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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 18, 2011 9:37:16 GMT
Read somewhere that Ian may have sang with Johnny Breeze and the Atlantics either prior to the Smash or as a one off. Anyone know if this is true? Also came upon this site which has great detail on the early Manchester music scene with a great pic of Glenn when with the Hobos www.manchesterbeat.com/groups/hobos2/hobos.phpThis is the Pete Frame style family tree that Martin Webb produced for the John Evan Band "Live '66" release issued by A New Day back in 1990. All credit to MW for his research with this. Plus there's this photo of Johnny Breeze and the Atlantics from the Manchesterbeat site www.manchesterbeat.com
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 29, 2011 18:52:43 GMT
'Twas rummaging through some boxes in the garage and came across a floppy disc (remember them?) and on it was this following. I've no idea where I got it from or where it was from - some help needed here folks Sound Advice
by Dan Amrich "You like Jethro Tull?" I wheeled around to see a teenager in a Metallica T-shirt glaring at me. I had no idea who he was, or how he knew I was a Tull fan. Caught off guard, I replied, "Yeah."
"You suck," came the reply, and the kid wandered off.
Stuff like this has happened to me since 1988, when Jethro Tull's Crest of a Knave album won a controversial Grammy award for Best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Performance. Since then, bitter fans of Metallica, the expected winner that year, occasionally approach and insult me. The bands themselves played a childish game of "can you top this" in the press for over a year after the incident, encouraging public taunting to new heights. Metallica went on to win the next three years' worth of Heavy Metal Grammies, but occasionally one of the groups will slander their rival, leading to a new round of ridicule.
This stunning example of musical illiteracy is scary and sad. There are many people who listen to only one genre, and rarely acknowledge other forms of music. And this is not an isolated occurrence-in no way do I mean to single out Metallica fans as being particularly close-minded.
If a classical piece was written after 1789, most symphonic supporters won't touch it. Top 40 listeners have little exposure outside of pop, and many listeners whose age tops 40 think that most of today's music is trash. What's worse, some of the artists themselves have poor attitudes and, whether they know it or not, pass those views on to their fans. Musicians may be bringing about the end of music.
There are, thankfully, some exceptions. Ask some metal bands who their influences are, and many will admit Beethoven or Mozart. Speed metal artists like Yngwie Malmsteen tend to prefer Paganini. Eddie Van Halen, rock guitar god, is trained as a classical pianist. Leonard Bernstein and Bing Crosby both sang the praises of the Beatles. They all realized that being open-minded and listening to other music is vitally important to the survival of their art. Every single artist has an influence, and many are eager to share them. The problem is, many readers and fans don't take the time to discover what moves their favorite artist to create. It's a question of musical evolution, and there's a lot to be learned from history.
So how did it happen? Why don't people listen to everything that's out there? Part of the blame goes to radio. Top 40, Album-Oriented, Middle of the Road, Alternative, Country-each radio station has a set format, never straying from one type of music for fear of losing advertising dollars. Most contemporary radio is geared toward the younger generation, and as a result, some kids grow up never knowing about Verdi, Gershwin, or even Lennon & McCartney.
Yet ask the average young person "What are you into?" and they'll reply, "Everything." Ask to see their collection of CDs and tapes, though, and it's often a different story. There's no jazz, classical, or big band.
Rather, ask those people "What do you buy?" and you will probably get the truth. Madonna, Guns 'N' Roses, Public Enemy, Marky Mark. Sometimes even that can be boiled down to one or two of the artist's singles.
Music has, sadly, become a passive medium. The radio is taken for granted, always there; as a result, people are less critical consumers. People hear music, but rarely listen. Songs succeed regardless of musical merit; what gets played on the radio the most is what sells. Anything that's not rock, pop, or rap is delegated to smaller stations on the dial, and can't compete in the larger market.
Another personal anecdote. A few years ago I found myself in Scotland. Being in the vicinity of several tourist traps inspired me to while away long hours on the bus (sorry, "coach") rediscovering some of the UK's rich musical heritage. One night I entered a small pub and started talking music with the locals. The inevitable "What are you into?" came up, and I responded with what I had just heard: "Beatles, Tull, stuff like that."
"Man, that's old! Ancient!" sneered my accented host.
Slightly offended, I retorted, "Well, what do you listen to?"
"Sam Cooke, Ben E. King..." The British pop charts were full of 50s and 60s soul, and everything old was new again. So it wasn't just an American radio thing, I mused. Radio dictates people's narrow listening habits worldwide.
The last bastions of radio diversity are National Public Radio and college stations. Both are committed to broadcasting rarely heard material, NPR concentrating on the old, and college stations concentrating on the new. They're to be applauded for not playing the same old thing. The key, I'll cynically point out, is money. Neither format has its major funding come from advertising dollars. They can truly afford to take the risk.
What about grade school? Isn't there some sort of musical appreciation thing going on in schools? I remember mine. In first grade, every other Friday, we'd listen to jazz, classical, rock, and pop, and then discuss it. After that, there was one instance in sixth grade where we all got to bring in our favorite albums and play them for the class, sharing our tastes to broaden everyone's.
That's it. Twice. It's assumed that if you have an interest in music (or any of the arts, really) it will show itself, and you can be taught to develop your inherent musicality or whatever. But for people who choose playing the stereo over playing the saxophone, there is no guidance. After age 13, you're left to the whims of MTV programmers.
Parents are the only ones who can encourage schools to be more active in their children's musical development. The Parents Music Resource Center, a pressure group famous for battles to put warning labels on music, would do better spending their time lobbying school boards instead of Congress. The ever-outspoken Frank Zappa suggested in The Real Frank Zappa Book that if parents "believe [their children] should be exposed to something more uplifting than [the explicit Sheena Easton hit] "Sugar Walls," [they should] support Music Appreciation programs in schools. Your children have a right to know that something other than pop music exists."
All the money and energy spent on such bickering could have been spared by parents simply sitting down and finding out what kind of music their kids like. Alas, music has become an individual experience; adults don't share their music with their children, and kids often don't think that Mom and Dad are interested in what they listen to.
On the opposite side of the coin-kids, go play your tapes for your parents! You'd be amazed. My mom thought anything I listened to was "screaming." She heard Eric Clapton once without knowing who it was, fell in love, and has yet to return part of my E.C. collection. Meanwhile, she bought me the Les Paul box set.
This is not to say that everyone must listen to everything and like it; that's ridiculous. But there needs to be a more open-minded attitude. Listeners should be willing to accept that there is more to music than what they've heard. Borrow from a friend, raid old record shops, turn the dial. Try something you don't think you'll like. You could be right. But even for that experience, you'll be a better educated listener.
Still, I know a bunch of people who honestly have Jaco Pastorius next to Pearl Jam and Procol Harum in their collections. You could be such a person. Are you? Find out.
TEST YOUR MUSICAL LITERACY
For the following questions, give yourself one point for each artist named. Can you name:
1) Five classical composers whose life stories were not made into a major motion picture?
2) Five jazz artists who are not the bandleaders for late-night television shows?
3) Four rock & roll bands that you did not dismiss as "just noise?"
4) Four alternative artists? (The Cure and the B-52's don't count)
5) Three honest-to-goodness blues artists, other than Robert Johnson?
6) Any three non-British international artists who have not been helped by David Byrne or Paul Simon? (Ixnay on Bob Marley or anyone who worked on the Amnesty International tour)
7) Besides the Yankovic clan, one polka artist?
A perfect score is 25; be proud of 20 or above. I had trouble coming up with all the answers, and I wrote the questions. Just proves there's always room for expansion. If you get 8 or below, it's time to try something new. Maybe do some research into your favorite artist and find out what sources they draw on. You may not like everything you hear, but being musically literate helps you know why.
Dan Amrich is the same musically-opinionated yahoo who's appeared in the last four issues of 14850 Magazine.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 18, 2011 23:01:42 GMT
Anyone any info on the photoshoot/s on LITP love to know in particular where the putting green was? ;D i55.images obliterated by tinypic/alq179.jpg[/IMG]
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 19, 2011 7:46:23 GMT
Anyone any info on the photoshoot/s on LITP love to know in particular where the putting green was? ;D i55.images obliterated by tinypic/alq179.jpg [/IMG][/quote] California? Bernie might know - don't think it was in Canada
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 19, 2011 15:53:58 GMT
Ahh right didn't know our Bernie was the crazy golf enthusiast i52.images obliterated by tinypic/mu7s3p.gif[/IMG]
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 19, 2011 15:54:54 GMT
As I equate Golf with republicans, suburbia, water waste, a non-descript german car and general WASPiness, I'm out of my scope to identify the venue !
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 20, 2011 18:13:55 GMT
I can't find anything out about the photoshoot location or photographer? ?? Help Don't tell me I have to wait till June 2012 and " LITP - A New Compilation - Recompilation - The Second Compilation" (?)
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 28, 2011 12:24:09 GMT
Found the names of the photographers who are featured on the album photo album;
Ruan O'Lochlainn - Photography Ed Caraeff - Photography Tony Lowe - Photography Brian Ward - Photography Sam Emerson - Photography Michael Graber - Photography Jackie O'Lachlainn - Photography
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 11, 2011 9:57:35 GMT
Came across this Aussie blog of Tull cliche's which maybe takes the prize of using them all in one fairly short article however was it true that Ian walked out of the Grammar school for that reason and if so at what age?
CREATIVE INFLUENCES WEEK 24 - THEY’LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM
Scotsman, Ian Scott Anderson, was crowned a one percenter and destined for greatness after being asked to leave his grammer school for refusing to submit to corporal punishment.
This war child let his passion play and went on to be a founding member of Jethro Tull (named after the 18th-century agriculturist by one of the booking agents’ staff). Never Living in the Past, Ian Scott Anderson has been pushing the Jethro Tull ship over the crest of the progressive rock wave for over 44 years, fully exploring the mineral compounds of all kinds of rock whether it be hard, electronic, progressive or folk.
This Original Master strikesa chord close to our heart with his exploration of stage out fits that have habitually drawn inspiration from British folklore – at different times deploying stylistic elements of mediaeval jester, Elizabethan minstrel, English country squire and Scottish laird – at other times he has appeared as astronaut, biker, vagrant and wait for it… Pirate! Given that he also tends to play the flute standing on one leg and has been known to dress as a pirate, he always looks the paaaart and we call it true aaaaarrrrrrt!
Mr Anderson, you’ll never be Too Old to Rock ‘n’ Roll or Too Young to Die
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 9, 2011 8:09:02 GMT
Does anyone know the actual chart position that SFTW reached in UK and US? Numerous numbers all over the internet and the official site has missed out on full details on some of the albums
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 9, 2011 8:38:36 GMT
Does anyone know the actual chart position that SFTW reached in UK and US? Numerous numbers all over the internet and the official site has missed out on full details on some of the albums According to Raymond Benson's book, SFTW reached #13 here in the UK and #8 in America. Glad you didn't ask about Papua New Guinea
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 2, 2012 11:16:18 GMT
Which of the Shulman brothers is involved in TAAB2?
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