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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 26, 2014 9:29:50 GMT
It's been mentioned over the years the link between the feel of some of the songs/lyrics and the works of Charles Dickens. I'm not sure whether it's ever been documented as to Ian's love or not of Dickens or whether the feel of some of the lyrics ie settings and themes are just coincidental. I have not read all of Dickens but the one book I keep returning to is my favourite- The Old Curiosity Shop. I just thought about Nell Trent's vulnerability and Cross- Eyed Marys albeit in a different way - fanciful maybe? Dickens wrote about the changes in country life and also of the Industrial Revolution. Nell and her grandfather trekked through country village and large ugly, dark industrial town in a journey that echoed Dickens thoughts on change - a theme that runs through Tull songs and in the name of the band.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 26, 2014 21:14:30 GMT
It's been mentioned over the years the link between the feel of some of the songs/lyrics and the works of Charles Dickens. I'm not sure whether it's ever been documented as to Ian's love or not of Dickens or whether the feel of some of the lyrics ie settings and themes are just coincidental. I have not read all of Dickens but the one book I keep returning to is my favourite- The Old Curiosity Shop. I just thought about Nell Trent's vulnerability and Cross- Eyed Marys albeit in a different way - fanciful maybe? Dickens wrote about the changes in country life and also of the Industrial Revolution. Nell and her grandfather trekked through country village and large ugly, dark industrial town in a journey that echoed Dickens thoughts on change - a theme that runs through Tull songs and in the name of the band. Yeah.... And he bears a resemblance to Fagin.... ....especially the one in the musical..... I used to wonder if the bit in "Oliver", when Fagin (Ron Moody) is jigging around like Ian Anderson on stage, was a deliberate nod to our Tull hero I'm pretty sure that Tull were around when that movie was made.........it'll be close maybe......
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Post by futureshock on Feb 27, 2014 18:09:20 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 27, 2014 18:53:36 GMT
I'm sure everyone already knows that Steve Marriot was one of the strret urchins in the original Oliver play !
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 27, 2014 20:11:23 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 28, 2014 9:10:18 GMT
Ian Anderson Ron Moody (Shome mishtake, shurely? - Picture Editor)
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Post by acreman on Feb 28, 2014 9:17:51 GMT
The author whose work I'm most reminded of when I listen to Tull (particularly Songs from the Wood and Heavy Horses) is Thomas Hardy. Can't help but think of Tess of the d'Urbervilles when I hear Velvet Green.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 14:20:57 GMT
The author whose work I'm most reminded of when I listen to Tull (particularly Songs from the Wood and Heavy Horses) is Thomas Hardy. Can't help but think of Tess of the d'Urbervilles when I hear Velvet Green. Good call! Tess of the d'Ubervilles is a wonderful choice. To that I would add Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights. I love how a band like Tull can generate such literate commentary (he says, trying not to sound like a pompous twerp!).
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Post by acreman on Feb 28, 2014 15:36:24 GMT
Another great book, for sure. I can envision Heathcliff, in another time and place, calling for someone to bring him his broadsword before going out to slay some beasties.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 28, 2014 16:02:52 GMT
The author whose work I'm most reminded of when I listen to Tull (particularly Songs from the Wood and Heavy Horses) is Thomas Hardy. Can't help but think of Tess of the d'Urbervilles when I hear Velvet Green. Good call! Tess of the d'Ubervilles is a wonderful choice. To that I would add Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights. I love how a band like Tull can generate such literate commentary (he says, trying not to sound like a pompous twerp!). hey, where were you guys when I was doing my English Literature GCE exams at school - could have done with your help
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 28, 2014 16:57:23 GMT
Not born
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 28, 2014 16:58:45 GMT
sorry dog...I know I'm only a few years younger than you....trying to convince friend who just turned 34 that the approaching tragedy of turning 35 is not THAT bad.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 28, 2014 17:27:57 GMT
sorry dog...I know I'm only a few years younger than you....trying to convince friend who just turned 34 that the approaching tragedy of turning 35 is not THAT bad. Age is only a number ( I do try convincing myself of that sometimes )
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Post by nonrabbit on Mar 1, 2014 9:21:09 GMT
I love how a band like Tull can generate such literate commentary... Yes why is that? I don't think it's just in the clever lyrics but also in the theme/s chosen for nearly every album. I often wonder how many facets of his personality are in the songs and albums. I think I asked that question once on one of the Q&A's (or it was one of many on my list) but gave up as I would probably have got a glib answer.
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