jason
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Post by jason on Mar 24, 2010 20:22:36 GMT
What do you folks think of the new guys in the band? I personally dont think much of any of them - pretty weak tea given the quality of the past musicians imho. Hope this does not offend anybody. If so, sorry.
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spenny
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Post by spenny on Mar 24, 2010 20:43:00 GMT
I had the pleasure of meeting both John and David in Lancaster last September. Both gave me the time of day and engaged in conversation. Both have a very dry sense of humour. Saw them play with JT a few times - it took me a few gigs to get used to them being in the band but I think both do a very good job and are certainly up for the challenge.
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2010 21:08:07 GMT
I think it's always a difficult job for new guys to make their own mark on whatever it is they do in the band. having seen them both a few times now I am warming to both David Goodier & john O Hara.
I think John was a wee bit lacking in the performance side when he first joined and thought his performances were solid but very much like a hired musician rather than a band member but from what I've seen recently he has been getting into the spirit of a Tull show as well as playing his stuff good too. I very much enjoyed his accordion playing and percussion dueling with Doane this tour, I'd like to see him ham it up even more in the future! Looking at his CV he's certainly no slouch when it comes to musicianship but he does seem to be a bit more subtle in his playing style as apposed to Andy Giddings big grandiose style so I guess that's just down to taste.
David Goodier I think has possibly the hardest job when it comes to making his mark, the bass guitar tends to be in the background for most of the time, but again he appears to be an excellent musician (he's always been note perfect when I've seen him)
Perhaps it would have helped them to become part Tull from the fans point of view if they were in some way officially introduced as new members of the band, as it is they seemed to drift into Tull from IA's solo band which maybe just blurred the lines between the two a bit?
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Post by parkbench on Mar 25, 2010 9:51:29 GMT
John O'Hara was excellent last night at Brum - his piano playing really added a lot to songs like "Life's a long song" and keyboard playing was nice and beefy on "Nothing in Easy".
Dave Goodier appeared to having a great time as well.
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Post by conundrum on Apr 11, 2010 1:44:02 GMT
I am not familiar with them but wish them all the best and welcome them. Also, I am very happy that Doane is still in the band. Didn't he leave at one point a few years ago for a very short time?
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Post by futureshock on Sept 21, 2010 12:34:04 GMT
We all used to watch the creators of the music on stage. Now, mostly not so. Judge the new guys on their musical projection (performance) ability, they didn't write the stuff. Sometimes I have ADD but not right now, so believe me, I've thought a great deal of this and I'm lying to you.
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tommie
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Post by tommie on Sept 21, 2010 17:42:24 GMT
The "NEW" guys in the band?! "NEW?" !!!! They've been involved for 8 YEARS and 7 YEARS respectively. If that's "new" to you guys, well........
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tommie
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Post by tommie on Sept 21, 2010 17:44:31 GMT
You guys need to get out more, see more shows, be exposed to different bands, etc
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 22, 2010 23:42:12 GMT
Time flies when you're having fun...and, when you get to a certain age, even when you aren't ! Did Goodier and O'hare start with orchestral Ian that long ago? (2002, 2003) Jeez...no wonder my infant is going to kindergarden.
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tommie
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Post by tommie on Sept 24, 2010 15:01:43 GMT
haha
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 24, 2010 15:17:19 GMT
As far as I'm concerned, Doane is a new guy...started a few tours/albums ago after the drummer for a day period of Craney/Conway/Burgess didn't he? (1984)...he seems to be getting the hang of it: nice and loud when it's rock and reasonably nimble on the Mother-Goose type songs. Mattacks...on the one tour he did, was not memorable...rather straight-forward and bland...James Duncan and Mark Mondesir are certainly acceptable, highly talented fill-ins when health or distance prevents Doane from attending.
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tullist
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Post by tullist on Sept 25, 2010 16:53:07 GMT
O Boy Mr B, something to disagree about with u in my online moment here in the library,with respect of course. I, ever since the year he spent with Tull, find myself trying to disinclude Mattacks as being the best Tull drummer ever, as he was never really a member, i hate to favor him over Clive, Barrie and Doane, but sorry, I do. Admittedly he came to his tenure as an article long since proven to me, but I am speaking specifically as a Tull drummer, I found him marvelous, in particular his interplay with Pegg on the instrumental sections of LITP and Beggars Farm dropped my freaking jaw, plus Tull swinging, pretty cool. Plus i do have a prediliction towards drum kits as opposed to drum battaries, unless Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzman or Airto Moreira, or Famoudu Don Moye are sitting behind them, and that is something Mattacks provided. Plus I consider it no disgrace to take a slight backseat to Mattacks, as I consider him the superior of more legendary guys like Ginger Baker or John Bonham. He is just a tasteful player, who still understands power, and one of the few rockish guys who I would say bear comparison with Max Roach, Blakey and to many other jazz monsters to name. Mattacks gets that even in rock, less is usually more. Still I want Barrie to be my favorite, a dichotomy. God knows I love Doane. Also Mark Mondesir shot right up the ranks with me, certainly the player most similar to Mattacks. All done.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 25, 2010 20:39:59 GMT
Who had the wayback machine? Sherman and peabody ?....I would climb in and re-visit the two gigs i saw with mattacks: one in SF, one in Seattle...and re-assess my not remembering anything special about him as a drummer....That was the week, I think, that it was clear my marriage had hit rocks and shattered...a bad time except the light and dark tour. I thought Mondesir was amazing...
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