In 1977 i reckon martin and jimmy page were level pegging for me at no 1 followed by buzz aldrin, scott gorham and then IA. But now IA is no1 followed by george orwell, larry burrows, robert capa and buzz aldrin. its not that i dont rate martin, hes a top guitar player, its just that these days i'm more into the acoustic side of tull and the musical genius of IA along with his superb lyricism. They say never meet your heroes, once photographed buzz aldrin for my newspaper and it wasn't awe inspiring.... but this man had been living a goldfish bowl existence worldwide for 30 years so its hardly surprising...must add: julian bream is levelling out at joint 6th with buzz a. i loved his c4 series guitarra in 1984, can't think of a greater living exponent of the classical guitar.
I never thought about it like that but I know where your coming from. If I had to think about who my heroes are I couldn't come up with anyone. I'd have to bring it down a bit and say who do I admire or who would I most like to be? if that makes sense and then I would shield myself from disappointment by saying well no one's perfect. ;D I suppose for me ; Pioneers - medicine - people who devote their life to helping their fellow man and anyone who works in medicine and care. I was watching a programme recently about Frank Pantridge the inventor of the portable defribillator who like a lot of inventors experimented with the prototypes on themselves - that takes courage and dedication! Artists I really do admire anyone who devotes their life to art and imagination be it music,painting etc and has the satisfaction of doing nothing else to meet the bills!
Anyone who doesn't take life or themselves seriously
So if I had one hero he/she would have to have invented something that saves their fellow man and then gone on to writing/performing music and/or painting and also does a bit of stand up comedy at the weekend
Music heros: Ian, Neil Young, for staying the course, Lou Reed for proving that anyone can have a second act after all, Dylan-for waiting out all the poet of a generation hoo-haw and turning into the kinf of guy he admired when he was getting started and...how about Eminem for pounding out the ugly truth...over and over again...just like Dylan did when he was that age.
My other heros would include Dave Eggers- a local writer who turns all his money into teaching kids how and why to read, Michael Moore for pissing in the face of American hypocrisy and facades, Dennis Kucinich for being a politician who tells the truth and sticks to his ideals, Spongbob square pants for amusing my daughter for long enough that i can shave or read for a few minutes and a woman named Kulvadee Thongpibul...my current intern who works so hard that I can post at work to the Tull forum!!!
Yes, both would be in my top 5 musical heroes along with artist such as Peter Green, Paul Simon and David Gilmour.
Other heroes would probably include Martin Luther King, Bobby Moore (West Ham and England), Clint Eastwood (if only for his film Play Misty for Me), Roger Scott (UK radio presenter) and Ralph Vaughan Williams.
“The smallest act of kindness is worth more than the greatest intention” ― Kahlil Gibran
I dunno, really. I admire them both, but I'm not sure I'd list them as "heroes"...
I don't have many real icons. Stirling Moss, Ranulph Fiennes... John Force, perhaps... that's about it. However, if we take the focus down to music, then they are both in the top 5 favourites, along with Hendrix, Gilmour and Page...
Ian and Martin are dedicated and adventurous craftsmen who assist the evolution and value of the craft as much as create particular things (songs). But "hero" is a tough thing for me to create a list of, and Joseph Campbell's definition of hero is about the best. There's a lot of stuff going on in this world. There are millions upon millions of heros and quite frankly I'm not sure how to compare one against the other until I know the story.
Beethoven is a hero because of all the abuse and neglect he went through as a young kid, then he had to take care of his family when he was barely out of his teens (and they were poor), then his parents died when he was still young, he had to move to make any money, he started losing his hearing early and had troubles finding a woman companion. Later in life, they now know, it was his own doctor's medical treatments that played a large part in making him painfully sick for years and eventually killing him. Yet through it all he strove to attain the greatness of liberty as an experience, he gave pure appreciation for spiritual development in his music, he monitored and presented the world around him with music of magnificent honesty, scope, imagination and attention. He kept evolving as a person and as a musical composer to the day he died. Many say his best music is in his last quartets, and if you want to hear the fully capable Beethoven's greatest musical reach, listen to Quartet's Opus 130 and especially 131. Listen to it once and it will nourish your soul forever. Because it's pure honesty.
maddogfagin: May 7 is the 127th day of the year (128th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. 238 days remain until the end of the year.
May 7, 2019 6:59:01 GMT
rabey: Hi John/bunkerfan and Steelmonkey.
May 7, 2019 23:08:40 GMT
rabey: Thanks for the interest. Unfortunately because Ian/Tull is doing his own book when I sent a request to find John I got stonewalled, even though I have a signed contract by Ian from 2013 stating I was doing a DVD version of The book. I also have had trouble
May 7, 2019 23:11:47 GMT
rabey: I guess after 5 years Ian forgot this even existed. Imean, he never even listed my book with all the other books that have been out of print for decades, yet mine and Tim S still have books in print and we're not mentioned.
May 7, 2019 23:13:11 GMT
rabey: I just get the impression that this AND having just dealt with Tull are all they care about really and it peeves me when the truth is when I first got my original contract with a US publisher to write the book with quotes on 3 other books on ELP,Crimson,
May 7, 2019 23:21:53 GMT
rabey: and YES, I contacted both Martin and Dave from AND and offered involvement in writing and photography. but Dave said no interest and martin was happy to get his photos printed just for credit. Later Daves book arrived and martin wanted 100 bucks a shot.
May 7, 2019 23:25:00 GMT
rabey: Anyway, The publisher refused the cost of photos, Martin wrote the only negative review of the book in print except for Amazon where a few stinkers stalled it's movement, but basically there was nothing advertising the book outside the UK.
May 7, 2019 23:29:01 GMT
rabey: I have to find a better way to post.
May 7, 2019 23:29:21 GMT
steelmonkey: Fights about history, public knowledge and more personally researched knowledge are pretty hard to untangle...but nothing takes away your contributions to total Tull information.
May 8, 2019 21:35:56 GMT
rabey: Very Kind, Steelmonkey!
May 9, 2019 1:33:24 GMT