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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 28, 2015 21:25:43 GMT
Have a great day Tibby10, Lordiffyboatrace & El Gringo. Many happy returns of the day to you all. The Dog. Ha *Deleted* Sorry folks! Clicked "latest threads, and erringly replied to a five year old post. Thanks 007 for notifying me of my bungle! That would be, Happy Birthday, Acreman & Equus!
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 16, 2015 22:07:35 GMT
This may have been done before, and if so, apologies; but then again, it's fun to talk about such things sometimes, eh? The way I went about collecting my Tull albums was quite strange, which is why I wanted to open such a thread. I already discussed how I came by my first Tull LP, Songs from the Wood, in a past thread. Just to quickly rehash: It was suggested to my brother by his friend. My brother and I would pool our allowance money to buy one record a week. I was reluctant to spend my three bucks on a record by a group I never heard of. ...skip a little brother... The rest of that story has already been told, about how the LP was cold and smelled like a campfire, because my brother had gone to a party in the woods (upstate NY, 1979) after he'd purchased the album. Needless to say, I was enchanted, and I instantly fell in love with the album, and with Tull. However, my second Tull purchase: not so good. It was WarChild, also at the suggestion of a friend. Well, that album was so radically different, so NOT like SFTW, that I hated it at first listen. I was shocked, and literally appalled! What kind of music was this? Saxophones? No flute on the eponymous track? And the end of Ladies, WTF? Was that a squeezebox on Queen and Country?? Who ever heard of such music? Lol. Remember, I was all of 15. Anyway, time passes, and the record grew on me, so much that I began to like it as much as SFTW. Meanwhile, my brother bought Bursting Out by himself, through one of those mail-in deals where you could get twelve records for a penny as long as you agreed to buy more over time for regular price. I REALLY loved the Bursting Out album, particularly the first two tracks. No Lullaby is still probably my favorite all time Tull song. After Bursting Out I bought Stormwatch. After that I bought Repeat, the second best of collection. ...skip a little brother... (Monty Python humor) I had some Christmas money saved up, plus money I had gotten elsewhere (don't remember, could have been saved up birthday money). I gave my brother my wad of money and asked him to get as many Tull albums as he could with it, and to save a few dollars for himself for making the effort. These were the days when the Tull bin was stuffed full. He came back with these records: Stand Up Benefit Thick as a Brick A Passion Play Too Old to Rock & Roll Too Young to Die By my reckoning, these purchases would have been upwards of 25 to 30 dollars. Some of the older Tull was cheaper. The albums at the department store we shopped at had stickers indicating their price. Anyway, I had a bonanza of new Tull to listen to when my brother came home with that lovely bundle. I was shocked to find that TAAB was a single song. Imagine my surprise when I saw that APP was also a single song! Remember, I knew no-one else who was into Tull, and I knew next to nothing about them. I don't think I liked Stand Up and/or Benefit as much as the later Tull, and I am still to this day building my appreciation for TOTRRTOTD. After that major bundle, my memory is shoddy. I do know that I got Heavy Horses free from a friend who didn't like it (perish the thought!); I got Broadsword and the Beast from that same friend, free. YAY! I bought This Was, and distinctly remember hating it with a passion. I have since grown to love it, of course. I bought A and loved it instantly. At one point Minstrel in the Gallery was the only Tull I didn't have. Eventually I got that from another anti-Tull friend who had purchased it but didn't like it. We had arguments over the virtues and value of Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull, and he seemed to think that Ian was someone to be ridiculed rather than admired. I am friends with this man to this day but I will NEVER understand such an attitude towards an obvious musical giant and one of the finest stage performers who ever lived. Now (or then), my collection was complete. This was around 1982. After that, I got each album as it came out. And that's my Tull collecting story. **Edit: I forgot Living in the Past! I think I got that some time after buying the Stormwatch LP. How could I forget LITP?
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 10, 2015 23:43:24 GMT
Never displayed the imagination and power of its art-rock peers? ? I could type about a thousand words explaining what's wrong with Rosenbluth's assertion, but I shall restrain myself, and display my good manners rather than my imagination and power...
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 9, 2015 23:53:59 GMT
He might of thrown in a few pounds to have her see to her bugs bunny teeth...or am I just being a snot because workmates are teasing my recent haircut ? What about Ian's missing tooth? All that dough, I'd just have them all yanked out and a fresh, spankin' new set of sparkly white dentures made, and I'd hire a 19 year old girl from Nayarit to keep them clean for me. No, just kidding. Make that two 19 year olds.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 7, 2015 3:04:38 GMT
Lol! Also, Ian didn't name the band Jethro Tull. As far as I know, he could never stand that name?
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 3, 2015 19:53:26 GMT
Something from 2003 in the MOJO Mag... I was going to see "Rubbing Elbows" in Durham, N.C. This exploded on the radio before we arrived at the show. My fear was that Ian would be booed. Fortunately no one acted that way and I tend to agree with his points. This was fine with me. There was excessive flag waving by those who wanted to use it as a political device. Ian realized what would happen so he apologized. The Dixie Chicks were not as fortunate. IA has always known how to toe the line between complete candor and tact. I don't blame him one bit for his irritation then, though I was quite a bit more 'patriotic' then than I am now. He's right. We in America, at least speaking for myself, who was born at West Point and raised in modest comfort and safety, and who has lived without having any notion whatsoever about what it would be like to be under organized military attack from another nation, have had it good, in comparison with the rest of the world, at least insofar as the insulation and security of our civilian population. There's no waffling about that, and no mistaking bare facts for any kind of real anti-American sentiment. However, I increasingly suspect that our time is coming, and that the possibility of an organized military invasion is no longer wholly in the realm of crackpot, alarmist fantasy.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 3, 2015 19:43:48 GMT
Love the article! I still hear people nagging about that Grammy thing. I personally never cared one way or the other, as I think awards for art are silly, sort of the way George C. Scott was purported to feel about it, if memory serves. Awards should be for athletes who compete in real time against each other, aggressively, who are by nature competitive and like-minded, with a bent to 'win'; or to scientists, or people in general who do things that save lives and cause tangible improvements in everyday life. I think rewards for art are perfectly fine, and damn well-deserved for people who work as hard as touring performance bands and artists. I saw a long video of an interview with Joe Perry of Aerosmith's guitar tech, for example. It took a full 30 minutes for the man to explain the purpose and function of all the guitars, amps, effects boxes, and various items of equipment used by Perry for every show. A lot of people imagine that the life of a rock star is all glitter and glamour, sex, drugs, and good fun, and don't bear in mind the amount of work that goes into not only composing and recording an album's worth of music but also to take that onto the road and translate it into live performance over an extended period of time. Ian was right to be proud of the award though, as an acknowledgment of Tull's two decades of work, and he was spot on to intimate that Metallica, and their fans, were maybe a bit silly in making such a fuss being that they were upstarts. I don't have any major beef against awards for art, I'm just one of those starving artists with the standard two cents and an ever-duller axe to grind. Pardon my speech-ifying. Totally agree and I think Ian thinks that way too. Happy to receive them but not that bothered if he doesn't. PS got updates from Mother on her time spent at Stewart airbase - will follow under "Strange Coincidences Shared By Tullfans" thread Great to hear! I look forward to the stories and to taking part in the thread.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jul 3, 2015 2:42:08 GMT
Love the article! I still hear people nagging about that Grammy thing. I personally never cared one way or the other, as I think awards for art are silly, sort of the way George C. Scott was purported to feel about it, if memory serves. Awards should be for athletes who compete in real time against each other, aggressively, who are by nature competitive and like-minded, with a bent to 'win'; or to scientists, or people in general who do things that save lives and cause tangible improvements in everyday life. I think rewards for art are perfectly fine, and damn well-deserved for people who work as hard as touring performance bands and artists. I saw a long video of an interview with Joe Perry of Aerosmith's guitar tech, for example. It took a full 30 minutes for the man to explain the purpose and function of all the guitars, amps, effects boxes, and various items of equipment used by Perry for every show. A lot of people imagine that the life of a rock star is all glitter and glamour, sex, drugs, and good fun, and don't bear in mind the amount of work that goes into not only composing and recording an album's worth of music but also to take that onto the road and translate it into live performance over an extended period of time. Ian was right to be proud of the award though, as an acknowledgment of Tull's two decades of work, and he was spot on to intimate that Metallica, and their fans, were maybe a bit silly in making such a fuss being that they were upstarts. I don't have any major beef against awards for art, I'm just one of those starving artists with the standard two cents and an ever-duller axe to grind. Pardon my speech-ifying.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 29, 2015 5:38:37 GMT
You guys are way ahead of me. Thanks for the explanations! Love that hat.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 28, 2015 3:07:12 GMT
I was referring to the one Ian is wearing in tootull's signature pics, with the lyric from 'Rocks on the Road' under it. Odd how you quoted me from another thread but it wound up in this thread?
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 26, 2015 21:51:26 GMT
I wish Ian would go back to the black tophat! Looks way better than the bandana. And he can still hide his MPB. I disguise my ever-thinning hair by mowing it every day. Then I can imagine that women think I have good hair but just choose to shave my noggin because I'm a bad-ass, while in fact I'm a powder-puff. Actually, powder-puffs are probably tougher than I am. Seriously, though, I make sure the women I work with know full-well that I'm a chipmunk in a man's body. One of my fave bits from a Woody Allen movie, Bananas, is when the leader of a rebel army in a fictitious South American country tells Woody: "One day, you will be a tiger!" Woody answers: "Yeah, okay. When you need a squirrel, let me know."
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 26, 2015 9:40:47 GMT
Met Bernie today! Sad that neither of us has Tull gear on (though he's got the tattoo) and neither of us has a beer, but next time he's on my coast (or vice-versa) for sure! No Tull gear. HEY! Nice to see you guys... well, well, well, now I know who to hide from... Shall we scoff at the monkeys who live in their dark tents, down by the waterhole, drunk every Friday, eating their nuts, saving their raisins for Sunday?
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 26, 2015 9:31:56 GMT
I worked with a bloke once who had tattoo's everywhere including his willy. Please tell me it isn't there. was it a small one? You made me Laugh Out Loud, fer realziez! < please note the tres chic spelling. <and please note the pretentious Frenchificationalizationing of my otherwise simple post.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 21, 2015 5:46:36 GMT
Who's who? & what tattoo? I need the scoop cuz I'm outta the loop.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 16, 2015 10:34:06 GMT
I will have to ask him tomorrow or when I can, but I believe he did two years in the reserves so it would probably have been sometime between '61 and '64. I know he went into civil service at West Point right after the air force. My brother and I were both born at West Point. He was delivered by a captain, I by a major, therefore I outrank him. I'll post some more info and maybe some more pictures, up and coming. By the way, I like the Michael Palin. My favorite pepperpot was Terry Jones. I think he/she says in some bit, "I like civil servants!" Nice hearing your mum is in good health! I work with seniors in an assisted living facility and my workdays are long but very often fun because of my interaction with them. I love them to death and actually enjoy going to work, a feeling I haven't had in a good while. Say hello to your mom, and give her my regards. Newburgh is very close to New Windsor, where the photo of the Dunbar clan was taken. The entire area where I grew up is steeped in history. I could go on for days about all the houses I saw where George Washington was supposed to have slept! Thanks for the view. It looks lovely where you live. My mom has always wished to visit Ireland, but never got the chance. I hope someday to be able to grant her wish.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 16, 2015 2:41:21 GMT
testing, one two three I thought I could post a pic direct via my blog, but I guess I need a proper photo hosting account.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 15, 2015 21:12:21 GMT
Thanks for all that, nonrabbit! Well, it's a small world! My father was in the air force reserves, and was stationed at Stewart Airforce Base until after I was born. I lived until I was 12 in a trailer park directly across from the entrance to the base, called Silver Stream trailer park. I had a photo of my mom and me as my avatar for a little while, standing in the road in front of our trailer. I went to Newburgh district schools for grades 1 thru 6, then we moved to a small town called Mountainville, and I attended Cornwall Central High School, where I graduated as a super senior in 1983. Super seniors were what they called us numbnuts who took a year extra to graduate. I couldn't graduate after my first senior year because of a lack of credits. I failed every class that year except English. I even failed gym class. I was a long-haired rocker wannabe and didn't think an education was for such rarefied geniuses as my silly self!
Stewart airforce base has the distinction of being the airport where the body of Richard Nixon came through when he died. In Mountainville, I lived 2 miles away from what my friends and I thought of as 'that rickety old trestle'. Only after I moved to Arizona and looked it up did I discover that it was called Moodna Viaduct, which has the distinction of being the longest and highest train trestle east of the Mississippi. It's quite a famous viaduct and is well known the world over! It recently, in 2006, celebrated its centennial, and has been refurbished. It's now a major tourist attraction.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 15, 2015 4:18:41 GMT
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 15, 2015 4:18:00 GMT
nonrabbit: I didn't really think it was you, but I didn't know for certain so I thought I'd best be polite. It's easy to get in trouble these days. My mom's mom was born in Sligo. I believe William Butler Yeats wrote of that town. Who knows, maybe my grandma bumped into him? No poets in either of my family line, however, until I came down with it and passed the affliction to my kids. My 17 yr. old writes villanelles. Caught that bad habit from his old man. My grandma really did resemble that gal in the photo, though. I may be able to rustle up a photo and do a mash-up, which I will post, if I find one. Thanks for the info, all! I know you didn't really think it was me ........but I had to be sure Sligo is not far from me - I visit Sligo town a few times in the year in fact the Sligo bus stops outside my house. So a young Irish girl left Sligo and moved to America - how unusual!! Have you ever visited here or the UK? I don't make a habit of putting up pictures of myself but for you I'll make an exception. "some matronly type" Yes, my grandma and grandpa left merry old Ireland at the same time but I believe they met here in NYC. My grandfather, Thomas Dunbar, was an excellent tenor singer, and had an audition once at Carnegie Hall, but decided to go to the pub instead, and spent the rest of his days in regret, according to my mom. He died in 1958. My mom relates that at supper time it was often her job to find Daddy, and she would run to any one of the local pubs, knowing he'd be in one of them. My grandma was 52 when grandpa died but never remarried or even dated again. She had eight children with him. My mom was the last of five girls. She also had three brothers. They lived in poverty in the Bronx, NY, and things were even harder, naturally, when grandpa died. My grandma's name was Mary Waters, before getting married. I wondered when I was a prog-sprout if she had any connection to the mighty Roger Waters, but of course she hadn't, Waters being a very common name, and Roger being English anyway. I found a photo of my mother and her mother, and some other members of the Dunbar clan, taken in the Bronx, NY, 1963**. My mom is pregnant with my older brother in the photo. I was as yet just a gleam in my pop's eye, and a major surprise, since she conceived me only three months after giving birth to my brother. He was born July 1, 1963; I on July 2, 1964. In those days some women were under the mistaken impression that they could not get pregnant while nursing. Hah! because of that, I am now here to bore you with trivia. In some early photos, my mother bore a resemblance to Elizabeth Taylor. She's 71 now and just survived quadruple bypass surgery, and is as spry as a spring lamb. My pop is 72 and has less gray hair than I do. Here's a link to the photo: plorfinglame.blogspot.com/2015/06/temporary-photo.html**I was wrong. It was New Windsor. I forgot! The clan had come up north for a visit to my mom and dad who had just gotten hitched. ***'Nuther edit: Oops. Forgot to answer your question: Nope. I've never been out of the United States, not even to Mexico or Canada, despite the fact that I've lived in upstate New York and now in Midwest Arizona. I'm something of a hermit.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 14, 2015 13:00:22 GMT
Looks like I bungled it up, in the desert, rather than the jungle! I've never seen the film, but maybe I'll have to check it out. Don't watch much lately - too busy working, reading, and spreading myself mighty thin on the Net. nonrabbit: I didn't really think it was you, but I didn't know for certain so I thought I'd best be polite. It's easy to get in trouble these days. My mom's mom was born in Sligo. I believe William Butler Yeats wrote of that town. Who knows, maybe my grandma bumped into him? No poets in either of my family line, however, until I came down with it and passed the affliction to my kids. My 17 yr. old writes villanelles. Caught that bad habit from his old man. My grandma really did resemble that gal in the photo, though. I may be able to rustle up a photo and do a mash-up, which I will post, if I find one. Thanks for the info, all! **Oh, yes, will post some snaps of Havasu as well. I'll try to keep any and all thongs out of frame, for modesty's sake.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 14, 2015 3:18:24 GMT
Wait a tick, that's not beer, or is it? And that must be bunkerfan? Still don't know who the other 2 fine fellows are.
I see palm trees. Got lots of those here in Lake Havasu, where it just rained recently for about five minutes.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 14, 2015 3:15:01 GMT
Great photo and nice to see two Tull fans meeting up and no doubt putting the world to rights. Can I come next time and we'll act out an episode of "Last of the Summer wine". and I'll bring the glamourBy the way Boys, joking aside you all look very handsome. and don't let my picture or my signature for that matter put you off I'd really love to know who's who here. I think I can guess who the handsome gal in the rollers is (looks a lot like my mom's mom, from Ireland, born 1906 or thereabouts, passed away at 92 God bless her soul), but the blokes? I can't sort it out. It'd be great if I could put a face to a name in my noodle. Who's the fellow with the glass of beer? And who are the other two guys with the Catfish Rising and Aqualung shirts?
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 12, 2015 5:08:18 GMT
Amazing. Thanks to you, elmsliegirl, especially. What an honor it is just to be able to post on the same board with someone who was so close to my lifelong hero and idol.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 12, 2015 4:46:24 GMT
re: A New Day Yesterday live versions.
The first version I heard of that song was on Bursting Out, and it was one of my faves, especially because of the blistering Martin solo. When I heard the studio version - on the Best of JT Repeat I believe - I was shocked at the difference, and I distinctly remember not liking it very much.
Now, I've flipped over completely. I think Ian and the boys completely altered the song by 1976 or so - could have been even earlier - and it was only a dim shadow of its mighty original. The original studio version is in my view one of Tull's greatest songs, easily in the top ten, maybe even top five. Even for Glenn and Clive's work alone.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 12, 2015 4:33:34 GMT
And ask of me no answer There is none that I could give, you wouldn't find
Read more: Jethro Tull - Nothing To Say Lyrics | MetroLyrics
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 11, 2015 2:49:33 GMT
Close the door and bar the gate But keep the windows clean God's alive inside a movie
Watch the silver screen - Keith Reid (poet, prophet) Read more: Procol Harum - Whaling Stories Lyrics | MetroLyrics [emphasis added, FDA]
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 11, 2015 2:43:02 GMT
It is wrong to assume, as some have done, that cinema belongs to women. Cinema is created by men for the consolation of men. - Jim Morrison
In the womb we are blind cave fish. - ibid.
Quotes from The Lords, Notes on Vision, 1968
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 4, 2015 3:40:18 GMT
We milk the cow of the world, and as we do We whisper in her ear, "You are not true."
- Richard Wilbur, Epistemology
^ over 3,000 yrs of philosophy condensed into 2 lines.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 3, 2015 5:52:31 GMT
Welcome, from another Prentice Jack! I yahood instead of googling, and didn't have to scroll at all: Yahooey!
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on Jun 1, 2015 8:41:46 GMT
Thanks! I will clickety-clicky post-haste.
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