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Post by rebecca on Jan 3, 2009 18:23:47 GMT
Okay, I'm going to start a wierd little thread and see how it flies. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks about things like this. Have you ever heard a song and thought "That's the kind of thing I wish somebody would tell me"? I mean, it reflects how you feel and it seems to see you in the way you want to be seen... I have a friend who swore she'd marry the first man who sang "Kentucky Woman" for her. Not me. My ex husband's song for me was "Son of a Preacher Man," with the gender reversed (me being the daughter of a preacherman), and that's pretty darn good. My ideal one used to be Dylan's "Sara": "Scorpio sphinx in a calico dress," etc. But that's a bit outdated and at this point I'm never going to have a houseful of kids with anybody, which is integral to the song!
So these days it's Iron and Wine's "Jezebel," which I was just listening to. Here's a homemade video that uses the song if you don't know it:
Now, I really hope that I'm not the only one who ever has thought about this. You all help me out. Everybody wants to be loved, you ought to have a song!
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 3, 2009 23:12:09 GMT
There is a Grateful dead song,called "World to Give' which I always imagined as part of marriage vows...so far i have never said or heard those lyrics in a romantic situation...I'd settle for Elvis Costello 'i Want You' My fantasy is not a song...it is to enter the Moffat Tunnel in Colorado, a 7 mile train tunnel that you experience by jumping a freight train, with a woman I love, propose in the tunnel, which goes under the continental divide...and emerge on the other side engaged........might yet happen but I'll need a babysitter for my 4 year old!
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Post by fatman on Jan 4, 2009 2:17:44 GMT
There is a Grateful dead song,called "World to Give' which I always imagined as part of marriage vows...so far i have never said or heard those lyrics in a romantic situation...I'd settle for Elvis Costello 'i Want You' My fantasy is not a song...it is to enter the Moffat Tunnel in Colorado, a 7 mile train tunnel that you experience by jumping a freight train, with a woman I love, propose in the tunnel, which goes under the continental divide...and emerge on the other side engaged........might yet happen but I'll need a babysitter for my 4 year old! Bernie, you just mentioned my favorite Elvis Costello song. Elvis is another artist who writes great love songs, which is probably the most difficult kind of song to write because it's been done so often and there are so many cliches. I Want You is a masterpiece, the way he keeps repeating that line and all the little things about her he misses and how he gets sick to his stomach thinking about her doing "stuff" with another guy. (Is it okay to say that here? ) There's one point in the song where he's cringing imaging her new lover using those same words, "I want you," to her and that is followed by a distorted guitar line, the main riff only twistedly warbled, which is just perfect. You can just feel the unbearable anguish, jealousy and obsession of the protagonist, especially at the end, where he is just whispering, croaking the line "I want you" as if he were going to pass out from grief. I just love that song. Jeff
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Post by fatman on Jan 4, 2009 2:40:12 GMT
Okay, I'm going to start a wierd little thread and see how it flies. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks about things like this. Have you ever heard a song and thought "That's the kind of thing I wish somebody would tell me"? I mean, it reflects how you feel and it seems to see you in the way you want to be seen... I have a friend who swore she'd marry the first man who sang "Kentucky Woman" for her. Not me. My ex husband's song for me was "Son of a Preacher Man," with the gender reversed (me being the daughter of a preacherman), and that's pretty darn good. My ideal one used to be Dylan's "Sara": "Scorpio sphinx in a calico dress," etc. But that's a bit outdated and at this point I'm never going to have a houseful of kids with anybody, which is integral to the song! So these days it's Iron and Wine's "Jezebel," which I was just listening to. Here's a homemade video that uses the song if you don't know it: Now, I really hope that I'm not the only one who ever has thought about this. You all help me out. Everybody wants to be loved, you ought to have a song! Rebecca, I've never heard Iron and Wine before, but I like that song a lot. I can see why you love Wondring Aloud so much. It's one of my all time favorite Tull songs, and so is Wondring Again. I think what makes Wondring Aloud so great is the simple sentiments it expresses, which are so romantic and hopeful in their outlook, looking forward to their life together, in the same way that The Jasmine Corridor looks back over a lifetime shared with one's soulmate. I love the metaphors that Ian employs, like "sipping the sunset" and "tasting the smell," her "floating" in the kitchen. The song is very sensual, all five senses are involved, the feel of her hair, the sounds of their hearts beating together, the heavenly sight of her returning to the bed, the smell of the buttery toast which he can almost taste as she spills the crumbs onto the bed. I have always felt that the lyrical and musical quality of Ian's beautiful acoustic ballads is what truly sets Tull apart from all other bands, by leaps and bounds, more so even than his flute, unique stage presentation, and the excellence of Tull's heavy rock material. Jeff
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 4, 2009 11:24:41 GMT
I always fancied myself as a singer - I was often to be found holding the hairbrush pretending to be Plant!(singing not brushing) "Your tea's ready!" ....."Not now Mum I'm at Wembley..." ( Bill Bailey joke Therefore I would be more inclined to be singing the love song rather than have one sung about me. However this one can be done both ways.. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRo_CHSdt0
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Post by rebecca on Jan 5, 2009 3:10:23 GMT
Hmm. It's interesting that these are kind of sad songs! Anyone care to elaborate?
I guess mine is sad too, in a way. I see it a bit about being the one man who really comprehends a misunderstood woman (you know, as a reinterpretation of the Biblical character). I guess one thing I really want in a relationship is to be understood and seen for who I really am instead of what's on the surface.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 5, 2009 3:30:24 GMT
Hey, Jeff, Iron and Wine (who is really one guy, Sam Beam, and doesn't have a fixed band) is one of my favorite current/new-ish musicians. I remember that song in particular from about 4 years ago when I was working in a record store - we got an advance copy of the EP "Woman King" that this is from and we were just nuts about it. But anyway, this is the kind of thing he does, and I guess it can seem kind of samey, although he's been branching out and rocking a little bit lately. Now I'm not going to out anybody, but I know there is another Iron and Wine fan here and this is his favorite, or was anyway (it's just over a still photo but it's the best live version of the song they've got) I think he tends to end his shows with this one.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 5, 2009 3:47:17 GMT
There is a Grateful dead song,called "World to Give' which I always imagined as part of marriage vows...so far i have never said or heard those lyrics in a romantic situation...I'd settle for Elvis Costello 'i Want You' My fantasy is not a song...it is to enter the Moffat Tunnel in Colorado, a 7 mile train tunnel that you experience by jumping a freight train, with a woman I love, propose in the tunnel, which goes under the continental divide...and emerge on the other side engaged........might yet happen but I'll need a babysitter for my 4 year old! Bernie, you just mentioned my favorite Elvis Costello song. Elvis is another artist who writes great love songs, which is probably the most difficult kind of song to write because it's been done so often and there are so many cliches. I Want You is a masterpiece, the way he keeps repeating that line and all the little things about her he misses and how he gets sick to his stomach thinking about her doing "stuff" with another guy. (Is it okay to say that here? ) There's one point in the song where he's cringing imaging her new lover using those same words, "I want you," to her and that is followed by a distorted guitar line, the main riff only twistedly warbled, which is just perfect. You can just feel the unbearable anguish, jealousy and obsession of the protagonist, especially at the end, where he is just whispering, croaking the line "I want you" as if he were going to pass out from grief. I just love that song. Jeff I don't know this Elvis Costello song, although I do have a lot of his albums. Which one is it on? "Songs for a wedding" - that could be a topic too. I have no idea. I don't think "Jezebel" would be quite appropriate!
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Post by fatman on Jan 5, 2009 3:48:41 GMT
Hey, Jeff, Iron and Wine (who is really one guy, Sam Beam, and doesn't have a fixed band) is one of my favorite current/new-ish musicians. I remember that song in particular from about 4 years ago when I was working in a record store - we got an advance copy of the EP "Woman King" that this is from and we were just nuts about it. But anyway, this is the kind of thing he does, and I guess it can seem kind of samey, although he's been branching out and rocking a little bit lately. Now I'm not going to out anybody, but I know there is another Iron and Wine fan here and this is his favorite, or was anyway (it's just over a still photo but it's the best live version of the song they've got) So Rebecca, I am curious, which of Ian's love songs other than Wond'ring Aloud/Again do you like and which don't you like? As I was saying on the other thread, I think love songs are Ian's greatest strength, and personally, I like the way he is so adept at describing the sadness and gut-wrenching pain of rejection that many men feel when they are dumped (e.g., Witch's Promise), or in love with someone who does not even know they exist ( e.g., Pibroch). Nobody really pays attention to the Teacher lyrics, but they are describing the utter depression of a guy who's been dumped and just cannot get over her, despite all the best efforts of his friends, he tries to socialize but can't seem to find what he's looking for because he's got something on her mind (her). I guess you can say that many of Ian's love songs (but certainly not all) are written from the male perspective, and so maybe you don't relate to them as well? Jeff
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Post by fatman on Jan 5, 2009 4:24:01 GMT
I Want You is on the album Blood and Chocolate. You can probably download the song from Itunes. Great lyrics and singing by Elvis. The album as a whole is excellent, except for an awful eight minute song called Tokyo Storm Warning, which I hate.
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Post by jioffe on Jan 5, 2009 19:49:10 GMT
Hey, Jeff, Iron and Wine (who is really one guy, Sam Beam, and doesn't have a fixed band) is one of my favorite current/new-ish musicians. I remember that song in particular from about 4 years ago when I was working in a record store - we got an advance copy of the EP "Woman King" that this is from and we were just nuts about it. But anyway, this is the kind of thing he does, and I guess it can seem kind of samey, although he's been branching out and rocking a little bit lately. Now I'm not going to out anybody, but I know there is another Iron and Wine fan here and this is his favorite, or was anyway (it's just over a still photo but it's the best live version of the song they've got) I'll assume it's me you're 'outing' (if it isn't, I'll still carry on, regardless) - although I didn't know I was in a closet! I didn't even know there was a closet for Iron & Wine fans! Anyway, if you'd asked me cold, I think I'd now say my favourite is a toss up between this: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-T78_X5k2aEand this: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KHw7gdJ14uQAnd, talking of favourite love songs, I'll have to go with this from my all time top ten of all time, mate: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7VHc13c8O_Uif only to give Roy some exposure here. There's a part 2, btw, if anyone's interested. Roy's influence on IA's acoustic music deserves to made in relation to this discussion. From an IA interview with Classic Rock mag, 2001: "Roy Harper has always been a musicians' musician, a cult figure among his peers yet relatively unknown by the record-buying public. His acoustic guitar style and manically magical songs won him respect from the likes of Zeppelin's Jimmy Page — who'd paid homage to him on 'Hats Off To (Roy) Harper', on the then just released Led Zeppelin III; in the mid-70s Harper was seconded by Pink Floyd to do vocals on their Wish You Were Here album. It was in association with Harper that Anderson found the courage to write songs on acoustic guitar and leave them that way on the record. Anderson had always used a guitar to compose, but prior to Aqualung he'd write the song and quickly hand it over to the other guys so they could do the big job of playing it; "I'd just decorate it with flute or harmonica". Tull's previous release, Benefit, had seen Anderson flirt with more acoustic guitar input, but it was with Aqualung that "I took myself seriously to both sing and play, and then record and perform live in the way that I wrote. It was a departure." Full article: www.tullpress.com/craug01.htmCheers, Jioffe.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 5, 2009 23:29:36 GMT
Fats...Tokyo Storm Warning is a Great song...a straight rip from the Stone's 19th nervous breakdown with amazing, cynical, insightful, on target lyrics...maybe you need the long version, released as a single or the live version with Elvis explaining some of the lyrics ( Japanese girls paying plastic jesus machines to print fortunes....american fish and chip franchises ( H Salt, was it?) printing make-believe newspaper wrapping....one of his 8 or 10 best songs ever in my humble and always correct opinion.
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Post by fatman on Jan 6, 2009 3:55:05 GMT
Fats...Tokyo Storm Warning is a Great song...a straight rip from the Stone's 19th nervous breakdown with amazing, cynical, insightful, on target lyrics...maybe you need the long version, released as a single or the live version with Elvis explaining some of the lyrics ( Japanese girls paying plastic jesus machines to print fortunes....american fish and chip franchises ( H Salt, was it?) printing make-believe newspaper wrapping....one of his 8 or 10 best songs ever in my humble and always correct opinion. I'm with you on I Want You and the rest of the album 100%. I think Blood and Chocolate is Elvis's last great album. While I agree the lyrics to TSW are interesting, I just don't like the melody, it's annoyingly repetitious (unlike I Want You, where the repetition is partly what makes the song so great) and I find the singing grating. You say TSW sounds like Stones, but to me it sounds more like Dylan, and I hate Dylan. I bought some of Elvis's later records, like The Delivery Man, Brutal Youth and When I was Cruel, but the songs on those albums did not grab me upon first listening, and I never really had the urge to give those records another spin, although I'm sure I should. I think for me I like Elvis with the Attractions a lot more than Elvis with the Imposters. Jeff
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Post by rebecca on Jan 6, 2009 4:59:20 GMT
Well, I don't think it is the male/female thing because that doesn't seem to slow me down - after all, while the trappings may be different, the underlying feelings are the same. We all know what it's all these things are like.
For one thing, I guess it depends on how you define love songs - your definition seems broader than mine. Also, I think a lot of it is just what Steelmonkey is talking about with Hymn 43 - chemistry. The latter ones, especiall, don't work for me.
But, to try to intellectualize it: up to about Stormwatch, I think they're generally pretty good, and his lust songs are too - although he always seems a bit removed from being vulnerable, like he's observing somebody else - not that that is necessarily bad, just a matter of taste, I guess. We all know what was going on in his life then, so it makes sense. After that era, I just haven't found them convincing. The most recent song about a relationship that I thought had real heart in it was Flying Colours, and that one isn't exactly a happy song - it feels real to me, though. I can't think of any on the latter albums that don't either seem like fantasies, or feel a bit forced (like he's supposed to be writing this kind of song now and then). His lusty songs seem labored also. Another thing is that these songs tend to be about him rather than the beloved. It just seems like all that concerns him about her is what she does for him, whatever meets the eye - there doesn't seem to be much interest in her as a human being, beyond the exterior. Now I'm not interested in gossip about the Andersons or anything, but the feeling I get from these songs is that the bloom is off that rose. And of course that's common, it's not a criticism.
Just my thoughts, of course. Overal, I just think he's more interesting when he's writing about other things.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 6, 2009 5:00:16 GMT
I Want You is on the album Blood and Chocolate. You can probably download the song from Itunes. Great lyrics and singing by Elvis. The album as a whole is excellent, except for an awful eight minute song called Tokyo Storm Warning, which I hate. Jeff I'll see if I can find it.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 6, 2009 5:27:18 GMT
Hi Jioffe,
Yeah, Resurrection Fern is probably my favorite from that album. It gets some competition from Carousel.
It was you I was outing - or rather it was you I was NOT outing! I don't know if you ever go by the website, but right now you can download 8 alternative takes of the Shepherd's Dog tracks for free. And get ready for new Decemberists in March!
I think that's a great Roy Harper song too. Maybe even mind-expanding.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 6, 2009 21:14:49 GMT
By the way, I & W was on TV last night - he's cut his long baby hair!
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Post by jioffe on Jan 6, 2009 22:08:17 GMT
Hi Jioffe, Yeah, Resurrection Fern is probably my favorite from that album. It gets some competition from Carousel. Two or three less interesting tracks but overall, a strong and consistent album. ;D It's on the '2 do' list! That news aroused exactly 97.8642% of the elation the announcement of a new Tull album would have done! I expect you've heard the 'Always The Bridesmaid' singles. 'Record Year' is just wonderful! It was when I first heard it but that's another story! I also spent 6 hours watching a spider spinning a web that day! (sorry for mentioning the s... word!) I also wish I'd raised this quite serious point about Harper's influence on IA in a thread of its own instead of tucked away in here! To Col: There's got to be an easier way of responding to individual points than all this cutting and pasting. It's been a right royal pain in the arse! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 7, 2009 5:13:09 GMT
I can't even begin to try to isolate lines to respond to! I just have to try to remember what you said.
Concerning your Roy Harper story, I may have a story too, soon. I've got somebody on it. I don't worry so much about spiders these days - I'm living with a cat who loves to eat bugs. He won't eat chicken, but if it's got an exoskeleton, he's all over it. I haven't even seen a creepy crawly since about September, and if there's a fly or something, I just make sure he notices it and he's on the job. He'll knock it out of the air and come up chewing. What a good boy! It really is kind of pathetic how neurotic I am about that; I feel so much more relaxed now and I hate to admit it.
As to The Decemberists, yes, I think Record Year is great, and the best of those songs. It's funny, several of them seem to take off in kind of a lackluster way but pick up some sort of momentum midway and I really like the ENDS of them. None of them are throwaways, though, which they easily could have been.
A couple of other things: Have you heard the Crane Wife Demos? Well worth it - I'll wait to find out if you have before I say more. One thing on it that really surprised me. And there is a Colin Meloy Sings Live that's really nice too.
It's funny how these threads change so much, and so fast!
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Post by jioffe on Jan 7, 2009 22:21:25 GMT
I can't even begin to try to isolate lines to respond to! I just have to try to remember what you said. Let's try this tried and trusted method!Concerning your Roy Harper story, I may have a story too, soon. I've got somebody on it. Intrigued! I don't worry so much about spiders these days - I'm living with a cat who loves to eat bugs. He won't eat chicken, but if it's got an exoskeleton, he's all over it. Calcium deficiency? I haven't even seen a creepy crawly since about September, and if there's a fly or something, I just make sure he notices it and he's on the job. He'll knock it out of the air and come up chewing. What a good boy! It really is kind of pathetic how neurotic I am about that; I feel so much more relaxed now and I hate to admit it. Hmm! ;DAs to The Decemberists, yes, I think Record Year is great, and the best of those songs. It's funny, several of them seem to take off in kind of a lackluster way but pick up some sort of momentum midway and I really like the ENDS of them. None of them are throwaways, though, which they easily could have been. Not mad on the Velvet Underground cover but the new songs are all good. I'd say 'low-key' rather than 'lacklustre'. A couple of other things: Have you heard the Crane Wife Demos? Well worth it - I'll wait to find out if you have before I say more. One thing on it that really surprised me. And there is a Colin Meloy Sings Live that's really nice too. You'll have to enlarge on the Demos. Not sure, so assume a 'no'. I've heard the live CM album and his Sam Cooke stuff. It's funny how these threads change so much, and so fast! So what did you think of Narrow Stairs?
Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 8, 2009 2:10:22 GMT
I can't even begin to try to isolate lines to respond to! I just have to try to remember what you said.
Let's try this tried and trusted method!
Okay, we'll see if we can make the rainbow. This board gives you some pretty fancy options, doesn't it? Concerning your Roy Harper story, I may have a story too, soon. I've got somebody on it. Intrigued! Well, I'll let you know if/when there's anything to know! I don't worry so much about spiders these days - I'm living with a cat who loves to eat bugs. He won't eat chicken, but if it's got an exoskeleton, he's all over it. Calcium deficiency? Hope not! He likes cellophane too. Does that contain calcium? I haven't even seen a creepy crawly since about September, and if there's a fly or something, I just make sure he notices it and he's on the job. He'll knock it out of the air and come up chewing. What a good boy! It really is kind of pathetic how neurotic I am about that; I feel so much more relaxed now and I hate to admit it.
Hmm!
You know, it's like the problem sort of solved itself without me paying attention to it, and when you mentioned it it made me realize that it's vanished!
As to The Decemberists, yes, I think Record Year is great, and the best of those songs. It's funny, several of them seem to take off in kind of a lackluster way but pick up some sort of momentum midway and I really like the ENDS of them. None of them are throwaways, though, which they easily could have been.
Not mad on the Velvet Underground cover but the new songs are all good. I'd say 'low-key' rather than 'lacklustre'. Which is the Velvet Underground?
A couple of other things: Have you heard the Crane Wife Demos? Well worth it - I'll wait to find out if you have before I say more. One thing on it that really surprised me. And there is a Colin Meloy Sings Live that's really nice too.
You'll have to enlarge on the Demos. Not sure, so assume a 'no'. I've heard the live CM album and his Sam Cooke stuff.
Well, they're a bit less dressed up. What I was really excited by was that it has Crane Wife 1, 2, and 3 in order, just Colin and his guitar, and the guitar is so good you don't miss the rest of the band at all. But then, right at the end of Crane Wife 2 when you think you're just going to have to weep at hearing it all put together so beautifully - they cheat and just splice onto it an obviously different take of CW 3! This part sounds pretty much like the album version minus bass and drums. I have no idea who is responsible for doing this! 1 and 2 are wonderful, but it is a letdown at the end. But also there are a couple of extra songs I don't remember coming across anywhere else - The Cap Street Girls, which I don't think is anything very special, and The Day I Knew You Wouldn't Ever Come Back, which I think IS very special, and really, kind of a different sound for them. Speaking of Colin and his guitar, I think on the Live album, California One/Youth and Beauty Brigade is just gorgeous..
It's funny how these threads change so much, and so fast!
So what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one!
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Post by jioffe on Jan 8, 2009 17:57:33 GMT
I can't even begin to try to isolate lines to respond to! I just have to try to remember what you said. Let's try this tried and trusted method! Okay, we'll see if we can make the rainbow. This board gives you some pretty fancy options, doesn't it? Oi! What happened to my teal? Concerning your Roy Harper story, I may have a story too, soon. I've got somebody on it. Intrigued! Well, I'll let you know if/when there's anything to know! OK. I don't worry so much about spiders these days - I'm living with a cat who loves to eat bugs. He won't eat chicken, but if it's got an exoskeleton, he's all over it. Calcium deficiency? Hope not! He likes cellophane too. Does that contain calcium? Doubt it. Maybe it's just the crunch he likes. I haven't even seen a creepy crawly since about September, and if there's a fly or something, I just make sure he notices it and he's on the job. He'll knock it out of the air and come up chewing. What a good boy! It really is kind of pathetic how neurotic I am about that; I feel so much more relaxed now and I hate to admit it. Hmm! You know, it's like the problem sort of solved itself without me paying attention to it, and when you mentioned it it made me realize that it's vanished!Well that's great but don't you think you should wait 'til the summer before a definitive declaration?As to The Decemberists, yes, I think Record Year is great, and the best of those songs. It's funny, several of them seem to take off in kind of a lackluster way but pick up some sort of momentum midway and I really like the ENDS of them. None of them are throwaways, though, which they easily could have been. Not mad on the Velvet Underground cover but the new songs are all good. I'd say 'low-key' rather than 'lacklustre'. Which is the Velvet Underground?I'm Sticking With You.A couple of other things: Have you heard the Crane Wife Demos? Well worth it - I'll wait to find out if you have before I say more. One thing on it that really surprised me. And there is a Colin Meloy Sings Live that's really nice too. You'll have to enlarge on the Demos. Not sure, so assume a 'no'. I've heard the live CM album and his Sam Cooke stuff. Well, they're a bit less dressed up. What I was really excited by was that it has Crane Wife 1, 2, and 3 in order, just Colin and his guitar, and the guitar is so good you don't miss the rest of the band at all. But then, right at the end of Crane Wife 2 when you think you're just going to have to weep at hearing it all put together so beautifully - they cheat and just splice onto it an obviously different take of CW 3! This part sounds pretty much like the album version minus bass and drums. I have no idea who is responsible for doing this! 1 and 2 are wonderful, but it is a letdown at the end. But also there are a couple of extra songs I don't remember coming across anywhere else - The Cap Street Girls, which I don't think is anything very special, and The Day I Knew You Wouldn't Ever Come Back, which I think IS very special, and really, kind of a different sound for them. Speaking of Colin and his guitar, I think on the Live album, California One/Youth and Beauty Brigade is just gorgeous.. No. This one definitely passed me by. Any idea where I could get to hear them? Is that the same 'The Day I knew...' as on the extras? I'll have to give the live CM another spin. You know me and live albums.It's funny how these threads change so much, and so fast! So what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one!No probs.
Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 8, 2009 18:38:36 GMT
Oi! What happened to my teal?
I don't mean to take away your crayons. How are you doing it? I'm cutting and pasting in the reply box and it loses its colors. Calcium deficiency? Hope not! He likes cellophane too. Does that contain calcium? Doubt it. Maybe it's just the crunch he likes. I haven't even seen a creepy crawly since about September, and if there's a fly or something, I just make sure he notices it and he's on the job. He'll knock it out of the air and come up chewing. What a good boy! It really is kind of pathetic how neurotic I am about that; I feel so much more relaxed now and I hate to admit it.
Hmm!
You know, it's like the problem sort of solved itself without me paying attention to it, and when you mentioned it it made me realize that it's vanished!
Well that's great but don't you think you should wait 'til the summer before a definitive declaration? Well, maybe. But living in the present...
I'm Sticking With You. Oh, I see. Yeah, that's one of the ones I like the end of
Well, they're a bit less dressed up. What I was really excited by was that it has Crane Wife 1, 2, and 3 in order, just Colin and his guitar, and the guitar is so good you don't miss the rest of the band at all. But then, right at the end of Crane Wife 2 when you think you're just going to have to weep at hearing it all put together so beautifully - they cheat and just splice onto it an obviously different take of CW 3! This part sounds pretty much like the album version minus bass and drums. I have no idea who is responsible for doing this! 1 and 2 are wonderful, but it is a letdown at the end. But also there are a couple of extra songs I don't remember coming across anywhere else - The Cap Street Girls, which I don't think is anything very special, and The Day I Knew You Wouldn't Ever Come Back, which I think IS very special, and really, kind of a different sound for them. Speaking of Colin and his guitar, I think on the Live album, California One/Youth and Beauty Brigade is just gorgeous..
No. This one definitely passed me by. Any idea where I could get to hear them? Is that the same 'The Day I knew...' as on the extras? I'll have to give the live CM another spin. You know me and live albums. It must be the same "The Day I Knew," because I had a sense it was paired with Perfect Crime I on ITunes or something. As for where to get the demos, look on...(I have to spell) D-E-M-O-N-O-I-D.
So what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one!
No probs.
Was that a particular favorite this year? What else did you like?
Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by jioffe on Jan 8, 2009 21:25:35 GMT
Oi! What happened to my teal? I don't mean to take away your crayons. How are you doing it? I'm cutting and pasting in the reply box and it loses its colors.Add a {/quote} (using square instead of the curly brackets) immediately after the first closing square bracket in the header. This keeps the header and, more relevantly, the colours and the text then becomes the main body of the reply post. You'll also need to remove the final {/quote}. No cutting or pasting required. If that makes sense!Calcium deficiency? Hope not! He likes cellophane too. Does that contain calcium? Doubt it. Maybe it's just the crunch he likes. I haven't even seen a creepy crawly since about September, and if there's a fly or something, I just make sure he notices it and he's on the job. He'll knock it out of the air and come up chewing. What a good boy! It really is kind of pathetic how neurotic I am about that; I feel so much more relaxed now and I hate to admit it. Hmm! You know, it's like the problem sort of solved itself without me paying attention to it, and when you mentioned it it made me realize that it's vanished! Well that's great but don't you think you should wait 'til the summer before a definitive declaration? Well, maybe. But living in the present...You know me. Always the cautious realist! I'm Sticking With You. Oh, I see. Yeah, that's one of the ones I like the end of It's a pretty verbatim cover:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q43vl8Fpjv4
Well, they're a bit less dressed up. What I was really excited by was that it has Crane Wife 1, 2, and 3 in order, just Colin and his guitar, and the guitar is so good you don't miss the rest of the band at all. But then, right at the end of Crane Wife 2 when you think you're just going to have to weep at hearing it all put together so beautifully - they cheat and just splice onto it an obviously different take of CW 3! This part sounds pretty much like the album version minus bass and drums. I have no idea who is responsible for doing this! 1 and 2 are wonderful, but it is a letdown at the end. But also there are a couple of extra songs I don't remember coming across anywhere else - The Cap Street Girls, which I don't think is anything very special, and The Day I Knew You Wouldn't Ever Come Back, which I think IS very special, and really, kind of a different sound for them. Speaking of Colin and his guitar, I think on the Live album, California One/Youth and Beauty Brigade is just gorgeous.. No. This one definitely passed me by. Any idea where I could get to hear them? Is that the same 'The Day I knew...' as on the extras? I'll have to give the live CM another spin. You know me and live albums. It must be the same "The Day I Knew," because I had a sense it was paired with Perfect Crime I on ITunes or something. As for where to get the demos, look on...(I have to spell) D-E-M-O-N-O-I-D.Many thanks but there's a problem. I'll need to register to get it but it won't let me register unless I get invited by a current member, so... I guess, after this, "We both go down, together"! ;DSo what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one! No probs. Was that a particular favorite this year? What else did you like?Yes. The more durable ones include The Killers' Day and Age, Oasis' Dig Out Your Soul and Elbow's The Seldom Seen Kid. Eliza Carthy's Dreams Of Breathing Underwater, is probably the most truly creative and inventive album I've heard for several years. We had tickets to see her just down the road from here, in Ashford, and she called in sick! Most recently, I've been enjoying David Byrne and Brian Eno's Everything That Happens Will Happen Today. Also recently been rediscovering John Mayall's Bluesyblokies' Barewires, Family's Music In A Doll's House and Colosseum's Daughter Of Time from The Good Old Days. How'bout yours?
Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 8, 2009 22:10:18 GMT
Oi! What happened to my teal? I don't mean to take away your crayons. How are you doing it? I'm cutting and pasting in the reply box and it loses its colors.Add a {/quote} (using square instead of the curly brackets) immediately after the first closing square bracket in the header. This keeps the header and, more relevantly, the colours and the text then becomes the main body of the reply post. You'll also need to remove the final {/quote}. No cutting or pasting required. If that makes sense!the quote thing is already there as you describe, so at first I left it as it was and just added mine. That had it all in the box, so then I took both the quotes off and this is it. Is that okay?Well that's great but don't you think you should wait 'til the summer before a definitive declaration? Well, maybe. But living in the present...You know me. Always the cautious realist! and the neo-fatalist. You remember our old conversation about nostalgia? I guess we get to have nostalgia now.I'm Sticking With You. Oh, I see. Yeah, that's one of the ones I like the end of It's a pretty verbatim cover:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q43vl8Fpjv4
yes...thank you. Well, they're a bit less dressed up. What I was really excited by was that it has Crane Wife 1, 2, and 3 in order, just Colin and his guitar, and the guitar is so good you don't miss the rest of the band at all. But then, right at the end of Crane Wife 2 when you think you're just going to have to weep at hearing it all put together so beautifully - they cheat and just splice onto it an obviously different take of CW 3! This part sounds pretty much like the album version minus bass and drums. I have no idea who is responsible for doing this! 1 and 2 are wonderful, but it is a letdown at the end. But also there are a couple of extra songs I don't remember coming across anywhere else - The Cap Street Girls, which I don't think is anything very special, and The Day I Knew You Wouldn't Ever Come Back, which I think IS very special, and really, kind of a different sound for them. Speaking of Colin and his guitar, I think on the Live album, California One/Youth and Beauty Brigade is just gorgeous.. No. This one definitely passed me by. Any idea where I could get to hear them? Is that the same 'The Day I knew...' as on the extras? I'll have to give the live CM another spin. You know me and live albums. It must be the same "The Day I Knew," because I had a sense it was paired with Perfect Crime I on ITunes or something. As for where to get the demos, look on...(I have to spell) D-E-M-O-N-O-I-D.Many thanks but there's a problem. I'll need to register to get it but it won't let me register unless I get invited by a current member, so... I guess, after this, "We both go down, together"! ;Dcheck your private messages!So what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one! No probs. Was that a particular favorite this year? What else did you like?Yes. The more durable ones include The Killers' Day and Age, Oasis' Dig Out Your Soul and Elbow's The Seldom Seen Kid. Eliza Carthy's Dreams Of Breathing Underwater, is probably the most truly creative and inventive album I've heard for several years. We had tickets to see her just down the road from here, in Ashford, and she called in sick! Most recently, I've been enjoying David Byrne and Brian Eno's Everything That Happens Will Happen Today. Also recently been rediscovering John Mayall's Bluesyblokies' Barewires, Family's Music In A Doll's House and Colosseum's Daughter Of Time from The Good Old Days. How'bout yours?
I have to think about it. A lot of wierd things like musicals, early rock and roll, Nina Simone, my old timey stuff. Not that much new stuff. I really like Fleet Foxes, who I understand took off like crazy over there. I do like what I've heard of Elbow, but I didn't follow up on it. I heard a lot of things I liked and didn't really follow up on - the new Steve Winwood. I'm sure I'll think of more. I wouldn't have expected David Byrne to make your list, but I haven't heard that at all! The Eliza Carthy sounds intriguing.
Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by jioffe on Jan 9, 2009 21:01:42 GMT
Oi! What happened to my teal? I don't mean to take away your crayons. How are you doing it? I'm cutting and pasting in the reply box and it loses its colors.Add a {/quote} (using square instead of the curly brackets) immediately after the first closing square bracket in the header. This keeps the header and, more relevantly, the colours and the text then becomes the main body of the reply post. You'll also need to remove the final {/quote}. No cutting or pasting required. If that makes sense!the quote thing is already there as you describe, so at first I left it as it was and just added mine. That had it all in the box, so then I took both the quotes off and this is it. Is that okay?I had to remove it because it was playing havoc with my formatting but, if you look on your post, you'll see a couple of lines of code at the very top, which suggests it's not quite right but, apart from this, the rest is fine, so leave it unless you feel like playing about with the code and 'preview'.Well that's great but don't you think you should wait 'til the summer before a definitive declaration? Well, maybe. But living in the present...You know me. Always the cautious realist! and the neo-fatalist. You remember our old conversation about nostalgia? I guess we get to have nostalgia now.OK! I'll pay the ransom! ;DI'm Sticking With You. Oh, I see. Yeah, that's one of the ones I like the end of It's a pretty verbatim cover:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q43vl8Fpjv4
yes...thank you. Well, they're a bit less dressed up. What I was really excited by was that it has Crane Wife 1, 2, and 3 in order, just Colin and his guitar, and the guitar is so good you don't miss the rest of the band at all. But then, right at the end of Crane Wife 2 when you think you're just going to have to weep at hearing it all put together so beautifully - they cheat and just splice onto it an obviously different take of CW 3! This part sounds pretty much like the album version minus bass and drums. I have no idea who is responsible for doing this! 1 and 2 are wonderful, but it is a letdown at the end. But also there are a couple of extra songs I don't remember coming across anywhere else - The Cap Street Girls, which I don't think is anything very special, and The Day I Knew You Wouldn't Ever Come Back, which I think IS very special, and really, kind of a different sound for them. Speaking of Colin and his guitar, I think on the Live album, California One/Youth and Beauty Brigade is just gorgeous.. No. This one definitely passed me by. Any idea where I could get to hear them? Is that the same 'The Day I knew...' as on the extras? I'll have to give the live CM another spin. You know me and live albums. It must be the same "The Day I Knew," because I had a sense it was paired with Perfect Crime I on ITunes or something. As for where to get the demos, look on...(I have to spell) D-E-M-O-N-O-I-D.Many thanks but there's a problem. I'll need to register to get it but it won't let me register unless I get invited by a current member, so... I guess, after this, "We both go down, together"! ;Dcheck your private messages!Muchas gracias! Mucho appreciado! I now have it and am and listening as I write!So what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one! No probs. Was that a particular favorite this year? What else did you like?Yes. The more durable ones include The Killers' Day and Age, Oasis' Dig Out Your Soul and Elbow's The Seldom Seen Kid. Eliza Carthy's Dreams Of Breathing Underwater, is probably the most truly creative and inventive album I've heard for several years. We had tickets to see her just down the road from here, in Ashford, and she called in sick! Most recently, I've been enjoying David Byrne and Brian Eno's Everything That Happens Will Happen Today. Also recently been rediscovering John Mayall's Bluesyblokies' Barewires, Family's Music In A Doll's House and Colosseum's Daughter Of Time from The Good Old Days. How'bout yours?
I have to think about it. A lot of wierd things like musicals, early rock and roll, Nina Simone, my old timey stuff. Not that much new stuff. I really like Fleet Foxes, who I understand took off like crazy over there. This is one of those albums that fall into the 'I don't get what all the fuss is about' category! It did nothing for me. Like The Arctic Monkeys and Arcade Fire's much more lauded second album, when the first was, imo, so much better! I do like what I've heard of Elbow, but I didn't follow up on it. This is rated as their best album - I haven't heard any earlier stuff - and has won loads of awards here, including the Mercury Music Prize. Well worth a listen. I heard a lot of things I liked and didn't really follow up on - the new Steve Winwood. I'm sure I'll think of more. I wouldn't have expected David Byrne to make your list, but I haven't heard that at all! The Eliza Carthy sounds intriguing.The Byrne and Eno is just a nice collection of pleasant songs with enough, and not too much, quirkiness to sustain interest not, apparently, like their earlier collaborations, which I haven't heard. I wasn't a big Talking Heads fan, it's true but I do like this and, on a couple of tracks, Byrne's voice sounds remarkably similar to a middle-period (i.e. electric) Roy Harper, especially on this:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a96jhIWZHAs
Re: Eliza Carthy, try this. Not the very best, but pretty high up the pecking order and each track is so different...
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Post by rebecca on Jan 10, 2009 1:47:50 GMT
the quote thing is already there as you describe, so at first I left it as it was and just added mine. That had it all in the box, so then I took both the quotes off and this is it. Is that okay?I had to remove it because it was playing havoc with my formatting but, if you look on your post, you'll see a couple of lines of code at the very top, which suggests it's not quite right but, apart from this, the rest is fine, so leave it unless you feel like playing about with the code and 'preview'.I'm still confused, but I'll just do what I did before if it makes it look right. Which it did, so I guess I'm not getting something.You know me. Always the cautious realist! and the neo-fatalist. You remember our old conversation about nostalgia? I guess we get to have nostalgia now.OK! I'll pay the ransom! ;DI don't think I quite get it, but you know what? I'm happy to have a chance not to get your jokes again.Many thanks but there's a problem. I'll need to register to get it but it won't let me register unless I get invited by a current member, so... I guess, after this, "We both go down, together"! ;Dcheck your private messages!Muchas gracias! Mucho appreciado! I now have it and am and listening as I write!Great! And your thoughts? So what did you think of Narrow Stairs? I must confess I don't have an opinion. But give me a few days and I'll form one! No probs. Was that a particular favorite this year? What else did you like?Yes. The more durable ones include The Killers' Day and Age, Oasis' Dig Out Your Soul and Elbow's The Seldom Seen Kid. Eliza Carthy's Dreams Of Breathing Underwater, is probably the most truly creative and inventive album I've heard for several years. We had tickets to see her just down the road from here, in Ashford, and she called in sick! Most recently, I've been enjoying David Byrne and Brian Eno's Everything That Happens Will Happen Today. Also recently been rediscovering John Mayall's Bluesyblokies' Barewires, Family's Music In A Doll's House and Colosseum's Daughter Of Time from The Good Old Days. How'bout yours?
I have to think about it. A lot of wierd things like musicals, early rock and roll, Nina Simone, my old timey stuff. Not that much new stuff. I really like Fleet Foxes, who I understand took off like crazy over there. This is one of those albums that fall into the 'I don't get what all the fuss is about' category! It did nothing for me. Like The Arctic Monkeys and Arcade Fire's much more lauded second album, when the first was, imo, so much better! I do like what I've heard of Elbow, but I didn't follow up on it. This is rated as their best album - I haven't heard any earlier stuff - and has won loads of awards here, including the Mercury Music Prize. Well worth a listen. I heard a lot of things I liked and didn't really follow up on - the new Steve Winwood. I'm sure I'll think of more. I wouldn't have expected David Byrne to make your list, but I haven't heard that at all! The Eliza Carthy sounds intriguing.Fleet Foxes struck me just the right way. I heard the right song on the radio, on the right day, in the right mood, and it was magic. But their major influences are Dylan, Neil Young and the Beach Boys, so I guess it's not surprising it's not your thing!The Byrne and Eno is just a nice collection of pleasant songs with enough, and not too much, quirkiness to sustain interest not, apparently, like their earlier collaborations, which I haven't heard. I wasn't a big Talking Heads fan, it's true but I do like this and, on a couple of tracks, Byrne's voice sounds remarkably similar to a middle-period (i.e. electric) Roy Harper, especially on this:
Re: Eliza Carthy, try this. Not the very best, but pretty high up the pecking order and each track is so different...
Yeah, I like both those. Hers is, as you say, very unique and I don't think I've ever seen anybody sing and play violin before. As I recall, Byrne/Eno's first album was quite avant guarde, but it's been awhile. Unlistenable was what I thought then, but now it might be a different story. I am quite passionate about Talking Heads of the "Speaking in Tongues" era, and "Stop Making Sense" is still my favorite concert movie of all time. No drama, no backstage nonsense, just the music and the band having a fantastic time. Plus seeing it about 20 times at the midnight theater with my post-college posse made for good memories! I'm not usually a big fan of music that uses rhythm as its base, but this is a real exception.
But I forgot completely to write about my major discovery this year (I knew there was something I was forgetting before) - the Be Good Tanyas, discovered by me after their breakup, quite typical. Another one of those string bands I love! This is my favorite song.
Singing is Frazey Ford. She doesn't do all the lead singing, and she's got one of those love-it or hate-it voices. She apparently comes by her articulation difficulties honestly, but although the words are very good, I think, the mood is really all you need. I spent a lot of time listening to them this year. BUT, I also thought of something else you might want to check into. Remember that Matthew Sweet and Susannah Hoffs were doing an album? I can't remember what the name of it is. It's all covers, some of them very interesting. You might like "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" - she sings it and he does his trademark Matthew Sweet harmonic wash over it.
Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by jioffe on Jan 10, 2009 19:25:52 GMT
Becca, Many thanks for The Decemberists stuff and for doing that for me. It's interesting to hear some of those songs stripped down. I raised a couple of points here earlier which, I'd hoped, might have been taken up by others in the general population of this board. That they weren't may not have anything whatsoever to do with it, but I can't help wondering if the fact that they were tucked away on this thread, which seems to be the board's equivalent of quarantine, did. Either way, I think now would be as good a time as any to return the thread, and its associated bandwidth, to public ownership. Hope that's OK with you. Catch you elsewhere Cheers, Jioffe.
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