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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 13, 2011 7:07:39 GMT
Martin has updated his site and sent out a message to the bewildered that doesn't say too much 12th September 2011 I have received many emails about the upcoming Thick as a Brick tour and album. I will not be involved with these projects; they are Ian Anderson solo works and, as such, I won't be playing. For any disappointed fans, you will have to wait 'till next year, when i will debut my new band. I have most the musicians lined up and i promise you a great show; I am very excited and extremely enthusiastic!! In the meantime i have an excellent company working on revamping my website and setting up Facebook/Twitter and YouTube pages... it will be finished soon and then i will tell you my plans for the future! Thank you for your patience and understanding. Martin Barre www.martinbarre.com/home.htm
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 13, 2011 7:41:16 GMT
Martin has updated his site and sent out a message to the bewildered that doesn't say too much 12th September 2011 I have received many emails about the upcoming Thick as a Brick tour and album. I will not be involved with these projects; they are Ian Anderson solo works and, as such, I won't be playing. For any disappointed fans, you will have to wait 'till next year, when i will debut my new band. I have most the musicians lined up and i promise you a great show; I am very excited and extremely enthusiastic!! In the meantime i have an excellent company working on revamping my website and setting up Facebook/Twitter and YouTube pages... it will be finished soon and then i will tell you my plans for the future! Thank you for your patience and understanding. Martin Barre www.martinbarre.com/home.htm Martin's statement basically confirms what I was told by TullCentral. There has not been a "parting of the ways" at this point in time and no fallout between him and Ian. Both want to do their own thing next year and then . . . who knows? Rumour and conjecture over who might be in Martin's band should play no part in all this until definite details are released via both the official site and Martin's re-vamped site. Anyone who saw Tull at High Voltage, and Sealion's praise for the band when he saw them play at this festival, confirms that they are still a working band and all being well will continue for the forseeable future. With Martin going on the road with his own band must bode well for some interesting times ahead.
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 13, 2011 7:45:15 GMT
and fair play to them all... thanks also to their inclination and stamina
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Post by bunkerfan on Sept 13, 2011 9:26:34 GMT
Comment just posted by mikeyjdee on our ' Martin Barre guitar Solo 1982' on youtube just about sums up my thoughts on the man. "This guy is one of the greatest guitarists EVER!!!!"
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 13, 2011 14:33:21 GMT
Comment just posted by mikeyjdee on our ' Martin Barre guitar Solo 1982' on youtube just about sums up my thoughts on the man. "This guy is one of the greatest guitarists EVER!!!!"
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Post by hawkmoth on Sept 14, 2011 7:36:44 GMT
Martin Barre,Andy Giddings,John Noyce,Doane Perry, Paul Rodgers hmm if only. That WOULD BE INTERESTING.
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Post by nobodyspecial on Sept 16, 2011 4:18:34 GMT
"I have received many emails about the upcoming Thick as a Brick tour and album. I will not be involved with these projects; they are Ian Anderson solo works and, as such, I won't be playing." .......... So it would appear that recent IA comments hinting/stating towards new music appear to be his projects and not new JT material. Oh well, maybe something along a new JT album will come - with MB and DP, but the way it looks now, I'll be surprised. But I will look forward to any chance for new MB tunes/tour and happily support his effort(s). Read more: jethrotull.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solo&action=display&thread=1650#ixzz1Y5LQ4CAk
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Post by hipflaskandy on Sept 16, 2011 10:34:06 GMT
I'll deffo go see Mart's new band - love his playing. He's a real guitar hero of mine - bring it on, Mart!
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 16, 2011 17:15:06 GMT
"I have received many emails about the upcoming Thick as a Brick tour and album. I will not be involved with these projects; they are Ian Anderson solo works and, as such, I won't be playing." .......... So it would appear that recent IA comments hinting/stating towards new music appear to be his projects and not new JT material. Oh well, maybe something along a new JT album will come - with MB and DP, but the way it looks now, I'll be surprised. But I will look forward to any chance for new MB tunes/tour and happily support his effort(s). Read more: jethrotull.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solo&action=display&thread=1650#ixzz1Y5LQ4CABut this whole episode reminds me of the furore when Mick Abrahams' left the band back in '68. Letters were written in the music press, there were loud mutterings from the faithful but all was resolved in no time with Mick forming the Blods and IA in complete control of the monster that is Jethro Tull. So the best of both worlds. However we look at it, "the dirty deed" has been done and way out of our control. IA will still get plenty of bums on seats, as will Martin - the quality of the music is the key and how well each is publicised and presented to the general paying public.
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Post by hipflaskandy on Sept 20, 2011 8:36:29 GMT
But this whole episode reminds me of the furore when Mick Abrahams' left the band back in '68. Letters were written in the music press, there were loud mutterings from the faithful but all was resolved in no time with Mick forming the Blods and IA in complete control of the monster that is Jethro Tull. Hardly the same scenario, is it? 'Mutterings from the faithful' (in whatever numbers they were then) regarding a chap left out of a band he had only been in for one year - with his own (albeit excellent) stamp on an extremely limited amount of material.... IMHO hardly equates to the omission of a forty-plus years player that has his unique style and signature totally and organically embedded into every phase of the vast canon of material that eveolved- and the 'faithful' has grown from the original smaller numbers into far greater, massive amounts of devotees worldwide in all that time. Surely 'you cannot be serious' (to quote Mr McEnroe) with your comparison Maddy? MB is (so very much) such a significant part of the JT 'sound' from all those years output, that to replace him, have anyone else reproduce his 'parts' (no matter how ace the replacement) seems to make the band more of a tribute band to itself, I must fear. Course, I'm a guitar player myself - so his importance may be a more exaggerated part of the equation from my standpoint?
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 20, 2011 8:55:25 GMT
But this whole episode reminds me of the furore when Mick Abrahams' left the band back in '68. Letters were written in the music press, there were loud mutterings from the faithful but all was resolved in no time with Mick forming the Blods and IA in complete control of the monster that is Jethro Tull. Hardly the same scenario, is it? 'Mutterings from the faithful' (in whatever numbers they were then) regarding a chap left out of a band he had only been in for one year - with his own (albeit excellent) stamp on an extremely limited amount of material.... IMHO hardly equates to the omission of a forty-plus years player that has his unique style and signature totally and organically embedded into every phase of the vast canon of material that eveolved- and the 'faithful' has grown from the original smaller numbers into far greater, massive amounts of devotees worldwide in all that time. Surely 'you cannot be serious' (to quote Mr McEnroe) with your comparison Maddy? MB is (so very much) such a significant part of the JT 'sound' from all those years output, that to replace him, have anyone else reproduce his 'parts' (no matter how ace the replacement) seems to make the band more of a tribute band to itself, I must fear. Course, I'm a guitar player myself - so his importance may be a more exaggerated part of the equation from my standpoint? I take your point hipflaskandy. MB is irreplaceable for sure, but Mick's contribution in the first year of Tull's life set the agenda for what followed with the band and MB imo. There were quite a few folks in '68 who thought that Mick was the heart of Jethro Tull, particularly with the blues connection, especially as many thought that "This Was" was the way forward with the band, John Peel being one of the many who spoke out at the time. It is an interesting scenario to wonder what would have happened if Tony Iommi had stayed with the band or failing that, if Davy O'List or any of the other guitarists at the audition had got the gig instead of Martin.
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Post by knobbythegreek on Sept 20, 2011 8:58:44 GMT
Dear Hipflaskandy
I have to agree with all of your words. Florian is a splendid player but on Tull works he is mimicking Martin and that could be done by any competent guitar player but only done with real soul by martin himself, the man who made the notes sing the way he does.
We are recovering from very bad storms last night and I have moved to neighbouring island to greet my friends from the board who arrive today at their hotel I hope. I hope they bring lots of CD's and DVD's from their collection for me. I look forward to having my own copy of the minstrel concert and the too old to rock and roll TV show, and of course the interview.
Lefteris
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 20, 2011 9:38:22 GMT
Dear Hipflaskandy I have to agree with all of your words. Florian is a splendid player but on Tull works he is mimicking Martin and that could be done by any competent guitar player but only done with real soul by martin himself, the man who made the notes sing the way he does. We are recovering from very bad storms last night and I have moved to neighbouring island to greet my friends from the board who arrive today at their hotel I hope. I hope they bring lots of CD's and DVD's from their collection for me. I look forward to having my own copy of the minstrel concert and the too old to rock and roll TV show, and of course the interview. Lefteris Hi Lefteris Hope all is well now that the storm has passed. I stayed for a while about thirty years ago on a beautiful Island way south from you - Lesvos there were hardly any tourists then and the old towns were amazing. Hope your friends bring many Tull things and they're very welcome to join in with us!
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Post by nobodyspecial on Sept 20, 2011 21:07:05 GMT
I've just come back from driving about and I had one of my JT compilation disks I've made up. Lately I've been 'bumping' through the selection for MB stand-out pieces, it's almost painful (still) that he won't be playing the TAAB tour. Todays' selections were Beastie, AWOL, Driving Song, that I played repeatedly, listening to the absolute excellence of MBs' playing and JT in general. It just doesn't make sense that the TAAB tour would move along this way. I know, I should get use to the idea - but JT since '72, numerous backstage ventures, this may never sit easily. Certainly IA has to be aware that any new JT work has to be with MB or not at all? I truly hope MB gets stateside with a tour.
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Post by hawkmoth on Sept 22, 2011 11:49:03 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 22, 2011 15:57:42 GMT
Great playing from guitar hero #1. Having met him just a couple of times at the UK Conventions when he and his band performed on the bill, I can attest that not only is he a "dedicated" guitar player, and by that I mean he pays the upmost attention to rehersals/warm ups to get things absolutely right etc., but that he's a really genuine and honest guy.
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Post by hipflaskandy on Sept 25, 2011 11:08:25 GMT
Cheers for the clip - most enjoyable!
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Post by hawkmoth on Sept 25, 2011 15:41:12 GMT
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Post by oksauce on Sept 25, 2011 19:03:24 GMT
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Post by stevep on Oct 3, 2011 18:54:38 GMT
Martin Barre (on tour?) in concert in late October this year. www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=254207791283771I noted in Martin's web page that he said he will not be involved in the TAAB tour and album. Anyone know what new album he is referring to?
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Post by futureshock on Oct 4, 2011 6:34:12 GMT
Regarding new music, I've wondered for quite some time how Tull could persist with several influences working against them; 1) the back catalogue producing a gigantic force to repeat, repeat, repeat and hence new works as "Tull" would suffer under dust and demands to sound like something from yesteryear, 2) the marketplace is a quagmire for sales. How do you make money other than live concerts? Other formats? Where to go, and part of the answer is to have a good handle on a level of sales you can predict. But sales of what? CDs? MP3s?, and 3) hello, is there new material to deal with anyway?
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 4, 2011 7:29:05 GMT
Regarding new music, I've wondered for quite some time how Tull could persist with several influences working against them; 1) the back catalogue producing a gigantic force to repeat, repeat, repeat and hence new works as "Tull" would suffer under dust and demands to sound like something from yesteryear, 2) the marketplace is a quagmire for sales. How do you make money other than live concerts? Other formats? Where to go, and part of the answer is to have a good handle on a level of sales you can predict. But sales of what? CDs? MP3s?, and 3) hello, is there new material to deal with anyway? and on a lesser point - I still think they should market themselves differently - take Kate Bush for eg apart from the fact she disappeared off the radar for ages and thereby increasing the "Will she won't she" perform/record again anticipation - when she did return with new material it was presented in an imaginative and vibrant way with a contemporary web page with eg purchases of images etc * www.katebush.com/galleryThe Tull image needs an update including vintage Tull in a more imaginative way and the band should take a break for a year or so and then return with a new album! and she has a link to the Forum and the long running KB publication on the main page www.katebushnews.com/index.php/the-forum/
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 4, 2011 8:40:56 GMT
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Post by hawkmoth on Oct 6, 2011 22:01:29 GMT
This sounds exiting . UK dates please?
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 7, 2011 7:53:01 GMT
This sounds exiting . UK dates please? Tend to agree with you. Any further dates will no doubt be posted here but in the mean time keep checking Martin's and Pat O'May' s sites and maybe even the JT official site may mention any UK concerts by them.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 10, 2011 7:48:19 GMT
Initial Martin Barre & Pat O'May concert details in France are now posted on the official site at www.j-tull.com/tourdates/index.html#martinOCT 28 Concarneau Centre des Arts 33 (0)298 503 643 29 Ploemeur L'Oceanis BD Francois Mitterand 30 Saint Brieuc La Citrouille Place Nina Simone +33 (0) 296 015 140 31 Bouvron Horizinc Rue de Bel air 33 (0) 296 457 702
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Post by snaffler on Oct 11, 2011 10:32:44 GMT
can't say i'm going to get too excited about the MB and Pat O'May collaboration. have just watched the excalibur clip on you tube and it looks like a combination of the rick wakeman excesses of the 70s and riverdance, theres also a flavour of spinal tap in there. For me it sounds like too much guitar soloing. still i may be wrong and hopefully this isnt the core of ther MB band!!!!!
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Post by hawkmoth on Oct 11, 2011 12:29:38 GMT
Well you got a choice for 2012 . 70's excess with whole of TAAB watered down somewhat without MB or , Martins Instrumentals and maybe bit of prog rock Excalibur,know what i'll go for. One thing you can say for sure is MB gets BETTER every year,his current level of guitar playing is his best EVER and hes an absolute joy to listen to.. I really hope there is some UK dates in 2012.
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 11, 2011 18:01:27 GMT
can't say i'm going to get too excited about the MB and Pat O'May collaboration. have just watched the excalibur clip on you tube and it looks like a combination of the rick wakeman excesses of the 70s and riverdance, theres also a flavour of spinal tap in there. For me it sounds like too much guitar soloing. still i may be wrong and hopefully this isnt the core of ther MB band!!!!! I'm a bit like that myself about it. I'm now imagining Martin in a Merlin outfit with long silver cloak
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Post by futureshock on Oct 12, 2011 0:10:10 GMT
.......[/quote] and on a lesser point - I still think they should market themselves differently - take Kate Bush for eg apart from the fact she disappeared off the radar for ages and thereby increasing the "Will she won't she" perform/record again anticipation - when she did return with new material it was presented in an imaginative and vibrant way with a contemporary web page with eg purchases of images etc * www.katebush.com/galleryThe Tull image needs an update including vintage Tull in a more imaginative way and the band should take a break for a year or so and then return with a new album! and she has a link to the Forum and the long running KB publication on the main page www.katebushnews.com/index.php/the-forum/[/quote] You're on to something. Let's call bands businesses. They all tend to follow the business model of 1) record, 2) tour to support that recording, 3) record next unit, 4) tour, 5) repeat cycle endlessly. Lots of opportunities to market Tull in new ways, well beyond just adding some social media channels, such as how the music is designed in the first place; collaborating with other purposes and activities. Look at the range of music created over the years, how it can merge with so many different purposes. Tull is like one long documentary on its own, might as well explore the options possible and generate something new.
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