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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 29, 2012 18:36:16 GMT
Chateau recordings, to me, part and parcel of APP...and as with all works in progress...some of the stuff the artist didn't keep sounds as good as or better than the finished product...the three cuts that came on the 20 year box proved to me that APP was just tip of that era's creative iceberg...and the stuff on Nightcap equally impressive. There's a castle in Krakow....where Polish kings used to live...and every hour, on the hour, they play a mournful little trumpet riff...to commemerate some guy getting offed by an arrow to signal the start of some 14th or 15th century war....I was surely drunk when I heard it ( try kill the westerner with alcohol being Poland's main spectator sport in 1977)...but when i heard 'First Post' all those many years later...I was sure I recognized it. See that's why I love Tull and Ian's songwriting skills - they bring out the magic in himself and those fans who interprete the sounds and words in so many imaginative ways. Bugle sounds from a tower in Kracow ............................magical. Wonderful.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 30, 2012 9:07:54 GMT
From Sea Of Tranquility www.seaoftranquility.orgJethro Tull: Thick As A Brick (40th Anniversary Special Edition) Thick As A Brick, first released in 1971, is a classic progressive rock recording by Jethro Tull. As the years pass its relevance and legend continue to grow. The band's founder and leader Ian Anderson has said, implied or interjected comments into conversations over the years pointing to the fact that it was not a progressive recording. As any good prog fan knows (as well as Anderson) this is indeed a progressive rock album and a widely known masterpiece of the genre. The band's lineup for this classic slice of prog was as follows: Ian Anderson (lead vocals, acoustic guitar, flute, violin, trumpet, and saxophone), Martin Barre (electric guitar, lute), John Evan (piano, organ, harpsichord), Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond (bass guitar, vocals), Barriemore Barlow (drums, percussion, timpani) and David (now Dee) Palmer (brass and string arrangements). This special 40th Anniversary edition comes in a book format with plenty of information, interviews and stories about the session and it includes 1 CD, the original version of the album, and 1 DVD that offers several different formats for your listening pleasure in part one (or side one) clocking in at 22:45 and part two (or side two) ticking off at the 21:07 mark, giving us a grand total of 43:52 of pure prog pretentiousness at its very best. It was intended and is one continuous song and the band most definitely succeeded in producing one of the more popular forms of the genre. The DVD is a marvel of sound reengineered by Steven Wilson. It contains a 5.1 surround sound mix (in DTS and Dolby Digital), the new stereo mix in high resolution, and the original stereo mix in high resolution. The album was also rereleased on vinyl for all of your collectors and those that still appreciate the LP format. I listened to every version on the DVD and "really didn't mind sitting this one out." As expected some great things come about throughout the listen. Wilson is a musical genius in every sense of the word and Ian is quite aware of this and I am sure every succeeding anniversary edition that is released will be handled by his knowing hands. He also did a splendid job with the lavish Aqualung 40th Anniversary Box Set which I also had the distinct pleasure of covering. If you watch the DVD on your computer as the music is playing or on your home theater you will see the book in front of you and the pages turning every few minutes however it is a bit easier on the eyes to read direct from the physical packaging. The book format gives full attention to the original intention of the newspaper The St. Cleve Chronicle, which adorned the cover of the original album. There are some pretty funny titles in the St. Cleve like "Fly High With Aunt Molly's Recipe" and "Council Is Wound Up." It may be the first time many listeners really paid attention to the all of text provided in the fictitious rag (including me). TAAB never becomes monotonous, in fact it is forever in a musical flux and quite unlike anything I have ever heard. That is what makes it such a joy to take in all in one sitting. Considering the band was faced with the daunting task of trying to keep up with momentum of the brilliant and groundbreaking Aqualung, they fared quite well. This was no easy task mind you and as we know now they were able overcome any and all barriers to continuing their successful run and in the same instance their audience grew more with this very unique offering. One factor that really drove this recording along was the combination of Ian's flute and John Evan's outstanding keyboards. This does not take away anything from the rest of the accomplished musicianship however after many listens over the years and most recently every single version provided in this set, it becomes obvious that these two instruments give it the unusual and most appealing atmosphere and that classical/world influence that invited the plethora of other instruments to join in completing each passage with an expertise rarely accomplished by any other band since (Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells comes to mind). What else can you say after a band provides a session such as this? As Ian sings "Vote superman for President" it makes you stop for a moment and wonder why he did not hold that title in 1972 after producing this amazing work. What may be even more of a spectacle is to catch Ian and his band performing the entire album live along with TAAB2. It would be an amazing show to witness. Added: November 29th 2012 Reviewer: Keith Hannaleck
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Post by bunkerfan on Dec 6, 2012 11:38:30 GMT
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Post by bunkerfan on Dec 7, 2012 7:00:51 GMT
STOP PRESS: AUDIO GLITICHES ON TAAB 40th Special Edition DVD
We have been alerted to the fact that there are three small audio glitches on the 5.1 streams on the DVD part of the Thick As A Brick Special Edition CD/DVD set. We are working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible. Any new stock going into stores will be amended & for fans who’ve already purchased the set we will be making available a replacement DVD disc for you. More information to follow shortly. This occurred in the very final stage of mastering prior to manufacture of the commercial run of product and was not noticed until attentive early purchasers spotted the digital errors. With our apologies.
EMI Music, Ian Anderson and Steven Wilson.
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Post by hwkn on Dec 8, 2012 15:48:21 GMT
I wonder when we'll know when the fixed version of the dvd is ready to be sent to those of us who bought the set.
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 8, 2012 17:15:15 GMT
I wonder when we'll know when the fixed version of the dvd is ready to be sent to those of us who bought the set. Don't know. I've sent a couple of emails to emi but heard nothing as yet but I would have hoped it would have been about now but as it's the xmas sales and the fact that Tull must be way down on emi's priorities, that it'll be the new year before we find out. But stranger things have happened
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Post by jackinthegreen on Dec 8, 2012 22:43:52 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 9, 2012 9:25:48 GMT
I fear you could be right. Mr Williams and the like will take priority over the headmaster.
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Post by mahoganyrush68 on Dec 13, 2012 10:21:23 GMT
Received my copy of T.A.A.B 40th anniversary edition around 3 weeks ago from the U.K. As i was about to write a review some fans suggested there were 3 glitches on dvd surround sound version at the 2 to 3 minute mark, and a couple of minutes later a similar problem occurred and my initial reaction from a fans perspective oh nooo and then some. When i popped the dvd into my bd player, i literally held my breath or not really, and to my surprise it plays perfectly, a few days later received an email from Ian,EMI, Steve, once the problem is rectified you will be notified, i guess this process will take a long time. You can check out Ian's reply on Ian Anderson/ Jethro Tull web page, hope it works out well for everyone.
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Post by hwkn on Dec 22, 2012 0:19:27 GMT
I've heard that the replacement discs are available now[people on other forums have received their replacement discs btw] now i'm wondering who to get in touch with at EMI to get one of the replacement discs.
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 22, 2012 11:56:48 GMT
I've heard that the replacement discs are available now now i'm wondering who to get in touch with at EMI to get one of the replacement discs. I'm waiting for the official emi announcement from j-tull.com. Emi are heavily involved with The Beatles' back catalogue at the moment so that would seem to take priority. However, I would expect faulty discs to be sent to a PO box address set up by emi for that very purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 14:52:58 GMT
forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/jethro-tull-thick-as-a-brick-40th-anniversary-special-edition.267638/page-28 "Hello folks - just to clarify: the replacement DVD only replaces the 5.1 streams of my TAAB mix with a flat transfer, the stereo is still in mastered form. The glitches present in the original 5.1 mastering meant that EMI had to fix them, which gave me the opportunity to also persuade them to replace the mastered version with a flat transfer (having been on tour the first time the mastering was done, so unfortunately out of the loop). As there were no glitches on the stereo there wasn't the same opportunity there. While I'm here a couple of other things to address. Somebody mentioned that I had deliberately sped up TAAB to make it sound brighter - though the conclusion (expressed as incontrovertible fact needless to say) is absurd, I can understand where the impression came from, as the remix does indeed run slightly faster towards the end. Or I should say that for the first time ever the TAAB remix runs at the *correct* speed throughout. All previous editions ran gradually slower and slower as the piece progressed, so that by the end the track is running about a third of a semitone flat / slow. We believe this was due to a fault with the tape machine used for the original mixdown. Someone also mentioned that none of my mixes are "warm" - I'm not sure if that was meant as a criticism, or just an observation, but there would certainly be some truth in this. I'm not in the habit of adding brightness to things for the sake of it (though the ones that have been mastered have gained in that area in a way I can't say I like), so what you hear is pretty close to what is on the multitrack tapes. I'm by no means an expert on the effects of the analogue process on music, having grown up with and learned my trade on digital equipment, but it has become apparent to me in comparing the original mixes with what I hear coming off the multitrack tapes, that when the original mixes were done in the 60's/70's/80's, the process of mixing through an analogue desk onto 1/4 reel to reel running at 15 inches per second appears to have usually resulted in a lot of high end roll off, above 8K especially, and then usually nothing at all above say 14K. I think that this is what many people perceive to be "warmth", but in fact it is itself a distortion and compromise of sorts, and I have yet to find any artist who does not prefer the additional clarity and air at the top end that bypassing the analogue tape mixdown stage gives the music - essentially the way they recorded it. I say this of course with the caveat that many listeners may quite legitimately prefer the sonic signature of the analogue tape high end roll off. After all, give the same piece of music to 1,000 people and ask them to EQ it they way they want it (in other words be your own mastering engineer), and you will get 1,000 different settings. Which is why I largely favour to not EQ anything too much when it comes off the tapes, to have a flat CD transfer, and for the 5.1 to be uncompressed on Blu-Ray and/or DVDA. But at the end of the day as the remix engineer, mastering approach and format is something I can only suggest to the labels and artists (which is not to say that they aren't listening, and I do think things will take a turn for the better on the next Tull release, the issues with TAAB have been noted by all involved)." "Hope that helps - best wishes for the new year!" SW Steven Wilson, Today at 7:06 AM
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 27, 2012 18:22:38 GMT
TT - thanks for posting the update from Steve Wilson. Now all we need is an address so that we can post the faulty copies back to emi and get our nice shiney new replacement copies.
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Post by hwkn on Jan 3, 2013 3:47:22 GMT
There is an email adress to get replacement discs[at least here in the US] it's emiconsumer@ emicapitol.com.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 3, 2013 8:59:19 GMT
There is an email adress to get replacement discs[at least here in the US] it's emiconsumer@emicapitol.com. Well things are starting to happen, Hoping the Uk arm of emi/capitol get their act together. Thanks for the email address hwkn
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Post by hwkn on Jan 3, 2013 18:40:31 GMT
You're welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 15:02:28 GMT
Scattered...shattered ;D www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=8228113&postcount=193Not a fan of Peter Mew's work. I'm fed up with Tull sounding too bright for my taste. Like Steven Wilson said about Aqualung, "Peter Mew seems to have added some extra brightness, around the 10-12K area - I can't say I prefer it that way, but again it's a taste thing." This time with TAAB the cymbals are destroyed in parts of the 5.1 mix. Ignoring the glitches. The 5.1 mix is a treat at lower levels. For me, less bright and it would be a perfect 5.1 experience. Subtle surround when it needs to be. Listening at a reasonable level it will do, cranked then I have a real problem with the top end. Say minor, I say major...missing the final yeah-The stereo versions are within reason. Stereo gets a pass, just. The final "Yeah" is missing from the 25th anniversary edition too. You can hear the "Yeah" on the MFSL CD. The swishy-ness is fine on the DCC (side one) & MFSL CD versions, after these no further brightness is required/needed. "And the "yeah" is back!" on the DVD 5.1. and you make all your animal deals and your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick...Yeah.Peter Mew mastering gone from DVD 5.1. (5.1 is now a flat transfer)-more replacement DVD info forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/jethro-tull-thick-as-a-brick-40th-anniversary-special-edition.267638/page-33
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Post by hwkn on Jan 17, 2013 18:26:00 GMT
I'm having trouble getting a new copy of the dvd......EMI asks for proof of purchase but the store I bought it from didn't give me a receipt.[i've emailed them several times the last one on Monday afternoon]
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 17, 2013 18:59:06 GMT
I'm having trouble getting a new copy of the dvd......EMI asks for proof of purchase but the store I bought it from didn't give me a receipt.[i've emailed them several times the last one on Monday afternoon] That seems a wee bit odd. I would have thought they would have done the same as PDO did with the "rusty cds" debacle of a few years ago and just asked people to post the faulty discs to a box number address, along with a return address, and they would send back a replacement disc - or is that far too easy ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 19:12:52 GMT
I'm having trouble getting a new copy of the dvd......EMI asks for proof of purchase but the store I bought it from didn't give me a receipt.[i've emailed them several times the last one on Monday afternoon] It can be tough without a receipt, never hopeless, we hope. Scan the defective DVD with your name/address on it. Did you name the store to EMI? (You've seen the hidden pics at QQ?) = The new DVD has a line under duration.
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Post by hwkn on Jan 17, 2013 19:49:14 GMT
Yes I named the store.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 20:26:04 GMT
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 18, 2013 0:23:35 GMT
I bought mine pre-order from the UK Amazon site. I am waiting for news from the Tull official site as to what is going to happen. I don't see the point in trying to negotiate with Amazon at this time......
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Post by hwkn on Jan 19, 2013 1:41:03 GMT
I found out that the UK adress for getting a replacement for the dvd is tulldvd@emimusic.com btw.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 19, 2013 12:50:08 GMT
I found out that the UK adress for getting a replacement for the dvd is tulldvd@emimusic.com btw. Thank you hwkn for posting the email address. I'll send off a mail today and should emi reply I'll post the results.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 18:11:03 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 21, 2013 12:36:21 GMT
I found out that the UK adress for getting a replacement for the dvd is tulldvd@emimusic.com btw. Received this from EMI today following my request for a replacement DVD. Hi Graham
Please provide proof of purchase & an address for the replacement
Kind regardsReceived the following reply from EMI Hi Graham
Many thanks, a replacement copy is now in the post to you.
Should be with you within a week – however please allow for the bad weather we currently have.
Kind regardsI sent them a copy of the receipt from Play.com and an image of my original DVD Many thanks to hwkn for supplying the email address
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Post by hwkn on Jan 21, 2013 18:40:50 GMT
When it comes to proof of purchase I could probably give them the serial code on the back of the box as proof.
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Post by tullpress on Jan 21, 2013 20:44:22 GMT
Yep, I emailed that same address this morning after the earlier post, i.e. TULLDVD@emimusic.com, received a reply within the hour, and fortunately I still had the Amazon email with confirmation of purchase and shipping, which was sufficient as a receipt ... replacement DVD now in the post.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 21, 2013 20:49:47 GMT
Just to say I've had the same brilliant result, sent an email to the link posted, and is on the Tull official site (mailto:TullDvd@emimusic.com) I attached a copy (a copy and paste) of my Amazon order and the next day had a reply saying a replacement was on it's way.. ...brilliant service... ...assuming the disc arrives..... Looking forward to playing it..........
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