What do you folks think of the new guys in the band? I personally dont think much of any of them - pretty weak tea given the quality of the past musicians imho. Hope this does not offend anybody. If so, sorry.
I had the pleasure of meeting both John and David in Lancaster last September. Both gave me the time of day and engaged in conversation. Both have a very dry sense of humour. Saw them play with JT a few times - it took me a few gigs to get used to them being in the band but I think both do a very good job and are certainly up for the challenge.
I think it's always a difficult job for new guys to make their own mark on whatever it is they do in the band. having seen them both a few times now I am warming to both David Goodier & john O Hara.
I think John was a wee bit lacking in the performance side when he first joined and thought his performances were solid but very much like a hired musician rather than a band member but from what I've seen recently he has been getting into the spirit of a Tull show as well as playing his stuff good too. I very much enjoyed his accordion playing and percussion dueling with Doane this tour, I'd like to see him ham it up even more in the future! Looking at his CV he's certainly no slouch when it comes to musicianship but he does seem to be a bit more subtle in his playing style as apposed to Andy Giddings big grandiose style so I guess that's just down to taste.
David Goodier I think has possibly the hardest job when it comes to making his mark, the bass guitar tends to be in the background for most of the time, but again he appears to be an excellent musician (he's always been note perfect when I've seen him)
Perhaps it would have helped them to become part Tull from the fans point of view if they were in some way officially introduced as new members of the band, as it is they seemed to drift into Tull from IA's solo band which maybe just blurred the lines between the two a bit?
We all used to watch the creators of the music on stage. Now, mostly not so. Judge the new guys on their musical projection (performance) ability, they didn't write the stuff. Sometimes I have ADD but not right now, so believe me, I've thought a great deal of this and I'm lying to you.
Time flies when you're having fun...and, when you get to a certain age, even when you aren't ! Did Goodier and O'hare start with orchestral Ian that long ago? (2002, 2003) Jeez...no wonder my infant is going to kindergarden.
As far as I'm concerned, Doane is a new guy...started a few tours/albums ago after the drummer for a day period of Craney/Conway/Burgess didn't he? (1984)...he seems to be getting the hang of it: nice and loud when it's rock and reasonably nimble on the Mother-Goose type songs. Mattacks...on the one tour he did, was not memorable...rather straight-forward and bland...James Duncan and Mark Mondesir are certainly acceptable, highly talented fill-ins when health or distance prevents Doane from attending.
O Boy Mr B, something to disagree about with u in my online moment here in the library,with respect of course. I, ever since the year he spent with Tull, find myself trying to disinclude Mattacks as being the best Tull drummer ever, as he was never really a member, i hate to favor him over Clive, Barrie and Doane, but sorry, I do. Admittedly he came to his tenure as an article long since proven to me, but I am speaking specifically as a Tull drummer, I found him marvelous, in particular his interplay with Pegg on the instrumental sections of LITP and Beggars Farm dropped my freaking jaw, plus Tull swinging, pretty cool. Plus i do have a prediliction towards drum kits as opposed to drum battaries, unless Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzman or Airto Moreira, or Famoudu Don Moye are sitting behind them, and that is something Mattacks provided. Plus I consider it no disgrace to take a slight backseat to Mattacks, as I consider him the superior of more legendary guys like Ginger Baker or John Bonham. He is just a tasteful player, who still understands power, and one of the few rockish guys who I would say bear comparison with Max Roach, Blakey and to many other jazz monsters to name. Mattacks gets that even in rock, less is usually more. Still I want Barrie to be my favorite, a dichotomy. God knows I love Doane. Also Mark Mondesir shot right up the ranks with me, certainly the player most similar to Mattacks. All done.
Who had the wayback machine? Sherman and peabody ?....I would climb in and re-visit the two gigs i saw with mattacks: one in SF, one in Seattle...and re-assess my not remembering anything special about him as a drummer....That was the week, I think, that it was clear my marriage had hit rocks and shattered...a bad time except the light and dark tour. I thought Mondesir was amazing...
chester: I know that I am late to the idea, but I have started wearing a mask while out in public. My Canadian officials have changed their stance from: not recommended to mildly suggested to strongly advised.
May 22, 2020 9:42:52 GMT
steelmonkey: Not only am I doing a zoom meeting in nice shirt and boxer shorts...I am ignoring boss and reading Tull news.
May 27, 2020 21:58:08 GMT
chester: It looks like- with people going back to their jobs- the number of daily guests on the JT Forum has gone back down to the 500s range, instead of the 600s and even 700s.
May 31, 2020 17:57:59 GMT
maddogfagin: Still a more than healthy number of visitors although it's difficult to know what percentage of google "bots" trawl forums doing whatever they do - anyone know what "bots" actually do ?
Jun 1, 2020 13:57:36 GMT
rredmond: I thought they gathered information for search engines?
Jun 2, 2020 13:07:30 GMT
maddogfagin: Would that be general info or searches into users details, passwords etc ?
Jun 3, 2020 7:06:57 GMT
rredmond: I think they just troll around the boards gathering public information. If you shut them down, then things like google searches will find the forums less. The more info you have out there the easier it is to be found... whether for good or for bad.
Jun 5, 2020 0:19:08 GMT
rredmond: So the Google will find any searches for Jethro Tull forums or proboards. But if someone searched to figure out what Barriemore Barlow's favorite Tull song is, it wouldn't have that information. So they wouldn't know it was Mouse Police.
Jun 5, 2020 0:22:38 GMT
rredmond: I help run a couple D&D forums, and when one of them stopped allowing the bots, his forum went from like page 1 of the searches, to way down in the pack.
Jun 5, 2020 0:23:17 GMT
maddogfagin: I wonder how many of the so called bots are actually the tull trolls instead
Jun 7, 2020 7:04:47 GMT
futureshock: Here's wishing everyone persistent health! Times are getting more optimistic! Activism is UP, and fear of getting involved in important issues, is dropping faster than the Vegas odds on Trump being elected again. Cheers!
Jun 7, 2020 23:10:01 GMT
maddogfagin: Thanks futureshock - hope you're ok likewise
Jun 8, 2020 15:01:16 GMT
stormsongs: Hi. Newbie, first time here as I have a question I can't get an answer to......I have a vivid memory of buying Lifes a Long Song in 71 and it had a gatefold sleeve....but I can't find any evidence of that or a copy with that sleeve...
Jun 12, 2020 14:25:44 GMT
maddogfagin: Welcome to the JT Forum stormsongs. Not seen a UK Life is a long song gatefold sleeve but there's no doubting they may have been some overseas releases issued this way.
Jun 13, 2020 6:14:41 GMT
futureshock: So, IF you are musical yourself, what are you doing with the CoronaCoda lockdown experience and maybe extra personal time available to find or create more music, or explore instrument playing? How has dealing with musicians changed? Gigs? Spinoff ideas?
Jun 14, 2020 23:01:49 GMT
maddogfagin: Listening to a lot of concert recordings via CD and finding some great music on youtube which I've never heard before. My days of playing guitar are behind me these days due to my damn fingers not wanting to work properly.
Jun 15, 2020 6:37:05 GMT
steelmonkey: Would you like to hear a perfectly constructed, note,rhythm,lyrical and atmosphere piece of Tull perfection? Yes? Try 'Saboteur' on 'Under Wraps'. Flawless.
Jun 22, 2020 21:05:43 GMT
maddogfagin: Under Wraps is an often maligned album by a minority but to the majority it stands amongst the finest of their eighties output. A great album.
Jun 28, 2020 6:43:28 GMT
steelmonkey: Under Wraps is sui generis. Strong everything. Something(s) about it amaze and astound with each listen.
Jun 28, 2020 19:30:42 GMT