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Post by adospencer on Jun 13, 2021 15:31:45 GMT
From "Play" onwards , I used to countdown to each new Tull release. Usually the English music papers had an interview or at least a release date to focus on. It was very quiet in the press, since punk Tull were hardly mentioned. I remember by coincidence I was on a weeks summer break from work. On a whim and against my better judgement, I bought a "Sounds" magazine. A few pages in was a full page ad,with binoculars and the words "Stormwatch is the new album from Jethro Tull". I couldnt get to the store quickly enough, the one and only time a new album sneaked past me. What a week that was!
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 19, 2021 18:07:12 GMT
One of Tull's greatest albums as far as I'm concerned. That it didnt sell as well and got bad reviews boggles my mind. Firstly, I think it suffered from poor marketing by the record company. Secondly, rock radio abandoned Tull around this time (HH and B.O. were still being played on WMMR and WYSP in Philly) and then when Stormwatch came out it was completely ignored. Thirdly, the album had a bit of a message to it and at the time, message music was not being accepted. We were between the late 60's and the mid 80's. The concept of Stormwatch was either ten years too late or five years too early. I can't speak for Europe, but I believe this to be the case in the states.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 19, 2021 19:35:16 GMT
Under Wraps came out of nowhere to me. No warning, no rock press, no ads, no clue and there it was, at Tower records. I had just met a friend for an afternoon's worth of food, drink and walkabout when we dropped into the record store and I saw new Tull. I think he forgave me for buying it, saying good bye and dashing home.
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Post by adospencer on Jun 20, 2021 3:17:19 GMT
Under Wraps was a strange one, in that the UK tour began a week or so before the album release, so it was the first and only time that I had no idea what the new songs were going to be like. As such the album a few days later was a disappointment, the live shows the week before were fantastic (real drums and Ian in great voice at that stage of the tour). The album with its clinical electronic sound seemed second best. Sorry this is a Stormwatch thread!
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 24, 2021 12:35:19 GMT
Whats the criticism against the album? Well I think anyone who is not a Tull fan would find the album dark and depressing not realising the quality of the song writing. Certainly the people I worked with at the time of the album’s release were, in the main part, anti the album. Being the only Tullie in a drawing office full of Simple Minds and Ultravox fans was not my idea of heaven. There is also the view held by some Tull fans that as this was the album before the big split, and as John’s death had happened at the same time, that this was all IA’s fault and that he should be the scapegoat for what occurred. It’s a view that, with reservations, I don’t hold. OK so he messed up with the photocopied letters to the band announcing the “sackings”, but the idea that somehow he didn’t fully deal with the aspects of John’s death is fanciful. IA would have been dumb struck at his passing in the same way as everyone else connected with the band - it was IA who attended the funeral and stood quietly at the back of the cemetery while the committal was taking place. No “Hello” style press release or photo shoot which lesser “celebrities” would have signed up for. IA’s been criticised for his “up front” bass playing on the tracks of the album where he deputised for the ailing John G. Doesn’t wash with me. Had John played on all the tracks of the album I don’t think that there would have been much difference in the final mix. It’s certainly not an album to listen to on a hot sunny day, sunbathing in your back garden with plenty of alcoholic beverages around, for that you’d want Songs From The Wood or Crest Of A Knave. But for cold wintry evenings, sitting in front of a log fire with the wind howling outside, it would be ideal. I always saw the album as music for people who understood an acquired taste, in the way there is a big difference between, say, Jack Daniels and Laphroaig; where a very small population of the rock community was going to give Stormwatch a fair shake. Laphroaig being the nectar of the gods to me, and more like Lavoris to most drinkers. Hell, the album has even shown to be an acquired taste for many early Tull fans, who took years to get around to liking it, in the way it takes certain people a long time to digest the idea of something different.
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Post by bunkerfan on Jun 24, 2021 18:41:27 GMT
Well I think anyone who is not a Tull fan would find the album dark and depressing not realising the quality of the song writing. Certainly the people I worked with at the time of the album’s release were, in the main part, anti the album. Being the only Tullie in a drawing office full of Simple Minds and Ultravox fans was not my idea of heaven. There is also the view held by some Tull fans that as this was the album before the big split, and as John’s death had happened at the same time, that this was all IA’s fault and that he should be the scapegoat for what occurred. It’s a view that, with reservations, I don’t hold. OK so he messed up with the photocopied letters to the band announcing the “sackings”, but the idea that somehow he didn’t fully deal with the aspects of John’s death is fanciful. IA would have been dumb struck at his passing in the same way as everyone else connected with the band - it was IA who attended the funeral and stood quietly at the back of the cemetery while the committal was taking place. No “Hello” style press release or photo shoot which lesser “celebrities” would have signed up for. IA’s been criticised for his “up front” bass playing on the tracks of the album where he deputised for the ailing John G. Doesn’t wash with me. Had John played on all the tracks of the album I don’t think that there would have been much difference in the final mix. It’s certainly not an album to listen to on a hot sunny day, sunbathing in your back garden with plenty of alcoholic beverages around, for that you’d want Songs From The Wood or Crest Of A Knave. But for cold wintry evenings, sitting in front of a log fire with the wind howling outside, it would be ideal. I always saw the album as music for people who understood an acquired taste, in the way there is a big difference between, say, Jack Daniels and Laphroaig; where a very small population of the rock community was going to give Stormwatch a fair shake. Laphroaig being the nectar of the gods to me, and more like Lavoris to most drinkers. Hell, the album has even shown to be an acquired taste for many early Tull fans, who took years to get around to liking it, in the way it takes certain people a long time to digest the idea of something different. Just the mention of Lafroaig gets my heat racing My wife bought me a bottle 2 years ago and I have just a small amount left that I'm hanging onto till I have a special celebration to make. I hope it's not too long before I can pour a glass of this special whisky
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 24, 2021 23:30:18 GMT
I associate Orion with the feeling of heading out, alone, into the bars, alleys and bedrooms of SF in late 1979 when the world and I were young. How is it that the longer version, which, of course, I had never heard when the song and mood were married and imprinted in my brain, even moreso captures the exact feeling of walking down the hill at the outset of a night during which anything could happen? That's because Anderson is a writer who can capture, Identify and understand how to tap into the sensory memory of his audience. He's THAT good.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 24, 2021 23:32:13 GMT
I always saw the album as music for people who understood an acquired taste, in the way there is a big difference between, say, Jack Daniels and Laphroaig; where a very small population of the rock community was going to give Stormwatch a fair shake. Laphroaig being the nectar of the gods to me, and more like Lavoris to most drinkers. Hell, the album has even shown to be an acquired taste for many early Tull fans, who took years to get around to liking it, in the way it takes certain people a long time to digest the idea of something different. Just the mention of Lafroaig gets my heat racing My wife bought me a bottle 2 years ago and I have just a small amount left that I'm hanging onto till I have a special celebration to make. I hope it's not too long before I can pour a glass of this special whisky One shot per day. That's all I ever take. And I swear it's the reason why I have not been sickly in twenty years. Nectar.....Of....The...gods!
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 24, 2021 23:41:30 GMT
One of Tull's greatest albums as far as I'm concerned. That it didnt sell as well and got bad reviews boggles my mind. The marketing of the album was poor (at least in Pennsylvania). I didn't see many ads for the album. The only way I knew it was coming out was because the manager of Sam Goody grabbed me when I walked through the door one Saturday morning. It got next to NO television attention and when the tour came to the Philadelphia / New Jersey area there wasn't any local news coverage. There wasn't much airplay on FM radio (WMMR or WYSP) beyond a mere mention that the album was out just before they played any one of the typical M.U. songs. Non Tull fans had no idea it even existed for them to even have the slightest chance to be turned on to it. Between here and 1987, Tull started being treated as a 70's band of has beens. Of course, it was very off-putting to me and my friends.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Jun 24, 2021 23:49:10 GMT
Under Wraps was a strange one, in that the UK tour began a week or so before the album release, so it was the first and only time that I had no idea what the new songs were going to be like. As such the album a few days later was a disappointment, the live shows the week before were fantastic (real drums and Ian in great voice at that stage of the tour). The album with its clinical electronic sound seemed second best. Sorry this is a Stormwatch thread! I was at the Philly show at the Spectrum. I think that may have been very early in the tour. Honestly, it ranks at the very bottom of my Tull shows. The show started out very cool with the band springing out of paper wrapping. Very cool and Very Tull. But, the new material did not go over well with the crowd. They were not ready for the 80's sounding Tull. I'm okay with an artist trying to keep things fresh instead of playing again and again..."the old rocker wore his....." But, when you have an audience who comes for 10 - 15 certain songs, it's best to give the people what they want.
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Post by adospencer on Jun 25, 2021 8:26:59 GMT
I associate Orion with the feeling of heading out, alone, into the bars, alleys and bedrooms of SF in late 1979 when the world and I were young. How is it that the longer version, which, of course, I had never heard when the song and mood were married and imprinted in my brain, even moreso captures the exact feeling of walking down the hill at the outset of a night during which anything could happen? That's because Anderson is a writer who can capture, Identify and understand how to tap into the sensory memory of his audience. He's THAT good. Absolutely right, at his best Anderson has no equal among those of us that his music touches, though the last couple of albums have had rather less to lose ourselves in.
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Post by JTull 007 on Sept 14, 2021 1:06:40 GMT
Peter Smith Happy 42nd Anniversary to Jethro Tull 🎤🎸🎸🎸🎹🎹🥁 Stormwatch 🌬🌀🔭 Released 14 September 1979 in the UK 🇬🇧 — celebrating success.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 25, 2021 5:55:35 GMT
☙Jethro Tull❧ 06 A Single Man Previously Unreleased 6,263 views Oct 29, 2019 ЯR Rinec 384 subscribers
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Post by steelmonkey on Oct 25, 2021 7:08:03 GMT
Nice to have this but I'm loyal to the one on Madison Square Garden 78 !!!
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 28, 2021 6:00:29 GMT
☙Jethro Tull❧ 11 The Lyricon Blues 5,332 views Oct 29, 2019
ЯR Rinec 385 subscribers Jethro Tull – Stormwatch - The 40th Anniversary Force 10 Edition Associated Recordings - A Steven Wilson Stereo Remix
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 5, 2021 7:03:33 GMT
Jethro Tull 10 Urban Apocalypse 7,366 views Oct 29, 2019
ЯR Rinec 390 subscribers
Halt the ringing cry of progress Sang the horseman riding by They've used up all the good god gave us And we're riding back to yesterday (to yesterday)
Turn the tables in the temples Break the holy trinity Of life assurance, General Motors And silicon efficiency
Stop cheating for your daily dues The race is run - no prize - you lose Stop craving for your daily news There's no messiah to change your views
The homeless breadless queues must eat Let reason re-assume its seat It stands waiting in the slips You hold the reins of the apocalypse
Galvanise yourselves to action Cast aside iniquity The atavistic voice has spoken Now print your names in history
Halt the ringing cry of progress Sang the horseman riding by They've used up all the good god gave us And we're riding back to yesterday
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 15, 2021 6:49:07 GMT
Jethro Tull 13 Rock Instrumental unfinished master 5,379 views Oct 29, 2019 ЯR Rinec 400 subscribers
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 27, 2021 8:07:48 GMT
Jethro Tull 12 Man Of God Previously Unreleased 6,015 views Oct 29, 2019
ЯR Rinec 408 subscribers Jethro Tull – Stormwatch - The 40th Anniversary Force 10 Edition Associated Recordings - A Steven Wilson Stereo Remix
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Post by smint100 on Mar 10, 2022 22:41:46 GMT
I've just picked up a brand new sealed Stormwatch 40th Anniversary Force 10 Edition from a local facebook sales group for £15. Pretty pleased with that! It almost seems a shame to open it ...
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 11, 2022 9:00:15 GMT
I've just picked up a brand new sealed Stormwatch 40th Anniversary Force 10 Edition from a local facebook sales group for £15. Pretty pleased with that! It almost seems a shame to open it ... Well done - that's certainly a bargain at that price.
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 25, 2022 6:50:15 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 12, 2022 5:45:21 GMT
Jethro Tull (제쓰로 툴) - Elegy 22 views Premiered April 10, 2022
Night Music 24 subscribers
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Post by marcm on May 6, 2022 9:16:26 GMT
I've just picked up a brand new sealed Stormwatch 40th Anniversary Force 10 Edition from a local facebook sales group for £15. Pretty pleased with that! It almost seems a shame to open it ... Well done - that's certainly a bargain at that price. Lucky you ! I had pre-ordered this box set on a famous online shop in 2019... Definitely you found a fantastic bargain, especially as I think this box set is now out of print... and sellers are speculating on it, as with the other ones... At least that's what I've noticed today when looking at the same online shop... It's proposed at prices over 60 euros now... what will it be in 6 months ? Songs From The Wood - that I missed, alas - is proposed (second-hand) at around 300 euros nowadays !
I love Stormwatch. I've always liked it a lot. I probably got it around Christmas 1983. Obviously, Ian doesn't like a lot for various reasons but for me, it's in my top 5 of Tull albums. It's go tstorng melodies and beautiful orchestrations, that progressive rock feel that I enjoy in the band, and lovely softer moments... 1979 was probably not the best year for such a release.
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Post by JTull 007 on Sept 14, 2022 1:19:30 GMT
Happy 43rd Anniversary to Jethro Tull 🎤🎸🎸🎸🎹🥁🥢 Stormwatch 🌧🌬👓 Released 14 September 1979 in the UK 🇬🇧
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