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Post by futureshock on Dec 2, 2010 8:05:54 GMT
Many quite accomplished lead artists or band members have secondary bands that they sometimes work with. Except Ian Anderson and Martin Barre, so far. Both have done one-off side projects but not substantial secondary band projects.
Thinking the likes of the Traveling Wilburys. "Wings" vs McCartney solo. Jerry Garcia and "Old and In The Way" folk group. There are many examples. Different and less constrained teams and different results.
So, what other musicians would you suggest would be a good match for Ian Anderson and Martin Barre as their secondary bands when Tull isn't touring and Ian Anderson solo gigs aren't on?
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Post by nonrabbit on Dec 2, 2010 8:36:18 GMT
very very good thread opens up all lines of investigation Ian as you say has done guest appearances eg with Uriah Heep ( think that's a class flute contribution there in a wonderful cheesy video) imo he would always look like the "special guest" when he plays with another band so I take it you mean that he would have a contribution to the writing of the second band etc. The concept of supergroups too has had a poor track record so maybe it would be with fairly unknown musicians? and then to add to the question would the music be more folk?jazz? rock? and something completely new for him. Also I can see Martin blending better with another band rather than Ian. Thinking caps on....
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 2, 2010 9:09:03 GMT
An extremely original and highly thought provoking idea Futureshock. I assume money will be of no object etc ;D Will get my thinking cap on
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Post by futureshock on Dec 3, 2010 4:44:16 GMT
I guess I did have some presumptions. For Ian, it would have to be interesting, but a collaborative with a dynamic mix of involvement. Obviously for Ian it can't be "Ian writes it all" again or it's just more Ian solo or Tull. And it doesn't count if Ian is just a guest on a few songs. His place would have to be interesting in the mix of things, and that's why I mentioned the Traveling Wilbury's as an example; not too many rules or people, good collaborations.
For Martin, the same. It has to be a collaborative effort, not another Martin Barre project, and not just active guest. I'm at a loss for who to match Martin with, but something creative within a certain discipline for sure, as Martin is a craftsman. Loads of options, really.
For both, the pressure would certainly be OFF on this, it would be for fun and some professional explorations, not a serious career shift or financial worry. Can't be. But who knows what can happen when the chemistry and components work.
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Post by nonrabbit on Dec 3, 2010 8:21:16 GMT
I like the way that both Ian and Martin collaborate with young and up and coming acts. I imagine that they would be a really good mentors and wise men to them Martin with Dan Crisp/Joss Stone etc and Ian with his young ladies Would be a good idea to bring in a female vocalist with Ian's fictional second band even if it wasn't Bush/Amos or Saori Jo who imo is a bit too "breathless" what about a more rockier/folky singer like.........
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 3, 2010 9:00:45 GMT
OK, here's my starter for ten.
Ian Anderson - flute, acoustic guitar, vocals etc. Richard Thompson - guitar, vocals Dave Pegg - bass, mandolin Maartin Allcock - everything including wash basin & stand Dave Mattacks - drums, keyboards Andy Giddings - keyboards
All contributing to new songs and instrumentals with a smattering of celtic influenced music, both traditional and contemporary.
Have to think harder with Martin Barre's second band.
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Post by nonrabbit on Dec 3, 2010 9:23:12 GMT
hmmm no boss I have to disagree (there goes the Xmas bonus) thats not a radical enough line up. and this is where the thread subject gets a bit perplexing given that Ian was the madonna of prog rock is he now too long in the tooth - music/composing wise to make a radical shift albeit as a hobby band ? Also is it easier for a non composing musician to make a change like eg Plant and his bluegrass? If he did - what kind of sound would the band have? What name?
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Post by nonrabbit on Dec 3, 2010 9:40:51 GMT
what about Katy Perry blasting out a new Ian Anderson song? ;D
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 3, 2010 18:55:48 GMT
hmmm no boss I have to disagree (there goes the Xmas bonus) thats not a radical enough line up. Don't do "radical" these days. Prefer the comfy chair and slippers. My thoughts are that neither does IA do "radical" anymore so that any musical collective would have to be in his comfort zone. Would still pay good money to see him team up with Richard Thompson. Btw, annual bonus still intact.
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Post by nonrabbit on Dec 4, 2010 10:06:20 GMT
hmmm no boss I have to disagree (there goes the Xmas bonus) thats not a radical enough line up. Don't do "radical" these days. Prefer the comfy chair and slippers. My thoughts are that neither does IA do "radical" anymore so that any musical collective would have to be in his comfort zone. Would still pay good money to see him team up with Richard Thompson. Btw, annual bonus still intact. I'll accept your Richard Thompson only if they play Beeswing with a flute and guitar jam somewhere maybe not in the middle but at the end of the song? and I'll also accept your generous annual bonus ;D
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