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Post by TullSkull on Jul 25, 2008 14:05:04 GMT
Here is why I ask this. NOTE: Link contains set list spoilers Posted on www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/08b.htm"A UK tour by Martin Barre 'solo' is expected some time in 2008 – Tull tours listed below could be with Florian Opahle rather than Martin." <US and Germany Dates> ^^ was first post, then they added > "Note: unconfirmed, and the possibility of an overlap with Tull dates is only a possibility. Sept-October seems more likely." So is Tull, Tull without Martin??? Don't see how it is Tull without Martin myself.. So vote and post your thoughts > rant if you must, I'll re-frame from a rant, had a good one already... LOL
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Post by silkenmist on Jul 25, 2008 16:03:38 GMT
Here is why I ask this. NOTE: Link contains set list spoilers Posted on www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/08b.htm"A UK tour by Martin Barre 'solo' is expected some time in 2008 – Tull tours listed below could be with Florian Opahle rather than Martin." <US and Germany Dates> ^^ was first post, then they added > "Note: unconfirmed, and the possibility of an overlap with Tull dates is only a possibility. Sept-October seems more likely." So is Tull, Tull without Martin??? Don't see how it is Tull without Martin myself.. So vote and post your thoughts > rant if you must, I'll re-frame from a rant, had a good one already... LOL Hi TullSkull: I am with you...Tull would be known as the Ian Anderson Band if there was no Martin. Martin is by far the most talented guitar player in this Century. I cannot imagine Tull without him. Silken...
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Post by skatingaway on Jul 25, 2008 16:47:47 GMT
well, I guess it could be tull with out martin technically. Cause Ian calls the shots, but it'd be a heartless tull. is it tull if mick plays instead? technically I guess so. but who the hell is this floren ophlinkmyer guy? so what if he played in Ians rubbing butts band? Sorry for the sarcasim, it'll be a huge let down if Martin is not at the greek Aug 17th
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 26, 2008 3:18:29 GMT
Oh man....fingers crossed and lottery victory prayers postponed while i pray for MB on USA Tull tour. I also hope Rock on the Road survives the trip across the Pond!
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Post by tullistray on Jul 26, 2008 15:52:55 GMT
I feel it is fair to echo Ian himself in saying without Martin Barre there is no Jethro Tull. Odd that it has actually occured but never mind. Won't say the Ian Anderson band is not without merit, but it needs Martin to be called Tull. And John Evan, Barrie Barlow, Clive, Glenn or Dave P would not hurt. But I am happy w their replacements, Martin, not replacable.
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Post by TM on Jul 27, 2008 1:38:30 GMT
Heck, I'd say that Martin is more "Tull" than Ian these days if you know what I mean.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 27, 2008 2:20:44 GMT
Jethro Tull...by any standard: fans, Ian etc...has meant Ian and Martin and whoever else they have at hand...since Crest ( tours for Divinities and orchestra Tull and rubbing butts ..that made my day, Silke) Ian has been careful to call it IA solo or IA plays Tull w/orchestra except for a few runs here and there ( sounds like the Romanians got a bunch) of gigs that were planned and billed as Tull before scheduling or Martin's perogative to call in sick. If Martin retires alltogether, Jethro Tull are history...in the meantime, I must admit that I expect Ian to be clear whenever possible in announcing MB less 'Tull' gigs...I'll still go, as i did and enjoyed Rubbing Butts etc...
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Post by nadine on Jul 27, 2008 3:28:44 GMT
hmmm thats a tricky one martin is very very talented but there have been alot of other very talented people that have left the band and it still lives on because ian is the front man and i think that as long as hes there tull will still be tull. but it would suck if martin left
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Post by admin on Jul 30, 2008 10:31:57 GMT
Hmm, I'm kind of on the fence for this one. I can understand that at this stage in his life and career Martin might want to take the occasional break from Ian's relentless touring schedule so as long as it's advertised clearly as a non Martin show then the odd gig with Florian standing in is ok by me. Although I can appreciate it would be a massive disappointment for Tull fans in that town.
But if Martin decides he wants to retire from touring altogether and Ian wants to carry on I'd like to think he'd think it was time to lay Jethro Tull to rest and continue as a solo artist.
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Post by harrowman on Aug 2, 2008 22:40:51 GMT
Agree entirely with you Col I would happily pay to see the IA band but an MBless Tull no thank you
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 3, 2008 9:33:19 GMT
bit unfair to announce this (if likely) over half way through and after tickets bought.
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Post by kaibailey on Nov 1, 2009 8:30:36 GMT
Martin Barre is completely amazing. I remember hearing about certain recent dates, like the ones mentioned in this thread, where Martin was substituted by someone else. If I went to a show and found that Martin wasn't there, it'd be a bit of a downer, honestly. I would still listen to Tull without Barre, and probably go to their shows, but I wouldn't consider it Tull, even if they tried to call themselves Tull. I wouldn't mind attending some Martin solo shows either
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 1, 2009 8:38:56 GMT
Martin Barre is completely amazing. I remember hearing about certain recent dates, like the ones mentioned in this thread, where Martin was substituted by someone else. If I went to a show and found that Martin wasn't there, it'd be a bit of a downer, honestly. I would still listen to Tull without Barre, and probably go to their shows, but I wouldn't consider it Tull, even if they tried to call themselves Tull. I wouldn't mind attending some Martin solo shows either Hallo kaibailey and a warm welcome to the forum. The recent UK shows were billed as Ian Anderson solo ones and Florian Opahle is an exceptional guitarist and "his own man". I reckon everybody will agree that, without MB, it's not Tull but have a look at the youtube videos of Florian on this site and you'll see just how good he is. Wouldn't mind seeing MB solo - next year perhaps???
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 1, 2009 8:46:32 GMT
Martin Barre is completely amazing. I remember hearing about certain recent dates, like the ones mentioned in this thread, where Martin was substituted by someone else. If I went to a show and found that Martin wasn't there, it'd be a bit of a downer, honestly. I would still listen to Tull without Barre, and probably go to their shows, but I wouldn't consider it Tull, even if they tried to call themselves Tull. I wouldn't mind attending some Martin solo shows either Hallo kaibailey and a warm welcome to the forum. The recent UK shows were billed as Ian Anderson solo ones and Florian Opahle is an exceptional guitarist and "his own man". I reckon everybody will agree that, without MB, it's not Tull but have a look at the youtube videos of Florian on this site and you'll see just how good he is. Wouldn't mind seeing MB solo - next year perhaps??? Hi kaibailey and welcome to the Board ;D I wouldn't mind seeing a MB solo either
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Post by kaibailey on Nov 4, 2009 22:48:49 GMT
Thank you very much, everyone Yes, I was just going to point out that two of the members in the recent solo tours (keyboardist, bassist, cant make out the drummer) are both from Tull. So it seems that so long as the guitarist isn't Barre, Anderson's not going to call it Tull. Which is great, because it seems to me that the greatest force leading Tull's music is the partnership between Anderson and Barre.
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Post by derekpith on Dec 9, 2009 14:25:02 GMT
Without Martin, It just becomes Ian Anderson 's band which is fine. Ian said that without Martin there is no Jethro Tull. I saw Tull in October 09, and Florian who is an extremely talented guitarist in his own right. But in no means is Martin Barre and I think he knows that as does Ian. It was a treat to hear Martin and Ian play they had such chemistry which I don not think will every be replaced, by anybody, especially after 40 years of doing it together.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 13:39:37 GMT
I'll go with, If Martin is not there it is The Ian Anderson Band
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Post by conundrum on Apr 11, 2010 8:25:22 GMT
I voted Tull will be Tull as long as Ian is there. Because Mick Abrahams was there before Martin. I could see Martin calling it a day and Ian bringing in someone new. Doubt it will happen. By the way, I am a great fan of Martin and always want him in Tull.
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Post by spenny on Apr 11, 2010 9:56:41 GMT
I am with conundrum all the way on this one.
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Post by tullist on Apr 11, 2010 19:15:36 GMT
Happily I do not believe this is something that will ever need to be considered as long as Ian and Martin are in good health. I realize at 62 it is possible for there to be abrupt changes or even death, but if I was told today that Tull with Ian and Martin were still happening twenty years, yes twenty years from now I would not be terribly surprised. A little surprised yes. We have already seen that there is a guy in young Florian who can make us happy when Martin is having a lie down. And of course there is a guy who has been in the band in Maart who could do a real damn fine job as a standin, cannot bring myself to say replacement. Plus like Martin, a freakin ace guy.
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Post by tullist on Apr 11, 2010 19:19:06 GMT
O, did not realize that poll would be popping up afterwards. If only by way of acknowledging Martin's decades upon decades of loyal service, that development would result in the Ian Anderson band.
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Post by donl on Apr 13, 2010 22:05:03 GMT
its not tull without martin
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Post by mikeyj on Nov 6, 2011 19:57:00 GMT
Tull without Martin UNTHINKABLE
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Post by hawkmoth on Nov 7, 2011 1:35:05 GMT
Looks like its a done deal unfortunately ,Martin Barre Pat Omay tour not advertised on Tulls website now,was on WS few weeks back. To Be Sad is a Mad Way To |Be but hey if this is it im Fecking Sad for sure.
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Post by stevep on Nov 7, 2011 6:36:24 GMT
I think Martin's concert dates have just been removed as they are past now. No "living in the past" for the JT website it seems.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 7, 2011 8:45:25 GMT
Looks like its a done deal unfortunately ,Martin Barre Pat Omay tour not advertised on Tulls website now,was on WS few weeks back. To Be Sad is a Mad Way To |Be but hey if this is it im Fecking Sad for sure. We wait and see if there are any more. The advertising seemed a bit half hearted in many ways.
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Post by hipflaskandy on Nov 7, 2011 14:29:31 GMT
I'm fully in the 'it's not Tull without Martin' camp.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 7, 2011 17:28:43 GMT
I'm fully in the 'it's not Tull without Martin' camp. And I am of the opinion that Martin without Ian is not the guitarist he is with Tull. As the youtubes of him with Pat O'May show, he doesn't have the same "spark" as he does with Tull and IA - it's almost as if they need each other to "feed off", similar to Lennon & McCartney or Simon & Garfunkel for example. Martin's bloody good at what he does but he needs the inspiration of IA's songs and stage presence to let rip and take it all to another level of playing.
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Post by hipflaskandy on Nov 7, 2011 18:40:24 GMT
I'm fully in the 'it's not Tull without Martin' camp. And I am of the opinion that Martin without Ian is not the guitarist he is with Tull. As the youtubes of him with Pat O'May show, he doesn't have the same "spark" as he does with Tull and IA - it's almost as if they need each other to "feed off", similar to Lennon & McCartney or Simon & Garfunkel for example. Martin's bloody good at what he does but he needs the inspiration of IA's songs and stage presence to let rip and take it all to another level of playing. Yeah - I'll subscribe to that, too. I think that observation's spot on. Course, if Martin ever wanted another another songwriter/arranger to work with, I can't help but feel his input/output would fit the bill, perfectly, in a band I know!
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Post by zendad on Nov 17, 2011 0:09:44 GMT
I would much prefer if Martin is playing with Tull. Ian is a musical genius and I'm sure he knows what he's doing but something just doesn't seem right. But bands fall out, it just seems strange that it has taken 43 years for Ian and Martin to fall out, if indeed that is the case. I have a ticket for the Birmingham gig, and I'll go as Ian is always worth watching. I see the tour is advertised as Ian Anderson 'Thick As A Brick Tour' 2012 on the Tull official website now, so that kind of makes this argument redundant, it isn't a Jethro Tull tour, it's an Ian Anderson solo tour, so no Martin But it does the leave the door ajar for Martin for the next Jethro Tull tour (if there ever is one)
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