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Post by nonrabbit on May 5, 2014 11:49:13 GMT
My God Ian...?? Why on earth isn't Ryan singing this song all the way...  What does it sound like live? Remember too that this is a basic recorded youtube link. My gut feeling is that this is My God performed live -how often are we going to hear that in the coming years and the whole performance is very evocative and that might not necessarily be the case if Ryan sang it. |
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Post by bunkerfan on May 5, 2014 11:50:30 GMT
Well done ash. Those photographs are brilliant.  Even the one of you.  I will take my camera to The Sage but if the same "jobs worth woman" is there again I'll have no chance.  Perhaps she's the same one you had fun with at Oxford. I bet she's a traffic warden in her other job! |
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Post by JTull 007 on May 5, 2014 12:08:51 GMT
After watching the video of "My God" I was going OMG! Now I can say it again... OMG!
Thanks to Essan and Ash for being there on this incredible tour! LOVE IT
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Post by ash on May 5, 2014 13:23:44 GMT
Well done ash. Those photographs are brilliant. Even the one of you. I will take my camera to The Sage but if the same "jobs worth woman" is there again I'll have no chance. Perhaps she's the same one you had fun with at Oxford. I bet she's a traffic warden in her other job! Cheeky  . I've never been to another concert hall like it regards photos. I'm sure Ian has no problem with it as long as there is no flash. I get the feeling that if Ian spots your taking a photo of him he seems to pause for a moment, or is that just me?Even my wife has spotted that as well. Here's a few more Why is the devil behind Ian   IA concert May 4th 16 by Ashley.R.G, on Flickr I don't believe that hat is from Switzerland   IA concert May 4th 15 by Ashley.R.G, on Flickr You're never too old to....  IA concert May 4th 18 by Ashley.R.G, on Flickr |
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Post by maddogfagin on May 5, 2014 14:16:59 GMT
Thanks to everyone for the images so far. I know that sealion took some at Salisbury so expect to see them here in the near future when he gets them back from the chemist. On an aside to all this photographic work, who's noticed the spoof advert at the back of the programme for "The New Spearman 2000" ? It shows the top of the "spear" held by IA on the cover of the album complete with chrome nut, bolt and washer, gaffer tape and what looks like a hunting knife for the main upright prong. By the way, you can buy one now and get a child's size free, only $99.99 The perfect gift for every wandering man |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 14:23:50 GMT
Thanks to everyone for the images so far. I know that sealion took some at Salisbury so expect to see them here in the near future when he gets them back from the chemist. On an aside to all this photographic work, who's noticed the spoof advert at the back of the programme for "The New Spearman 2000" ? It shows the top of the "spear" held by IA on the cover of the album complete with chrome nut, bolt and washer, gaffer tape and what looks like a hunting knife for the main upright prong. By the way, you can buy one now and get a child's size free, only $99.99 The perfect gift for every wandering manThere's a pretty clear picture of it during the explanations of the album on DVD, the knife is clearly shown. Where Ian mentions something about the character being fierce looking at the same time being vulnerable. Like Ian himself, I might add. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 14:33:25 GMT
My God Ian...?? Why on earth isn't Ryan singing this song all the way... This may call for a little handbag diplomacy...  Why on earth isn't Ryan singing this song all the way... Hate to be negative, to be honest Ian Anderson's vocal performance on most of these youtube videos is almost making me cry. ("Gee, that's near pathetic" Everything is fine all around but this singing... Why don't he just use this new young singer guy all over the old material, while he's hanging around? )...people are losing it on the Steve Hoffman forums where they are very bothered by bad sound. Read more: forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/homo-erraticus-the-new-studio-album-from-jethro-tulls-ian-anderson-to-be-released-in-april-2014.335373/page-7 |
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Post by JTull 007 on May 5, 2014 15:16:15 GMT
Not to insult anyone's point of view but I've watched this video and played it LOUD over 8 speakers.
My ears are pleasantly enjoying the combination of Ryan and Ian together as a vocal team.
Maybe a few spots are weak depending on the sound in the room but overall very good indeed.
Now let's Burn some Witches (whiners) !  p.s. Get a real sound system and use it.
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Post by Essan on May 5, 2014 15:49:33 GMT
I tried my best to get a few photos but the New theatre have this jobs worth woman who goes around picking on any one with a phone or camera. Before the concert Debbie and I were turning off the sound on our phones and she started having a go about taking photos . Any way I did take some and just totally ignored her when she came over later on. Good pics! I had been tempted to take my camera but I decided that it might be too obvious and wasn't quite sure on what the rules were - probably as well I didn't take it. Plus if I had, and been allowed to use it, I'd have been watching the whole show though the camera lens ..... |
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Post by ash on May 5, 2014 16:09:29 GMT
I tried my best to get a few photos but the New theatre have this jobs worth woman who goes around picking on any one with a phone or camera. Before the concert Debbie and I were turning off the sound on our phones and she started having a go about taking photos . Any way I did take some and just totally ignored her when she came over later on. Good pics! I had been tempted to take my camera but I decided that it might be too obvious and wasn't quite sure on what the rules were - probably as well I didn't take it. Plus if I had, and been allowed to use it, I'd have been watching the whole show though the camera lens ..... Thanks. I don't do rules  . Not even sure if they can stop you taking photos, it's not on the ticket  . I know what you mean about seeing a concert through a camera but I try not to do that. I would have loved to do photography like this for a living but life went in a different direction for me |
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Post by maddogfagin on May 5, 2014 18:23:55 GMT
Ian Anderson MBE: Symphony Hall, Birmingham – 03/05/2014thisissoundcheck.co.uk/After 46 years (yes forty-six) of standing on one leg and playing the flute to adorning fans you’d think it was time hang up the cod piece. But no, the prog pioneer, blues, folk and rock legend – Jethro Tull’s front man – IAN ANDERSON MBE is far from finished just yet. Just a little on the history of what makes Ian Anderson a rock legend… Jethro Tull turned down a chance to play at the most famous festival the world has ever seen – 1969’s Woodstock. However, Tull did play at 1970’s Isle of Wight festival alongside the likes of Hendrix and The Who in front of a 600,000 strong crowd. That’s Legend. Ian and band pulled into Birmingham’s Symphony Hall as part of his UK, European and North American tour in support of the recently released new prog-folk-metal concept album Homo-Erraticus. The first half of the evening’s performance was dedicated to presenting Homo-Erraticas in full. It was clearly evident that the many loyal Tull fans were sympathetically or perhaps appreciably going through the motions of clapping as opposed to applauding as each number segued from one to another. Homo-Erraticus follows man’s progression through the eyes of Gerald Bostock, the fictitious schoolboy who wrote the poem for Tull’s 1973 concept album Thick as a Brick and subsequent follow up TAAB Pt2. Anderson starts the show off with the opening track ‘Doggerland’, set in the Neolithic era as England separates from mainland Europe. ‘Heavy Metals’ tells the story of Iron Age man, blacksmiths, ploughs, weaponry and tools. It is noticeable by the evenings second offering that Anderson’s vocal range isn’t what it used to be back in the day when he would have paraded the likes of Heavy Horses and Minstrel in the Gallery. Anderson shared vocals with Ryan O’Donnell (vocals, mime and general stage tomfoolery) – O’Donnell thankfully taking the pressure of the higher notes. The first set flowed very well as it took the audience through the eras. A giant screen projected animations and video footage which allowed the assembled to follow more easily, music with visual subtitles almost. ‘Turnpike Inn’ and ‘The Engineer’, the latter following Brunel’s tunnels, tracks and bridges, both stood out as crowd-pleasers of part 1. Part Two was billed as “The Best of Jethro Tull” and this is what Anderson’s fans; in the majority, had turned out for. A massive date clock was projected on the rear screen and the date rolled back to 1968, time for some ‘Living in the Past’. The screen flashed images of a long-haired Anderson as his aged counterpart synced his now strained vocals to his younger image – it worked well. One thing is for sure, Anderson hasn’t let his years get the better of his ability to be the world’s greatest rock flautist and his stage presence. The crowd had come to life. ‘With You There to Help Me’ was by far one of the highlights – well no, every Tull offering was an highlight – O’Donnell’s younger, more harmonious voice complimented Ian’s perfectly as it did on ‘Teacher’. ‘Sweet Dreams’ raised the tempo as the back screen flashed images from the Slipstream video; Anderson taking on the roles of Dracula and the Aqualung tramp. German born guitarist Florian Opahle powered his way with perfection through the riffs made famous by Birmingham’s own Martin Barre, sadly missed next to Anderson on lead guitar. (No he’s not dead, they’ve just parted ways). The Best of Jethro Tull set ran through ‘Too Old To Rock and Roll: Too Young To Die’, ‘Songs From the Wood’ and an amazing rendition of ‘Farm on The Freeway’ from the Grammy Award winning Crest of a Knave album. Perhaps the surprise of the evening came with an offering from the concept album A Passion Play, with Anderson remarking how seventies critics commented that he’d gone a bit too far this time. There were three offerings from the album Aqualung; ’My God’, ‘Aqualung’ itself and ‘Locomotive Breath’. All played to perfection and all received individual standing ovations from the near capacity crowd. Although there were two very different sets played by Anderson and crew, it was plain to see what the crowd were there for. The best of Jethro Tull lacked ‘Heavy Horses’, ‘Broadsword’, ‘Black Sunday’, ‘New Day’ etc… etc… The problem was that there was more than enough time, given the Symphony Hall’s usual curfew, to include at least another twenty minutes or so of Tull classics. Perhaps some acoustic ditties such as ‘One Brown Mouse’, ‘Moths’, ‘Jack-in-the-Green’, ‘Dun Ringill’, etc… etc…or at least a nice little medley. A pitiful one song encore, albeit ‘Locomotive Breath’ left the crowd wanting more, but then if they’d have played several encore songs the crowd would have still wanted another. All in all it was a mixed night with a blend of new material and old classics. Anderson proved he was – Too Young To Die.
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Post by craigz on May 5, 2014 18:47:22 GMT
<snip> Part Two was billed as “The Best of Jethro Tull” and this is what Anderson’s fans; in the majority, had turned out for. <snip> The problem was that there was more than enough time, given the Symphony Hall’s usual curfew, to include at least another twenty minutes or so of Tull classics. I think you average non-Tull fan turned out for the "Best Of". Real Anderson fans are there to hear something new, too. I was wondering about the length of the show. Without the addition of an opening act, the setlist seemed a bit skimpy to me. For those that have seen the show, would you agree with this? |
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Post by Equus on May 5, 2014 19:27:59 GMT
My God Ian...?? Why on earth isn't Ryan singing this song all the way... This may call for a little handbag diplomacy... Why on earth isn't Ryan singing this song all the way... Hate to be negative, to be honest Ian Anderson's vocal performance on most of these youtube videos is almost making me cry. ("Gee, that's near pathetic" Everything is fine all around but this singing... Why don't he just use this new young singer guy all over the old material, while he's hanging around? )...people are losing it on the Steve Hoffman forums where they are very bothered by bad sound. Read more: forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/homo-erraticus-the-new-studio-album-from-jethro-tulls-ian-anderson-to-be-released-in-april-2014.335373/page-7It's mind boggling... Why don't he just take a little step back? When I saw him in Copenhagen during the Thick As A Brick/ Thick As A Brick 2 tour, it worked wonderful! Ian started the show with singing... That was so bad!! Very bad!! But he only sang a few lines, and the Ryan took over... not as good as Ian used to be, but still much, much better... Then they came to Thick As A Brick 2... A that worked surprisingly good with Ian singing most of it... He actually sang that part of the show, pretty damn awesome! And I think that this was because these new tunes were created to fit his voice capabilities... Great show! But this is really bad! And Ryan is right beside him? Let Ryan sing those songs... maybe it's not that bad, when it comes to actually being there, but one thing is for sure... This is not the best advertising... and again. Let Ryan kick those songs to where they ought to be! What's it like to be a band with a lead singer that just don't know when it's time to leave the microphone alone? It must be downright discouraging... and they know that it's a problem, but they keep putting on a brave smile, 'cause... what can they do? |
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Post by Equus on May 5, 2014 19:33:03 GMT
My God Ian...?? Why on earth isn't Ryan singing this song all the way... What does it sound like live? Remember too that this is a basic recorded youtube link. My gut feeling is that this is My God performed live -how often are we going to hear that in the coming years and the whole performance is very evocative and that might not necessarily be the case if Ryan sang it. Well... maybe you're right... I hope they will come a trip to Denmark... I have never been disappointed when I have seen Ian live, but this video really sounds bad... |
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Post by ash on May 5, 2014 21:06:49 GMT
What does it sound like live? Remember too that this is a basic recorded youtube link. My gut feeling is that this is My God performed live -how often are we going to hear that in the coming years and the whole performance is very evocative and that might not necessarily be the case if Ryan sang it. Well... maybe you're right... I hope they will come a trip to Denmark... I have never been disappointed when I have seen Ian live, but this video really sounds bad... Odd but Ryan's vocals sound really bad in this video as well. it's nothing like either of them sounded at Oxford. But then mobile phones are state of the art for recording |
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Post by Equus on May 5, 2014 21:40:34 GMT
Well... maybe you're right... I hope they will come a trip to Denmark... I have never been disappointed when I have seen Ian live, but this video really sounds bad... Odd but Ryan's vocals sound really bad in this video as well. it's nothing like either of them sounded at Oxford. But then mobile phones are state of the art for recording Well, well... Mobile phones are not state of the art for recording, but it still reveals some serious problems with Ian's voice... I'm happy to hear that they sounded good in Oxford... |
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 5, 2014 22:06:03 GMT
Ok. Just off to bed with my ipod and my brilliant newish ( treated myself ) Bang and Olufsen earphones, to have a final listen of all of Homo Erraticus before I see it live. You Tube videos from mobiles are usually $h1te, remember listening to TAA2 snippets before the live shows and they cannot replicate the live theatre sound. Funnily enough I've spent the last few hours watching the Pro Shot TAAB2 tour, from Harpa Stadium,Iceland. It is brilliant. Anyway hope to report another enjoyable evening. Be thinking of you.....!! OneWhiteHomoDuck |
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Post by steelmonkey on May 5, 2014 22:56:01 GMT
With you in envious spirit...Enjoy, concentrate, report !
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Post by morthoron on May 6, 2014 1:52:07 GMT
I have quite a decent system (Onkyo and Polk Audio), thanks, and as Tootull inferred, the vocals sounded god awful on that. But I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I kicked the wife and daughter out of the house, and fed "My God" through my band gear (Mackie amps, preamps and mixer and Celestion PA speakers and monitors -- enough wattage to fill a 500 seat hall). I blared it, and there is no appreciable difference (unless I remove Ian's vocals from the mix altogether ). But not only were Ian's vocals decrepit, but Ryan's were rather effeminate for such a ballsy song. The music itself was quite good, if rather sedate, compared to more rousing live versions of the song I have seen and heard in the past. All in all, the worst version of that song I've ever heard, going back to the early 70s. Could have been an off night. I listen to more before passing further judgement. |
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Post by Essan on May 6, 2014 7:32:06 GMT
<snip> Part Two was billed as “The Best of Jethro Tull” and this is what Anderson’s fans; in the majority, had turned out for. <snip> The problem was that there was more than enough time, given the Symphony Hall’s usual curfew, to include at least another twenty minutes or so of Tull classics. I think you average non-Tull fan turned out for the "Best Of". Real Anderson fans are there to hear something new, too. I was wondering about the length of the show. Without the addition of an opening act, the setlist seemed a bit skimpy to me. For those that have seen the show, would you agree with this? I didn't keep an eye on the time, but the Oxford gig was scheduled to start at 7.30pm and I did notice it ended at 10.15pm - allowing for a 20 minute break that makes 2 hours 25 minutes, which is about normal. Performance may have been a bit shorter than that though. I think a couple of accoustic tracks could still have been fitted into the 'best of' set (say, Dun Ringill and Under Wraps, to bridge the chronological gap between SFTW and FOTF?), but I'm not grumbling. It was probably a longer concert than TAAB 1 & 2 where we didn't get an encore (both albums are under 1 hour). Personally I'd have liked the 'best of' as the first set, with HE as the 2nd set with an encore. But not being a 'real' Anderson fan, I was only there for HE ....  |
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Post by maddogfagin on May 6, 2014 9:48:49 GMT
I think you average non-Tull fan turned out for the "Best Of". Real Anderson fans are there to hear something new, too. I was wondering about the length of the show. Without the addition of an opening act, the setlist seemed a bit skimpy to me. For those that have seen the show, would you agree with this? I didn't keep an eye on the time, but the Oxford gig was scheduled to start at 7.30pm and I did notice it ended at 10.15pm - allowing for a 20 minute break that makes 2 hours 25 minutes, which is about normal. Performance may have been a bit shorter than that though. I think a couple of accoustic tracks could still have been fitted into the 'best of' set (say, Dun Ringill and Under Wraps, to bridge the chronological gap between SFTW and FOTF?), but I'm not grumbling. It was probably a longer concert than TAAB 1 & 2 where we didn't get an encore (both albums are under 1 hour). Personally I'd have liked the 'best of' as the first set, with HE as the 2nd set with an encore. But not being a 'real' Anderson fan, I was only there for HE .... At Salisbury it was a 60 minute first half and around 80 minutes for the second set and in addition to that a 20 minute pee break interval. |
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Post by JTull 007 on May 6, 2014 13:26:03 GMT
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 6, 2014 14:44:08 GMT
Great calculation Jim. That someone was me, I'm just leaving for Bristol. 400 or whatever it empty seats wont look to pretty at The Colston Hall. Hope there will be a late rush. So off I go on another trip....... report back as soon as.
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Post by morthoron on May 6, 2014 15:14:08 GMT
Won't be going this year. Rather odd that there are no dates in Michigan at all. None in Detroit, Ann Arbor, Lansing, Kalamazoo or Grand Rapids. That is the first time Anderson or Tull has not appeared here for a tour in my long recollection. Certainly not since before Aqualung. Even more odd is that I've never been to a Tull or Anderson show here that wasn't packed in Detroit. The Rubbing Elbows (State Theater), Orchestral Tull (Orchestra Hall) and TAAB2 (the Fox Theater) tours were sold out.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 6, 2014 15:57:29 GMT
Well, Detroit IS rock city...saw Tull at Cobo Hall in 1978 and the place was packed with vague threat of discontent on the outside from people without tickets. Fox Theater in Detroit in 1991 MUCH tamer.
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Post by morthoron on May 6, 2014 16:05:20 GMT
Well, Detroit IS rock city...saw Tull at Cobo Hall in 1978 and the place was packed with vague threat of discontent on the outside from people without tickets. Fox Theater in Detroit in 1991 MUCH tamer. I think that is because in 1991 we were all finally coming down from the drugs we were on in 1978. I was at both concerts, by the way. Ummm...at least that is what I have been told. |
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Post by steelmonkey on May 6, 2014 16:11:18 GMT
And the somehow extra good gig in Grand Rapids the night after Detroit Fox ?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 16:42:19 GMT
I have quite a decent system (Onkyo and Polk Audio), thanks, and as Tootull inferred, the vocals sounded god awful on that. But I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I kicked the wife and daughter out of the house, and fed "My God" through my band gear (Mackie amps, preamps and mixer and Celestion PA speakers and monitors -- enough wattage to fill a 500 seat hall). I blared it, and there is no appreciable difference (unless I remove Ian's vocals from the mix altogether ). But not only were Ian's vocals decrepit, but Ryan's were rather effeminate for such a ballsy song. The music itself was quite good, if rather sedate, compared to more rousing live versions of the song I have seen and heard in the past. All in all, the worst version of that song I've ever heard, going back to the early 70s. Could have been an off night. I listen to more before passing further judgement. Thank you We have a winner:>) (Mackie champs, preamps and mixer and Celestion PA speakers and monitors -- enough wattage to fill a 500 seat hall). No need to go to the trouble of any seriousness when Jim uses a smiley wink at the end of his post. signed the real 8 speaker freak.  A raft of penguins on a frozen sea.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 16:46:09 GMT
Won't be going this year. Rather odd that there are no dates in Michigan at all. None in Detroit, Ann Arbor, Lansing, Kalamazoo or Grand Rapids. That is the first time Anderson or Tull has not appeared here for a tour in my long recollection. Certainly not since before Aqualung. Even more odd is that I've never been to a Tull or Anderson show here that wasn't packed in Detroit. The Rubbing Elbows (State Theater), Orchestral Tull (Orchestra Hall) and TAAB2 (the Fox Theater) tours were sold out. Michigan & Ontario in 2015 possible ? |
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Post by morthoron on May 6, 2014 16:48:18 GMT
And the somehow extra good gig in Grand Rapids the night after Detroit Fox ? I had young kids back then. Only could get babysitters one night at a time. Did you see the '87 Tull/Fairport concert at Cobo? Still one of my favorites, although my ultimate was the first: Songs from the Wood -- 2 nights at the Masonic (a friend's older brother was head of the ushers). |
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Even the one of you. 
Perhaps she's the same one you had fun with at Oxford. I bet she's a traffic warden in her other job!
. Not even sure if they can stop you taking photos, it's not on the ticket 
. I know what you mean about seeing a concert through a camera but I try not to do that. I would have loved to do photography like this for a living but life went in a different direction for me 
. Anyone else? I know of one other 