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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 28, 2013 17:27:14 GMT
I always find it rather strange to see the same fans asking for autographs all the time. For me, once you have an autograph then in reality that's all you really need. I understand the artist's point of view that a high proportion of people getting autographs on albums, both vinyl and cd, will be putting them on ebay et al unless of course you're approached by the lads of Fairport demanding to autograph a concert programme.  |
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Post by bunkerfan on Aug 14, 2015 19:08:01 GMT
Can anyone tell me why it was decided to add 'Tundra', 'Automotive Engineering', 'General Crossing' and 'Astronomy' to the CD version of the album? I know apart from 'General Crossing' which was the first Jethro Tull song never to be released on vinyl, the others were on the 12 inch with 'Lap of Luxury'.
I just think the addition of these 4 tracks on the CD version don't add anything to the album, for me it spoils it. The track list on the vinyl was perfect.
Anyone any thoughts?
The best line up?
1. "Lap of Luxury" (Anderson) 3:35
2. "Under Wraps #1" (Anderson) 3:59
3. "European Legacy" (Anderson) 3:23
4. "Later, That Same Evening" 3:51
5. "Saboteur" 3:31
6. "Radio Free Moscow" 3:40
Side two
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1. "Nobody's Car" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 4:08
2. "Heat" 5:37
3. "Under Wraps #2" (Anderson) 2:14
4. "Paparazzi" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 3:47
5. "Apogee"
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 15, 2015 2:01:36 GMT
Can anyone tell me why it was decided to add 'Tundra', 'Automotive Engineering', 'General Crossing' and 'Astronomy' to the CD version of the album? I know apart from 'General Crossing' which was the first Jethro Tull song never to be released on vinyl, the others were on the 12 inch with 'Lap of Luxury'. I just think the addition of these 4 tracks on the CD version don't add anything to the album, for me it spoils it. The track list on the vinyl was perfect. Anyone any thoughts? The best line up? 1. "Lap of Luxury" (Anderson) 3:35
2. "Under Wraps #1" (Anderson) 3:59
3. "European Legacy" (Anderson) 3:23
4. "Later, That Same Evening" 3:51
5. "Saboteur" 3:31
6. "Radio Free Moscow" 3:40
Side two
No. Title Length
1. "Nobody's Car" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 4:08
2. "Heat" 5:37
3. "Under Wraps #2" (Anderson) 2:14
4. "Paparazzi" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 3:47
5. "Apogee"
Regardless of the additional tracks, some people hated the whole thing especially on MTV.
I remember watching "Lap of Luxury" video and thinking ... WTF ?
Still, it took some time and the music became very much appreciated the more I listened.
I really dig "Astronomy", "Automotive Engineering", and "Tundra" which became bonus tracks.
The 'Enhanced Cd' was nice with a video included for those who like "Lap of Luxury".
"General Crossing" was just plain odd and Ian must have realized it when it was first released.
Eventually "Crest of a Knave" brought back the fans that were bemused...
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Post by Equus on Aug 15, 2015 8:41:42 GMT
Can anyone tell me why it was decided to add 'Tundra', 'Automotive Engineering', 'General Crossing' and 'Astronomy' to the CD version of the album? I know apart from 'General Crossing' which was the first Jethro Tull song never to be released on vinyl, the others were on the 12 inch with 'Lap of Luxury'. I just think the addition of these 4 tracks on the CD version don't add anything to the album, for me it spoils it. The track list on the vinyl was perfect. Anyone any thoughts? The best line up? 1. "Lap of Luxury" (Anderson) 3:35
2. "Under Wraps #1" (Anderson) 3:59
3. "European Legacy" (Anderson) 3:23
4. "Later, That Same Evening" 3:51
5. "Saboteur" 3:31
6. "Radio Free Moscow" 3:40
Side two
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1. "Nobody's Car" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 4:08
2. "Heat" 5:37
3. "Under Wraps #2" (Anderson) 2:14
4. "Paparazzi" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 3:47
5. "Apogee" Good question... Maybe it's just because of the extended format of the CD... Maybe Ian would have included these songs on the original record, if there had been enough room for them... 'Tundra', 'Automotive Engineering', 'General Crossing' and 'Astronomy' are songs that fit well with the other songs of the record/CD Under Wraps... Ian have excluded songs that he liked, in the past, simply because these songs didn't "sound" like the other songs on the record... 'Tundra', 'Automotive Engineering', 'General Crossing' and 'Astronomy' have, from my point of view, approximately the same feel/sound to them... I remember that they were on a Maxi-single... Wasn't it called that? And personally I was taken aback by these songs... I just couldn't understand why they wasn't included on Under Wraps"? 'Tundra', 'Automotive Engineering', and 'Astronomy' are some of my favorite songs from these sessions... When they were included on the CD... not as bonus tracks, but as real Under Wraps numbers, I could only salute it... I know that a lot of fans don't like Under Wraps very much, but I think that if Ian had decided to give these songs another cloak that resembled some of the past instrumentations, if it would have sounded more like the "original" Jethro Tull... (...If you know what I mean... and no drum machine...) then the greatness of the songs would, maybe, perhaps, have been shining more clearly, and resiliently unmistakable, once and again, unfathomable, Jethro Tull... |
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 15, 2015 9:20:08 GMT
It seems it was a "marketing plan" in the UK by those people who were in charge at Chrysalis at the time of the album's issue.
The cassette issue was released a week or two before the vinyl album as it was seen by many that the humble cassette was the way forward. The cassette version contained the four tracks not included on the vinyl. The second part of the "marketing plan" seems to have been the release of the double pack 7" vinyl pack which was "Lap Of Luxury"/"Astronomy" on disc one with "Tundra"/"Automotive Engineering" on disc two. This was replaced during the pressing run with a single disc release of disc one due, in part it would seem, to poor promotion and small sales. The give-a-way to this plan is the inclusion of a silver sticker on the Lap Of Luxury double pack which includes the wording "includes three tracks not on L.P.".
Finally the vinyl album was released without the four missing tracks followed by the CD version which included the four tracks.
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Post by bunkerfan on Aug 16, 2015 9:19:29 GMT
It seems it was a "marketing plan" in the UK by those people who were in charge at Chrysalis at the time of the album's issue. The cassette issue was released a week or two before the vinyl album as it was seen by many that the humble cassette was the way forward. The cassette version contained the four tracks not included on the vinyl. The second part of the "marketing plan" seems to have been the release of the double pack 7" vinyl pack which was "Lap Of Luxury"/"Astronomy" on disc one with "Tundra"/"Automotive Engineering" on disc two. This was replaced during the pressing run with a single disc release of disc one due, in part it would seem, to poor promotion and small sales. The give-a-way to this plan is the inclusion of a silver sticker on the Lap Of Luxury double pack which includes the wording "includes three tracks not on L.P.". Finally the vinyl album was released without the four missing tracks followed by the CD version which included the four tracks. Thanks for the info Graham, as always maddog (THe Tull Oracle) comes up with the goods.  I think my problem with the CD version stems back to when the kids were little and anytime we were in the car together the only Tull LP I could play where everyone was happy was 'Under Wraps' because of the modern electric sound which was accepted by my teenage children. I of course transferred my vinyl to cassette so I could play it in the car and to be honest it was played the thing to death because we all loved it. I bought the CD later and found myself skipping those 4 tracks I mentioned because I didn't think they fitted in that's all.  |
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 16, 2015 9:28:51 GMT
It seems it was a "marketing plan" in the UK by those people who were in charge at Chrysalis at the time of the album's issue. The cassette issue was released a week or two before the vinyl album as it was seen by many that the humble cassette was the way forward. The cassette version contained the four tracks not included on the vinyl. The second part of the "marketing plan" seems to have been the release of the double pack 7" vinyl pack which was "Lap Of Luxury"/"Astronomy" on disc one with "Tundra"/"Automotive Engineering" on disc two. This was replaced during the pressing run with a single disc release of disc one due, in part it would seem, to poor promotion and small sales. The give-a-way to this plan is the inclusion of a silver sticker on the Lap Of Luxury double pack which includes the wording "includes three tracks not on L.P.". Finally the vinyl album was released without the four missing tracks followed by the CD version which included the four tracks. In addition to the stuff above, if anybody's on ebay and wants a copy of the double pack, make sure it's got the silver sticker on the front top right hand corner - those without this all important sticker are more than likely the single disc release. And . . . . whilst on the subject of ebay, there's a counterfeit copy of "Sunshine Day" up for grabs with no mention it's a fake. Three things to look out for - the genuine item was spelt as Jethro Toe (ALL fakes are spelt Jethro Tull), a large US style centre hole (MGM singles at the time the single was released had either a push out centre or just a small centre spindle hole) and they'll be no anti slip ridges pressed on the vinyl at the side of the label. The counterfeit copies are somewhat collectable in their own right but if anyone bids for one it's probably advisable not to pay more that £30 (or its equivalent in $, Yen, Euros etc). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 15:22:06 GMT
It seems it was a "marketing plan" in the UK by those people who were in charge at Chrysalis at the time of the album's issue. The cassette issue was released a week or two before the vinyl album as it was seen by many that the humble cassette was the way forward. The cassette version contained the four tracks not included on the vinyl. The second part of the "marketing plan" seems to have been the release of the double pack 7" vinyl pack which was "Lap Of Luxury"/"Astronomy" on disc one with "Tundra"/"Automotive Engineering" on disc two. This was replaced during the pressing run with a single disc release of disc one due, in part it would seem, to poor promotion and small sales. The give-a-way to this plan is the inclusion of a silver sticker on the Lap Of Luxury double pack which includes the wording "includes three tracks not on L.P.". Finally the vinyl album was released without the four missing tracks followed by the CD version which included the four tracks. Thanks for the info Graham, as always maddog (THe Tull Oracle) comes up with the goods. I think my problem with the CD version stems back to when the kids were little and anytime we were in the car together the only Tull LP I could play where everyone was happy was 'Under Wraps' because of the modern electric sound which was accepted by my teenage children. I of course transferred my vinyl to cassette so I could play it in the car and to be honest it was played the thing to death because we all loved it. I bought the CD later and found myself skipping those 4 tracks I mentioned because I didn't think they fitted in that's all. I have the same view as you about Under Wraps. Taped vinyl to cassette for the car was the norm for me. On CD the first West German CD sounds best to me. The remastered CD has loud bass for disco nights...  I've always liked the Under Wraps LP. I usually play Ian Anderson's Walk Into Light after Under Wraps. 1. "Lap of Luxury" (Anderson) 3:35 2. "Under Wraps #1" (Anderson) 3:59 3. "European Legacy" (Anderson) 3:23 4. "Later, That Same Evening" 3:51 5. "Saboteur" 3:31 6. "Radio Free Moscow" 3:40 Side two 1. "Nobody's Car" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 4:08 2. "Heat" 5:37 3. "Under Wraps #2" (Anderson) 2:14 4. "Paparazzi" (Anderson, Vettese, Barre) 3:47 5. "Apogee" 5:28 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Wraps_%28Jethro_Tull_album%29 |
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Post by Equus on Aug 16, 2015 15:39:20 GMT
It seems it was a "marketing plan" in the UK by those people who were in charge at Chrysalis at the time of the album's issue. The cassette issue was released a week or two before the vinyl album as it was seen by many that the humble cassette was the way forward. The cassette version contained the four tracks not included on the vinyl. The second part of the "marketing plan" seems to have been the release of the double pack 7" vinyl pack which was "Lap Of Luxury"/"Astronomy" on disc one with "Tundra"/"Automotive Engineering" on disc two. This was replaced during the pressing run with a single disc release of disc one due, in part it would seem, to poor promotion and small sales. The give-a-way to this plan is the inclusion of a silver sticker on the Lap Of Luxury double pack which includes the wording "includes three tracks not on L.P.". Finally the vinyl album was released without the four missing tracks followed by the CD version which included the four tracks. Yes! Thank you for the information Graham! As always, great stuff!  |
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Post by bunkerfan on Aug 16, 2015 17:15:33 GMT
If you've got 1 hour 42 minutes & 57 seconds to spare watch the 'Under Wraps' concert from The Capitol Theatre Passaic NJ. Enjoy. Jethro Tull - Full Concert Recorded Live: 10/28/1984 - Capitol Theatre (Passaic, NJ) Setlist: 0:00:00 - Under Wraps #1 0:02:18 - Locomotive Breath (instrumental) / Hunting Girl 0:08:30 - Stage Banter 0:09:09 - Under Wraps #1 0:13:55 - Later, That Same Evening 0:18:08 - Nobody's Car 0:23:20 - Fly By Night 0:27:39 - Thick As A Brick 0:36:17 - Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of A New Day 0:38:22 - Clasp 0:42:28 - Living In The Past 0:46:03 - Serenade To A Cuckoo 0:50:22 - Banter 0:52:32 - Fat Man 0:58:49 - Instrumental 1:07:04 - Black Sunday 1:13:26 - Songs From The Wood 1:20:00 - Aqualung 1:27:28 - Locomotive Breath 1:34:22 - Encore Break 1:35:52 - Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll, Too Young To Die |
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Post by steelmonkey on Aug 18, 2015 16:42:36 GMT
God hates me.....I wnated Homo Erraticus and Under Wtraps in the car for weekend camping trip....so for HE I grabbed the DVD by mistake and for some reason, my Under Wraps refused to play 'European Legacy', the best song on the damn thing. Oh well, Nobodys Car, Heat and General Crossing sounded good. Heat is a very well put together song.
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 18, 2015 19:17:42 GMT
God hates me..... I wanted Homo Erraticus and Under Wraps in the car for weekend camping trip....so for HE I grabbed the DVD by mistake and for some reason, my Under Wraps refused to play 'European Legacy', the best song on the damn thing. Oh well, Nobodys Car, Heat and General Crossing sounded good. Heat is a very well put together song.  Lord Please Help Bernie with a safe and wonderful Camping Trip |
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Aug 18, 2015 21:54:56 GMT
Regarding the issue of extra tracks on the CD (and bear in mind I was barely adolescent at the time of UW's release), but I seem to recall that extra tracks on CDs were a fairly frequent marketing strategy by record labels to encourage people to invest in the infant technology — just one of several ways people would argue the 'superiority' of CD over vinyl or cassette (although that's an argument for another thread, of course!). Crest Of A Knave, let's not forget, also did this with Dogs In The Midwinter and The Waking Edge as extra tracks on CD — and I'm not talking about sticking live tracks on the end, or demo versions etc — these songs were sessioned at the same time as the others and were every bit a contender for inclusion on the final track listing.
I know I'm talking to you all as avid collectors of all things Tull, across multiple formats, but if we consider the more casual record buyer in 1984, the decision to purchase LP/cassette/CD was absolute, with most prospective consumers unlikely to buy a brand new album on more than one format at the time.
Remember, a CD in 1984 cost somewhere around £12 - £15 pounds, brand new — no bargains, no mid-price ranges, just shiny, futuristic tech at shiny, futuristic prices!
So, to invert the cliché, you took yer choice and paid yer money. Extra tracks were a definite incentive. You'd never hear anyone bemoaning the way the 'extra' tracks unbalanced the running order of the 'original' album — that's a retrospective conversation, one that's only arisen since the age of bonus tracks added to CDs... and UW was in at the punch of this phenomenon. It was ALL the original album — it just depended on which version you owned.
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 19, 2015 10:06:56 GMT
Regarding the issue of extra tracks on the CD (and bear in mind I was barely adolescent at the time of UW's release), but I seem to recall that extra tracks on CDs were a fairly frequent marketing strategy by record labels to encourage people to invest in the infant technology — just one of several ways people would argue the 'superiority' of CD over vinyl or cassette (although that's an argument for another thread, of course!). Crest Of A Knave, let's not forget, also did this with Dogs In The Midwinter and The Waking Edge as extra tracks on CD — and I'm not talking about sticking live tracks on the end, or demo versions etc — these songs were sessioned at the same time as the others and were every bit a contender for inclusion on the final track listing.
I know I'm talking to you all as avid collectors of all things Tull, across multiple formats, but if we consider the more casual record buyer in 1984, the decision to purchase LP/cassette/CD was absolute, with most prospective consumers unlikely to buy a brand new album on more than one format at the time.
Remember, a CD in 1984 cost somewhere around £12 - £15 pounds, brand new — no bargains, no mid-price ranges, just shiny, futuristic tech at shiny, futuristic prices!
So, to invert the cliché, you took yer choice and paid yer money. Extra tracks were a definite incentive. You'd never hear anyone bemoaning the way the 'extra' tracks unbalanced the running order of the 'original' album — that's a retrospective conversation, one that's only arisen since the age of bonus tracks added to CDs... and UW was in at the punch of this phenomenon. It was ALL the original album — it just depended on which version you owned.
Chrysalis seemed to have been one of the companies that championed the cassette for a time - Broadsword was originally issued on cassette with a padded box which lasted just a few short weeks before being sold in a normal plastic box. They probably learnt their lesson as they never rolled out the minidisc format except for a couple of releases which was strange as it is a far better format, sound quality wise, than the cassette. But then as the formats got smaller you needed 20/20 vision to read the sleeve notes and with the minidisc it was more than likely you'd lose the darn thing behind a sofa cushion and never find it again. |
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Aug 19, 2015 12:24:19 GMT
Haha! I used to love MiniDisc, but mainly as a more durable and better-sounding version of cassettes, ie making compilation discs, not buying bespoke albums on the format. I still have all my MD paraphernalia somewhere, but I'm unlikely to revive it.
I never knew about the padded Broadsword packaging, I'd be fascinated to see what that looked like. Although I did meet Iain McCaig at Games Day '86, when I knew him better as a fantasy artist, as well as the Broadsword cover. I rather condescendingly told him to 'keep up the good work' (I was fifteen at the time, what a little turd!) — although he did go on to design Darth Maul for Star Wars, so maybe he took my callow words to heart, eh?!
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Post by bunkerfan on Aug 19, 2015 19:00:12 GMT
Regarding the issue of extra tracks on the CD (and bear in mind I was barely adolescent at the time of UW's release), but I seem to recall that extra tracks on CDs were a fairly frequent marketing strategy by record labels to encourage people to invest in the infant technology — just one of several ways people would argue the 'superiority' of CD over vinyl or cassette (although that's an argument for another thread, of course!). Crest Of A Knave, let's not forget, also did this with Dogs In The Midwinter and The Waking Edge as extra tracks on CD — and I'm not talking about sticking live tracks on the end, or demo versions etc — these songs were sessioned at the same time as the others and were every bit a contender for inclusion on the final track listing.
I know I'm talking to you all as avid collectors of all things Tull, across multiple formats, but if we consider the more casual record buyer in 1984, the decision to purchase LP/cassette/CD was absolute, with most prospective consumers unlikely to buy a brand new album on more than one format at the time.
Remember, a CD in 1984 cost somewhere around £12 - £15 pounds, brand new — no bargains, no mid-price ranges, just shiny, futuristic tech at shiny, futuristic prices!
So, to invert the cliché, you took yer choice and paid yer money. Extra tracks were a definite incentive. You'd never hear anyone bemoaning the way the 'extra' tracks unbalanced the running order of the 'original' album — that's a retrospective conversation, one that's only arisen since the age of bonus tracks added to CDs... and UW was in at the punch of this phenomenon. It was ALL the original album — it just depended on which version you owned.
Ah yes, extra tracks are common additions to CD's but how many were slotted into the list of songs as happened on 'Under Wraps? They're usually added at the end which I would have preferred in this case. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 19:34:01 GMT
Regarding the issue of extra tracks on the CD (and bear in mind I was barely adolescent at the time of UW's release), but I seem to recall that extra tracks on CDs were a fairly frequent marketing strategy by record labels to encourage people to invest in the infant technology — just one of several ways people would argue the 'superiority' of CD over vinyl or cassette (although that's an argument for another thread, of course!). Crest Of A Knave, let's not forget, also did this with Dogs In The Midwinter and The Waking Edge as extra tracks on CD — and I'm not talking about sticking live tracks on the end, or demo versions etc — these songs were sessioned at the same time as the others and were every bit a contender for inclusion on the final track listing.
I know I'm talking to you all as avid collectors of all things Tull, across multiple formats, but if we consider the more casual record buyer in 1984, the decision to purchase LP/cassette/CD was absolute, with most prospective consumers unlikely to buy a brand new album on more than one format at the time.
Remember, a CD in 1984 cost somewhere around £12 - £15 pounds, brand new — no bargains, no mid-price ranges, just shiny, futuristic tech at shiny, futuristic prices!
So, to invert the cliché, you took yer choice and paid yer money. Extra tracks were a definite incentive. You'd never hear anyone bemoaning the way the 'extra' tracks unbalanced the running order of the 'original' album — that's a retrospective conversation, one that's only arisen since the age of bonus tracks added to CDs... and UW was in at the punch of this phenomenon. It was ALL the original album — it just depended on which version you owned.
Ah yes, extra tracks are common additions to CD's but how many were slotted into the list of songs as happened on 'Under Wraps? They're usually added at the end which I would have preferred in this case. They're usually added at the end which I would have preferred in this case. AGREE! Again.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 19:40:58 GMT
Hello loony, Loonie a Canadian one-dollar coin, introduced in 1987. Do the Under Wraps math kid. too much fun, too many times. |
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Post by futureshock on Aug 20, 2015 2:26:02 GMT
Hello loony, Loonie a Canadian one-dollar coin, introduced in 1987. Do the Under Wraps math kid. too much fun, too many times. Canadian money is actually real money. We design it to look funny so people don't think it's real, that way they don't build up a great hunger to take it out of the country as a valuable item, and we Canadians stay super-rich! Well well well, that made sense when I said it but there's no evidence to support such an idea. Quite the opposite, and we have a fascist regressive dolt as PM who's a puppet of the most obsolete and change-resistent market sectors. However, Canada's economy is crashing, but with a crashing value for the Loonie, the American tourists will come here in big numbers with their really boring and institutional-looking money to make us super-rich! That's about 3% of us Canadians, working in gift stores in Niagara Falls and Banff. Gives me the willies. |
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Post by futureshock on Aug 20, 2015 2:29:17 GMT
Ah yes, extra tracks are common additions to CD's but how many were slotted into the list of songs as happened on 'Under Wraps? They're usually added at the end which I would have preferred in this case. They're usually added at the end which I would have preferred in this case. AGREE! Again. I just find it amazing that anyone came up with the name "SchubertMachiavelli". That's quite a combination of two galaxies that would typically not cross the street at the same intersection at the same time. How many people read "The Prince" while listening to some Schubert quartet or series of songs? Lots? OK, I'll F-off, now that the investigation is over. |
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 20, 2015 8:06:40 GMT
Hello loony, Loonie a Canadian one-dollar coin, introduced in 1987. Do the Under Wraps math kid. too much fun, too many times. Nothing beats a good old British groat  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groat_(coin) |
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Post by steelmonkey on Aug 20, 2015 22:10:41 GMT
Hit me with your rhythm stick
I love to be a loon-atic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:55:56 GMT
Most I've paid for a single CD of Tull is this West German Under Wraps CD that was $30 plus when first released: ...Astronomy... astronomy, astronomy... Astronomy... astronomy, astronomy... Astronomy... astronomy, astronomy..... ASTRONOMY!! I won't mind if all of Under Wraps is played, no HATE here. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:58:57 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 21, 2015 15:03:26 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 21, 2015 15:10:27 GMT
www.upthedownstair.net/Show #106: Completely Under Wraps (Part 1)February 12th, 2007  "It’s been a while since I’ve posted a Tull show. The last one was the band’s performance here in Madison in November of 2004 (Part I & Part II). Prior to that, it was almost 20 years to the day that they last set foot in our fair town for a concert at the then Dane County Coliseum on 2 November 1984 which was also bassist Dave Pegg’s birthday." www.upthedownstair.net/2007/02/show-106-completely-under-wraps-part-1.html
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Post by Equus on Aug 21, 2015 19:03:21 GMT
...Astronomy... astronomy, astronomy... Astronomy... astronomy, astronomy... Astronomy... astronomy, astronomy..... ASTRONOMY!! I won't mind if all of Under Wraps is played, no HATE here.  |
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Post by JTull 007 on Aug 21, 2015 19:17:56 GMT
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Sept 9, 2015 15:50:28 GMT
They're usually added at the end which I would have preferred in this case. AGREE! Again. I just find it amazing that anyone came up with the name "SchubertMachiavelli". That's quite a combination of two galaxies that would typically not cross the street at the same intersection at the same time. How many people read "The Prince" while listening to some Schubert quartet or series of songs? Lots? OK, I'll F-off, now that the investigation is over. What can I say, ladies and gentlemen, I'm a complicated fella… |
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Post by Equus on Sept 9, 2015 16:14:41 GMT
I just find it amazing that anyone came up with the name "SchubertMachiavelli". That's quite a combination of two galaxies that would typically not cross the street at the same intersection at the same time. How many people read "The Prince" while listening to some Schubert quartet or series of songs? Lots? OK, I'll F-off, now that the investigation is over. What can I say, ladies and gentlemen, I'm a complicated fella… How many people read "The Prince" while listening to some Schubert quartet or series of songs? Eh... Marilyn Manson? |
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