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Post by chea on Feb 4, 2014 13:02:04 GMT
Yes, they are. It is always strange to see Ian with a normal jacket ...
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 4, 2014 14:26:32 GMT
Here's where the album cover design was conceived... Aleph Studio www.facebook.com/alephstudiouk
Also designs for Marillion, Steve Wilson and Porcupine Tree
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Post by tullist on Feb 4, 2014 16:07:34 GMT
Promo image from the official site - all looking a bit serious ok. that's more like it. appears IA has had a word with the boy as concerns his aspect. IA will let you know when its one of the friendly guy pics. Not too many of those.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 4, 2014 16:33:00 GMT
The background to the Erraticus sleeve looks a bit Icelandic, what with the steam or smoke from what looks like venting volcanoes behind the figure (IA ?).
Don't suppose it's Bognor Regis.
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Post by tullist on Feb 4, 2014 18:07:15 GMT
The background to the Erraticus sleeve looks a bit Icelandic, what with the steam or smoke from what looks like venting volcanoes behind the figure (IA ?). Don't suppose it's Bognor Regis. according to John Lennon, "Bognor Regis is a tartan that covers Yorkshire"
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Post by futureshock on Feb 4, 2014 19:30:24 GMT
Volcanoes or towns burning down. Or tarsands train derailments exploding, got lots of those going on. I saw on a Facebook Tull update that for sure that's the album cover. Good choice. How will it tie into the songs? This, for the St. Cleve Chronicle, became the question.
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 4, 2014 20:21:29 GMT
I think it will be less about kitties and cafes and zoos and vaction photos...not that Rupi's Dance was bad...but Ian's a bit more Big Picture Epic these days.
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Post by billw on Feb 4, 2014 20:45:32 GMT
Hi. I truly miss the days of big albums with their covers. this one looks so cool. question: Ryan O'Donnell is not in any of these group pics. Shouls we assume that he is not singing on any of the songs?
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Post by billw on Feb 4, 2014 20:47:45 GMT
Ian looks so cool here, imho. The dark suit and open collar reminds of the look he had for the "Walk Into Light" cover pic. Anyone?
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Post by billw on Feb 4, 2014 21:00:06 GMT
Sorry to get so excited and keep writing. haha. BUT, I hope this album is DARK and GRITTY with some deep stuff, especially music-wise. Hope the album cover is conveying that, just like "Walk Into Light" was some 30 years ago. What a welcomed thing that would be (to these ears). Howver, since Ian has the same exact guys and he's been doing more or less folky/light/easy listening stuff with them, maybe I shouldnt expect a departure.
What would've really been cool (wishful thinking?) is if Ian made a radical departure from TAAB2, and made a dark, gritty album, possibly with different musicians. and took more time after TAAB2. But, anyway........it's all good.
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 4, 2014 21:36:15 GMT
Of course for me has always been Jethro Tull or what is the same...Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson Jethro Tull = musical ideas of Ian Anderson To my mind so little, if indeed anything in this world truly matters, but I do believe honor is one of the few that do. And one of several endearing traits of IA is being a man of his word, to my experience anyway. And he did say no Martin Barre, no Jethro Tull. And I believe that to be fitting respect to the man who stood on his left between 1969 and 2011. As to band names, very much a rock and roll thing, and IA's case I believe a wider net is cast. I mean what did Art Blakey call his band? Or Duke Ellington? Or Miles Davis. In a sense Tull was ALWAYS Ian Anderson, with maybe a little too much credit given to the seventies band. For instance the notion that Barrie Barlow was inarguably the greatest drummer in Tulls history is laughable to me. (I am not at all certain that they best may not have been that obscure guy who slipped thru here a few years ago, Mark Mondesir, or Dave Mattacks for that matter. And Doane is certainly in Barrie's ballpark, along with Jon Noyce, likely the most undervalued of all Tull performers. Certainly Barrie's drum solo's, if taken out of the context of a Tull show, could have easily been at a Kiss show. Especially the later ones where like, stuff exploded or whatever. Gimmick $h1t. Stuff Art Blakey, Max Roach did not need. Of course half the people in Tull's audience, the rock and roll yahoos, you had to keep up with the Jones I suppose. I know another fantastically over rated drummer, Carl Palmer, pulled similar $h1t. Tullist, I think Jim's answer is correct, so I will not add anything more, my intention is not to open another discussion over the name of the band, everyone is free to have their own opinion, just expressing my surprise, this is the same band of 2012 Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson!, said that Ian is free to call the band as he wants. By the way, this Anderson's quote " No Martin, No Tull", can you tell me where you get it? a link or something else, I do not distrust your word, (I've read or heard before) I just like to have that interview in my Tull archives. It is important to know the context and the time in which this phrase is said I'm sure Mick Abrahams would not be very happy to hear this... Well just add that apparently has confirmed that this is the new album cover www.facebook.com/officialjethrotull
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Post by futureshock on Feb 4, 2014 21:39:36 GMT
Well, as long as the lyrics weren't cowritten by James Taylor, there's reason to hope it has some depth to it. LOL. Sorry, that was a music system purge.
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Post by tullist on Feb 4, 2014 21:56:10 GMT
To my mind so little, if indeed anything in this world truly matters, but I do believe honor is one of the few that do. And one of several endearing traits of IA is being a man of his word, to my experience anyway. And he did say no Martin Barre, no Jethro Tull. And I believe that to be fitting respect to the man who stood on his left between 1969 and 2011. As to band names, very much a rock and roll thing, and IA's case I believe a wider net is cast. I mean what did Art Blakey call his band? Or Duke Ellington? Or Miles Davis. In a sense Tull was ALWAYS Ian Anderson, with maybe a little too much credit given to the seventies band. For instance the notion that Barrie Barlow was inarguably the greatest drummer in Tulls history is laughable to me. (I am not at all certain that they best may not have been that obscure guy who slipped thru here a few years ago, Mark Mondesir, or Dave Mattacks for that matter. And Doane is certainly in Barrie's ballpark, along with Jon Noyce, likely the most undervalued of all Tull performers. Certainly Barrie's drum solo's, if taken out of the context of a Tull show, could have easily been at a Kiss show. Especially the later ones where like, stuff exploded or whatever. Gimmick $h1t. Stuff Art Blakey, Max Roach did not need. Of course half the people in Tull's audience, the rock and roll yahoos, you had to keep up with the Jones I suppose. I know another fantastically over rated drummer, Carl Palmer, pulled similar $h1t. Tullist, I think Jim's answer is correct, so I will not add anything more, my intention is not to open another discussion over the name of the band, everyone is free to have their own opinion, just expressing my surprise, this is the same band of 2012 Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson!, said that Ian is free to call the band as he wants. By the way, this Anderson's quote " No Martin, No Tull", can you tell me where you get it? a link or something else, I do not distrust your word, (I've read or heard before) I just like to have that interview in my Tull archives. It is important to know the context and the time in which this phrase is said I'm sure Mick Abrahams would not be very happy to hear this... Well just add that apparently has confirmed that this is the new album cover www.facebook.com/officialjethrotullBoy I dunno Remy, especially with the advancing years, my perception of time can get skewed. Likely said more than once, has the feel of something said roughly about 8 years ago which makes the likelihood to have been 99.9 per cent of having been read In A New Day. Very good likelihood that it is in one of those 2 interview books. As the day marches on,sometimes I can remember the context in which it was said...but not usually. May have been a question about what IA perceived as the remaining time frame for Tull, but I really don't remember.
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Post by tullist on Feb 4, 2014 21:58:49 GMT
Tullist, I think Jim's answer is correct, so I will not add anything more, my intention is not to open another discussion over the name of the band, everyone is free to have their own opinion, just expressing my surprise, this is the same band of 2012 Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson!, said that Ian is free to call the band as he wants. By the way, this Anderson's quote " No Martin, No Tull", can you tell me where you get it? a link or something else, I do not distrust your word, (I've read or heard before) I just like to have that interview in my Tull archives. It is important to know the context and the time in which this phrase is said I'm sure Mick Abrahams would not be very happy to hear this... Well just add that apparently has confirmed that this is the new album cover www.facebook.com/officialjethrotullBoy I dunno Remy, especially with the advancing years, my perception of time can get skewed. Likely said more than once, has the feel of something said roughly about 8 years ago which makes the likelihood to have been 99.9 per cent of having been read In A New Day. Very good likelihood that it is in one of those 2 interview books. As the day marches on,sometimes I can remember the context in which it was said...but not usually. May have been a question about what IA perceived as the remaining time frame for Tull, but I really don't remember. As to Mick Abrahams and his 8 month tenure ending 46 years ago, I am sure the comings and goings of Tull members are of little concern to him. But in some one of those other bits of Tull info in my head, I do recall Martin Barre to have said he still considers Mick Abrahams to be Jethro Tull's guitarist.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 4, 2014 22:09:00 GMT
Well, as long as the lyrics weren't cowritten by James Taylor, there's reason to hope it has some depth to it. LOL. Sorry, that was a music system purge. James Taylor wrote some lovely songs........ One of my all-time fav albums from about 1970 Mud Slide Slim..... Superb.. AND he still has that beautiful voice.. Lay off James Taylor........
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 4, 2014 22:45:07 GMT
Volcanoes or towns burning down. Or tarsands train derailments exploding, got lots of those going on. I love volcanoes and all the action Ian can pack into an hour long concept!
Bring on the Homo Erraticus crawling out of the depths of human evolutionary rock and roll!
For the time being all the concerts are billed as Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson
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Post by billw on Feb 4, 2014 22:57:25 GMT
Hi, JTull007. Read a lot of your older posts as Ian was touring all the different places. Great pics and stories!
What other bands or artists do you see on tour these days? Would love to see your stories/pics about them, also!
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 5, 2014 1:57:02 GMT
Hi, JTull007. Read a lot of your older posts as Ian was touring all the different places. Great pics and stories! What other bands or artists do you see on tour these days? Would love to see your stories/pics about them, also! Most of my concerts happened between the 70's and 90's generally in North Carolina. Tull 26 times including 2013 All my future gigs will probably be Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson unless Martin Barre comes here. I have seen Iron Maiden 3 times, Judas Priest 2 times, The Black Crowes about 4 times, The Who in '75, Led Zeppelin '75, Black Sabbath '82, GENESIS ('80, '83, '86), ELP in ('74, '76), Marshall Tucker Band 3 times, ZZ Topp 3 times, Charlie Daniels Band 4 times, Joe Walsh in '73, Black Oak Arkansas 3 times, Edgar Winter Group, Deep Purple, Ted Nugent, Fleetwood Mac, Stephen Stills, Frank Zappa - 'One Size Fits All' tour, Renaissance, BB King, Steppenwolf with John Kay, The Guess Who, Bob Seger, Todd Rundgren's Utopia, Billy Idol, Quiet Riot, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Outlaws, Nantucket, Glass Moon, Procol Harum, Saga, The Chieftains, Alice Cooper, Ben Harper and The Innocent Criminals, The Drive-By Truckers, Jason Isbell, R.E.O. Speedwagon 3 times, Boston, Foghat, Flo and Eddie (The Turtles), Joni Mitchell, Greg Allman, The Allman Brothers, Leon Russell, Billy Preston - The 5th Beatle , Nine Inch Nails '94, Marilyn Manson '94, The Eagles - Hotel California Tour , Journey, The J. Geils Band, Humble Pie, Styx, Peter Frampton, Tori Amos ('96, '98), Rick Derringer, Mountain, Mott the Hoople, Linda Ronstat, Yes - 2 times, Kansas - 3 times, Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Van Halen, Bad Company, Alex Harvey, Whitesnake, Queensryche, Queen '80, Wet Willie Band, Ozzy Osbourne, Blue Oyster Cult, RUSH - ('74, '79), KISS - 3 times, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Foreigner, Rod Stewart, and a few more I can't recall. Ooops! almost forgot Nazareth "Hair of the Dog" tour. Wow! Also Heart 2 times, The Electric Light Orchestra (ELO) 2 times, AC/DC w/ Bon Scott, Cheap Trick ...
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 5, 2014 2:51:24 GMT
Leon Russel is a jewel, ain't he ?
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Post by tullist on Feb 5, 2014 3:41:30 GMT
Leon Russel is a jewel, ain't he ? I did see him at the absolute, and brief, peak of his popularity in 73 at the Chicago Stadium, literally right in front of the stage, I think behind some quaaludes if memory serves, but no trouble remaining on our feet in those years. Good show. He has played my friends joint, Fitzgerald's, I under stand he is a bit full of himself. Wow man, you know Ringo and Mick Jagger. Where can i kiss your ass? Before I floor you. Likely I could never operate one of those clubs, because at some point I would be sure to go off on someone who has delusions of their importance. I have seen arrogance wear well on one performer only, and he was not really arrogant, he was real, and that is Miles Davis. Leon Russell, like so many from that period, is someone who's star has faded for me over the time. Include the Moody Blues, Shawn Phillips and Genesis in that camp. Of course a whole lot of rock and roll mf's I never liked in the first place. Hate to include Shawn Phillips on that list, what a gentleman, still like him alot, in the seventies I loved him.
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 5, 2014 4:40:45 GMT
I saw Leon twice in the past few years...he didn't seem pretentious...he seemed like the old blues guys who just keep playing regardless of advancing years...he comes out, slowly, cane toting, in a white man dashiki that looks like it may have a little evidence of breakfast or lunch drooling and does a pretty good set of originals:the Carney tunes that got him the 18 months of fame in 73/74 and a few other singer/songwriter worthies...and does a bunch of covers that are a legit history lesson....Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Dylan stuff that emphasizes how white country music was a small vitamin ingredient in the recipe that took black blues to radio rock. How pretentious can a guy be who is touring 200 seater clubs with a band of sideman that he probably found in a Tulsa IHOP ? Last time I saw him, fat old Greg Allman was a few seats over, appearing to have a good time. The white man dashiki IS pretty cool.
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Post by tullist on Feb 5, 2014 5:57:53 GMT
I saw Leon twice in the past few years...he didn't seem pretentious...he seemed like the old blues guys who just keep playing regardless of advancing years...he comes out, slowly, cane toting, in a white man dashiki that looks like it may have a little evidence of breakfast or lunch drooling and does a pretty good set of originals:the Carney tunes that got him the 18 months of fame in 73/74 and a few other singer/songwriter worthies...and does a bunch of covers that are a legit history lesson....Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Dylan stuff that emphasizes how white country music was a small vitamin ingredient in the recipe that took black blues to radio rock. How pretentious can a guy be who is touring 200 seater clubs with a band of sideman that he probably found in a Tulsa IHOP ? Last time I saw him, fat old Greg Allman was a few seats over, appearing to have a good time. The white man dashiki IS pretty cool. Again Bernie, as seen thru the eyes of that evenings employers, not as seen through that of the audience. Frankly I do not remember many of the particulars, as he is decades beyond having much of interest to me. Oh I could mark this or that song form my youth, Your Song was, along with Reasons For Waiting, our song for high school gf and life long friend, and Fitzgerald 1, Sheila. I used to damn sure do the do to Youngblood off Bangladesh, marvelous quaalude entertainment. His take on the charlatan Zimmerman's Hard Rain was very good, I can recall hearing Tightwire for the first time while truly geeked on potent lsd, that was good. But I guess a deeper immersion in the genuine music that inspired his likes in the following decades have reduced the need for what I perceive as a couple moves removed from the real thing have reduced his place in my musical vocabulary. But Fitzgerald's for all its own considerable legend, probably as famous as Leon by this point lol, is not a place that caters to any kind of rock star needs. Again, I cannot remember the particulars, and I believe he has played there a few to several times by now, but its sort of outside their realm, they deal more in the like of the Hackberry Ramblers. Dave Alvin would be the most consistent star in their firmament to my mind, a man truly without any special needs. He did use a similar shctick when I saw him, El Leon in 73 that is,its sort of an old chitlin circuit thing I think, I have seen Clifton Chenier use it too, let the band get cookin real nice and then stroll out there like the old gentleman of the south, or in his case, Tulsa I believe, puffin on some rich man cigar. Or in Clifton Cheniers case, be wheeled out there as by the time I was seeing him in the mid 80's he was wheelchair bound, with the zydeco crown on his head and I believe a diamond or something shiny in one of his front teeth. That guy was genuine legend $h1t. Leon's alright. If there were money to spend would I pay it to see him? Unquestionably not. Richard Thompson. Yes. Buddy Guy. Yes. Jack and Jorma w or without Hot Tuna yes. Leon Russell. no. Moody Blues. not now. not ever. Genesis. what will that be for the grand re convenement. 300 dollars? I would not pay 3 dollars. Or if it was Phil Collins, and he were to bust into a stirring rendition of In the Air Tonite, and I could severe his head and get away with it, would I do it. Probably. His head would chop nicely. And I have just the spike for it.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 5, 2014 9:34:28 GMT
i58.images obliterated by tinypic/64knm0.jpg[/IMG] So it's down to me to explain what's going on here The lone figure is that of Gerald,he is covering his face due to a piece of pie tin embedded in it due to an explosion in his kitchen - which is still smouldering. It transpires that Madge has developed a drink problem, she came back from the Dirty Duck totally paralytic and stuck a Fray Bentos pie in the microwave without taking it out the tin. Gerald tried to get her and the tin out the kitchen and failed. He said to her; "Sod it Madge you old drunk cow !!I'm leaving and I'm not coming back" "Where are you going Jeerad - I feel shick?" " I'm going to America where the only job I can get is that of a walk on part in a show with that Clutterbuck bloke who visited us last year" "and I need my pitchfork"
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 5, 2014 10:10:27 GMT
The background to the Erraticus sleeve looks a bit Icelandic, what with the steam or smoke from what looks like venting volcanoes behind the figure (IA ?). Don't suppose it's Bognor Regis. according to John Lennon, "Bognor Regis is a tartan that covers Yorkshire" One of the few times I've been in trouble with the police was being banned from Bognor Regis by the fuzz (supposedly King George V's final words on his deathbed were "bugger Bognor") for annoying the inhabitants of the place back in 1966 shortly after England won the World Cup. All we were doing was chanting "ENGLAND" while walking down what purported to be the main high street of the place at 2 in the morning. Well we had to, it would have been rude other wise. Never been back there since.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 5, 2014 13:04:49 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 5, 2014 16:26:45 GMT
The more I see, the more I like....again...nothing about kitties and crowded airports on this one....Ian's going BIG.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 5, 2014 18:54:56 GMT
This is the gent who mixed the album, a certain Mr Jakko M Jakszyk from King Crimson. Jakko M Jakszk - musician, producer and performer. i62.images obliterated by tinypic/mwtt2w.jpg[/IMG]
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 6, 2014 8:54:17 GMT
Boy I dunno Remy, especially with the advancing years, my perception of time can get skewed. Likely said more than once, has the feel of something said roughly about 8 years ago which makes the likelihood to have been 99.9 per cent of having been read In A New Day. Very good likelihood that it is in one of those 2 interview books. As the day marches on,sometimes I can remember the context in which it was said...but not usually. May have been a question about what IA perceived as the remaining time frame for Tull, but I really don't remember. As to Mick Abrahams and his 8 month tenure ending 46 years ago, I am sure the comings and goings of Tull members are of little concern to him. But in some one of those other bits of Tull info in my head, I do recall Martin Barre to have said he still considers Mick Abrahams to be Jethro Tull's guitarist. AND: It seems a bit sad if the music is as good as ever even if the stage image deteriorates. Can you ever imagine lan Anderson, rather than Jethro Tull, going solo, just walking on stage with your guitar?
Ian Anderson: I can only imagine me doing it in the context of the group. And in that group there would at least have to be Martin - if he, for whatever reason, was no longer in the group then that would be the end of Jethro Tull. To use another guitarist after all this time would be like getting divorced and then marrying again the next day - no, Tull wouldn't carry on.AND #11, July 1987
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 6, 2014 10:35:51 GMT
" Very enigmatic especially the pose looking over the mountains. It has the same mysterious quality as the medieval warrior standing on a hill on Argus. Hope the contents are as brilliant as Argus. Footnote"It's me on the cover of Argus. We shot it in the South of France – I'm wearing Ken Russell's helmet and cloak from The Devils and, I'm sorry to say, in our rush to get back to London, we left Roman Polanski's sword from Macbeth in the layby. There's a school of thought that the cover was the inspiration for Darth Vader. I think it is indeed one of the greatest, least known albums." Bruce Atkins, Forest Lodge, Snowdonia www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2011/mar/23/argus-wishbone-ash
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 6, 2014 12:06:14 GMT
Wonder what the Prince Albert connection is? Is it Prince Albert of Sax Cobourg and Gotha - if so is it a Scottish connection ie Queen Victoria and Balmoral? i61.images obliterated by tinypic/2hy7vc7.jpg[/IMG] or is he keeping in with the fabulously wealthy Prince Albert of Monaco? i60.images obliterated by tinypic/2dulf1f.jpg[/IMG]
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