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Post by jackinthegreen on Nov 19, 2021 21:39:09 GMT
And with every day being a school day, I have just discovered that Phil Collins played drums on Pussy Willow at the Prince's Trust Rock Gala in 1982. I did not know that I've never liked that performance, Ian sounds nervous or something..the vocal is not great.....
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Post by smint100 on Nov 19, 2021 23:10:05 GMT
And with every day being a school day, I have just discovered that Phil Collins played drums on Pussy Willow at the Prince's Trust Rock Gala in 1982. I did not know that I've never liked that performance, Ian sounds nervous or something..the vocal is not great..... Agreed, it's not a great performance, and Ian looks way older than his age at the time (especially when you compare him to Phil Collins who has actual hair!) I was just surprised that it had ever happened
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 20, 2021 6:55:43 GMT
I've never liked that performance, Ian sounds nervous or something..the vocal is not great..... Agreed, it's not a great performance, and Ian looks way older than his age at the time (especially when you compare him to Phil Collins who has actual hair!) I was just surprised that it had ever happened 07-Jul-1982, Princes Trust Rock Gala, England - Jethro Tull With Phil Collins
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Post by smint100 on Nov 20, 2021 10:54:52 GMT
Agreed, it's not a great performance, and Ian looks way older than his age at the time (especially when you compare him to Phil Collins who has actual hair!) I was just surprised that it had ever happened 07-Jul-1982, Princes Trust Rock Gala, England - Jethro Tull With Phil Collins Good capture! Yes, from that angle, the hair is clinging on . . . just. I wonder if he was at all jealous of Ian's luxuriant locks
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Dec 22, 2021 22:45:16 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 23, 2021 6:40:33 GMT
Sounds good to me, roll on July
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Dec 23, 2021 10:36:40 GMT
“ Beyond that I can't really comment cause we haven't had any detailed discussions about how far to go or the availability of Steven Wilson who has done all the remixes.”
Good to hear that the remix reissue programme is still a possibility beyond BATB. Probably most likely dependent on sales, of course, but I reckon the Broadsword 5.1 set is gonna SELL.
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 23, 2021 12:46:49 GMT
“ Beyond that I can't really comment cause we haven't had any detailed discussions about how far to go or the availability of Steven Wilson who has done all the remixes.” Good to hear that the remix reissue programme is still a possibility beyond BATB. Probably most likely dependent on sales, of course, but I reckon the Broadsword 5.1 set is gonna SELL. I suppose that now the series is past the era of huge sales, the powers that be must not only consider if the fan base will buy the later albums again in book style, but the quantity and quality of any out takes. It's an interesting subject to speculate. The Broadsword and the Beast (1982) - looking forward to hearing the outtakes Under Wraps (1984) - speculation persists about re-recording the drum take with a human drummer Crest of a Knave (1987) - possible but unlikely unless extra tracks ae available Rock Island (1989) Catfish Rising (1991) Roots to Branches (1995) J-Tull Dot Com (1999) The Jethro Tull Christmas Album (2003) I can't imagine the Anderson solo releases will get the treatment, but we might get a surprise or two along the way
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Post by argentull on Dec 23, 2021 14:32:22 GMT
My feeling is that IA is very fond of both UW and COAK. If Warners pushes him to do them, I think he will agree.
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 23, 2021 18:22:22 GMT
My feeling is that IA is very fond of both UW and COAK. If Warners pushes him to do them, I think he will agree. It will also be very interesting to see what Ian does with his "solo" albums. He could opt for a "toofer!" idea which Fuel did back in 2006 I suppose.
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Post by cecil on Dec 23, 2021 20:53:24 GMT
Can’t wait. Alot of the songs might sound twice as good. Lots of songs. I’m sure there will be remix sets for Under wraps and Crest.
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Post by argentull on Jan 28, 2022 21:20:48 GMT
Postponed to March 2023 according to David Rees.
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Jan 31, 2022 0:28:40 GMT
Postponed to March 2023 according to David Rees. Aw noooo! ☹️ Can I raise practical questions? 1. Delayed because they have found even more things to add to it? That’d be the very best reason to have to wait a year longer! 2. Do we know if anything else is coming out in the meantime? (A reissue of Thick As A Brick in a box set with previously unreleased associated recordings or a live gig would definitely distract me for a while!) 3. Isn’t March 2023 rather close to the release date of the next Tull album, according to A New Day and (I think) Ian Anderson himself recently?
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Post by argentull on Jan 31, 2022 7:17:51 GMT
Postponed to March 2023 according to David Rees. Aw noooo! ☹️ Can I raise practical questions? 1. Delayed because they have found even more things to add to it? That’d be the very best reason to have to wait a year longer! 2. Do we know if anything else is coming out in the meantime? (A reissue of Thick As A Brick in a box set with previously unreleased associated recordings or a live gig would definitely distract me for a while!) 3. Isn’t March 2023 rather close to the release date of the next Tull album, according to A New Day and (I think) Ian Anderson himself recently? I wish we had answers to any of your questions, Schubert...
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Post by smint100 on Jan 31, 2022 9:16:29 GMT
Postponed to March 2023 according to David Rees. Oh no! And (from the Prog Rock interview) it sounds like it's going to be excellent: "Meanwhile, as well as having a new album to promote, this year will also see a 40th anniversary reissue of 1982’s The Broadsword And The Beast, which Anderson tells us will include a great number of extra tracks from the many demos and alternate versions created during the making of it. “A lot of additional music was written and recorded,” he points out, “so it is the biggest box set ever, in terms of the actual individual number of tracks.”I think he has proposed calling it The Broadsword and the Rest
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Jan 31, 2022 10:52:19 GMT
Postponed to March 2023 according to David Rees. Oh no! And (from the Prog Rock interview) it sounds like it's going to be excellent: "Meanwhile, as well as having a new album to promote, this year will also see a 40th anniversary reissue of 1982’s The Broadsword And The Beast, which Anderson tells us will include a great number of extra tracks from the many demos and alternate versions created during the making of it. “A lot of additional music was written and recorded,” he points out, “so it is the biggest box set ever, in terms of the actual individual number of tracks.”I think he has proposed calling it The Broadsword and the Rest I suspect the delay is down to the logistics of pulling together a zillion-CD set while still retaining the slimmish book format! The Broadsword IS a Beast!
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Jan 31, 2022 11:58:23 GMT
Thinking about it a little harder, there really must be a very specific reason to delay the set by so long. How often we've had sets put back in the past but usually for only short amounts of time that were largely apparent (Heavy Horses by about a month to correct a spelling error on the cover; Stormwatch was delayed by a month on many online outlets, presumably due to supply issues, 'A' postponed for six months due to Covid) — and don't forget BATB was already delayed due to the pandemic, as it stood. You'd assume Warners might think, given a July 2022 date is no longer tenable, that they'd push for something later in the year to generate sales around Christmas. But that isn't happening either! So I'm assuming the delay is down to the actual production of the set — something may have been added that requires additional tinkering and a subsequent rethink of the content in terms of presentation.
The marketing strategists of the new label currently distributing Tull — I'm assuming — are more than aware that this new proposed date for BATB clashes with the current release date of the new 2023 album we know Ian is busy on as we speak (!), and normally any releases of brand-new product do not coincide with box set 'legacy' product as it's not clever marketing, even if the fans LOVE a bit of multiple releases in rapid succession (I remember 2014 was a particular doozy, with the box sets of A Passion Play at the front end of the year and WarChild at the rear, with the fresh joy of Homo Erraticus dropping more or less in the middle. Great times! But crucially a reasonable amount of time separating each release, enough for each to generate interest successively).
No answers indeed, I'm just wond'ring aloud here.
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Post by rainbowblue on Jan 31, 2022 14:57:11 GMT
Postponed to March 2023 according to David Rees. Oh no! And (from the Prog Rock interview) it sounds like it's going to be excellent: "Meanwhile, as well as having a new album to promote, this year will also see a 40th anniversary reissue of 1982’s The Broadsword And The Beast, which Anderson tells us will include a great number of extra tracks from the many demos and alternate versions created during the making of it. “A lot of additional music was written and recorded,” he points out, “so it is the biggest box set ever, in terms of the actual individual number of tracks.”I think he has proposed calling it The Broadsword and the Rest I don`t have a copy of "Silent Singing", but I guess the last page has the lyrics from songs on the BATB Box Set. How many extra tracks are there (not including anything from the 20 Year Box Set or Nightcap)?
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Post by stevep on Jan 31, 2022 15:38:22 GMT
Just looked and I can see new 4 songs listed on the BATB box set. "DJ Dream", "Honest Girl", "Inverness Sleeper" & "Me, Dinosaur". Will look and see if there are more listed elsewhere though. I guess the rest of the new box set will be early copies of known songs and hopefully some live versions too?
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Jan 31, 2022 17:05:03 GMT
I guess the rest of the new box set will be early copies of known songs and hopefully some live versions too? Defo live material — I'm sure I read (in A New Day?) that the semi-bootleg Freiburg 1982 gig is one set being considered for official release. Gigs were getting professionally recorded more and more by the time BATB was on the road. The third possibility is there might be the odd unreleased instrumental track — they wouldn't be listed in Silent Singing, would they? Granted, Tull aren't given to pure instrumental numbers all that often, but given the sheer number of songs we do know were recorded during the BATB sessions, it's not that unlikely either.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 31, 2022 17:28:08 GMT
I guess the rest of the new box set will be early copies of known songs and hopefully some live versions too? Defo live material — I'm sure I read (in A New Day?) that the semi-bootleg Freiburg 1982 gig is one set being considered for official release. Gigs were getting professionally recorded more and more by the time BATB was on the road. The third possibility is there might be the odd unreleased instrumental track — they wouldn't be listed in Silent Singing, would they? Granted, Tull aren't given to pure instrumental numbers all that often, but given the sheer number of songs we do know were recorded during the BATB sessions, it's not that unlikely either. www.setlist.fm/setlist/jethro-tull/1982/stadthalle-freiburg-germany-3bc78c5c.htmlbigozine2.com/roio/?p=5295
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Post by smint100 on Jan 31, 2022 17:40:30 GMT
Defo live material — I'm sure I read (in A New Day?) that the semi-bootleg Freiburg 1982 gig is one set being considered for official release. Gigs were getting professionally recorded more and more by the time BATB was on the road. The third possibility is there might be the odd unreleased instrumental track — they wouldn't be listed in Silent Singing, would they? Granted, Tull aren't given to pure instrumental numbers all that often, but given the sheer number of songs we do know were recorded during the BATB sessions, it's not that unlikely either. www.setlist.fm/setlist/jethro-tull/1982/stadthalle-freiburg-germany-3bc78c5c.htmlbigozine2.com/roio/?p=5295I've just played the Broadsword track from that list on my laptop so not exactly the best sound, but . . . Wow! Shivers down the spine and Ian's in excellent form vocally. If that's properly mastered then it would definitely be a great addition to the collection To add - the instrumental version of Pibroch was also amaaaaazing and much more bluesy than on SFTW Thanks for sharing!
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Post by rainbowblue on Jan 31, 2022 18:57:54 GMT
Just looked and I can see new 4 songs listed on the BATB box set. "DJ Dream", "Honest Girl", "Inverness Sleeper" & "Me, Dinosaur". Will look and see if there are more listed elsewhere though. I guess the rest of the new box set will be early copies of known songs and hopefully some live versions too? Thank you stevep!!!! I appreciate it. I have heard the title Inverness Sleeper and Dinosaur before, but DJ Dream and Honest Girl are new to me. In any case, four new songs plus other goodies are a Tull bonanza!!! Only 13 months to go! Now....if I can only outlive the release date
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Post by argentull on Jan 31, 2022 19:32:00 GMT
I guess the rest of the new box set will be early copies of known songs and hopefully some live versions too? Defo live material — I'm sure I read (in A New Day?) that the semi-bootleg Freiburg 1982 gig is one set being considered for official release. Gigs were getting professionally recorded more and more by the time BATB was on the road. The third possibility is there might be the odd unreleased instrumental track — they wouldn't be listed in Silent Singing, would they? Granted, Tull aren't given to pure instrumental numbers all that often, but given the sheer number of songs we do know were recorded during the BATB sessions, it's not that unlikely either. There are at least three multitracked shows that can potentially be included: Hamburg, Ravensburg and Freiburg. Why not the three of them if this is the mother of all JT box sets?
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Jan 31, 2022 20:04:56 GMT
[/quote] There are at least three multitracked shows that can potentially be included: Hamburg, Ravensburg and Freiburg. Why not the three of them if this is the mother of all JT box sets?[/quote]
I like the way you think!
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Post by greg on Feb 1, 2022 9:57:52 GMT
Did Dave definitely say the Book-Set was delayed until May 2023? I saw him quoted in a FB post as saying that, but in my copy of A New Day the relevant line is 'postponed, release date unconfirmed'
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Post by cecil on Feb 2, 2022 21:06:23 GMT
Just looked and I can see new 4 songs listed on the BATB box set. "DJ Dream", "Honest Girl", "Inverness Sleeper" & "Me, Dinosaur". Will look and see if there are more listed elsewhere though. I guess the rest of the new box set will be early copies of known songs and hopefully some live versions too? Thank you stevep!!!! I appreciate it. I have heard the title Inverness Sleeper and Dinosaur before, but DJ Dream and Honest Girl are new to me. In any case, four new songs plus other goodies are a Tull bonanza!!! Only 13 months to go! Now....if I can only outlive the release date Where you hear sleeper and dinosaur?
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Post by stevep on Feb 2, 2022 21:16:41 GMT
I do not recall hearing the name of any of the four songs mentioned prior to seeing them in the book. 'Me, Dinosaur" and "DJ dream" do not sound very Tullish to me.
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Post by rainbowblue on Feb 2, 2022 22:25:14 GMT
Thank you stevep!!!! I appreciate it. I have heard the title Inverness Sleeper and Dinosaur before, but DJ Dream and Honest Girl are new to me. In any case, four new songs plus other goodies are a Tull bonanza!!! Only 13 months to go! Now....if I can only outlive the release date Where you hear sleeper and dinosaur? Hi cecil, sorry for the confusion. I`ve have never heard those songs. I remember those songs mentioned, along with Man of God, Broadford Bazaar and others in one of my additions of A New Day. Dinosaur was described as a "rocker" with a thumping back beat and Inverness Sleeper was described as another song about trains. I`ve been looking through my issues of AND to find the exact description. Again, I apologize because I too am always looking for information about unreleased Tull material. That is why 1988 is my all-time favorite year for Tull releases with the 20th year box set. Back in "72", I was reading TAAB`s review in the St. Cleve. Chronicle and read the boys had just come back from cutting the disc for the "underground market" and thought that there were two TAAB albums. I spent the next couple of months looking in record stores in Cambridge and Boston for the underground version. One burning question for me...... will Dinosaur feed my love for old Si-Fi movies like Godzilla, Gorgo, Giant Behemoth and Beast From 20,000 Fathoms or just remind me how old I`m getting.
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Post by cecil on Feb 9, 2022 22:11:00 GMT
Where you hear sleeper and dinosaur? Hi cecil, sorry for the confusion. I`ve have never heard those songs. I remember those songs mentioned, along with Man of God, Broadford Bazaar and others in one of my additions of A New Day. Dinosaur was described as a "rocker" with a thumping back beat and Inverness Sleeper was described as another song about trains. I`ve been looking through my issues of AND to find the exact description. Again, I apologize because I too am always looking for information about unreleased Tull material. That is why 1988 is my all-time favorite year for Tull releases with the 20th year box set. Back in "72", I was reading TAAB`s review in the St. Cleve. Chronicle and read the boys had just come back from cutting the disc for the "underground market" and thought that there were two TAAB albums. I spent the next couple of months looking in record stores in Cambridge and Boston for the underground version. [img class="smile" src="//storage2.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png" alt=" "] One burning question for me...... will Dinosaur feed my love for old Si-Fi movies like Godzilla, Gorgo, Giant Behemoth and Beast From 20,000 Fathoms or just remind me how old I`m getting. All good. I read about dj and dinosaur about 20 years ago. Didn’t know about the other 2. I love Tulls non album song collection. By the time we get to the Under wraps remix we’ll have 10 extra bonus albums even without all the early versions of songs. 3/4 of these tracks are first class Tull songs with good production. That’s almost as good as the 15 albums that were released in that period. Looking forward to broadsword in July.
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