Bostock, a pseudonymous character whom Anderson introduced on Jethro Tull's 1972 LP Thick as a Brick. Anderson also maintains a blog, Twitter and Facebook account for Bostock.
Anderson has long resented the Jethro Tull moniker, he told Billboard. "If you'd asked me 20 years ago did I regret anything about my musical career, my answer then, as it is today, has always been the name of the band," he said. The group was apparently named by their booking agent; Anderson didn't learn until later that Jethro Tull was also the name of a noted English agriculturist.
"I can't help but feel more and more as I get older that I'm guilty of identity theft and I ought to go to prison for it, really. It's almost as if I watched old Jethro Tull at the cash machine and leaned over his shoulder as he put his credit card into the machine to check out his PIN and filched his credit card form from his back pocket as he walked away and then fleeced his bank account."
Though Anderson hasn't played with the original members of Jethro Tull in many years, his current touring band consists of long-time members of the group. They are due to begin a UK tour at the end of this month.
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Post by rredmond on Oct 27, 2020 16:23:36 GMT
We do go back and forth on this subject, don't we. But listen Ian's voice isn't what it was (avoids the death gaze of the senior members) but to me they are both "Jethro Tull". While I'm a big Martin fan (I may have said that before), you can't deny the genius that is Ian Anderson and I'm glad they are both out there playing the songs I love. I think the only uncool thing about this all is the fact that Martin (and Doane apparently) were surprised. Ian could have done things differently, and should have given them more respect than "okay, it's done." Which, it seems by most accounts, is how it happened.
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Post by orion12 on Oct 27, 2020 17:48:20 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 27, 2020 18:49:21 GMT
We do go back and forth on this subject, don't we. But listen Ian's voice isn't what it was (avoids the death gaze of the senior members) but to me they are both "Jethro Tull". While I'm a big Martin fan (I may have said that before), you can't deny the genius that is Ian Anderson and I'm glad they are both out there playing the songs I love. I think the only uncool thing about this all is the fact that Martin (and Doane apparently) were surprised. Ian could have done things differently, and should have given them more respect than "okay, it's done." Which, it seems by most accounts, is how it happened. I'm with you RR with the first part of the second line. Ian should still be on stage doing his thing and at home writing his stuff however he should also (further) rethink outsourcing more of the vocals. and we're off............
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Post by orion12 on Oct 27, 2020 19:22:45 GMT
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Post by jackinthegreen on Oct 28, 2020 1:23:33 GMT
So who has the sour grapes? Martin I presume?
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 28, 2020 9:22:57 GMT
Did Ian ever made a guest appearance at 'Martin Barre Band' live shows? No, I don't think so.
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Post by JTull 007 on Oct 28, 2020 10:41:15 GMT
So who has the sour grapes? Martin I presume? Of course... Basically when you are in a band which relies on many musicians since 1968. Ian became the focus of every show as well as control of who was onstage.
I love Martin Barre as much as anyone could but I sense his regret at times. Perhaps it's only natural to feel 'Let go' but his career still exists today. The real "Sour Grapes' are those who deny it.
I LOVE MARTIN LANCELOT BARRE...and want to see him again and again !!! Let's forget about the past and make the most of TODAY
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Post by stevep on Oct 28, 2020 11:03:45 GMT
I don't think Ian and Martin have been on stage together at all since the the "break-up". The break-up of the band would probably have caused some hurt feelings whatever way IA had done it. It would be difficult to say that the band will break up in a year but will tour until then.
Ian Anderson is the only person that really know the reason why he made this decision. My guess is that it was probably a combination of things. He possibly wanted the opportunity to work with others with different musical abilities and who were readily available to make albums, etc. It seems that he was more productive making new albums since then (TAAB2, Homo Erraticus, String Quartets) with more varied tours (TAAB1/2, Homo Erriaticus, Jethro Tull opera, Prog Rock tour, Christmas concerts, etc.).
I was disappointed when the band with Martin (& Doane) finished but Martin and Ian had been working together for well over forty years and were in their sixties. They both seem to be happy where they are now and my view is we are lucky to have two bands playing very decent Tull music. It would be nice to see them on stage together again though - if the guys in Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac can do it surely they can too.
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Post by orion12 on Oct 28, 2020 11:40:52 GMT
Did Ian ever made a guest appearance at 'Martin Barre Band' live shows? No, I don't think so. I'm asking just becouse of, for example, Waters and Gilmour(Pink Floyd) can't stand each other for more than 25 years. But, in spite of that they occasionally visiting each other live shows and made a guest appearances. Admittedly, most often on just a one song - Comfortably Numb.
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Post by acreman on Oct 28, 2020 11:45:46 GMT
It would be nice to see them on stage together again though - if the guys in Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac can do it surely they can too. I'm thinking the same thing. There doesn't seem to be a Gillan/Blackmore level of disdain coming from either side. If various estranged members of Yes can get together for a couple of songs, an Ian/Martin reunion seems feasible.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 5, 2020 9:05:44 GMT
www.themaineedge.com/buzz/music/a-conversation-with-martin-barreA conversation with Martin BarreNovember 4, 2020 Guitar legend Martin Barre is set to mark the 50th anniversary of his decision to join the lineup of Jethro Tull with a double disc set showcasing two sides of the music he helped create as a member of that iconic progressive rock band. On November 6, Barre will release “MLB: 50 years of Jethro Tull,” featuring Martin and his band performing live in-studio acoustic and electric performances of Jethro Tull classics and deep cuts, along with four bonus tracks recorded live last year. Barre joined Jethro Tull in 1969 as the group prepared to record their second album, “Stand Up,” a top 20 LP in the US and a chart topper for the group in their native United Kingdom. Cited for his fluent, melodic lead guitar style, Barre’s chops graced 20 Tull studio albums and were always a guaranteed highlight during the band’s powerful and theatrical live shows. Barre formed his own band when Jethro Tull ceased touring in 2012. He saw most of his 2020 tour schedule quickly evaporate due to Covid-19, and says he’s practically bursting at the seams to get back onstage with his band. The group’s next series of shows, tentatively set to begin in March 2021, will be a celebration of Jethro Tull’s biggest seller. Barre and his band will perform the 1971 album “Aqualung” in its entirety, along with a set of Jethro Tull classics and fan favorites. The Maine Edge: How did you decide which songs to include on your “50 Years of Jethro Tull” double disc set? Martin Barre: It’s an easy choice because it’s such a huge repertoire to pick from. It’s a mixture of my favorite songs through that history, songs that are very focused on the guitar parts, and tracks that we’ve played onstage that go over very well live. Everything that I do centers around going onstage and playing live shows. It’s impossible to do a fair representation of 50 years, but hopefully there’s something there for everybody. The Maine Edge: You had to cancel a lot of concerts this year but I see that you have dates booked for next spring, fingers crossed. Where were you when the pandemic brought everything to a halt? Martin Barre: We’d just been to Australia and we were in South America when it all happened, and quickly headed back to the UK. It breaks my heart to even postpone gigs, I don’t cancel anything. There’s a huge backlog of shows we missed this year and I want to do all of them. I’m ready to go as soon as people give me the green light, and my heart is in that next gig that we’ll do as soon as we can. The Maine Edge: You’re always working on something. Was it challenging for you to suddenly find yourself with nothing to do this year? Martin Barre: (laughs) No, and I’m only laughing only because I have my grandkids around me as I’m talking to you, and they make sure I never have a minute when I’m bored. I’ve written a huge amount of music this year and I’ve been working on this presentation of the “50 years” CD, and there’s a DVD (“Live at the Wildey”) coming out at Christmas that has been a lot of work to put together. That’s where the four bonus tracks on this collection come from. I play every day, I practice and I’m taking my music exams. That’s pretty crazy, right? The Maine Edge: Did I hear you correctly? Martin Barre is taking music exams? Martin Barre: Yeah, I bought an alto flute and I’m going back to my music exams and picking up where I left off 50 years ago (laughs) just for something to do to keep my brain occupied. I just need to play music. The Maine Edge: When I was a kid, taking guitar lessons from one of my teachers at school, he tried to teach me how to play barre chords. I asked him why they were called barre chords and he said you invented them! (Martin laughs). It was years before I got the joke. You’re a self-taught guitarist, you’ve never took formal lessons, is that right? Martin Barre: No, they weren’t available. I think I had one or maybe two guitar lessons early on but the guy I saw for lessons certainly never had a sense of humor and that’s so important with music. Nothing should be taken that seriously. There’s so much information available today for people who want to learn music and the people teaching it make it fun. The Maine Edge: I’ve seen you play live a number of times and you’ve always managed to play something I’ve never heard you do before. Martin Barre: Chances are they were mistakes (laughs). The Maine Edge: (laughs) After all this time, do you still discover things on guitar that you didn’t know were there? Martin Barre: Oh sure, music is infinite. It’s a bottomless pit of information of which I’ve only managed to scrape the surface, and that’s why playing the guitar is still so exciting for me. You would think its simplicity would be very restricting but I’ve never found a restriction and I play every day. I have fun and I enjoy doing it, and occasionally, I’ll think ‘Oh, I’ve never played that before.’ Since I was 14 years old, that’s how I’ve approached the guitar, always looking for new things I didn’t know were there. The Maine Edge: You said you have your grandkids with you today. You must be one of the coolest granddads ever. Do they ever ask you to play a song for them? Martin Barre: Not yet, they’re ages 6 and 4. I’ve just shown them a YouTube video that I put up called ‘Palladio.’ (Martin is joined by drummer Darby Todd on a track from Welsh composer and multi-instrumentalist Karl Jenkins. Thanks to digital video editing, we see multiple Martin Barres, each performing a different guitar part). The kids are watching it and they’re saying ‘Oh no, there’s four granddads, now there’s five granddads! (laughs)’ It was hilarious but I don’t think they really understand what’s going on. When they’re older, they’ll either be really embarrassed, because a lot of my music is from the ‘60s and ‘70s, or they’ll think I’m super-cool, I’m not sure which. The Maine Edge: We lost a guitar great when Eddie Van Halen passed away. Did you know Eddie or had you met him in your travels, Martin? Martin Barre: I was such a huge admirer of his playing. Jethro Tull was checking into a hotel somewhere when the whole Van Halen band came in and I saw them headed towards the elevator and thought ‘Oh, it’s Eddie Van Halen! I’d like to talk to him but I don’t know what I would say,’ so I just bottled out of introducing myself. I hated doing that and I still do. It makes me uncomfortable to walk up to someone I admire and introduce myself. So Eddie went into the elevator and he was gone. I remember thinking ‘I should have just done it, I should have said ‘Hi, I’m Martin Barre, I play for Jethro Tull, I love you’ but I never did. Eddie was such a great player and he did so much for music. The Maine Edge: I noticed you have some autographed items available on your website, including the new ’MLB Celebrates 50 years of Jethro Tull’ set. Martin Barre: Yes, and for Christmas, I’m thinking of putting some crazy items on there for the person who has everything (laughs) if they’re looking for something a bit weird. The Maine Edge: What do you mean, like one of Martin Barre’s kidneys? Martin Barre: Ha! That would be a one-off! (laughing). I’d want a lot of money for that, good idea, though. I’ll give it some consideration. I have an attic of memorabilia, and I’m going up there soon to find some crazy things from the past that people might enjoy. The Maine Edge: What can you tell me about the new DVD “Live at the Wildey” coming out at around Christmas time? Martin Barre: The Wildey is a gorgeous early 1900s theatre in Edwardsville, near St. Louis, but actually in Illinois. We played two nights there in May 2019, and this is one of the nights. Former Jethro Tull members Clive Bunker and Dee Palmer were with me, along with the two girls from my band. It’s sort of similar in design to the CD but with a bigger band, and it’s got almost every song in the book in there.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 15, 2020 11:15:33 GMT
www.ultimate-guitar.com/Classic Jethro Tull Guitarist Answers if He'd Change Anything About His Tenure, Talks RegretsMartin Barre also recalls some of the crazier gigs from back in the day. During an appearance on Pat's Soundbytes Unplugged, classic Jethro Tull guitarist - who was a member of the fold between 1968 and 2012, making him the band's longest-standing member after leader Ian Anderson - looked back on his time in the group, standout shows, and more. Martin is promoting a new record titled "50 Years of Jethro Tull," you can check it out here via Amazon. A part of the conversation is available below (transcribed by UG). 50 years at Tull! When you look back, what goes through your mind when you first actually got the call to join the band probably in 1968 or 1969? "I've got a lot of good memories, and over all the years I've made a lot of friends - some of them are still best friends - a lot of memories, a lot of great concerts, a lot of great fans, traveling around the world... "It's just something so special, and I'm always very respectful and thankful that I was able to do it. And some things are clear as if they were yesterday, other things got sort of scrambled in the huge amount of work we did. "We're doing so many concerts sometimes it all gets confused. but a lot of it, especially the early days are really crystal clear because it had such an impact on me. And I'm a lucky guy to have been through all of that and to still be playing and enjoying it." Knowing what you know now, Martin - if you had to change anything and doing it all over again, would you have done anything differently? "No, I think the answer has got to be no. Because I can play better, I could sound better, I could have refined something, but it's all a snapshot. "It's like looking at a black-and-white movie, and you see the quality of the films grainy and the acting - some of it is really bad, but it's iconic! "It could be Humphrey Bogart, but somebody with it might be a really bad actor. But that's how it was in the '50s or the '60s, and we've progressed – the acting's better, the quality of the film is better, but it's good, you have to have that benchmark that changes and develops and improves. "So, no, it has to be that way. It's important, it's history. And it was raw; it was basic, we were all learning how to play music, it had to be better, and you can see that, that progress through all the years. "If you sanitized it or sort of recolored it like they do films, I don't see the point because it needs to have its place in history and stay there." Of all the shows, was there any one that sticks out, the craziest thing that's happened here, somebody would jump off the stage, or your guitar, your amp, you blew a string, all of a sudden you're playing and you're not playing...? "All the time for everything! Well, I mean, the early days were crazy because fans were pretty fun. But lots of stories - and sometimes a crazy story would happen at a horrible gig, or at some of the best gigs nothing happened because it all went right. "So it's quite hard to sort of pinpoint any one thing. But just playing every big special no matter where you are, no matter how many people are there. I can't explain why it is, but if you start playing gigs and they aren't all special, then you don't need to be doing it because I just love playing. "I don't care how many people I'm playing to - it's all 100% commitment. And the band have so much fun playing that if you played to two people you'd still have a great time. "And I've done a gig in England but there was a huge storm, almost like a hurricane, and it was near the coast, and there were only 30 people that could get there. "You couldn't get to the show, but we got there and the 30 people, and we're in this hall in his theater, and there's a howling gale going on around us... Best show ever! "And they knew that it was different, and we were all lucky that we're inside of this theater, sheltered from this horrific weather. And we had an amazing night, and that for me says it all. "You haven't got to play In front of 5,000-10,000 people to make it special. Every night has something about it that is good... "We did a show in Italy where the weather was horrific! It was outdoors, it was pouring with rain, and the promoter said, 'Look, not many people are going to turn up, I think we should cancel.' "I'd think, 'Don't cancel it - because the people that do turn up really deserve a show!' You've got to give them the show, it doesn't matter! And we did it, and it's the same thing - it was brilliant! "And the people knew that you hadn't turned your back on them. It'd be easy to say, 'Cancel, weather...' But if you don't, it makes it a really special occasion, people really appreciate that nothing will put you off. It's a dedication to what you do."
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Post by rredmond on Nov 15, 2020 13:20:22 GMT
The man loves playing and loves and respects his fans. True legend! Great interview! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 19, 2020 16:29:47 GMT
www.ultimate-guitar.com/Jethro Tull Guitarist Talks How He Feels About Beating Metallica for Metal Grammy & 'Pissed' Fan Reactions, Speaks on Ian Anderson's Health & 'Deteriorated' VoiceMartin Barre also talks Joe Bonamassa, joining the band in '68, and more. Posted 4 hours ago During an appearance on Rock Talk With Mitch Lafon, classic Jethro Tull guitarist Martin Barre - who was a member of the fold between 1968 and 2012, making him the band's longest-standing member after leader Ian Anderson - talked about the band's infamous '89 Best Hard rock/Metal Performance Grammy win over Metallica, while also touching on how he joined the fold, Joe Bonamassa, and more. Martin is promoting a new record titled "50 Years of Jethro Tull," you can check it out here via Amazon. When asked, "Being brought into Tull, was it intimidating or did it feel good?", Barre replied (transcribed by UG): "Well, both. Because Tull in '68 was the sort of emerging band in the English rock scene, and everybody - they were just different. "And particularly from a guitar-playing point of view, [original Tull guitarist] Mick Abrahams was one of the best players around. And when he left, everybody wanted his job, including me. "I met Ian [Anderson, frontman] because of my flute playing. I was playing blues flute at the same time, and I knew about him, and he knew about me. "We were the only two guys doing it in the UK. We played the Van Dyke club, funnily enough in Plymouth. That's where we met, and then sort of three months later, Mick quit the band I sort of actually got the gig." Ian comes out this year and says that he's got an incurable lung disease. Do you just look at that and go, 'OK, we've had our fights, let's get back on the phone'? "Well, did you get the rest of the story? You've got half the story; he announced he had this terrible disease, and then a few days later, he retracted it because he hasn't got a terrible disease. "He's just got a problem with his throat and singing, which I think we've known for a long time, and god bless him, he's a great flute player. "Very sadly, what was a great voice has now sort of deteriorated, as it happens to a lot of people, especially at that age. "So no, I think Ian just made a big mistake. I don't know why he said he was dying, but before I had a chance to get on the phone and say, 'Let's do one more concert.' He'd retracted it and embarrassingly said, 'No, I'm okay, I'll be around for a bit.'" What does it mean to you when not just a fan, but somebody like Joe Bonamassa says, 'This guy Martin is one of the best' - how does that affect you? "It doesn't affect me musically because I'll never have such a high opinion of myself, which is why every day I get in the studio and practice. "But I know Joe from when he was Tull's support band, and every night on this long US tour I got up on stage with him and played 'A New Day Yesterday,' so we became friends and I knew then he was a great player and just was going to get better and better. "I'm really happy for him, he's worked really hard at what he does; he is a true gigging touring musician, he works his balls off. "And you can hear it in his music, he's really found a place in guitar music, he's reached the pinnacle, he's made it his and that's not easy to do. "He's such a great rhythm player and if you analyze his playing, it's so precise. No matter how many notes he plays, they're just exactly in the right place. "[Deep Purple's] Ritchie Blackmore is another great time-keeper, but it's where your right hand, it's the drums, you're sort of self-contained entity where the rhythms are built-in. "And like all the great blues players - Stevie Ray [Vaughan], Albert King, Freddie King, B.B. King - it was all the feel of where to put these notes in the bar and it's not easy. "That might be a pentatonic blues solo, but it is so precise and you can't learn it, you can't be taught. It's a combination of all that and having the feel and understanding of this music and someone like Joe's really worked hard at getting inside it." I want to ask you one thing coming from the Metallica fan perspective; we all know about this 'Crest of a Knave' thing - Metallica doesn't win the best heavy metal album [but Jethro Tull does in 1989]. Has the controversy overshadowed the fact that you had a great album? How do you look back on this? "Well, it wasn't a controversy in my household. [Laughs] Let's put it that way. And I'm looking at my Grammy right now, it's up on the top shelf in my studio. "It's there so that people who come here to work for me look at it and it pisses them off. And I'm like, 'Yes, that's a Grammy. It's mine, and I earned it.' I don't say it, but I think it... "I was at home, it's midnight, about to go to bed, and I get a phone call saying, 'You've won the Grammy.' And I go, 'Oh...?' "But we come across as being rude because we weren't there to receive it, and that's the bad thing, that's the only negative thing about it - that I would have loved the occasion and if I ever get a chance of doing something like that again, I don't know..." Whether or not Metallica deserved it, that's a whole other debate, but fans have talked about it as if Jethro Tull didn't deserve it and the album wasn't good enough. It's like, 'No, the album has its merits, it's a good album.' So talk about whether Metallica deserves to win, but don't say Jethro Tull's not good... "Yeah, Tull always turned their back on that sort of thing, but you know what? I'm very happy that I got it. "Everybody likes a pat on the back. They might shrug it off or just pretend that it's not cool, but we're all human, and we all like to be told we've done a good job. "But there's a little present, and even deep down, you're smiling." link
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Post by bunkerfan on Nov 19, 2020 19:40:00 GMT
www.ultimate-guitar.com/Jethro Tull Guitarist Talks How He Feels About Beating Metallica for Metal Grammy & 'Pissed' Fan Reactions, Speaks on Ian Anderson's Health & 'Deteriorated' VoiceMartin Barre also talks Joe Bonamassa, joining the band in '68, and more. Posted 4 hours ago During an appearance on Rock Talk With Mitch Lafon, classic Jethro Tull guitarist Martin Barre - who was a member of the fold between 1968 and 2012, making him the band's longest-standing member after leader Ian Anderson - talked about the band's infamous '89 Best Hard rock/Metal Performance Grammy win over Metallica, while also touching on how he joined the fold, Joe Bonamassa, and more. Martin is promoting a new record titled "50 Years of Jethro Tull," you can check it out here via Amazon. When asked, "Being brought into Tull, was it intimidating or did it feel good?", Barre replied (transcribed by UG): "Well, both. Because Tull in '68 was the sort of emerging band in the English rock scene, and everybody - they were just different. "And particularly from a guitar-playing point of view, [original Tull guitarist] Mick Abrahams was one of the best players around. And when he left, everybody wanted his job, including me. "I met Ian [Anderson, frontman] because of my flute playing. I was playing blues flute at the same time, and I knew about him, and he knew about me. "We were the only two guys doing it in the UK. We played the Van Dyke club, funnily enough in Plymouth. That's where we met, and then sort of three months later, Mick quit the band I sort of actually got the gig." Ian comes out this year and says that he's got an incurable lung disease. Do you just look at that and go, 'OK, we've had our fights, let's get back on the phone'? "Well, did you get the rest of the story? You've got half the story; he announced he had this terrible disease, and then a few days later, he retracted it because he hasn't got a terrible disease. "He's just got a problem with his throat and singing, which I think we've known for a long time, and god bless him, he's a great flute player. "Very sadly, what was a great voice has now sort of deteriorated, as it happens to a lot of people, especially at that age. "So no, I think Ian just made a big mistake. I don't know why he said he was dying, but before I had a chance to get on the phone and say, 'Let's do one more concert.' He'd retracted it and embarrassingly said, 'No, I'm okay, I'll be around for a bit.'" What does it mean to you when not just a fan, but somebody like Joe Bonamassa says, 'This guy Martin is one of the best' - how does that affect you? "It doesn't affect me musically because I'll never have such a high opinion of myself, which is why every day I get in the studio and practice. "But I know Joe from when he was Tull's support band, and every night on this long US tour I got up on stage with him and played 'A New Day Yesterday,' so we became friends and I knew then he was a great player and just was going to get better and better. "I'm really happy for him, he's worked really hard at what he does; he is a true gigging touring musician, he works his balls off. "And you can hear it in his music, he's really found a place in guitar music, he's reached the pinnacle, he's made it his and that's not easy to do. "He's such a great rhythm player and if you analyze his playing, it's so precise. No matter how many notes he plays, they're just exactly in the right place. "[Deep Purple's] Ritchie Blackmore is another great time-keeper, but it's where your right hand, it's the drums, you're sort of self-contained entity where the rhythms are built-in. "And like all the great blues players - Stevie Ray [Vaughan], Albert King, Freddie King, B.B. King - it was all the feel of where to put these notes in the bar and it's not easy. "That might be a pentatonic blues solo, but it is so precise and you can't learn it, you can't be taught. It's a combination of all that and having the feel and understanding of this music and someone like Joe's really worked hard at getting inside it." I want to ask you one thing coming from the Metallica fan perspective; we all know about this 'Crest of a Knave' thing - Metallica doesn't win the best heavy metal album [but Jethro Tull does in 1989]. Has the controversy overshadowed the fact that you had a great album? How do you look back on this? "Well, it wasn't a controversy in my household. [Laughs] Let's put it that way. And I'm looking at my Grammy right now, it's up on the top shelf in my studio. "It's there so that people who come here to work for me look at it and it pisses them off. And I'm like, 'Yes, that's a Grammy. It's mine, and I earned it.' I don't say it, but I think it... "I was at home, it's midnight, about to go to bed, and I get a phone call saying, 'You've won the Grammy.' And I go, 'Oh...?' "But we come across as being rude because we weren't there to receive it, and that's the bad thing, that's the only negative thing about it - that I would have loved the occasion and if I ever get a chance of doing something like that again, I don't know..." Whether or not Metallica deserved it, that's a whole other debate, but fans have talked about it as if Jethro Tull didn't deserve it and the album wasn't good enough. It's like, 'No, the album has its merits, it's a good album.' So talk about whether Metallica deserves to win, but don't say Jethro Tull's not good... "Yeah, Tull always turned their back on that sort of thing, but you know what? I'm very happy that I got it. "Everybody likes a pat on the back. They might shrug it off or just pretend that it's not cool, but we're all human, and we all like to be told we've done a good job. "But there's a little present, and even deep down, you're smiling." link Very honest and interesting thoughts from Martin and who could disagree with him.
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Post by rredmond on Nov 25, 2020 15:44:03 GMT
Very honest and interesting thoughts from Martin and who could disagree with him. As I read it, I was thinking the exact same thing. Glad this was shared!
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 1, 2020 10:16:00 GMT
www.cleveland.com/Guitarist Martin Barre celebrates 50 years of Jethro TullUpdated Nov 30, 2020; Posted Nov 30, 2020 By Gary Graff, special to cleveland.com CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Jethro Tull is primarily known as frontman Ian Anderson’s domain, but Martin Barre can certainly lay claim to a share of the group’s legacy. As Tull’s guitarist from 1969-2012, Barre’s work on both electric and acoustic (ironically he started out playing flute, like Anderson) have been part of the band’s sonic signature -- including his epic solo on the title track to “Aqualung.” Younger players such as Eric Johnson, Joe Bonamassa, Steve Vai and Joe Satriani have all cited him as an influence, and he’s also made guest appearances on albums by Ten Years After’s Chick Churchill, John Wetton, his Tull predecessor Mick Abrahams and Dee Palmer (who was David Palmer during her time with Tull). Barre, who’s been releasing solo albums since 1994, is celebrating the group with his latest album, “50 Years of Jethro Tull.” The two-disc set features he and his band, including Palmer and vocalist Becca Langsford, taking on electric and acoustic sides of the Tull repertoire, with a few twists that make clear that while he’s celebrating it, Barre is not completely living in the past... What made you want to celebrate your 50th anniversary of joining Jethro Tull with an album? Barre: The real 50th anniversary (of the band) was actually 2018, and there was no album, no reunion, no special concert, no special release from the record label, which I thought was a bit odd. [Anderson did tour with his latest version of the band.] That spurred me on to do something for the next year, which would make it more personal because it was MY 50th anniversary, from 1969. Then I started thinking about touring and getting some of the old guys from Tull, and it just snowballed from that. I was rolling down the hill with no brake. The gigs were great, really fun. Does it feel like it’s been 50 years? Barre: It doesn’t feel like a long time, ‘cause I’m not tired. I have so many vivid memories, and some of the really vivid ones are from the beginning -- I wouldn’t say it’s like yesterday, but still very clear in my mind. In a way I didn’t have time to stop and think and breathe and take stock of what was going on. It was a whirlwind for many, many, many years. I never had time to sort of sit in a chair and think about what’s happened and what I’ve done -- until now. Ending Jethro Tull was not your choice, was it? Barre: That’s right. Ian got me and then Terry (Ellis, of Chrysalis Records) in a room on the last American tour (in 2011) and said, “I’m finishing with Jethro Tull,” and we just looked at him and thought, “Oh really? That’s interesting. I just thought, “I’m going to get off my butt. I’m going to rise to the challenge. I’m not finished with music by a long, long way,” and I was very determined to start again, and start better. I realized how my guitar playing had become sort of stifled within Jethro Tull. So (breaking up) needed doing. But the way it was done was very, very wrong. Given that memory, what’s your relationship like to the music you made with the band? Barre: I’m very proud and very positive of what I’ve done. That’s my heritage. That’s a lot of me -- my playing, my ideas, my writing and arranging over all those years. I’m very respectful of it. those are great albums and great songs and great tours, and I won’t ever turn my back on it. But, also I’m not going to live off nostalgia. I’m always looking forward to what I want to do next. Speaking nostalgically, though, do you have a favorite lineup of Tull? Barre: I could be smartass and say my band. (laughs) No, it’s unfair to pick just one out. But musically, I think when Dave Pegg and Pete (John Vettese) and Doane Perry were there (1984-86) we were the best band, musically. But the personalities and the characters within the band were so important -- Jeffrey Hammond and John Evans, Dee Palmer, Barry Barlow. That was the “traditional” lineup, and one of the nicest ones. Weren’t you all kind of maniacs back in the 70s? Barre: We were all...eccentric, (laughs) but only onstage. We didn’t sort of carry it back to day-to-day life. We worked really hard and we had fun -- a really good time. It was a crazy band that eventually burned out. Tull was a very theatrical band, especially during the 70s and early 80s. What kind of mishaps did you have on stage? Barre: The mishaps were the best bits. They were hilarious! There were fantastic things. Once we dressed up in animal suits, and John Evans used to read the news in a rabbit suit. It was a long show, probably three, four hours, and (Evans) used to pee onstage. During the blackout, while he was putting on the rabbit suit, he knocked a can of pee into the head of the rabbit suit without knowing and then put the head on and you heard this awful howl when he realized he had done. Another time one of the roadies had to come on in a space suit and didn’t want to use the breathing tube because the guy who regularly did it had the flu. So, the helmet steamed up and instead of walking around the gear he walked through it. There were Marshalls (amplifiers) and Les Pauls (guitars) scattered left and right. That was mayhem. There’s a lot of things like that. One day I’ll write a book. You’ve worked with Dee Palmer recently -- who was, of course, David Palmer during her time with Jethro Tull. Was the gender transition surprising? Barre: If you knew Dave, he really was a beer-drinking, pipe-smoking, life and soul of the party, dirty jokes...a real Alpha male. For a few years I didn’t see him, then when I met her, she’s lovely and the same person -- just slightly changed (laughs). Still a lot of fun. But like most people in that situation, she was always a woman. It took a lot of adjustment, it really did. But she’s been on the road with us and is a lot of fun to have around, a fantastic personality. Ian has done some Jethro Tull-style tours during the past decade or so. Did it bother you to not be included? Barre: Well, it did at first. But, you know, people have experienced both sides. They’ve experienced the Ian Tull and the Martin Tull...both sides of the coin. I don’t think it’s a competition. I don’t want any issues at all. We’re covering different ground; Mine’s much more of a rock band. It’s a different show. I just want to be my own person. What have you been doing with your enforced time off? Barre: Obviously we only did shows up ‘til the beginning of March, end of February. But I’m busy. I’m playing a lot. I’ve written a lot of music to do a solo album next year. I even bought myself a nice, new alto flute and I’m going back through all my flute exams, just to keep my brain sharp. I really miss playing, but I think it’s going to be 2022 before we’re fully back out there. We can only hope it can be sooner. link
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Post by JTull 007 on Dec 2, 2020 1:23:53 GMT
Martin Barre - Live at The Wildey DVD (out now!) Got Your Copy Yet? Martin Barre Band: Live at The Wildey DVD Martin's new DVD features his '50 Years of Jethro Tull' show, with special guests Clive Bunker & Dee Palmer! His 2-hour two-disc DVD is only available at www.martinbarre.com/shop/ (price includes shipping worldwide) Order now for Christmas delivery!
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Post by rredmond on Dec 2, 2020 13:55:29 GMT
"Knocking pee into a rabbit's head" would be a great Status under my avatar! But this ↓↓↓↓↓ looks AWESOME! Need to start saving my money now!!! Assuming there's gonna be a digital version... Martin Barre - Live at The Wildey DVD (out now!)
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Post by JTull 007 on Dec 7, 2020 1:28:36 GMT
Classic Rock Album Reviews MARTIN BARRE GUITAR LEGEND PART 1
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Post by steelmonkey on Dec 7, 2020 3:37:58 GMT
I really think there is more than meets the eye and whatever balances Ian and Martin's post-Tull relations and mutual statements might include their deepest, darkest secrets...like Tull was more Milli Vanilli than anyone wants to admit and that a lot of Jeffery Hammond's contributions in the studio were actually done by Ian and Martin. It wouldn't matter at all, at this late date, but it seems that there are dynamics and secrets from peak Tull era that freeze a lot of things in place...perhaps forever.
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