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Post by stevep on Aug 29, 2011 17:31:55 GMT
He really won't mind if we sit this one out...
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 29, 2011 17:51:20 GMT
He really won't mind if we sit this one out... and we're on a roll...........
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Post by futureshock on Aug 29, 2011 20:26:52 GMT
I wouldn't expect anything but top quality effort out of Martin, and if this industrial and pessimistic resale of a band from 40 years ago is the Tull phase to follow the last 20 years of exclusively "Best Of" tours, and there's nothing new anywhere, why would a talented artist put up with that?
Martin! Save yourself! Get in another band! Fast!
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Post by ulla on Aug 30, 2011 9:09:24 GMT
I wish Martin would update his bloody website with any news of what he is up to. Lets face it if he wont feature on TAAB 2012 tour, what is he doing with himself these? Retirement? Oh no, don´t worry! Wait, he will come up with some interesting projects.
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Post by stevep on Aug 30, 2011 12:42:43 GMT
I guess 40 years playing Bouree gets to you in the end I am not sure that IA's voice is up to working through TAAB on a longish tour. Maybe he will get some guest singers to help out. Hopefully he will get some "well kent" (known) faces to assist him. I have been disappointed on his other tours when special guests have been promised - they are us usually someone relatively unheard of, though to be fair many have been very talented. I kind of get the feeling this is the end of the road for Tull as we know (and love) it. I think we are a bit quick to blame IA for this. It may just be that Barre and Perry are fed-up with constant touring to more remote venues.
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 30, 2011 18:01:23 GMT
I guess 40 years playing Bouree gets to you in the end I am not sure that IA's voice is up to working through TAAB on a longish tour. Maybe he will get some guest singers to help out. Hopefully he will get some "well kent" (known) faces to assist him. I have been disappointed on his other tours when special guests have been promised - they are us usually someone relatively unheard of, though to be fair many have been very talented. I kind of get the feeling this is the end of the road for Tull as we know (and love) it. I think we are a bit quick to blame IA for this. It may just be that Barre and Perry are fed-up with constant touring to more remote venues. If Martin releases more quality music similar to "Stage Left", I for one will be more than happy, nay ecstatic.
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Post by hawkmoth on Aug 30, 2011 21:49:49 GMT
Is the end of Tull then Its quite dissapointing news in the end Was really hoping for a new album at long last
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 31, 2011 6:38:52 GMT
I suppose that depends on what you mean by Tull. If it's because Martin isn't doing the TAAB tour then no I don't think it is the end - they're not joined at the hip despite all the history between them and we don't know what the reasons are for Martin not doing it - it could be anything - other music, medical who knows? I would assume that they would also know the outcome of the announcement to the hard core fans that he wouldn't be appearing so maybe an explanation from Martin wouldn't go amiss? The only people who will ever be able to give a definative answer to the end of Tull will be Tull Inc and I don't want to hear an official announcement,countdown or other stating that. I think if Martin does any solo performances next year or has new material he is working on then that should be considered in the same light as Ian doing TAAB 2012 without him - a seperate show that you would want to see or not but still under the Tull umbrella . As said before you either want to see Ian perform TAAB after 40 years at the age of 64/65 years with the possible special appearances of some of the original band members, excluding Barre, and with a bit more of a theatrical performance than say an Ian solo show. I loved the 40th when they had the backdrop of the albums and pics - you can't ignore the nostalgia element of a bands and fans 42 year history. It's realistic to expect things to change and I know it's definately been said before but we're feckin lucky to have the choice of Anderson/ Barre either together or not.
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Post by oksauce on Aug 31, 2011 10:28:05 GMT
Ian has played tull material on his own before, it's not like this is billed as jethro tull anyway, it's ian anderson plays jethro tull. The surprise was disappointing though, I was really hoping (foolishly and naively perhaps) for a new album at last. Though it's probably the webmaster's fault really, I doubt ian had much of a part in it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 12:38:42 GMT
Uh-oh true or false? We know...f www.licklibrary.com/news/2011/8/2024-jethro_tull_plot_39thick_as_a_brick39_world_tourBlues rockers, Jethro Tull will be celebrating the 40th anniversary of their 'Thick as a Brick' album bext year & to mark the occasion the seminal British rockers are plotting a world tour, reports Gibson.com Due to kick off in the UK next April the current line-up of Ian Anderson, Martin Barre, Doane Perry, David Goodier & John O'Hara will then head to Europe before finishing up in the US.It will be the first time Anderson has performed the album in its entirety since 1972 and next year's tour, according to the bands website, will feature: "a more theatrical production with video, additional musicians and a troupe of dancing elephants. (Just kidding about the dancing elephants: they don't dance....)" The album was first released in 1972 and became a number one Billboard album enjoying huge commercial success around the world.
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Post by hawkmoth on Aug 31, 2011 16:46:00 GMT
I suppose that depends on what you mean by Tull. If it's because Martin isn't doing the TAAB tour then no I don't think it is the end - they're not joined at the hip despite all the history between them and we don't know what the reasons are for Martin not doing it - it could be anything - other music, medical who knows? I would assume that they would also know the outcome of the announcement to the hard core fans that he wouldn't be appearing so maybe an explanation from Martin wouldn't go amiss? The only people who will ever be able to give a definative answer to the end of Tull will be Tull Inc and I don't want to hear an official announcement,countdown or other stating that. I think if Martin does any solo performances next year or has new material he is working on then that should be considered in the same light as Ian doing TAAB 2012 without him - a seperate show that you would want to see or not but still under the Tull umbrella . As said before you either want to see Ian perform TAAB after 40 years at the age of 64/65 years with the possible special appearances of some of the original band members, excluding Barre, and with a bit more of a theatrical performance than say an Ian solo show. I loved the 40th when they had the backdrop of the albums and pics - you can't ignore the nostalgia element of a bands and fans 42 year history. It's realistic to expect things to change and I know it's definately been said before but we're feckin lucky to have the choice of Anderson/ Barre either together or not. hey NonRabbit wise words/fair dues I think really whats miffed me a bit is the countdown on The JETHRO TULL WEBSITE . I was expecting some exciting JETHRO TULL news. Yes Martin should make a statement to clear this situation. As much as i like what Ian does especially solo stuff,this wasnt the news i was hoping for. Im going to one of Ians solo shows this sept which i expect to be quite different from a Tull gig,i hope he plays a selection of stuff from SLOB and RD. Will i go to a TAAB show probably yes,but i would love to see Martin as a part of it. Quite right we should be thankful the guys still perform,but please Ian one last TULL ALBUM. Dot Com was a long time ago and my others are worn out now ha!.
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 31, 2011 17:52:18 GMT
I think really whats miffed me a bit is the countdown on The JETHRO TULL WEBSITE . I was expecting some exciting JETHRO TULL news. Yes Martin should make a statement to clear this situation. As much as i like what Ian does especially solo stuff,this wasnt the news i was hoping for. In retrospect the countdown clock was a spectacular failure and the webmaster should hang his head in shame. I agree that some sort of statement should be made by IA, Doane and Martin so that remaining confusion as to who is performing on the TAAB concerts is cleared up. The "new" album should have been the "spectacular" news and kept well and truly under wraps. Quite possibly the constant touring means IA doesn't have his finger on the pulse over at Calliandra Productions and "the final countdown" wasn't his idea.
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 31, 2011 19:18:00 GMT
I suppose that depends on what you mean by Tull. If it's because Martin isn't doing the TAAB tour then no I don't think it is the end - they're not joined at the hip despite all the history between them and we don't know what the reasons are for Martin not doing it - it could be anything - other music, medical who knows? I would assume that they would also know the outcome of the announcement to the hard core fans that he wouldn't be appearing so maybe an explanation from Martin wouldn't go amiss? The only people who will ever be able to give a definative answer to the end of Tull will be Tull Inc and I don't want to hear an official announcement,countdown or other stating that. I think if Martin does any solo performances next year or has new material he is working on then that should be considered in the same light as Ian doing TAAB 2012 without him - a seperate show that you would want to see or not but still under the Tull umbrella . As said before you either want to see Ian perform TAAB after 40 years at the age of 64/65 years with the possible special appearances of some of the original band members, excluding Barre, and with a bit more of a theatrical performance than say an Ian solo show. I loved the 40th when they had the backdrop of the albums and pics - you can't ignore the nostalgia element of a bands and fans 42 year history. It's realistic to expect things to change and I know it's definately been said before but we're feckin lucky to have the choice of Anderson/ Barre either together or not. hey NonRabbit wise words/fair dues I think really whats miffed me a bit is the countdown on The JETHRO TULL WEBSITE . I was expecting some exciting JETHRO TULL news. Yes Martin should make a statement to clear this situation. As much as i like what Ian does especially solo stuff,this wasnt the news i was hoping for. Im going to one of Ians solo shows this sept which i expect to be quite different from a Tull gig,i hope he plays a selection of stuff from SLOB and RD. Will i go to a TAAB show probably yes,but i would love to see Martin as a part of it. Quite right we should be thankful the guys still perform,but please Ian one last TULL ALBUM. Dot Com was a long time ago and my others are worn out now ha!. totally agree Hawkmouth the countdown was a joke and not a funny one.
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 31, 2011 19:24:15 GMT
Do you think there's too much pressure on Tull to produce a new album? What if it was herald as "the new Tull album" and then became a spectacular flop and that went down as Tull's final album? What if he hasn't got it in him anymore? What if he hasn't the slightest inclination to produce one?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 19:44:01 GMT
Where were his spectacles? Could someone have stolen them? Had he mislaid them? What was he to do? Bee wanted to help, and thinking he had the answer began: "You probably ate them thinking they were a carrot.'' "No!'' interrupted Owl, who was wise. "I have good eye-sight, insight, and foresight. How could an intelligent hare make such a silly mistake?'' And after all, Hare did have a spare a-pair. A-pair.
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 31, 2011 21:16:07 GMT
Where were his spectacles? Could someone have stolen them? Had he mislaid them? What was he to do? Bee wanted to help, and thinking he had the answer began: "You probably ate them thinking they were a carrot.'' "No!'' interrupted Owl, who was wise. "I have good eye-sight, insight, and foresight. How could an intelligent hare make such a silly mistake?'' And after all, Hare did have a spare a-pair. A-pair. ;D non rabbit asked the one previously known as the tootull man Were you surprised by the wise old flute player who lost his guitarist ?
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 1, 2011 7:44:49 GMT
Where were his spectacles? Could someone have stolen them? Had he mislaid them? What was he to do? Bee wanted to help, and thinking he had the answer began: "You probably ate them thinking they were a carrot.'' "No!'' interrupted Owl, who was wise. "I have good eye-sight, insight, and foresight. How could an intelligent hare make such a silly mistake?'' And after all, Hare did have a spare a-pair. A-pair. Wicked windows indeed TT JohnH
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 4, 2011 22:38:22 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 5, 2011 9:07:20 GMT
Lots of tickets on sale now just twitter Jethro Tull and they'll all come up
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 5, 2011 9:09:47 GMT
18th April........ Liverpool Philharmonica Hall www.liverpoolphil.com/7722/events-contemporary-music/ian-anderson.html.....In 2012, Ian Anderson commemorates the 40th anniversary of his Jethro Tull album Thick As A Brick with this very special concert tour. The first half of the show will consist of the original Thick As A Brick album in its entirety, while the second half is a set of his new work with plenty of Jethro Tull hits thrown in for good measure......"
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Post by electrocutas on Sept 5, 2011 18:14:44 GMT
Kicking off April 2012, Ian Anderson is hitting the road for a series of shows commemorating the 40th anniversary of his Jethro Tull album, Thick As A Brick!
Bringing fans the No 1 Billboard Chart-topping Thick As A Brick album from 1972 in its entirety, Ian Anderson and his band are promising special guests and one amazing show, with some of the Jethro Tull hits thrown in for good measure.
The tour commences on 14th April 2012 in Perth and travels the lengths of the country taking in 18 other beautiful cities before rounding things up in Southampton on the 6th May. The band will comprise of: Ian Anderson – Vocals, flute & guitar John O'Hara – Keyboards and accordion David Goodier – Bass guitar Florian Opahle – Guitar Scott Hammond – Drums and percussion
Dates April
14 Concert Hall, Perth 15 Theatre Royal, Glasgow 17 City Hall Newcastle 18 Philharmonic, Liverpool 19 City Hall, Sheffield 20 St George's Hall, Blackburn 21 Royal Hall, Harrogate 22 Opera House, Manchester 24 Assembly Rooms, Derby 25 Regent Theatre, Ipswich 27 Hammersmith Apollo, London 28 Colston Hall, Bristol 29 The Swan Theatre, High Wycombe 30 Symphony Hall, Birmingham
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2 Apollo, Oxford 3 Hexagon, Reading 4 G Live, Guildford 5 St David's Hall, Cardiff 6 Guildhall, Southampton
Ok.. I have been a stalwart Tull fan from 1969
As far as I an concerned Jethro Tull No longer exists everything we are witnessing now is The Ian Anderson Band. I am going to one show this month and have reluctantly booked for one of the Brick shows on the off chance that Ian gets his brain back and brings martin in on the shows and the possibility of some guests.
Other than that all the remasters - re issues etc are just a plain rip off to get more of our money The only money I shall be forking out is on Something NEW... AND I WANT TULL not More Ian Anderson Band... Although I like most of Ian's solo stuff, I WANT A NEW TULL ALBUM.. not 74 different versions of Aqualung
Sorry But it is Time I.A. got his head out of the ground and looked round at what folks want. I dont say this lightly but.... 40 years might just have been a great time to.... Wind Up !!!
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 5, 2011 19:30:48 GMT
The great and respected Electocutas weighs in....ouch....well, The cup is half full for this Tull fan and I continue to look forward to multiple witnessesings (not a word) of TAAB live in 2012. Ian Anderson is going to `update, rearrange , rehearse and perform Thick as a Brick next year....and the boos begin ? I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THESE CONCERTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by futureshock on Sept 5, 2011 19:51:53 GMT
Do you think there's too much pressure on Tull to produce a new album? What if it was herald as "the new Tull album" and then became a spectacular flop and that went down as Tull's final album? What if he hasn't got it in him anymore? What if he hasn't the slightest inclination to produce one? My guess is that Ian and Tull could produce only quality work, and that if any barrier to a new CD/collection exists, in the top 3 reasons would be the cost of production vs the almost vapourized CD sales market. So, the question for any new artist/product who won't be guaranteed of instantly selling 3 million albums, is how to enter the market? Q: presuming another Tull album was reasonably high quality, HOW does Tull get it to market when the CD stores wouldn't generally take any unless it was a smash hit, and even then, they'd probably only take 3 copies once. Is Tull ready to rely on MP3 downloads?
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 5, 2011 21:39:39 GMT
Costs might be a part of the reason for no new album but I really don't think it's a big part - we don't have a clue whats going on with the dynamics of Tull - Anderson or Barre.
I honestly don't think that whether you've been a fan for 40 years or 40 days that it makes much difference to what Anderson really takes into account . He does what he wants to do and plays what he wants to play (apart from A and Loco) first and foremost and if the long standing fan or the new one wants to listen then thats fine. I bet he thoroughly enjoyed working with Steven Wilson and watching and listening to his masterpiece sound better than he ever thought it could as he has said recently he wasn't that happy with the original production. Lets wait and see how the remastered A sells?
I just wish that they were a bit more up front with the fans and filled in some of the gaps now and then.
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Post by tullist on Sept 6, 2011 1:30:03 GMT
If anybody gives a great wobbling bejeezus, Ian's trio show from last night in Gloucester is up there on Dime Torrents. I for one am dead pleased to see he opened with Boris Dancing. Beyond that it appears to be an identical setlist to the preceeding Ian tour, but, in a trio format, is bound to be quite some little bit different. Old stuck in his ways Ian Anderson. Ever so predictable. And if you think I mean that in a derisive way you don't know me very well. And according to the guy posting, who had a front row seat, it came out really good in terms of sound, though he nor any of the responders have made any reference to the actual performance.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 6, 2011 1:59:30 GMT
You mean I still have a chance to see Ian don old guy reading specs and recite 'hare' over near original musical accompaniement? Cool!
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 6, 2011 6:57:18 GMT
Hopefully going to one show in May, 2012. Whilst I'd love to see Jethro Tull performing TAAB, if IA has decided that it's to be the IA Band then so be it. And if by then we have the pleasure of TAAB remix + out-takes/alternate versions/songs that heve never been officially released/etc then I for one will be happy. I'm far too long in the tooth to switch allegiances now. It will be interesting to see if the IA Band fill the Hammersmith Apollo in April though
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Post by chea on Sept 6, 2011 7:23:34 GMT
Hi to All.. I find the idea interesting to execute all TaaB Album for entire live. It is not clear to me wether the TaaB Tour takes all the next Tour, or only a part of it. I look forward to know dates in my Country, or in the very near to us Switzerland. I will surely go. M.
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 6, 2011 7:34:45 GMT
Hi to All.. I find the idea interesting to execute all TaaB Album for entire live. It is not clear to me wether the TaaB Tour takes all the next Tour, or only a part of it. I look forward to know dates in my Country, or in the very near to us Switzerland. I will surely go. M. Won't we all M and a pity that we couldn't all go together! I'm a wimp (and a cash strapped wimp) it's too far for me to come over but I so look forward to hear about it so don't forget to let us know.
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Post by electrocutas on Sept 6, 2011 8:39:39 GMT
Re my Previous post I am Still a J.T. fan and I am still also an I.A. fan I just think that TAAB 2012 COULD have been such a spark to reignite Jethro Tull popularity and is a massive opportunity missed By being an I.A. band project. Also "The Word" is that Martin has played his last gig with Tull, now whether that is correct or not I have no idea. It is just "The Word" by those supposedly in the know. If however it is correct then for Christs sake just say so. As a fan I just want to know what I am a fan of. J.T. is not actually a branch of the secret service.... OR IS IT !!
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