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Post by mrmarshy on Apr 7, 2011 23:33:29 GMT
Hello everyone,
I'm new here. I'm a huge fan of Tull's early-mid 70s work, particularly the albums 'Passion Play' and 'Warchild.' Earlier this week I purchased and heard 'Thick as a brick' for the first time...what a brilliant record! However, controversially, I'd still say I prefer Passion Play. Thoughts?
Tom
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 8, 2011 0:40:05 GMT
TAAB is very, very, very, very good...A Passion Play is better.
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Post by salamander on Apr 8, 2011 2:10:18 GMT
Gotta agree with Steelmonker
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Post by salamander on Apr 8, 2011 2:10:51 GMT
...Or Stelmonkey, even
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Post by salamander on Apr 8, 2011 2:11:20 GMT
Oh, I give up !!!!
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 8, 2011 5:43:07 GMT
Hello everyone, I'm new here. I'm a huge fan of Tull's early-mid 70s work, particularly the albums 'Passion Play' and 'Warchild.' Earlier this week I purchased and heard 'Thick as a brick' for the first time...what a brilliant record! However, controversially, I'd still say I prefer Passion Play. Thoughts? Tom Welcome along to the Forum TomWell you'll find a lot of agreement about Passion Play, as well as member's likes and loves of the other albums. My favourites include Passion Play, Benefit, TAAB and Crest Of A Knave and even This Was but if you have a look through the threads here you'll find a lot of the other albums marked as "favourites" by members. No one's right and no one's wrong. Cheers Maddog/Graham
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Post by onewhiteduck on Apr 8, 2011 7:24:28 GMT
Bore Da ( Good Morning ). Thick as a Brick is a very special album up there with the best Tull work. Someone ( probably more than that ) told me that they thought Dark Side of the Moon was the best album of all time. My reply was to the point .......... " it wasn't even the best f***ing album of 1973 " A Passion Play is and I hope will always be my favourite ( by anyone ) of all time.
"Take the prize for instant pleasure, captain of the cricket team public speaking in all weathers, a knighthood from a queen"
Hope I havn't started another debate!!
Hwyl ( Cheers )
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Post by hipflaskandy on Apr 8, 2011 7:36:45 GMT
My faves list (in order of pref)... Benefit/Songs from the wood/Heavy Horses - tied, equal footing then... Stand Up Thick as a brick Passion Play Crest of a Knave
But huge chunks of other albums keep hitting my weekly playlist! What a catalogue they've produced!
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Post by bunkerfan on Apr 8, 2011 9:38:10 GMT
Thick as a Brick was my first Tull concert so it's always a bit special to me, at least I managed to listen to the album a few times before going to see the mighty Jethro Tull as they where then at Stockton. I also love A passion Play but remember not having the album before going down to The Empire Pool Wembley to the concert, nobody seemed to have a clue what it was all about but Tull were great that night. Was A Passion Play released after that date? I seem to remember having trouble getting hold of the Under Wraps album before the concert at Hammersmith Odeon also. Any idea anyone
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 8, 2011 12:15:18 GMT
Quit lying to people, Maddog...the best Tull album is A Passion Play...this is not an objective question...it is a simple, unchangeable fact...people who think otherwise are Ronnie Wrong of the Wrongville Wrongsteins....clear? Forum members and readers who agree...congratulations on accepting the obvious....those who disagree: snap out of it....you're embarrassing the rest of us.
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Post by tullist on Apr 8, 2011 14:53:55 GMT
Bernie, you know I love you, respect your passions for the Passion Play etc, but the precursor, Chateau D'isaster remains very much the superior of the quickly assembled Play, remembering more the crucial Tull elements of humor and melody. Possibly had my seat been better for the actual show I would think otherwise, but I doubt it, and maybe if I had not seen them already at 3 to 4 times the level of entertainment the prior year I would think otherwise. Passion Play was the first time for me, as a live performance, where I ran into the perception, encountered several times in the seventies when my seats were not perfect, that they were attempting to communicate with the rock and roll gumbas as the bass would thunder thru the sports arenas, in part recucing Tull to just another band. Thick as a Brick remains unchallenged on all levels as the Tull masterpiece, only Songs From The Wood is a signifigant challenger. ( And for what its worth, which I understand is nothing, I believe Ian Anderson agrees with me) I don't think its an accident that Passion Play and Baker St Muse have not been included in live performance, too much excess fat. But admittedly this comes from someone who considers the Passion Jig to be Passion Plays superior, and someone who may well consider the Christmas album to be the third best in the catalogue, so, a huge grain of salt to be sure. 1973? I sure would toss Wake of the Flood, in the running for the best Grateful Dead studio record, the second Weather Report album, engagingly titled Weather Report, Sun Ra's Space is the Place, Miles Davis Dark Magus, Renaissance Ashes are Burning and an honorable mention to Joni Mitchell Court and Spark. 2 more to add to that list of honor, and probably alot more when I think about it are Fairport Nine and Steeleye Span's Parcel of Rogues.
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 8, 2011 15:30:24 GMT
And they say 'Hey
Well, it is possible that the double album planned between TAAB and APP, which we have in skeletal, shadow and mix and match form, would have turned out to be the best Tull ever...it is still apples and oranges to toss that in the best album debate. I've gotten a big dose of Wake lately...especially via a boot CD that finds the second part of 'weather report suite' in the first set ( morning comes...) and prelude and the first part in the second set....you think that really happened at a gig or is my unlabeled CD someone's try at a compilation?
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Post by tullist on Apr 8, 2011 16:14:41 GMT
Anything is possible with those guys, and particularly if it predates the actual release of the record. In particular, Weir's songs were often or even always brought to the stage in less than complete form.. And that morning comes part, aka Let It Grow, was the one part that remained in the set for all the years following, although the various post Jerry Dead, Other Ones, Furthur, Ratdog, Phil and Friends etc have been re investigating the whole Suite, not to mention nearly everything else in the catalogue that Jerry no longer wanted to do. And since I believe Weir sings that entire suite it nearly certainly was the construct of he and his longtime buddy and lyricist John Barlow.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 8, 2011 17:44:17 GMT
aww Sal don't do that ;D
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 8, 2011 17:48:18 GMT
Quit lying to people, Maddog...the best Tull album is A Passion Play...this is not an objective question...it is a simple, unchangeable fact...people who think otherwise are Ronnie Wrong of the Wrongville Wrongsteins....clear? Forum members and readers who agree...congratulations on accepting the obvious....those who disagree: snap out of it....you're embarrassing the rest of us. You're only saying that because I'm allied to Canada at the moment Us Commonwealth countries have got to stick together.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 8, 2011 17:53:29 GMT
as far as choosing btw TAAB or APP well it all comes down to.... tartan. He wore tartan in TAAB Are we not just the teensy weensy bit biased on a JT Forum as regards what was the best album say btw Dark Side or TAAB as memory serves it was and always will be firstly down to good marketing. When Dark side was just coming out there was a quite substantial pre marketing for it certainly by 70's standards, everyone waited with baited breath for the release - the same with Mike and his Bells but I don't remember too much furore for a Tull release certainly amongst non or luke warm Tull fans. And I hate to say it but I think if your into popularity contests Dark Side is classic vintage amongst the young uns - in general
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Post by Essan on Apr 9, 2011 12:28:23 GMT
TAAB is the greatest song ever written. Since no other album can therefore contain any song better than TAAB, and since TAAB takes up the whole of an album, the album TAAB must, by definition, be the greatest album of all time. QED And anyone who disagrees is clearly American
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 9, 2011 13:41:55 GMT
And what's APP? chopped liver? Although I agree that TAAB is the SECOND best song/Album ever...it is clear from the encrypted code in the initials TAAB that anyone who thinks it is better than APP is clearly....TALIBAN
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