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Post by fatman on Mar 13, 2009 6:16:41 GMT
This will once and for all settle my friendly dispute with TM re: Eddie's surprise appearance with Tull for one show, at the Meadowlands in New Jersey, during the Rock Island tour. Check out the following exchange I had on Eddie Jobson's website some time ago. The webmaster confirms that Eddie did one-off guest appearances with Tull in Berlin in 1985 and at the Brendan Byrne arena on Nov. 9, 1989, "the night the wall came down according to Eddie." It was an unannounced walk-on performance, to a huge ovation, during the middle of the show, and it was the last time Eddie ever performed on any stage, until the January 2009 live debut of his new project, UKZ. Eddie played on both Budapest and Pine Marten's Jig that night. I was not aware of the webmaster's 5/16/08 official confirmation until today, but I do recall his initial response saying that he believed I was correct and would check. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie & Tull Author: fatman Date: 05-10-08 15:26 Everyone knows Eddie toured with Tull on the A tour in 1981. However, I've been having an ongoing argument on the Tull website as to whether he ever appeared with Tull after that. I swear that on Tull's Rock Island tour in 1989, Eddie made a guest appearance at the New Jersey Meadowlands show, but some Tullies deny this. I distinctly remember Eddie playing on (at least) two songs that night, Pine Marten's Jig and Budapest. It make sense since he was living in the New York area at the time. Can anyone confirm this for me? Reply To This Message Re: Eddie & Tull Author: webmaster Date: 05-10-08 15:41 I think you are right, I will check. I know that the last time EJ walked onto a stage was as a guest with Tull at the Meadowlands Arena in New Jersey. I'll find out what year. Webmaster Reply To This Message Re: Eddie & Tull Author: Mrexzor Date: 05-12-08 14:27 EJ played with Tull again in 1985. I believe there is (non-legit) video of this concert. www.doaneperrypage.de/book-1.htmlAnderson brought the lads out of temporary retirement when representatives in Germany asked that Tull be involved in a concert celebrating the 300th birthday of J. S. Bach to be held at Berlin’s International Congress Centrum on March 16, 1985. Eddie Jobson ”rejoined” the band for this one-off gig featuring a diverse selection of material. Anderson’s vocal problems were obvious on ”Black Sunday,” but were not noticeable on most of the other songs, including ”Hunting Girl,” ”Living in the Past,” ”Too Old to Rock ’n’ Roll,” ”Wond’ring Aloud,” ”Aqualung” and ”Locomotive Breath.” Being a tribute to Bach, the set list was graced with several beautifully played instrumentals: ”Elegy,” ”Serenade to a Cuckoo” (including an extended bridge blending several musical styles and featuring Jobson on violin), ”Bouree” and Bach’s ”Double Violin Concerto” (a 1717 piece actually titled ”Concerto for Two Violins in D Minor”). The band segued into ”Happy Birthday” at the close of this last number, as Anderson strutted onto the stage with a huge cake adorned with three candles, blowing them out with a New Year’s Eve ”noisemaker.” Reply To This Message Re: Eddie & Tull Author: gogo Date: 05-12-08 19:58 Awesome. love gogo Reply To This Message Re: Eddie & Tull Author: webmaster Date: 05-16-08 16:20 Yes, I have the official word... EJ played with Tull at the then-called Brendan Byrne Arena at The Meadowlands, New Jersey "the night the wall came down", according to Eddie - that would be November 9, 1989. He did an unannounced walk-on in the middle of the show to a huge ovation. As fatman points out, Eddie played violin on The Pine Marten's Jig and Budapest and then walked off. This was the last of only two times that EJ has walked onto a stage since he retired from touring after the 'A' European tour of February 1981. The other time was in 1985 at the Berlin TV broadcast for Bach's 300th birthday mentioned above, performed after only two days rehearsal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 13, 2009 8:42:40 GMT
From the Ministry of Information site www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/index.htm9/11/89 Meadowlands Arena East Rutherford, NJ. USA Support: It Bites; lead singer Francis Dunnery told the audience that the Berlin Wall had come down. Eddie Jobson joined Tull as a surprise guest. One unconfirmed report says 'Too Old To Rock'N'Roll...' was also played, another says he played on 'Budapest' and perhaps other songs. Strange Avenues, Steel Monkey, Big Riff And Mando, Thick As A Brick, Rock Island, Requiem/Black Satin Dancer (inst.), Cheap Day Return/Mother Goose/Jack-A-Lynn, Another Christmas Song, My God (incl. Bourée), The Pine Marten's Jig/Drowsy Maggie, The Whaler's Dues, Budapest, Farm On The Freeway, SeaLion (inst.), Kissing Willie, Nothing Is Easy, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath, The Third Hoorah (inst.)/Medley This is always a very good place to check set list information. The details of the BackRock concert are: 16/3/85 International Congress Centrum Berlin, Germany Bach Rock Concert celebrating J.S.Bach's 300th birthday. Guest appearance by Eddie Jobson, instead of Peter Vettese. Black Sunday, Hunting Girl, Elegy, Living In The Past, Serenade To A Cuckoo, Too Old To Rock'N'Roll..., Wond'ring Aloud, Bourée/Soirée, Bach Double Violin Concerto, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath/Thick As A Brick (reprise) Maddog
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Post by fatman on Mar 13, 2009 11:59:43 GMT
From the Ministry of Information site www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/index.htm9/11/89 Meadowlands Arena East Rutherford, NJ. USA Support: It Bites; lead singer Francis Dunnery told the audience that the Berlin Wall had come down. Eddie Jobson joined Tull as a surprise guest. One unconfirmed report says 'Too Old To Rock'N'Roll...' was also played, another says he played on 'Budapest' and perhaps other songs. Strange Avenues, Steel Monkey, Big Riff And Mando, Thick As A Brick, Rock Island, Requiem/Black Satin Dancer (inst.), Cheap Day Return/Mother Goose/Jack-A-Lynn, Another Christmas Song, My God (incl. Bourée), The Pine Marten's Jig/Drowsy Maggie, The Whaler's Dues, Budapest, Farm On The Freeway, SeaLion (inst.), Kissing Willie, Nothing Is Easy, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath, The Third Hoorah (inst.)/Medley This is always a very good place to check set list information. The details of the BackRock concert are: 16/3/85 International Congress Centrum Berlin, Germany Bach Rock Concert celebrating J.S.Bach's 300th birthday. Guest appearance by Eddie Jobson, instead of Peter Vettese. Black Sunday, Hunting Girl, Elegy, Living In The Past, Serenade To A Cuckoo, Too Old To Rock'N'Roll..., Wond'ring Aloud, Bourée/Soirée, Bach Double Violin Concerto, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath/Thick As A Brick (reprise) Maddog The thing is, I believe Ministry may have gotten their information solely from me. So I went to EJ's website where I got confirmation from the webmaster, who checked with Eddie himself. Jeff
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Post by TM on Mar 13, 2009 15:15:53 GMT
Well, I guess you win Jeff. I sat first row just to Peggy's right that night. Sure I kicked back a few before the show, but nothing else. I truly have no recollection of Eddie - and he's easily recognizable. Maybe my vision was obstructed? I don't know. I'll have to ask the friend that went with me if he remembers him. But I'll be back!
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 13, 2009 16:54:14 GMT
Jobson's pretty skinny...maybe he was onstage sideways....
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Post by fatman on Mar 13, 2009 22:16:29 GMT
Well, I guess you win Jeff. I sat first row just to Peggy's right that night. Sure I kicked back a few before the show, but nothing else. I truly have no recollection of Eddie - and he's easily recognizable. Maybe my vision was obstructed? I don't know. I'll have to ask the friend that went with me if he remembers him. But I'll be back! What sometimes happens to me is I get shows confused. Is it possible that you sat first row for the Crest of a Knave show at the Meadowlands and saw the Rock Island tour somewhere else? Don't forget, Eddie only appeared that one night in NJ, so if you saw Rock Island on Long Island, for example, you would not have seen him. Jeff
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Post by TM on Mar 14, 2009 0:54:04 GMT
Well, I guess you win Jeff. I sat first row just to Peggy's right that night. Sure I kicked back a few before the show, but nothing else. I truly have no recollection of Eddie - and he's easily recognizable. Maybe my vision was obstructed? I don't know. I'll have to ask the friend that went with me if he remembers him. But I'll be back! What sometimes happens to me is I get shows confused. Is it possible that you sat first row for the Crest of a Knave show at the Meadowlands and saw the Rock Island tour somewhere else? Don't forget, Eddie only appeared that one night in NJ, so if you saw Rock Island on Long Island, for example, you would not have seen him. Jeff I actually sat 1st row for Crest & RI in NJ, and had loge seats for both shows at Nassau Coliseum. I have to admit that I was super pumped up for those shows in Jersey. It was quite the feeling walking down to the front row in a venue of that size. I truly cannot believe that I didn't notice him.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 14, 2009 1:07:10 GMT
Remember the days when we common folks could get good seats? Now you have to have a titanium alloy credit card of the right brand to get credit-card consumer hero level seats...It's amazing how many old hippie acts allow the best seats to be pre sold or otherwise doled out to the moneyed elite. I wish we all had chips in our bodies that verified our personal rock and roll indexes ( concerts attended/miles hitchiked to do so/nights camped out for tickets/ hours spent listening to latest releases etc etc etc into some wall street derivitave style formula that then assigned our seats based on our rock and roll authenticity...not the credit cards in our wallets or stupid consumer bonus points or whatever it takes to get the good seats these days....
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Post by TM on Mar 14, 2009 14:04:24 GMT
Remember the days when we common folks could get good seats? Now you have to have a titanium alloy credit card of the right brand to get credit-card consumer hero level seats...It's amazing how many old hippie acts allow the best seats to be pre sold or otherwise doled out to the moneyed elite. I wish we all had chips in our bodies that verified our personal rock and roll indexes ( concerts attended/miles hitchiked to do so/nights camped out for tickets/ hours spent listening to latest releases etc etc etc into some wall street derivitave style formula that then assigned our seats based on our rock and roll authenticity...not the credit cards in our wallets or stupid consumer bonus points or whatever it takes to get the good seats these days.... Good point. I bought those seats on the secondary market, but I remember the Crest show cost me $100 per seat and RI $125. No way you could do that today.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 14, 2009 16:14:33 GMT
Tom Petty, on the album 'last DJ', took a few lyrical stabs at the 'gold circle' seating fiascos then promptly toured, via 'clear channel'and made the good seats available first to Citibank credit card customers who has earned enough frequent flyer type points. I don't mind if charity realted motivations are in the mix.....but best credit card users?.....barf me out, to quote Zappa's daughter..
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Post by fatman on Mar 15, 2009 2:09:42 GMT
Tom Petty, on the album 'last DJ', took a few lyrical stabs at the 'gold circle' seating fiascos then promptly toured, via 'clear channel'and made the good seats available first to Citibank credit card customers who has earned enough frequent flyer type points. I don't mind if charity realted motivations are in the mix.....but best credit card users?.....barf me out, to quote Zappa's daughter.. Tom Petty's music itself is enough to barf me out. Jeff
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Post by TM on Mar 15, 2009 2:28:35 GMT
Tom Petty, on the album 'last DJ', took a few lyrical stabs at the 'gold circle' seating fiascos then promptly toured, via 'clear channel'and made the good seats available first to Citibank credit card customers who has earned enough frequent flyer type points. I don't mind if charity realted motivations are in the mix.....but best credit card users?.....barf me out, to quote Zappa's daughter.. Tom Petty's music itself is enough to barf me out. Jeff He was terrible at the Super Bowl.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 15, 2009 22:52:52 GMT
I go both ways on Tom Petty...I think he has a nice pile of great songs that entitled him to be a Wilbury and support his Dylan/Beatle/Real Rock and Roll guy vibe...and sometimes I think he's mainstream pap.....collaborating with Stevie Nicks is almost inexcusable...He beats hell out of Springsteen in my opinionated book.
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Post by rebecca on Mar 15, 2009 23:21:00 GMT
I'm much bigger on Bruce. I don't know of any TP songs I'd call "great" - which ones are you thinking of? Maybe, maybe "Don't come around here no more." Maybe.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 16, 2009 21:33:42 GMT
BS gives me a Bono sized headache......yucko. 'Last dance with Mary Jane' is a good song, so Is 'It's Good to be King' So are more obscure songs like 'Echo, Walls and 'Great Wide Open' Bruce has one song ever I kinda liked (The River)
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Post by rebecca on Mar 16, 2009 22:24:20 GMT
BS gives me a Bono sized headache......yucko. 'Last dance with Mary Jane' is a good song, so Is 'It's Good to be King' So are more obscure songs like 'Echo, Walls and 'Great Wide Open' Bruce has one song ever I kinda liked (The River) OO, and I love Bono even more than Bruce, so I see we're just not going to find peace on this subject!!
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Post by admin on Mar 19, 2009 10:04:24 GMT
Remember the days when we common folks could get good seats? Now you have to have a titanium alloy credit card of the right brand to get credit-card consumer hero level seats...It's amazing how many old hippie acts allow the best seats to be pre sold or otherwise doled out to the moneyed elite. I wish we all had chips in our bodies that verified our personal rock and roll indexes ( concerts attended/miles hitchiked to do so/nights camped out for tickets/ hours spent listening to latest releases etc etc etc into some wall street derivitave style formula that then assigned our seats based on our rock and roll authenticity...not the credit cards in our wallets or stupid consumer bonus points or whatever it takes to get the good seats these days.... Is it difficult getting good seats for Tull shows in the US? It's never a problem here in the UK. As long as you know when the shows are going onsale and book them straight away it's never a problem getting the first couple of rows. Maybe you should all come over and do the UK tours!
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Post by tullistray on Mar 19, 2009 12:12:09 GMT
Remember the days when we common folks could get good seats? Now you have to have a titanium alloy credit card of the right brand to get credit-card consumer hero level seats...It's amazing how many old hippie acts allow the best seats to be pre sold or otherwise doled out to the moneyed elite. I wish we all had chips in our bodies that verified our personal rock and roll indexes ( concerts attended/miles hitchiked to do so/nights camped out for tickets/ hours spent listening to latest releases etc etc etc into some wall street derivitave style formula that then assigned our seats based on our rock and roll authenticity...not the credit cards in our wallets or stupid consumer bonus points or whatever it takes to get the good seats these days.... Is it difficult getting good seats for Tull shows in the US? It's never a problem here in the UK. As long as you know when the shows are going onsale and book them straight away it's never a problem getting the first couple of rows. Maybe you should all come over and do the UK tours! Pretty much every tour until the last two since 78 I have seen in at least one other city than Chicago. For, to my recollection, all of those shows I have never purchased a ticket beforehand, I am sure all were sold out or nearly. I have never had a problem, until Joliet 10/07, and then probably only cause I was a little late finding either one or two tickets outside. While the Tull shows are sold out, there are kind of varying degrees of sold out, re Michael Jackson or maybe the Stones are dead sold out and you will pay way more than list price, (I never have at a Tull or Dead show) My personal experience in Chicago in the earlier seventies when Tull were genuinely a huge act, maybe hugest was more trying. This is Chicago, where one hand washes the other, for the Brick tours (2 in 72) we went to a ticket agent, I think about double price, for the PPlay we walked through likely one of the toughest neighborhoods in the US at 3am to get in line, I recall we were exactly 100 in line, I also recall we brought extra joints in case we met any local denizens who might not like our skin tone in transit, and we did meet and placate same. But being Chicago, even going through that level of difficulty we still got $h1te seats, possibly why my memory of the Passion Play is way less profound than many. Saw the War Child tour on consecutive nights, the second deciding to go about 40 minutes before the show which of course had sold out months earlier in about a minute and a half and ten minutes before the show we got second row center from the box office! God knows I will never forget Ian's bug eyed rage filled stage entrance. Total one eyed pirate scene man. This was in a period of high critical Tull scorn which I think added a little extra to his attack I will say. It was the tour which opened with that string section, seemed to be a guy conducting, at a crescendo the guy lifted up his tail, black stockings and garter, Jeffrey and Martin with that howling bit that turned into the middle of Wind Up, Ian starting with those lyrics "How do you dare to tell me, and then the segue into a bit of Play where lines like Peak at the lines upon your sleeve since your memory won't do were dealt with real venom.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 19, 2009 15:06:16 GMT
Those first minutes of the 1975 tour, which T-stray describes perfectly... i saw in El Paso, also from front and center..having let myself into a side door of a general admission concert in El Paso, texas..having read about the gig in "circus' magazine a few days earler, told my parents i was going skiing overnite..and, with 3 friends...drove 700 miles from denver to El paso, straight thru, in a limping 1964 falcon..no wipers, no heater, torn convertible roof, through a snowstorm...with the other front seat person wiping the window with a bandanna ( his side!) for a peephole of vision driving down I-25 on ice thru new mexico...stoned. Those were the days...we had no idea if we would get tix...we just went..bought general admission seats from an outdoor scalper a few hours before the gig and confidently walked in the side door as if we owned the place...no one flinched...Tull sound checked with War Child....and the show opened as 'stray described above.......If i ever get a time machine, once i finish with the sex...i'm going back to that gig!
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 19, 2009 18:56:44 GMT
Regarding last minute tix...alll bands get a pile of tix for themselves and friends...most get far fewer than they need..but Tull, groupie-oblivious, even in the old days and just not the kind of guys to have countless best friends in each dorf, often find themselves with a few left over tickets...best in house variety, on the day of the show...which they promptly deliver to the box office for a few extra pfenning/pennies/rubles whatever...this has been a Tull characteristic forever...and not something anyone should ever count on...especially in high profile gigs like london/NYC/LA...but is always worth a try for a seat upgrade...then you can sell your lesser seats...at cost!...to someone else who will feel lucky!
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 24, 2020 1:38:21 GMT
Eddie Jobson & Eric Blair talk UK, Roxy Music & Jethro Tull @ Namm 2002
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 27, 2020 19:42:13 GMT
Articulate, civilized individual. Not surprising that he met Ian's standards. He is right about the quality of the 'A' tour.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 28, 2020 0:04:45 GMT
Articulate, civilized individual. Not surprising that he met Ian's standards. He is right about the quality of the 'A' tour. God Bless Eddie Jobson whom I met @ The Beacon Theater in 1995
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 28, 2020 0:57:47 GMT
1983 - Eddie Jobson - Night Flight Interview
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 22, 2023 1:46:33 GMT
Eddie Jobson - Forever Until Sunday (U.K. / Bruford) - Live in Japan 2013 Recorded at 'CLUB CITTA' Kawasaki, Kanagawa, Japan November 9, 2013 Bass Guitar – Ric Fierabracci Drums – Marco Minnemann Guitar – Alex Machacek Keyboards, Electric Violin – Eddie Jobson
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