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Post by maddogfagin on May 17, 2013 13:04:01 GMT
Although it may be possible that some images were reversed by accident, these look authentic. The one showing his left leg up while standing on his right would seem to confirm it. I believe Ian probably could play the flute easier than the guitar as a lefty. All the Ian silhouettes are right handed. Maybe Jim. The only way to really tell would be if you could see on which wrist his watch was on. |
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Post by JTull 007 on May 17, 2013 14:25:17 GMT
Maybe Jim. The only way to really tell would be if you could see on which wrist his watch was on. Good point Graham. I just wonder if anyone recalls Ian ever standing on his left leg while holding up his right leg? That might be even more difficult to do...  |
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Post by corner of the sphere on May 17, 2013 14:54:27 GMT
No need to look for the watch, his bent right-hand little finger will do.
Hey! It's miraculously straightened in some of those pics.
Hmm, I think I'll go for the reversed negative as a better explanation.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 18, 2013 9:05:50 GMT
No need to look for the watch, his bent right-hand little finger will do. Hey! It's miraculously straightened in some of those pics. Hmm, I think I'll go for the reversed negative as a better explanation. Ah yes, I'd forgotten about the little "pinky". A few years back, Record Collector ran a picture of Brian "Blinky" Davison, the late lamented drummer with The Nice, which they stated was Phil Collins. No end of people contacted the magazine telling them of the error of their ways but they persisted with claiming said photo was Phil untill they had to bow to pressure and admit they'd cocked it up and that it was Blinky. Their excuse was that the label on the reverse of the original picture had been incorrect, which was a good journalistic excuse, but to make matters worse, a few issue later they ran a piece with a picture of Mick Taylor (late of the Stones) claiming it to be John Mayall. Far too many liquid lunches at "The Fox & Hounds" ? |
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Post by Tull50 on May 18, 2013 19:03:03 GMT
A famous inverted image  And this seems to me a quite serious mistake   |
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Post by Tull50 on May 18, 2013 19:41:00 GMT
Meant to be this way. Flawed Gems (cracked image) & The Other Sides Of Tull (reversed image) = you must get the Tull joke  Thanks for the clarification I just looked at the image and not the text  |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 19:42:53 GMT
And this seems to me a quite serious mistake Reversed image: This image depicts another side of Tull/Ian Anderson. The other being orchestral. CHEERS! |
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Post by Tull50 on May 18, 2013 19:48:28 GMT
And this seems to me a quite serious mistake Reversed image: This image depicts another side of Tull/Ian Anderson. The other being orchestral. CHEERS! Viewed this way it seems a great idea, Thank you! Remy |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 19:53:57 GMT
Reversed image: This image depicts another side of Tull/Ian Anderson. The other being orchestral. CHEERS! Viewed this way it seems a great idea, Thank you! Remy Seems to fit with my sense of humour. As Tull/Anderson usually does. |
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Post by Tull50 on May 18, 2013 21:06:53 GMT
Viewed this way it seems a great idea, Thank you! Remy Seems to fit with my sense of humour. As Tull/Anderson usually does. You're right, sometimes due to language I can not understand some things, but this is too clear and I should have understood the classic humor Tull / Anderson/tootull   Perhaps this would be a good image for this tour ;D |
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Post by Tull50 on May 25, 2013 19:16:11 GMT
Jethro Tull + Camel, Barcelona on September 1, 1982 
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Post by Tull50 on May 25, 2013 19:18:30 GMT
Jethro Tull, Madrid September 13, 1984
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Post by maddogfagin on May 31, 2013 13:12:19 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 1, 2013 8:45:12 GMT
Thanks Ray. I'll attempt to post some more soon and I must acknowledge my thanks to Gerrit in The Netherlands who sent me some items to replace those of mine which were damaged in a house flood. He also sent me some foreign language items which I'll also post sometime in the hope that the multi linguists we have on the Forum can translate them. The first mutual fanatic of whom I became aware, Gerrit De Gues or something like that. Have been surprised I have no memory of seeing him on Tullnet though I would not be surprised if he is at least registered. Unfortunately getting to the inner rim of ages where I cannot automatically presume people are still alive but...I like my chances re Gerritt. I say this because after my second trip to Skye where I got to meet Ian twice my younger brother, who arrived at mid point of my stay, and was with me on the second meeting outside Ian's home, and in most respects is the reason I was able to talk to him as long as I did, because my Brother was skilled at redirecting the conversation into man to man things, like operating a boat out in that Loch with services like our Coast Guard very far away in Fort William. Anyway Allan, my brother, wrote for the Memphis Commercial Appeal at the time, and penned a story of my meeting, one time referring to me as "likely the foremost authority on Jethro Tull on the planet", lol. Thankfully with the onset of A New Day and much later the net I have found that not to be true, do not want that mantle. Anyway, this Gerritt dude, in Holland I think, somehow, in 1983 was able to uncover this minor bit in the newspaper of a town who's population would probably struggle to make the top 15 in the United States. I mean people know Memphis for various reasons, the murder of MLK, and Elvis and blues music on Beale St being the main 3 I can think of. But Gerritt certainly provided me with a moment of wtf! How on earth did this man uncover this, years and years prior to the internet. Had another communication or 2 with him that I cannot recall thru snail mail, I think maybe a list of his tradable items, but in those days I had very little to trade and probably less inclination. For Ray and everyone else, I present Gerrit de Geus the Dutch über fan   Anyone able to translate the above ? |
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Post by tullist on Jun 1, 2013 13:19:39 GMT
Graham if I really stopped to consider what you bring to this forum my head would explode, the type of things I maybe expected to find out about once I was dead. Why I think these sorts of things would be accessible to me then is a mystery to me as well, darn sure never expected to see it in this world, and frankly, surprised what I guess is a local paper saw fit to do a story about it. And seeing how neat Gerritt has everything makes me feel like a tramp. Thank you Graham and Gerritt !
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 1, 2013 15:32:52 GMT
I know, Ray, I often think i should do the right thing, pack up my humble Tull stuff and send it to Graham for true conservation...but, you know, later.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 5, 2013 17:51:29 GMT
Fish Farming Made Easy, part 103
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 6, 2013 14:30:43 GMT
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 6, 2013 16:43:15 GMT
On a serious note: I agree with Ian on many things and promoting drug use is not good thing. As a teenager, we all are exposed to things our parents told us not to do. Sex, Drugs, and Rock n' Roll. During the sixties a cultural change occurred in a very dramatic way. People started getting high and expanding their appreciation for all types of groovy things. Ian was born in 1947 and rebelled against authority, religion, and many other things he was told. Looking back we all wish we had more self control in many things, yet we all are what we become. His dislike of groupies and even fans who drink or get high seems rather pointless to me because without them, Jethro Tull may have become Jethro Dull. I'm sure it's not his intention to ridicule others, but with tobacco and beer being his drugs of choice back then, why get mad at those who love you for being wild and crazy? Now today we have a different age demographic, but some fans I assume still like to party before and after a concert. With rules about second hand smoke in most venues, he is not affected as he once was. Of course I'm sure the smell of tobacco was never on his list things that upset him. So the hypocrisy of that issue is quite clear. Sometimes he has appeared prudish in those interviews and I understand he's just being honest. I would prefer he accept the fact that with ticket prices as high as they are, some folks might be turned off by his remarks. This article was many years ago when most Rock groups were all getting high. He may have felt anger at being type cast in that way. Right after he lit up another cigarette and drank another beer. "Jethro Tull was Far Out Man! Let's go see them again." ... Tull Fan from the good ole days.  |
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 6, 2013 17:38:17 GMT
On a serious note: I agree with Ian on many things and promoting drug use is not good thing. As a teenager, we all are exposed to things our parents told us not to do. Sex, Drugs, and Rock n' Roll. During the sixties a cultural change occurred in a very dramatic way. People started getting high and expanding their appreciation for all types of groovy things. Ian was born in 1947 and rebelled against authority, religion, and many other things he was told. Looking back we all wish we had more self control in many things, yet we all are what we become. His dislike of groupies and even fans who drink or get high seems rather pointless to me because without them, Jethro Tull may have become Jethro Dull. I'm sure it's not his intention to ridicule others, but with tobacco and beer being his drugs of choice back then, why get mad at those who love you for being wild and crazy? Now today we have a different age demographic, but some fans I assume still like to party before and after a concert. With rules about second hand smoke in most venues, he is not affected as he once was. Of course I'm sure the smell of tobacco was never on his list things that upset him. So the hypocrisy of that issue is quite clear. Sometimes he has appeared prudish in those interviews and I understand he's just being honest. I would prefer he accept the fact that with ticket prices as high as they are, some folks might be turned off by his remarks. This article was many years ago when most Rock groups were all getting high. He may have felt anger at being type cast in that way. Right after he lit up another cigarette and drank another beer. "Jethro Tull was Far Out Man! Let's go see them again." ... Tull Fan from the good ole days. I know... he always seemed to have great determination not to "lose it" I wonder if that was all to do with a strict upbringing or something more? I suppose on the other hand he would have been only in his early twenties when he said those things and lets face it I wouldn't like to see in print some of the cr*p I spewed when I was a teenager - there's enough now that I'm almost middle-aged .......where's the innocent faced whistling smiley when you want it? |
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 6, 2013 20:20:06 GMT
I think Ian probably has a much more sophisticated and customized understanding of drug and alcohol use and abuse now than he did in the late sixties when it really galled him that his talent was so often mistaken for chemicals ingested...that must have been insulting, to work so hard on lyrics and music only to have some dumbasses think the songs sprang fully formed from a joint or hit of acid.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 6, 2013 21:23:40 GMT
I think Ian probably has a much more sophisticated and customized understanding of drug and alcohol use and abuse now than he did in the late sixties when it really galled him that his talent was so often mistaken for chemicals ingested...that must have been insulting, to work so hard on lyrics and music only to have some dumbasses think the songs sprang fully formed from a joint or hit of acid. I'm sure he felt that at times. But those were the days of liberated ideals which included lots of excess. Pushing the boundaries in all directions. Tull was in a business of selling out coliseums and eventually stadiums. I just hope he doesn't blame his fans for having a good time. Not that all rowdy fans are drunk or high. Some would have been that way as though it was expected. People screamed and yelled for all kinds of reasons. Even though he felt his music has more merit than just for a party, I would hope his view to be less negative. Whether intentional or not, Tull was enjoyed for all those reasons by millions of die-hard fans. This isn't the Greatful Dead fanbase, but something even more diverse. Just like those who yelled out "Aqualung" on the video. People like to show devotion in their own way. Concerts are sometimes like sporting events. Go Tull!  |
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 7, 2013 1:21:55 GMT
I agree...sometimes you gotta dance with who brung you to the party...Rock and Roll made Tull so Ian should have tolerance for a rock and roll audience...as much as i would hope people would be like me...quietly weep in their seats during Tull gigs....I'm not going to judge someone for yelling out 'Aqualung' at a Tull concert...comes with the territory...just not during Budapest or Change of Horses, please.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 7, 2013 6:57:53 GMT
I think also that he was a young grump yesterday but an old grump now.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 7, 2013 13:18:05 GMT
I think also that he was a young grump yesterday but an old grump now.
Years ago I promised myself not to act my age. I am what I feel, see, and do. The thought of turning 30 was like giving up on all the fun you had before and spend your life pretending to be mature and logical. When you hit 40 you start realizing 30 wasn't so bad after all. When you hit 50 it's becoming the same only a little slower. 60 was like becoming a grandfather with retirement on the horizon. I'm looking ahead and seeing more fun and excitement, with things I want to be other than what is expected by age. Ian may have been somewhat cynical about his audience because he could not relate to the wild lifestyle that others appeared to have. In some ways he was turned off by the fans that gave him popularity and success. Now that he's 65 he wants to control things a lot more. Let's grow older with grace and tolerance. Life is too short to become what is expected. Rock and Roll. |
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 7, 2013 13:52:34 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 7, 2013 14:18:28 GMT
I agree...sometimes you gotta dance with who brung you to the party...Rock and Roll made Tull so Ian should have tolerance for a rock and roll audience...as much as i would hope people would be like me...quietly weep in their seats during Tull gigs....I'm not going to judge someone for yelling out 'Aqualung' at a Tull concert...comes with the territory...just not during Budapest or Change of Horses, please. OK if you insist I won't at The Royal Albert Hall then  |
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Post by tullist on Jun 7, 2013 16:25:56 GMT
I agree...sometimes you gotta dance with who brung you to the party...Rock and Roll made Tull so Ian should have tolerance for a rock and roll audience...as much as i would hope people would be like me...quietly weep in their seats during Tull gigs....I'm not going to judge someone for yelling out 'Aqualung' at a Tull concert...comes with the territory...just not during Budapest or Change of Horses, please. Did not really mean to link to Bernie's quote, just unsure for a moment how to merely reply. I am hard pressed to think of any of Ian's onstage outburst's down the years that were particularly out of line, I believe normally his responses are of a nature that most artist's would have. Its one thing if you are in a loud band with fewer stylistic curves, I suppose then shout all you want. But remember I hear shows from all the years on a regular basis. And one observation, not of course that I remember all instances right off the top of my head, but I really cannot remember any of these "outbursts" during a standard loud section of a song, definitely not during Aqualung or Locomotive Breath. One I had on only yesterday, a show from Tel Aviv in 2000, during the opening parts of My God, you know, real quiet like, some guy is having a totally orgiastic response in the crowd, roughly 3 times as loud as the music being played, til Ian inquires as to whether or not he needs a doctor. One part of me has always wanted to be Ian's tour guide on a psychedelic experience, maybe including a 20 mile or so Highland track. Another part of me, especially decade's ago after seeing him close, with that vein that used to stick out in his forehead when he really hit stride, came to a realization of sorts that he is already living in this state of mind that we mere seekers seek. Pure focus, completely in the moment. Did you all know your postings will be "stickied?" |
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 8, 2013 6:51:35 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 8, 2013 7:04:18 GMT
So . . . whatever happened to Honeymoon Suite ? If your really interested they're still touring albeit with a few changes in line-up. Maybe we should get TT to check out a gig  www.honeymoonsuite.com/ |
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