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Post by futureshock on Jan 29, 2011 21:26:27 GMT
Out of all the Tullies past and present, which are the 5 you consider to be the most effective creative collaborators to match with Ian Anderson?
My selection: M. Barre, A. Giddings, B. Barlow, D. Pegg, Doane Perry.
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Post by corner of the sphere on Jan 30, 2011 8:35:33 GMT
Only Giddings from the above for me. Although Andy Giddings' collaboration was acknowledged for Divinities this direction seems to have been a dead end and I don't think his collaboration was as effective these:
David Palmer's collaboration can be seen in the more complicated music and rhythms and the classical interludes in Songs From The Wood. His long association with Tull is evidence of his effectiveness. His further influence may be seen in Ian's orchestral Tull phase which came awhile after David's earlier Classic Case orchestral arrangements and the Water's Edge ballet music collaboration.
Another influence around SFTW time was Steeleye Span. Here the collaboration mainly involved Ian's production assistance with the band and Maddy Prior. However I think Ian came away with a new folky musical vision. This was later bolstered with more complicated eastern European influenced rhythms featured by Andy Irvine and Davy Spillane as heard in Eurology.
Peter-John Vettese collaborated in three albums; Walk Into Light, The Broadsword And The Beast and Under Wraps, all with acknowledged or shared music writing credits. That's a pretty effective contribution.
I think it's odd that Dave Pegg and Ian didn't collaborate in writing music although Dave probably had an influence in the acoustic direction that was A Little Light Music and Catfish Rising.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 30, 2011 10:45:48 GMT
Out of all the Tullies past and present, which are the 5 you consider to be the most effective creative collaborators to match with Ian Anderson? My selection: M. Barre, A. Giddings, B. Barlow, D. Pegg, Doane Perry. Acknowledging that Martin's part in the story of Tull and his collaboration with IA are above reproach, my five would be Clive Bunker Glenn Cornick(both for their musicianship and their forging of a unique partnership at the very start of the JT story) Peter Vettese David Palmer John Evans(for their obvious talents as musicians and the ability to add texture to the compositions of IA, transforming perhaps "rough diamonds" into things of beauty)
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 30, 2011 17:36:58 GMT
I'd say Palmer in a class of his own: a teacher and alchemist, Vettesse: the right guy at the right time for true collaboration, Giddings, Barre and in another class of one, Hammond-Hammond from an artistic and emotional sphere......5 seems like the right number for this topic historically but I also think right now Ohare, Florian and Goodier are more collaborative than countless earlier sidemen.
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Post by vanini on Feb 4, 2011 17:29:14 GMT
I agree about D. Palmer who was a background member of the band from the start, his orchestrations are superb. Clive Bunker & Glenn Cornick were a great rhythm section on the early stuff but I couldn't imagine them playing on the albums after Aqualung. Jeffrey was brilliant on stage & added the arty element but I reckon John Glasscock & Barrie Barlow were the best musically when you look at the albums they contributed to & were really together live. I remember reading an interview with IA just after SFTW was released & he said that at those sessions he'd leave the studio & the band would come up with suggestions for arrangements which was a departure from the norm & I think the following albums were recorded in a similar way with the band having more input. Although Dave Pegg's a great player I felt John G had more stage presence and suited the"look" of the band more & his recordings with the band are superior to Dave's. Since the old boys departed I think other members input with the exception of Martin Barre, Andy Giddings (Divinities) & Peter Vetesse who gave the band a bit of a recording spurt with the Broadsword sessions & contributed the most in writing & arrangements in IA's electronic phase has been limited. Doane's a superb player but hasn't had the opportunity to leave his mark as recording hasn't been as constant as in Barrie's day! Even though Barrie reckons he overplayed it fits the music perfectly & technically his playing is fabulous. So my choice is John Evan, John Glasscock, Barrie Barlow, the ever present Martin Barre & in the background David Palmer.
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