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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 11, 2021 6:15:16 GMT
Meant to say — and I’m sure many of you know this already — but Ian mentioned a February release date for The Zealot Gene onstage at Brighton Dome, 22nd September. I daresay he’s mentioned it on other dates along the tour as well. Thought I’d just add this detail to the thread. 😉 The delay, apparently, is due to lack of availability of pressing plant time for a vinyl release.
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Post by futureshock on Oct 13, 2021 18:31:28 GMT
A February release makes sense. Two months of the year are horrid for trying to sell anything other than food: September and January. And the COVID economic recovery is not going fast, it's crawling. So a big release expecting a rush to Christmas bins this year may be frustrating. September is all about expenses for "back to work" and "back to school". January has people recovering from their expenses for Christmas extravagance, travel, parties and then New Years parties and taking gifts back to stores to exchange them for sports socks. If Elvis, Ella Fitzgerald and Beethoven came back with new music albums released this January, people would wait until February to buy them. Zealot month is February. That gives the music a couple months of air play and initial sales, before summer-like touring conditions arrive in many places, and by next spring, COVID conditions will be the same crap as now, but we'll all be more adjusted to dealing with the FIFTH wave. Don't kid yourselves, that's going to happen.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Oct 13, 2021 20:50:36 GMT
A February release makes sense. Two months of the year are horrid for trying to sell anything other than food: September and January. And the COVID economic recovery is not going fast, it's crawling. So a big release expecting a rush to Christmas bins this year may be frustrating. September is all about expenses for "back to work" and "back to school". January has people recovering from their expenses for Christmas extravagance, travel, parties and then New Years parties and taking gifts back to stores to exchange them for sports socks. If Elvis, Ella Fitzgerald and Beethoven came back with new music albums released this January, people would wait until February to buy them. Zealot month is February. That gives the music a couple months of air play and initial sales, before summer-like touring conditions arrive in many places, and by next spring, COVID conditions will be the same crap as now, but we'll all be more adjusted to dealing with the FIFTH wave. Don't kid yourselves, that's going to happen. That's fair cheered me up
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Post by adospencer on Oct 14, 2021 12:01:50 GMT
A February release makes sense. Two months of the year are horrid for trying to sell anything other than food: September and January. And the COVID economic recovery is not going fast, it's crawling. So a big release expecting a rush to Christmas bins this year may be frustrating. September is all about expenses for "back to work" and "back to school". January has people recovering from their expenses for Christmas extravagance, travel, parties and then New Years parties and taking gifts back to stores to exchange them for sports socks. If Elvis, Ella Fitzgerald and Beethoven came back with new music albums released this January, people would wait until February to buy them. Zealot month is February. That gives the music a couple months of air play and initial sales, before summer-like touring conditions arrive in many places, and by next spring, COVID conditions will be the same crap as now, but we'll all be more adjusted to dealing with the FIFTH wave. Don't kid yourselves, that's going to happen. The days of Tull attracting casual buyers are long gone. Be it Christmas or the end of the world ,when an album comes out, those of us who are still interested will buy it ,so why wait?.
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Post by tullabye on Oct 14, 2021 20:48:45 GMT
A February release makes sense. Two months of the year are horrid for trying to sell anything other than food: September and January. And the COVID economic recovery is not going fast, it's crawling. So a big release expecting a rush to Christmas bins this year may be frustrating. September is all about expenses for "back to work" and "back to school". January has people recovering from their expenses for Christmas extravagance, travel, parties and then New Years parties and taking gifts back to stores to exchange them for sports socks. If Elvis, Ella Fitzgerald and Beethoven came back with new music albums released this January, people would wait until February to buy them. Zealot month is February. That gives the music a couple months of air play and initial sales, before summer-like touring conditions arrive in many places, and by next spring, COVID conditions will be the same crap as now, but we'll all be more adjusted to dealing with the FIFTH wave. Don't kid yourselves, that's going to happen. The days of Tull attracting casual buyers are long gone. Be it Christmas or the end of the world ,when an album comes out, those of us who are still interested will buy it ,so why wait?. This has already been discussed however for those unaware this is not Ian’s decision. He is super frustrated but the record company will not release until vinyl is completed so all release formats come at the same time. Cutting vinyl is apparently in high demand and there are schedules made many months in advance for such. The vinyl cannot be cut until next year which is the sole reason for the delay. They may delay it a couple of weeks from Jan to Feb but the real wait is due to adhering to the vinyl schedule.
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Post by theothertull on Oct 16, 2021 22:57:19 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on Oct 18, 2021 0:41:29 GMT
The new album is going to really be good.
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Post by JTull 007 on Oct 18, 2021 1:23:14 GMT
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Post by tullabye on Oct 21, 2021 18:07:23 GMT
The new album is going to really be good. Might you have some insider info that we are not privy to?
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Post by steelmonkey on Oct 22, 2021 20:04:23 GMT
No...all I have is faith in Ian and a few live versions of the title track.
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Post by Catqualung on Oct 23, 2021 11:13:49 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. I remember the record which I listened to in my dream had a simple cover picture, with grey/green fog background and the title and the Jethro Tull name in the middle, in shiny letters. It was very good and original music, with long instrumental sections and guitar riffs... Just a dream, but I admit I imagine it will be like in my dream! I dont remember if the title trak was the real one, thought. It was not the first time I dreamed of listening to a new record, but it was the first time that the record was one that was really due to be released. In the past in my dreams I listened to a non existing box-set collection of imaginary discarded old Jethro Tull gems, some of which were great: I remember listening to them several times, in that dream, becouse I loved them... With the same dreamlike method I even listened to a non existing original Beatles album, published in 1974, which title song was called "Moon Unit". Now don't laugh tto much... I still remember that song! Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night!
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Post by tullabye on Oct 23, 2021 13:55:11 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. I remember the record which I listened to in my dream had a simple cover picture, with grey/green fog background and the title and the Jethro Tull name in the middle, in shiny letters. It was very good and original music, with long instrumental sections and guitar riffs... Just a dream, but I admit I imagine it will be like in my dream! I dont remember if the title trak was the real one, thought. It was not the first time I dreamed of listening to a new record, but it was the first time that the record was one that was really due to be released. In the past in my dreams I listened to a non existing box-set collection of imaginary discarded old Jethro Tull gems, some of which were great: I remember listening to them several times, in that dream, becouse I loved them... With the same dreamlike method I even listened to a non existing original Beatles album, published in 1974, which title song was called "Moon Unit". Now don't laugh tto much... I still remember that song! Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! Back around the time Minstrel came out I had a dream of Ian being on stage and introducing the new JT album “Dark Ages”. About four years later the song by the same name appeared on Stormwatch. Crazy but true.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 24, 2021 6:04:49 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. I remember the record which I listened to in my dream had a simple cover picture, with grey/green fog background and the title and the Jethro Tull name in the middle, in shiny letters. It was very good and original music, with long instrumental sections and guitar riffs... Just a dream, but I admit I imagine it will be like in my dream! I dont remember if the title trak was the real one, thought. It was not the first time I dreamed of listening to a new record, but it was the first time that the record was one that was really due to be released. In the past in my dreams I listened to a non existing box-set collection of imaginary discarded old Jethro Tull gems, some of which were great: I remember listening to them several times, in that dream, becouse I loved them... With the same dreamlike method I even listened to a non existing original Beatles album, published in 1974, which title song was called "Moon Unit". Now don't laugh tto much... I still remember that song! Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! Back around the time Minstrel came out I had a dream of Ian being on stage and introducing the new JT album “Dark Ages”. About four years later the song by the same name appeared on Stormwatch. Crazy but true. Gone are the days when illustrious publications such as Melody Maker, New Musical Express et al would tease the fans about a new album for weeks on end then really pull it to pieces when at last it was issued. If I recall NME did that with Under Wraps
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Post by adospencer on Oct 24, 2021 9:06:26 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. I remember the record which I listened to in my dream had a simple cover picture, with grey/green fog background and the title and the Jethro Tull name in the middle, in shiny letters. It was very good and original music, with long instrumental sections and guitar riffs... Just a dream, but I admit I imagine it will be like in my dream! I dont remember if the title trak was the real one, thought. It was not the first time I dreamed of listening to a new record, but it was the first time that the record was one that was really due to be released. In the past in my dreams I listened to a non existing box-set collection of imaginary discarded old Jethro Tull gems, some of which were great: I remember listening to them several times, in that dream, becouse I loved them... With the same dreamlike method I even listened to a non existing original Beatles album, published in 1974, which title song was called "Moon Unit". Now don't laugh tto much... I still remember that song! Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! Several times in the seventies, I dreamt I could hear a new Tull album and desperately tried to remember what Id heard in my dream when I woke up. I remember before "Warchild", it was reviewed in "Sounds" and gave a little quote from one of the songs "the spoils of battles won", which set my imagination into overdrive. This happened a few times in the seventies as I eagerly counted down to each new release. Those days are gone of course, I'm looking forward to the "Zealot gene", but Im expecting something like the last two "IA" releases that I don't play much. Im not excited either that because its a fairly old recording the guitarist on it is Florian? Good player but very generic and unemotional. I know Martin is long gone, but his quirky riffs were a huge part of the thrill of any new Tull release back then.
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Post by steelmonkey on Oct 25, 2021 3:00:07 GMT
I had a clear dream of 'Quadrophenia' before it came out but I had heard the name. in the dream it was spelled Kwatro-Fenia' and the cover had a guy in a row boat with a kind of 'Salty Dog' vibe. I also had a clear dream of the Elvis Costello song,' Tokyo Storm Warning' but in the dream it was called ;Hit Single'...I swear.
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Post by Catqualung on Oct 26, 2021 19:55:42 GMT
There is another Jethro-leaks in instagram: a short clip of a video, with beautiful music from the Zealot Gene... Really interesting stuff! It can be seen also from the JT official site. Only problem, it also appeared a comment from the JT staff, saying the music was from the new album, coming out in APRIL 2022... Then this was removed, or I can't find it anymore... But... April? I am getting too old, waiting for the ZG! Maybe I should stop to wait for it, and then, when the record really comes out, it will be a good surprise for me... provided I still will be there to listen to the album.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 27, 2021 6:36:14 GMT
There is another Jethro-leaks in instagram: a short clip of a video, with beautiful music from the Zealot Gene... Really interesting stuff! It can be seen also from the JT official site. Only problem, it also appeared a comment from the JT staff, saying the music was from the new album, coming out in APRIL 2022... Then this was removed, or I can't find it anymore... But... April? I am getting too old, waiting for the ZG! Maybe I should stop to wait for it, and then, when the record really comes out, it will be a good surprise for me... provided I still will be there to listen to the album. I'm fed up with waiting - think I'll have a little nap
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 27, 2021 12:02:40 GMT
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Post by Catqualung on Oct 27, 2021 21:02:14 GMT
My Jethro Tull cover band of cats has just overized some music from The Zealot Gene. See the link on youtube: youtu.be/RwSlCeZTHUU
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Post by JTull 007 on Oct 28, 2021 0:49:57 GMT
My Jethro Tull cover band of cats has just overized some music from The Zealot Gene. See the link on youtube: Our cat LOVES IT TOO !!!
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Post by Catqualung on Oct 28, 2021 16:00:41 GMT
There is another Jethro-leaks in instagram: a short clip of a video, with beautiful music from the Zealot Gene... Really interesting stuff! It can be seen also from the JT official site. Only problem, it also appeared a comment from the JT staff, saying the music was from the new album, coming out in APRIL 2022... Then this was removed, or I can't find it anymore... But... April? I am getting too old, waiting for the ZG! Maybe I should stop to wait for it, and then, when the record really comes out, it will be a good surprise for me... provided I still will be there to listen to the album. I was wrong, the comment which said that the new album comes out in april (i have found it again) is not from the JT stuff, but from someone with a nickname very similar to jethrotull, which I misread (I usually don't wear my glasses, but I should). So I hope this guy is wrong, and february is still the time. Or even earlier, since new jethro leaks from instagram announce new music coming soon... But this probably means a single and a video to be released next month, I think.
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Post by Catqualung on Oct 29, 2021 9:03:11 GMT
Obviously I had to make a singing sequence, after new 10 seconds of music have been released. Have a laugh: youtu.be/HUCQzK5YpNQ
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 29, 2021 11:49:34 GMT
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Post by crosseyedmary75 on Oct 30, 2021 7:25:56 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. I remember the record which I listened to in my dream had a simple cover picture, with grey/green fog background and the title and the Jethro Tull name in the middle, in shiny letters. It was very good and original music, with long instrumental sections and guitar riffs... Just a dream, but I admit I imagine it will be like in my dream! I dont remember if the title trak was the real one, thought. It was not the first time I dreamed of listening to a new record, but it was the first time that the record was one that was really due to be released. In the past in my dreams I listened to a non existing box-set collection of imaginary discarded old Jethro Tull gems, some of which were great: I remember listening to them several times, in that dream, becouse I loved them... With the same dreamlike method I even listened to a non existing original Beatles album, published in 1974, which title song was called "Moon Unit". Now don't laugh tto much... I still remember that song! Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! Several times in the seventies, I dreamt I could hear a new Tull album and desperately tried to remember what Id heard in my dream when I woke up. I remember before "Warchild", it was reviewed in "Sounds" and gave a little quote from one of the songs "the spoils of battles won", which set my imagination into overdrive. This happened a few times in the seventies as I eagerly counted down to each new release. Those days are gone of course, I'm looking forward to the "Zealot gene", but Im expecting something like the last two "IA" releases that I don't play much. Im not excited either that because its a fairly old recording the guitarist on it is Florian? Good player but very generic and unemotional. I know Martin is long gone, but his quirky riffs were a huge part of the thrill of any new Tull release back then. I wanted to share a few thoughts with you guys, but I didn't want to refer to something too esoteric or irrelevant. I see that you look long and hard at this unusual figure, our Gerald Bostick, our Minstrel, this Voice so special. When I told Ian his music saved my life, I mentioned a couple of verses from Aqualung. Immediately, Shona asked if I appreciated his new work, too. "Oh, absolutely!" Ian is very human. This is what I think is and has been going on in him. I could be way, way off. Just my thoughts. I think Ian poured his guts out in Aqualung and that album placed him in a different world, a world of stardom. He is an extraordinarily sensitive man. He is driven, too. He needs to express himself in ways that are important to him. Becoming a rock star is unnerving. He went from a relative unknown to a superstar quickly. Ever since he has tried to manufacture his art responsibly, for us, for record execs. He's done his best to create and perform in ways that are true to who he is and he's been pulled in many directions as the leader of this band. It is HIS platform to tell the world what is on his heart and soul. He is a true artist And he runs a business, he's married with kids, he has various interests and he feels compelled to continue to produce music. He handles all these pressures and demands incredibly well. He is an amazing multi-talented man with a strong conscience and few, if any, very close friends. Shona says at home he hangs out by himself pretty much all the time. I think he would benefit from taking time away from all the worldly cares. Take time to be free and to listen for that still small voice. Think, the entire financial burden of touring--jet travel, room accommodations, insurance, food, pay, the overall welfare of about 60 people is jabbing into his shoulders. Plus, he has some health issues and he's not a young man anymore. He wants to continue to contribute in important ways and he doesn't have time for everything. Remember? I think he wishes his voice was as beautiful as ever and that he could dance and thrash and be nuts again. He's a proud dude and doesn't want us to know he's hurting.
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Post by adospencer on Oct 30, 2021 22:01:18 GMT
Several times in the seventies, I dreamt I could hear a new Tull album and desperately tried to remember what Id heard in my dream when I woke up. I remember before "Warchild", it was reviewed in "Sounds" and gave a little quote from one of the songs "the spoils of battles won", which set my imagination into overdrive. This happened a few times in the seventies as I eagerly counted down to each new release. Those days are gone of course, I'm looking forward to the "Zealot gene", but Im expecting something like the last two "IA" releases that I don't play much. Im not excited either that because its a fairly old recording the guitarist on it is Florian? Good player but very generic and unemotional. I know Martin is long gone, but his quirky riffs were a huge part of the thrill of any new Tull release back then. I wanted to share a few thoughts with you guys, but I didn't want to refer to something too esoteric or irrelevant. I see that you look long and hard at this unusual figure, our Gerald Bostick, our Minstrel, this Voice so special. When I told Ian his music saved my life, I mentioned a couple of verses from Aqualung. Immediately, Shona asked if I appreciated his new work, too. "Oh, absolutely!" Ian is very human. This is what I think is and has been going on in him. I could be way, way off. Just my thoughts. I think Ian poured his guts out in Aqualung and that album placed him in a different world, a world of stardom. He is an extraordinarily sensitive man. He is driven, too. He needs to express himself in ways that are important to him. Becoming a rock star is unnerving. He went from a relative unknown to a superstar quickly. Ever since he has tried to manufacture his art responsibly, for us, for record execs. He's done his best to create and perform in ways that are true to who he is and he's been pulled in many directions as the leader of this band. It is HIS platform to tell the world what is on his heart and soul. He is a true artist And he runs a business, he's married with kids, he has various interests and he feels compelled to continue to produce music. He handles all these pressures and demands incredibly well. He is an amazing multi-talented man with a strong conscience and few, if any, very close friends. Shona says at home he hangs out by himself pretty much all the time. I think he would benefit from taking time away from all the worldly cares. Take time to be free and to listen for that still small voice. Think, the entire financial burden of touring--jet travel, room accommodations, insurance, food, pay, the overall welfare of about 60 people is jabbing into his shoulders. Plus, he has some health issues and he's not a young man anymore. He wants to continue to contribute in important ways and he doesn't have time for everything. Remember? I think he wishes his voice was as beautiful as ever and that he could dance and thrash and be nuts again. He's a proud dude and doesn't want us to know he's hurting. Its only Music.
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Post by futureshock on Oct 31, 2021 1:32:59 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! I once dreamt a new Jethro Tull album cover, but upon reflection it wasn't new, it was an inversion of an existing Tull cover. I saw a solid black cover with the band name and album name in raised digital red letters, kind of an inversion of the totally white cover style for "Repeat - The Best Of Jethro Tull - Vol.2". And I'm still looking for the Tull song I'm sure I heard on the radio once, a song with the lines "It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what you are", or something like that, and I've heard every single Tull song released and that particular song is not released by Tull. It was not a live song, it was a studio recording. Still stumped on that one. Maybe there's a band out there who in the late 70's or early 80's released a song with flute and a vocalist imitating Ian's style? I was a big Tull fan then, and I was squirming in my hair cutting seat thinking "what the hell is that, I've never heard that". It was a very well-performed tune. I should have contacted the radio station. Confused in Seattle.
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Post by Catqualung on Oct 31, 2021 6:08:24 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! I once dreamt a new Jethro Tull album cover, but upon reflection it wasn't new, it was an inversion of an existing Tull cover. I saw a solid black cover with the band name and album name in raised digital red letters, kind of an inversion of the totally white cover style for "Repeat - The Best Of Jethro Tull - Vol.2". And I'm still looking for the Tull song I'm sure I heard on the radio once, a song with the lines "It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what you are", or something like that, and I've heard every single Tull song released and that particular song is not released by Tull. It was not a live song, it was a studio recording. Still stumped on that one. Maybe there's a band out there who in the late 70's or early 80's released a song with flute and a vocalist imitating Ian's style? I was a big Tull fan then, and I was squirming in my hair cutting seat thinking "what the hell is that, I've never heard that". It was a very well-performed tune. I should have contacted the radio station. Confused in Seattle. The radio was casually tuned to a station broadcasting from another world (the same alternative world which some of us sometimes visit in our dreams), it sometimes happens.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Oct 31, 2021 10:13:50 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! I once dreamt a new Jethro Tull album cover, but upon reflection it wasn't new, it was an inversion of an existing Tull cover. I saw a solid black cover with the band name and album name in raised digital red letters, kind of an inversion of the totally white cover style for "Repeat - The Best Of Jethro Tull - Vol.2". And I'm still looking for the Tull song I'm sure I heard on the radio once, a song with the lines "It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what you are", or something like that, and I've heard every single Tull song released and that particular song is not released by Tull. It was not a live song, it was a studio recording. Still stumped on that one. Maybe there's a band out there who in the late 70's or early 80's released a song with flute and a vocalist imitating Ian's style? I was a big Tull fan then, and I was squirming in my hair cutting seat thinking "what the hell is that, I've never heard that". It was a very well-performed tune. I should have contacted the radio station. Confused in Seattle. The British band "Audience" were around in the early 70's, and sounded like Tull on some songs, on the album "House on the Hill" the song "Eye to Eye" in particular. The lyrics you quote don't ring any bells with me though.
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Post by adospencer on Oct 31, 2021 10:28:56 GMT
It seems several of us had these experiences of wishing so hard for new albums back then that we dreamed of them! I used to find that if the Radio was on somewhere in the distance and I could only half make it out, several times it seemed like Andersons voice and the unmistakeable Tull time signatures. On further investigation of course it was just that....mistaken! One true Radio story. I once awoke during the night "knowing" that Tull were on the Radio at that moment. I turned on my bedside Radio and there they were. Only after waking properly did I realise how odd this was! Maybe my dental fillings were receiving the broadcast!
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Post by tullabye on Oct 31, 2021 14:02:37 GMT
I did listened to the full album. I did it in a dream, one night last august. Did you ever had the privilege of having dreams in which you listened to imaginary music? I suppose someone else also did! Sometimes I like to think that such music really exists in some other worlds you can connect with while you sleep! But the truth is that our fantasy works a lot during the night! I once dreamt a new Jethro Tull album cover, but upon reflection it wasn't new, it was an inversion of an existing Tull cover. I saw a solid black cover with the band name and album name in raised digital red letters, kind of an inversion of the totally white cover style for "Repeat - The Best Of Jethro Tull - Vol.2". And I'm still looking for the Tull song I'm sure I heard on the radio once, a song with the lines "It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what you are", or something like that, and I've heard every single Tull song released and that particular song is not released by Tull. It was not a live song, it was a studio recording. Still stumped on that one. Maybe there's a band out there who in the late 70's or early 80's released a song with flute and a vocalist imitating Ian's style? I was a big Tull fan then, and I was squirming in my hair cutting seat thinking "what the hell is that, I've never heard that". It was a very well-performed tune. I should have contacted the radio station. Confused in Seattle. Have you heard “ It All Trickles Down?” It’s a somewhat obscure Tull song that has some lyrics that could vaguely be associated with the phrase you quoted...something like “would be the one, the tea on toast, would be the one the Holy Ghost. Would be the Mad Jack to your Queen of Spades” etc.
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