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Post by greg on Aug 9, 2009 10:24:05 GMT
Hi Guys, Not sure if anyone's posted this in another thread yet, but a friend just alerted me to an impending new Tull release, of the whole Madison Square Garden set from 1978, on both CD (full gig) and DVD (the televised bits plus - I think - some extra stuff not broadcast, but I might be wrong there). Nothing on the website yet, or Amazon, but check Spin-cds. Here's the link: www.spincds.com/product.asp?id=9021471An excellent concert from the classic tull line-up, although sadly without John Glasscock. Good, huh?
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Post by Lucas on Aug 9, 2009 13:34:02 GMT
Fantastic! Finally!!!
I can't believe! Finally this amazing show will be released, and not only with the material we now, but more unreleased tracks from that show! I always knew there was more footage from that day!
It increases my faith that someday we will see the legendary footage from Paris '75, and a whole show from 76, maybe with more footage like Tullavision. I'm so happy! I just woke up, what a wonderful way to start the day!!
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Post by greg on Aug 19, 2009 13:37:33 GMT
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Post by TM on Aug 19, 2009 14:04:17 GMT
Thanks Greg.
Nice to see Martin on the cover.
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Post by greg on Aug 19, 2009 15:33:23 GMT
Indeed, TM! Is that a first (for an album) since, err, blimey, the margins of broadsword?
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Post by admin on Aug 19, 2009 20:14:29 GMT
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Post by greg on Aug 20, 2009 13:55:14 GMT
Indeed, Col, that would be excellent. But I'd settle for a decent stereo recording of a whole concert in the right order! I was looking enviously at the new Neil Young boxed set with its mega-shed-loads of memorabilia, concert photos, and uploadable extras, thinking, 'I wish Tull would do something that comprehensive'. MAybe the only hope is to let Dave Rees and Martin Webb loose in Ian's studio and office with carte blanche to release and publish anything they fancied the look/sound of...but I'm guessing that aint going to happen any time soon...
Cheers, Greg
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Post by orion on Sept 2, 2009 13:16:24 GMT
I've been away for a while, but just wanted to chime in and say "hooray!" for this release. I'll be first in line at the local record store. And Greg, I picked up the Neil Young Archive and it is indeed incredible. It happily ruined my life for nearly a month because all I did was drink beer and explore the 10 DVDs and the leather-bound booklet. If Ian were to do something similar for the early to mid Tull albums, it would slay more than a few of us stone dead.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 2, 2009 17:38:52 GMT
Tell me more about a possibly filmed '75 gig in Paris-----something connected to the 'red House' bootleg? The gig i saw in early 75 ( El Paso-February 6th) may have been the best concert I have ever seen. The one I saw later that year (Kent Stae--late October) was substantially lower energy and surprisingly without anything new except MITG title cut.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 3, 2009 7:12:25 GMT
Tell me more about a possibly filmed '75 gig in Paris-----something connected to the 'red House' bootleg? The gig i saw in early 75 ( El Paso-February 6th) may have been the best concert I have ever seen. The one I saw later that year (Kent Stae--late October) was substantially lower energy and surprisingly without anything new except MITG title cut. Steel. The only reference to 1975 filmed concerts is from the electrocutas site www.electrocutas.co.uk/net/dvd2.htmNothing from Paris but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist - just far too expensive to get a copy from the film owners/library as in the case of a few other items.
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 6, 2009 4:02:32 GMT
Steelmonkey, In an interview with Circus magazine in 1975 Ian mentions that they filmed 70 minutes of the Paris show earlier that year. I quote below: "Well we did about a month ago in Paris. We recorded and filmed about an hour and ten minutes of selected pieces that in fact we'll do some more work on as soon as we finish this tour. We did it really just to have some material in the proverbial can for an eventual video disc or whatever video media are introduced as a public concern." Or go here for the whole article: www.tullpress.com/c9dec75.htmPeople are looking for it. Let's hope it turns up if it still exist. Or Ian releases it if he has it.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 6, 2009 16:01:35 GMT
Thanks for the info and the article link......who knows if the film survived but it sounds like a solid possibility...Nice to read of Ian praising Passion Play...that kind of talk decreased and disappeared, didn't it?
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 6, 2009 22:37:59 GMT
It sure did disappear, and a shame it did. My first Tull concert was the Passion Play tour. First time in Cleveland, still the greatest show I have ever seen. Saw it twice more during that tour. I always was disappointed the never played any of it during later tours, but Ian had clearly tired of it. It is nice at least to see some of the great things folks have been doing with 8mm bits and pieces of it on youtube. Oh the memories!
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 7, 2009 9:27:25 GMT
There surely is loads and loads of old vids/pics /sequences all tucked away. That last documentary on TV with Bill Bailey doing prog rock had a few gems on it on the Tull bit. Maybe they won't release too much in case it looks like a finale of sorts for the band? "This Was and Cheerio"
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 7, 2009 16:19:16 GMT
There surely is loads and loads of old vids/pics /sequences all tucked away. That last documentary on TV with Bill Bailey doing prog rock had a few gems on it on the Tull bit. Maybe they won't release too much in case it looks like a finale of sorts for the band? "This Was and Cheerio" Most of the footage of Tull which has not seen the light of day remains, as far as I can ascertain, locked in the vaults of film libraries and production companies around the world. Here's one which I found which will only allow footage to be used if it is for genuine film/documentary purposes and not for the fans www.researchvideo.com/footage-libraries/bell-telephone-hour.htmlAnother film library is the British Film Institute and their site has some Tull items including the Sight & Sound concert ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/search.php?needle=jethro+tull&category=Everything&searchField=title&catSubmit.x=44&catSubmit.y=11The BBC, in their wisdom, wiped a lot of early video footage of many TV and radio programmes, including early Beatles, Dylan, Top of the Pops, etc., back in the late sixties, early seventies, so that they could save money and they are now searching for the lost items from fans who had the foresite to record off air on early home video equipment and, in the case of radio programmes, reel to reel tape recorders. It would also be very interesting to know exactly what the Library of Congress in the USA has on the band although I found this which requires exploring in detail www.loc.gov/fedsearch/metasearch/?cclquery=jethro+tull&search_button=GO#query=(jethro tull)&filter=pz:id=lcweb|ammem|catalog|ppoc|thomas Think it's time to resurrect the Holy Grail thread jethrotull.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=317 so that newer members can see what we're missing.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 19, 2009 16:37:11 GMT
Well after many years of watching dodgy video and DVD bootlegs it’s finally officially released and not before time. Certainly the Madison Square Gardens product is a lavish affair, all glossy packaging, booklet etc and well worth the asking price. Considering that the master tapes have hung around for 31 years, the audio CD is crystal clear highlighting a band which is performing at the very pinnacle of their abilities. In fact Tony Williams, standing in for the ailing John Glascock, plays a mean bass throughout. Informative booklet containing pieces from Ian Anderson and Terry Ellis, band photos and technical information - enough to satisfy the inquisitive minds of any Tull fan. Audio CD track list: 1. Sweet Dream/2. One Brown Mouse/3. Heavy Horses/4. Thick As A Brick/5. No Laullaby/6. Songs From The Wood/ 7. Quatrain/8. Aqualung/ 9. Locomotive Breath/ 10. Too Old . . . /11. My God & Cross Eyed Mary. The DVD is another beast altogether. Attempting to overcome the basic recording techniques of 1978 and restore the film footage has meant that the concert is presented here in three parts. Obviously the dear old BBC didn’t keep the out-takes or any footage recorded before or after transmission. Part one consists of Sweet Dream, One Brown Mouse and Heavy Horses in audio only with photos of the band. Part two is the footage of the concert itself which has been seen before but is now in it’s restored quality - Opening sequence/Thick As A Brick/No Lullaby/Songs From The Wood/ band intros/Quatrain/Aqualung/Locomotive Breath. Part three is the conclusion of the original broadcast consisting of Too Old . . & My God/Cross Eyed Mary plus the encore Locomotive Breath. This final part fades out when the BBC turned the cameras off so for the last part of the DVD we have the photo montage again. So what does this old maddog think. Well for my money it’s a 10 out of 10 if only for the fact that we’ve waited for this release for so many years and now having it in our grasp it would be churlish to complain of any minor glitches with the recording which, in all honesty, was not the band’s fault but the equipment used in those far off days. The song selection is magnificent (I’d forgotten just how good a song No Lullaby is), the musicianship is amazing and as an historical document in the Tull repertoire it’s one of the very best. And now for the Sight ‘n’ Sound footage ? Got my copy from www.play.com/ . Total cost £12.99 with free postage.
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Post by neilstcleve on Sept 20, 2009 13:19:00 GMT
I'm really disappointed that the video footage of the before and after bit wasn't kept. What a shame. Still putting it my list for Santa though
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 21, 2009 1:01:32 GMT
That sounds great maddogfagin I can't wait till it is available in the states. Too bad the BBC was so short sighted with this concert and all of the other pieces of history they didn't keep. Then again, NASA has lost the original footage of the moon landing, so no one's perfect.
Yes now let's see the Sight and Sound footage, which I have always thought was better then MSG. Now I have always assumed that it was taken from a full concert and edited down, but even if it was, I am sure the BBC wouldn't have kept the rest anyway. That is ok though, I will take a pristine and properly mixed dvd of what was shown on tv.
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Post by quizzkid on Sept 21, 2009 7:46:46 GMT
That sounds great maddogfagin I can't wait till it is available in the states. Too bad the BBC was so short sighted with this concert and all of the other pieces of history they didn't keep. Then again, NASA has lost the original footage of the moon landing, so no one's perfect. Yes now let's see the Sight and Sound footage, which I have always thought was better then MSG. Now I have always assumed that it was taken from a full concert and edited down, but even if it was, I am sure the BBC wouldn't have kept the rest anyway. That is ok though, I will take a pristine and properly mixed dvd of what was shown on tv. I was there and other than a little bit of the ending [seconds] all that was shown was all that was played.
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 22, 2009 3:04:09 GMT
Oh well, that settles it then. I would still like to see an official release. Thanks for the info quizkid. I saw them on that tour in my home town of Columbus Ohio, as well as Dayton and Cleveland. It was great to see them do so much new material from SFTW, as they had played very little from Minstrel, Warchild and Too Old in previous tours.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 23, 2009 16:26:11 GMT
Hara Arena--right before Thanksgiving? I hitch hiked from Oberlin College to get that gig and ended up on TV....a few second clip showing Tull fans going to the kid while the rest of middle-America prepped for Turkey day....right? But I remember the Cleveland gig being months earlier in gigantic, bad sound Richfield.....Hara was a niteclub by comparision!
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 29, 2009 3:22:51 GMT
Yes that is the one. The Cleveland and Columbus shows were in March of that year within a week of each other. And if you think Richfield sounded awful, you should have seen a show in St. John Arena on the OSU campus. Fortunately we were on the floor for the Tull show, and it sounded fine, but if you were higher up for a show it was awful! I saw so many shows in Richfield and the Coliseum in Cincinnati I could drive to them in my sleep.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 26, 2009 17:19:16 GMT
Tell you what . . . . the reviews of the MSG dvd may have been slightly muted but this months Record Collector liked it and have given it 4, yes 4, stars:
Jethro Tull Live At Madison Square Gardens 1978 **** EMI Marketing 967 9202 (DVD+CD)
Dude looks like a laddie
Jethro Tull became the first rock group to appear live from America on British television on 14 October 1978. The music papers may have been awash with new wavers in skinny ties at the time, but Tull's Madison Square Garden appearance was the talk of sixth form common rooms for days after On the evidence of this DVD (and bonus CD), it's easy to see why. The combination of lan Anderson’s grandstanding showmanship and his band's cockily preternatural tightness made for a surprisingly bullish riposte to the nose-thumbing disdain for the old guard that prevailed in the wake of punk. Anderson cuts a cheerfully farcical dash in his flamboyant tartan garb, like Rob Roy outfitted by a tailor with double- vision, but his gurning, eye- rolling performance is as riveting as an M4 pile-up. There's virtuosity in abundance here - not least in Anderson's flute solo during No Lullaby - but the swaggering vigour of Aqualung and Locomotive Breath, not to mention an overall air of irreverent good humour, puts a healthy distance between Tull and the more witless, self- important indulgences of prog. Drummer Barriemore Barlow is man of the match, incidentally, combining Bonham brawn with Bruford dexterity.
Marco Rossi
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 1:27:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 18:33:18 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 14, 2009 18:43:37 GMT
Good ones Tootull. Would you like to volunteer yourself as Tull publicity head honcho? They certainly need one
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 21:52:49 GMT
Good ones Tootull. Would you like to volunteer yourself as Tull publicity head honcho? They certainly need one I guess I've already volunteered. Ho, ho, ho.
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