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Post by itullian on Apr 20, 2023 5:53:11 GMT
Just ordered mine
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Post by smint100 on Apr 20, 2023 10:34:16 GMT
Yay! Mine has arrived! I ordered the Limited Edition 2 CD Blu Ray Artbook - and it looks fabulous. Loving the included prep notes for the band
Unfortunately I'm just on my way out so will have to listen to it later
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Post by samatcn on Apr 20, 2023 12:09:54 GMT
Yay! Mine has arrived! I ordered the Limited Edition 2 CD Blu Ray Artbook - and it looks fabulous. Loving the included prep notes for the band Unfortunately I'm just on my way out so will have to listen to it later Lucky! For myself, I hope spotify doesn’t let me down with the midnight release. They’re usually good at that.
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Post by adospencer1 on Apr 20, 2023 14:08:21 GMT
Something came to me this evening that Ian seems to be composing within a triangle, not a circle.......does that make any sense to anyone Of course I have the album pre ordered, but I have not liked much any of the tracks so far.........but I was the same with The last album, and the acoustic tracks I loved......... Sadly Ian plays no acoustic guitar on the new album Makes sense to me. He now comes up with a theme, then sits down on a day (decided in advance) and makes himself write. This seems pretty "forced" and not how he used to do it and it shows. The lyrics don't invite us into the songs anymore to decide for ourselves and something has been lost because of that.
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Post by samatcn on Apr 20, 2023 14:45:24 GMT
Ian talks about this new album was going to be an instrumental album, but ended up with lyrics..........but never admits to having vocal problems....... I think he has admitted it on a bunch of occasions though. There’s never been an indepth interview on the subject as far as I know, and I get the feeling that it’s somewhat sensitive for him. I remember reading an interview with Barrie Barlow somewhere. Barrie, ever the union rep, was criticising Ian on this or that decision, then he kind of stopped himself and went, ”well… on the other hand, if Ian didn’t have a big ego none of us would be here talking”. I dunno about you, but I feel that thought is highly germane to our conversations here.
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Post by tullabye on Apr 20, 2023 16:55:49 GMT
Ian’s vocals are very distinctive. Ian’s vocals are Tull. Besides, I doubt you could find someone to deliver his idiosyncratic lyrics convincingly like only he can. These are not your standard lyrics. Ian is nearing the end of his career and it’s a moot point because it’s not going to change. I’m happy with that.
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Post by samatcn on Apr 20, 2023 23:03:02 GMT
Midnight release is a-go! I will jot down spontaneous notes after first listen.
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46 minutes later. I don’t know that I have anything coherent to say. (There’s at least one plot twist.) The long and the short of it: I enjoyed that a lot.
Off to listen again!
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Post by JTull 007 on Apr 21, 2023 0:34:22 GMT
Ian Anderson in conversation with Bruce Soord Pt.3
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Post by JTull 007 on Apr 21, 2023 1:33:18 GMT
The new Jethro Tull album RökFlöte (out this Friday!) is available in a variety of limited edition coloured vinyl formats! See the guide below on where you can find them... jethrotullband.lnk.to/RokFlote
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Post by smint100 on Apr 21, 2023 8:53:25 GMT
Well, am on the second play through - and am loving it. Stand out (unheard) tracks for me are Wolf Unchained, Trickster, Cornucopia and Guardian's Watch. The only one I'm not sure of is The Feathered Consort - but it will probably grow on me
Ginnungagap and The Navigators are still my current favourites, but that's probably due to familiarity. Need to get out in the car more with the volume up!
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Post by samatcn on Apr 21, 2023 13:38:32 GMT
Joe is a delight. He thankfully didn’t do any of the Extreme Sports Shredding I know he’s capable of, in fact he plays very tastefully on this album!
I was concerned that the short development time in addition to all this talk of ”recording a day here and there” would result in an undercooked album, but I really don’t think that happened. If anything, this seems more detailed than TZG.
The voice is fine and the naysayers can enjoy their nostalgia in peace!
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Post by nobodyspecial on Apr 21, 2023 19:21:16 GMT
I need to give RF more time - as with most JT releases. However, I can't help but notice the obvious, clear differences between IA's production on 'Navigators' and BS's; to my 40 years plus JT listening ears I have to say that BS's mix is (much) more clearly defined. Meaning that the mix is more vibrant and to me, and enjoyable. (As an aside to that, it almost seems like IA;s ears have lost some ability to notice? I'll say that it was a steamed source but that doesn't disguise a mix that much) The other thing I did notice was how many of the songs seemed to lack a bit of 'drive' or 'punch' and caught myself thinking; it doesn't sound like a 'rock flute' effort. Some of that can be song/subject driven,,,,but. More listens will surely define all this/that.
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 21, 2023 19:21:34 GMT
Very early impressions:
Strong Favorite: 7....almost puts the rest of the songs to shame! Don't like (yet?) 1 and 3 Meh: 6 and 9 Sounds like Tull to me: 2, 4, 5, 8, 10 and 11.
The album will get plenty of attention this weekend.
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Post by oldghost on Apr 21, 2023 21:15:16 GMT
Ughhh....this is a tough one ! After a few listens I really don't know what to say. One thing is for sure...it was exciting and above all challenging listen bringing many rewards, and at least as many disappointments. Unfortunately for me somehow happened exactly what I was afraid of. When Zealot Gene was on the horizon they've put out three teaser singles of more or less mediocre material, so listening to the rest of the album was such a pleasant surprise...I think here is quite the opposite ! They prelaunched some of the best material straight into our hungry ears, and now listening to the whole thing is slowly turning to a bit of disappointment (at least for me). Don't get me wrong...it's not all bad news and this is far from being a bad album, yet many shortcomings can't be overlooked. The whole album turns out as a fierce competition of songs about which one will end more abruptly and the candidates for the first prize are many...too many ! There are just a couple of songs which work well as a whole, otherwise there are just bits and pieces within most of the songs that bring smile on this listener's face while everything else leaves a feel of underdevelopment. For example, Cornucopia, in my opinion the loveliest track on the album towards the end suddenly threatens to develop into something even more exciting, but then just ends abruptly...and so do many other songs ! Why are you doing this to us Ian ? There are many nice and cool moments on the album but as a whole it turns out a bit chaotic. It's a sort of album Picasso would make if he was a musician...oh yeah...the album should be titled 'Picasso J. Tull' instead of RockFlute which is something similar as if Mark Knopfler would entitle one of his albums 'ElectricGuitar'...not terribly inventive, is it? Mentioning guitars I can't avoid to emphasise one of the brightest spots on the album and that's Joe's work. Maybe Ian should allow him to stretch even more...and errr, well, yes...I also missed a bit more acoustic guitar on the album. Please Ian, bring it back on the next one.. And what about the production? I'd say it's slightly better compared to ZG, but really not much...and when one inevitably notices the difference between Ian's and Bruce's mix on 'Navigators' it becomes extremely painful...and the difference is like a difference between night and day...Ian's mix is flat while Bruce brings to the track much needed sparkle, so I'm looking forward to hear his alternative mix of the whole album...I even hope to be blown away. And in the end there comes almost inevitable comparison with Zealot Gene. Many people say that RF is essentially on the same level with ZG. I don't know...maybe in some way it is but on the other hand I see at least one major difference. I think ZG is more nicely rounded album (musically) and especially more consistent while not as adventurous as RF is. In the end all depends of listeners taste...so let's make a few more spins...if not, just move to another one (October 2024)...
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Post by stevep on Apr 21, 2023 21:43:56 GMT
I have listened to the album a few times and my initial impressions are that I like 4 tracks on it and the rest are (using Steelmonkey's term) meh.... Hopefully it will grow on me with more listening time.
I must have missed something though. Are there two mixes of "the Navigator?". I thought the album version sounded different to the one on the video.
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Post by oldghost on Apr 21, 2023 21:50:00 GMT
I have listened to the album a few times and my initial impressions are that I like 4 tracks on it and the rest are (using Steelmonkey's term) meh.... Hopefully it will grow on me with more listening time. I must have missed something though. Are there two mixes of "the Navigator?". I thought the album version sounded different to the one on the video. Yes, there are two different mixes...The edited mix for the video is by Bruce Soord.
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 21, 2023 22:05:15 GMT
Give Ian credit for calling the perfect one The Perfect One
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Post by oldghost on Apr 21, 2023 22:59:36 GMT
Give Ian credit for calling the perfect one The Perfect One Sorry for bothering you mate...while I like this song quite alot I'm still genuinely curious what is so hugely special about it that you consider it far superior to the others...?
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Post by nobodyspecial on Apr 22, 2023 1:04:14 GMT
I need to give RF more time - as with most JT releases. However, I can't help but notice the obvious, clear differences between IA's production on 'Navigators' and BS's; to my 40 years plus JT listening ears I have to say that BS's mix is (much) more clearly defined. Meaning that the mix is more vibrant and to me, and enjoyable. (As an aside to that, it almost seems like IA;s ears have lost some ability to notice? I'll say that it was a steamed source but that doesn't disguise a mix that much) The other thing I did notice was how many of the songs seemed to lack a bit of 'drive' or 'punch' and caught myself thinking; it doesn't sound like a 'rock flute' effort. Some of that can be song/subject driven,,,,but. More listens will surely define all this/that. Well, I've just finished my4th listen. Okay, I'm back with 4 listens over my ears. With head phones there are 'dynamic elements' thinly buried in IA's mix - not every song but they're there and would've added more to the songs. I'm going to guess that he knows what he likes in the final mix and may not be all that interested in handing over the mixing helm to someone else. Oh well, it's his prerogative - he's the boss. At this point, after my headphone listens and other than some familiar melodies from the past, I'd say it's a fine effort - there are a few slightly clunky transitions - but I wonder how much is because of not building melodies as a group meet? So far, I walk away from the listens with consistent favorites and they are all on the rockier side with 'Wolf Unchained' really in my head. After my previously mentioned 40 plus years as a dedicated JT 'loyalist' and to those that may care; it can take many listens before the sound 'checks-in' so be patient - TULL never was easy to grasp - the music is complex even in simple forms. Take your time, sit back, relax and listen.
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Post by JTull 007 on Apr 22, 2023 1:25:59 GMT
Jethro Tull - RökFlöte: "resounds with personality, meaning and drama." LINK Ian Anderson draws on Viking mythology on the follow-up to The Zealot Gene – but no one’s living in the past on Tull’s 23rd album (Image: © Michael Robinson)
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Post by bunkerfan on Apr 22, 2023 6:56:01 GMT
I've only had one listen up to now but I'm impressed and so glad it didn't remind me of recent albums. My favourite at the moment is The Feathered Consort, the musical arrangement is brilliant as it is on the whole album. My only criticism is that I wish the poem at the start of Voluspo was on a seperate track but I love the song.
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Post by adospencer1 on Apr 22, 2023 7:49:36 GMT
After a few listens its a relief. Four songs I like a lot and three more ok is as good as I hoped for. Its certainly better than the last couple of albums, it does sound in places like proper Tull. Joe is brilliant and should have been let loose more , a folk rock guy much more suited to the Tull style than the generic shredding and string bending of Florian. There is little "drive" to the songs, which cant be helped, IAs voice struggles to keep up as it is, but it doesn't seem to plod along at one pace like TZG did. My only real criticism are the lyrics. Clever and thoughtful of course, we know we always get that! But the is no ambiguity any more, nothing to lure us into the songs and make our own conclusions ,instead its a series of statements or facts (as IA) sees them. I think this has come about since he started to force himself to sit down and write to a theme. I miss those days of studying the lyric sheet and looking for myself in them Its a 7 out of 10 for me , hoping to grow into it even more.
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Post by JTull 007 on Apr 22, 2023 12:58:58 GMT
The Smell of Vinyl Jethro Tull - RökFlöte (Rock Flute) Unboxing of the Deluxe Limited Edition
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Post by samatcn on Apr 22, 2023 13:54:49 GMT
Aha, I somehow didn’t pick up on the single version of Nav being done by Bruce, but that makes perfect sense. I did think it sounded unusually modern for Tull! I vastly prefer Ian’s mix in this case. Maybe that’s just because of the longer and more well-rounded version of the song, but I don’t think so. In the final breakdown, Ian allows the high guitar line to die off the first two times, giving the thing more variety, whereas Bruce just loudness wars it into the stratosphere. I also think Scott Hammond’s brilliant cymbal playing comes through better in Ian’s more basic mix. I look forward to the full Bruce mix though, that will be really interesting!
For those who feel the album lacks dynamics and clarity, is it possible you’re not listening to it loud enough? Yes, Ian is probably slightly deaf, so his mixes tend to sound great at the obscenely high volume I enjoy my rock-based entertainment!
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Post by JTull 007 on Apr 22, 2023 17:35:14 GMT
Voluspo Released on: 2023-04-21 Composer, Lyricist, Mixing Engineer, Producer, Recording Engineer: Ian Anderson Mastering Engineer: Nick Watson
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Post by itullian on Apr 22, 2023 21:41:47 GMT
Just got mine. Love it. Ended too soon. I wanted more!
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Post by char1 on Apr 22, 2023 23:11:08 GMT
Jethro Tull - RökFlöte: "resounds with personality, meaning and drama." LINK Ian Anderson draws on Viking mythology on the follow-up to The Zealot Gene – but no one’s living in the past on Tull’s 23rd album (Image: © Michael Robinson) Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of the above artwork? Thanks, Char1
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Post by char1 on Apr 22, 2023 23:11:40 GMT
Jethro Tull - RökFlöte: "resounds with personality, meaning and drama." LINK Ian Anderson draws on Viking mythology on the follow-up to The Zealot Gene – but no one’s living in the past on Tull’s 23rd album (Image: © Michael Robinson)How can someone purchase a copy of this awesome artwork??
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 23, 2023 0:26:01 GMT
Giving the album a full thru listen raises the whole thing quite a bit. It's making more sense and the strength of the music is undeniable. I dunno why one track jumped out ahead for me ( The Perfect One) especially without lyrics and context....but doesn't that always happen? Going backwards, early favorites have included Mine is the Mountain, Enter the Uninvited, Change of Horses, Back Door Angels, Seal Driver, Big Dipper, etc etc etc. Comments above about the somewhat concrete rigidity about what Ian has decided to tell us about Norse mythology rings true with me. I prefer vaguer lyrics that allow self-interpretation, often from own life, like one can with songs like Under Wraps or Jump Start. Norse mythology just plain not high on my list of interests but I would listen to Tull/Ian singing the phone book. Anyway...it's new Tull, it will get many more listens and it will sink into my musical DNA with all the rest.
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Post by bunkerfan on Apr 23, 2023 6:48:43 GMT
For those who feel the album lacks dynamics and clarity, is it possible you’re not listening to it loud enough? Yes, Ian is probably slightly deaf, so his mixes tend to sound great at the obscenely high volume I enjoy my rock-based entertainment! Good point I listened yesterday with the volume right up and it sounded even better than the day before. The songs have obviously been tailored to accommodate Ian's vocal range but the music is awesome, I think it's a musical masterpiece Today's favourites, Wolf Unchained and Trickster (and the mistletoe)
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