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Post by tullist on Sept 3, 2011 0:02:14 GMT
And you got to see likely one of his greatest performances at Albert Hall. I guess his estate, or his sister Janie, has finally decided to release that thing, presumably with the presentation it deserves. I know the recording I have has 2 shows, at least 4 songs from soundcheck, and assorted jabberings from backstage, and is only inches removed from a thoroughly professional recording. I have similar notions of a Who show I have from Amsterdam in 69, I think the first live performance of Tommy, an ace nearly professional recording, as seems to be often the case from that part of the world, the Tull one, or actually two, from 1/69 is my best recording of them until at least 75. I just know all the best ofs that have been released by the Who, or some of the marginal stuff released by the Hendrix estate, it slightly baffles me as to why those 2 would be left on the shelf. (Actually a few bits of the Albert Hall show were released on an obscure though official Hendrix release shortly after his death, I think called Experience.
Yeah I read that Jimi book you reference, I think it was called Kiss The Sky, and it was good. Especially enjoyed reading that he apparently had taken acid with another musical love of mine, the Art Ensemble of Chicago, in the mountains of Turkey, possibly the one that Noah's Ark may be in. But the best one I have read, admittedly also the most recent, is one called Becoming Jimi Hendrix who's premise is to investigate the years prior to his fame, and all the people who knew him then, many or most still living as he should be, but with the fame years also well covered. It raises further eyebrows re manager Mike Jeffries and his underworld involvements and the circumstances concerning Jimi's highly questionable death. Apparently, though I can't recall if I read this in that book or read it on the net recently, Jeffries admitted shortly before his own death, although I don't think he intended for it to get to the public at large, of holding Jimi down with some other brutaholic and forcing those barbituates and wine down his throat, neither substance was one Jimi frequently dabbled in. Although he had a very high tolerance to drugs, his drug of choice was LSD. There was something in the original police report I think that supports these substances having been applied by brute force, but for some reason, I think it was that Monika woman though Jimi had a few girlfriends, wanted it kept silent, I really don't remember the particulars. Yes he did try others, but was never for instance, an addict. I have little doubt that googling Mike Jeffries, hope I'm remembering his name right, will reveal a very dangerous and talented man, definitely no one to f**k with, very unlike the brute who ran or managed Led Zeppelin, basically just a nasty thug who badly needed his ass kicked by the Oakland branch of the Hells Angels, this guy Jeffries was the real deal, I think had even been a secret agent, possibly, though not necessarily, before his underworld career.
And if there is anyone who thinks the Mob cannot own a band, (or indeed an entire city re Chicago between maybe 1920 and 1980, considerably less so now)google the Vanilla Fudge. Even though I have not I would presume that gets mentioned somewhere in their bio.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 3, 2011 2:43:37 GMT
Oh yeah...plenty of proof of underworld tenacles strangling rockers...Small faces for sure...Marriott and Lane got Lawyered up and on the path of some of their missing money and some serious mobsters took them aside in NYC and explained the risks of going further....there's tons of that...most including reminders that a single peep would endanger all involve...i mean, kids, wives etc so 95% will never be known...I mean, look at the generation before...Sinatra playing mob functions not quite voluntarily, who knows how often...and everyone seems to agree the kennedy's were up to their shoulders in mob $h1t....when Bobby tried to weasel them out, having the nerve to think attorney general of the USA meant $h1t to a tree for the bad guys,...well, the beginning of the end for all of them. hate to go all old testament ( just ran into the band testament, BTW, answering a craiglist ad for cheap furniture and going to a roadies garage where they were sorting out end of tour bags abd instrument bins)...the place they think Noah touched terra firma after the rain is Mt Ararat...near Turkey, true...but firmly in Armenia...doesn't lessen the coolarity of jimi and other cosmic explorers tripping in exotic anatolia......of course, the Turks and Armenians have had some serious real estate issues in that neck of the woods for a long time...try 'Snow' by Oran Pahmuk....
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tullist
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Post by tullist on Sept 3, 2011 5:55:22 GMT
Though they remain likely my two favorite American politicians to hold the highest offices, there is no doubt that they came from a family that was the east coast equivalent of Capone,(with less bloodshed aided by a more blue blood m.o. that simply was not within reach of most Italians or Sicilians at that time) their Dad was pretty much the prime operator for alcohol on the east coast, doubtless the NY families and others had a piece, but Joe Kennedy was the guy, but also enough of a politician himself that he was the US ambassador to the UK for a time.
But it was the Chicago mob that got Kennedy elected by an eyelash thru the connections to their Father who was dead set on one of the boys, the late Joe was the one he had in mind, being President, set up thru dealings with the number 2 man in Chicago, Sam Giancana,(the home where he received his own bullet in the back of his head, almost undoubtebly from someone he knew well, who came into his basement only blocks from here where the guy was makin up some Italian SAH SEE GES in the summer of 75) by rigging the voting machines here in Cook County, and applying beatings where necessary. I will always give credit to a very young Bobby for going face to face with the main operators,albeit within the halls of justice or actually the US Senate I believe is where those hearings were held, with full knowledge of the game, one in which he was extended no immunity, and coming from the family he did, I have zero doubt he was aware of it as was the President. But I truly do not want to know what would have happened had Nixon been President in October of 62. No Jethro Tull would have been a very low concern indeed.
Possibly something better would have come of it had they been dealing with Tony Accardo, the number one guy who lived 2 blocks from where I grew up and used to come to our little league games, the nice old man with the tuna head carved in the top of his cane, "Big Tuna", arguably for many years the most potent man in the USA, and very likely the world. Although he was guilty of numerous truly awful murders, at least as the guy who would nod nay or yay as to whether someone needed to be removed, somewhat oddly he was a man who could be reasoned with, whereas Sam Giancana was a very powerful man with an explosive temper, very literally the last guy on the planet you want to f**k with. Its a little funny how Accardo embraced the Tuna nickname as nearly all of them are media concoctions, not what they actually referred to each other as. And some of them are really good, I like that no nose guy, at a considerable distance at least, though many are compelling gentleman believe it or not. I forget what his real name was, maybe Frankie "no nose" Luicci. But I doubt if Accardo embraced a name he was known as a young man, Joey Batters, earned while being Capone's main muscle guy, and as the individual "credited" with being the man wielding the baseball bat at one of those attendance mandatory, like, even if you know you are about to be killed, meetings across state lines in Gary, Indiana, who bashed in the skulls of a couple of mugs for some transgression. One credit I will always give the Mob as opposed to all of today's equally violent street gangs, is never ever was a 4 year old, or this week a one year old, given a bullet in the head for getting into the field of play, guilty often only of having been on their front porch.
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 3, 2011 8:19:03 GMT
My! the things you read about on this Forum thanks Guys
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 3, 2011 8:24:28 GMT
And you got to see likely one of his greatest performances at Albert Hall. I guess his estate, or his sister Janie, has finally decided to release that thing, presumably with the presentation it deserves. I know the recording I have has 2 shows, at least 4 songs from soundcheck, and assorted jabberings from backstage, and is only inches removed from a thoroughly professional recording. I have similar notions of a Who show I have from Amsterdam in 69, I think the first live performance of Tommy, an ace nearly professional recording, as seems to be often the case from that part of the world, the Tull one, or actually two, from 1/69 is my best recording of them until at least 75. I just know all the best ofs that have been released by the Who, or some of the marginal stuff released by the Hendrix estate, it slightly baffles me as to why those 2 would be left on the shelf. (Actually a few bits of the Albert Hall show were released on an obscure though official Hendrix release shortly after his death, I think called Experience. Yeah I read that Jimi book you reference, I think it was called Kiss The Sky, and it was good. Especially enjoyed reading that he apparently had taken acid with another musical love of mine, the Art Ensemble of Chicago, in the mountains of Turkey, possibly the one that Noah's Ark may be in. But the best one I have read, admittedly also the most recent, is one called Becoming Jimi Hendrix who's premise is to investigate the years prior to his fame, and all the people who knew him then, many or most still living as he should be, but with the fame years also well covered. It raises further eyebrows re manager Mike Jeffries and his underworld involvements and the circumstances concerning Jimi's highly questionable death. Apparently, though I can't recall if I read this in that book or read it on the net recently, Jeffries admitted shortly before his own death, although I don't think he intended for it to get to the public at large, of holding Jimi down with some other brutaholic and forcing those barbituates and wine down his throat, neither substance was one Jimi frequently dabbled in. Although he had a very high tolerance to drugs, his drug of choice was LSD. There was something in the original police report I think that supports these substances having been applied by brute force, but for some reason, I think it was that Monika woman though Jimi had a few girlfriends, wanted it kept silent, I really don't remember the particulars. Yes he did try others, but was never for instance, an addict. I have little doubt that googling Mike Jeffries, hope I'm remembering his name right, will reveal a very dangerous and talented man, definitely no one to f**k with, very unlike the brute who ran or managed Led Zeppelin, basically just a nasty thug who badly needed his ass kicked by the Oakland branch of the Hells Angels, this guy Jeffries was the real deal, I think had even been a secret agent, possibly, though not necessarily, before his underworld career. And if there is anyone who thinks the Mob cannot own a band, (or indeed an entire city re Chicago between maybe 1920 and 1980, considerably less so now)google the Vanilla Fudge. Even though I have not I would presume that gets mentioned somewhere in their bio. The three of us were up in the "gods" having secured tickets at the last moment but anywhere in the RAH is good, especially as it was Jimi. Alas the concert itself went far too quickly, as all good gigs go, but when I get a moment I'll post the programme and a few other JHE memorabilia. The various youtubes of the concert really show how phenominal Jimi, Mitch and Noel were as a powerhouse trio, and as an event it would take some hell of a beating. |
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 16, 2011 17:07:26 GMT
tricky one clue - a musician   |
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Post by broadsword on Sept 17, 2011 20:18:29 GMT
A sort of semi wild educated guess - Tom McGuiness (Manfred Mann/The Blues Band)?
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 17, 2011 21:45:12 GMT
A sort of semi wild educated guess - Tom McGuiness (Manfred Mann/The Blues Band)? good guess I can see where your coming from but your not right (remember Catchphrase) Clues guitarist born 1955 co founder of a very successful band. |
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 18, 2011 8:48:30 GMT
Whoever he is, looks like he was teacher's pet.
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 18, 2011 9:38:16 GMT
This'll give it away - the other co founder of the famous band is his brother
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Post by onewhiteduck on Sept 18, 2011 10:04:23 GMT
Angus Young
Wales for rugby world cup!!
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 18, 2011 15:39:17 GMT
Angus Young Wales for rugby world cup!! correct though not so sure about the rugby *runs away to avoid duck feathers * |
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Post by bunkerfan on Sept 18, 2011 17:47:01 GMT
tricky one clue - a musician Now I see the resemblance. Still teachers pet then.  |
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 18, 2011 19:27:07 GMT
He obviously loved that uniform and wasn't going to let it go |
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 11, 2011 17:38:58 GMT
Who is this ?  |
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 11, 2011 17:53:33 GMT
Who is this ? that face looks awfully familiar I thought first a toothless Bruce Forsyth |
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 16, 2011 8:49:31 GMT
Who is this ? that face looks awfully familiar I thought first a toothless Bruce Forsyth No. Clue - bass player |
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 23, 2011 9:45:12 GMT
more clues Sir for this one
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 23, 2011 19:17:53 GMT
more clues Sir for this one You mean this musician? Singer with the band and plays the bass. |
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 23, 2011 20:30:43 GMT
What kind of music?
He will be in is fifties now? not quite in the winter fuel payment set yet.
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Post by onewhiteduck on Nov 23, 2011 20:50:24 GMT
Hi Patti .Is it Sting or the guy from Level 42. Go on then Sting
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 23, 2011 22:09:16 GMT
Hi Duckie. I don't know. ;D
The only bassist/singers than I can think of are Lemmy and Roger Waters. Couldn't be Lemmy cause he was never childlike and angelic or I could be wrong.
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Post by stormmonkey on Nov 23, 2011 22:37:41 GMT
The answer is Lemmy from a heavy metal band called 'Motorhead'. I copied the photo to my computer machine, opened a google "images" search page, dropped the JPEG into the search box and looked at the results. www.heavymetalcenter.net/2010/08/heavy-metal-fotos-de-infancia.htmlTry this with a photo of yourself. I did. I have a doppelganger. |
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 24, 2011 8:37:56 GMT
The answer is Lemmy from a heavy metal band called 'Motorhead'. I copied the photo to my computer machine, opened a google "images" search page, dropped the JPEG into the search box and looked at the results. www.heavymetalcenter.net/2010/08/heavy-metal-fotos-de-infancia.htmlTry this with a photo of yourself. I did. I have a doppelganger. Sure is. And he still owes the headmaster some money for a guitar from many moons ago. |
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 24, 2011 8:57:53 GMT
The answer is Lemmy from a heavy metal band called 'Motorhead'. I copied the photo to my computer machine, opened a google "images" search page, dropped the JPEG into the search box and looked at the results. www.heavymetalcenter.net/2010/08/heavy-metal-fotos-de-infancia.htmlTry this with a photo of yourself. I did. I have a doppelganger. I must try that. I remember years ago someone that knew me said that they made a complete fool of themselves when they went on a course somewhere else and ran up to this girl and shouted at them saying "What the hell are you doing here" apparently it was so like me it was scary. I think that's what they meant Thats a great pic of Lemmy never thought he was ever a child |
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 24, 2011 19:27:09 GMT
I always get mistaken for Prince or George Clooney depending on my clothing that day.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 24, 2011 19:32:16 GMT
I must try that. I remember years ago someone that knew me said that they made a complete fool of themselves when they went on a course somewhere else and ran up to this girl and shouted at them saying "What the hell are you doing here" apparently it was so like me it was scary. I think that's what they meant Oh no, two nonrabbits. |
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 24, 2011 19:36:52 GMT
I always get mistaken for Prince or George Clooney depending on my clothing that day. I can understand that Bernie. Can we do a q&a with you in your Prince mode please?  |
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 24, 2011 22:22:36 GMT
maybeee...
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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 28, 2011 18:06:39 GMT
... Couldn't be Lemmy cause he was never childlike and angelic or I could be wrong. I was wrong - found this by chance in the Manchester Beat site  Rev Black and the Rockin Vicars guess who's on the left?? ![]() i42.images obliterated by tinypic/zv3r7k.jpg[/IMG] |
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But probably best in Humor, Games and Fun Thanks for sharing.
. Anyone else? I know of one other 