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Post by oldghost on Jan 29, 2022 13:10:25 GMT
Once again I find myself wishing Ian had used an outside producer, the vocals are too much to the fore, and the other guys sound like they are playing in another room. The drums in particular have been strangled. I wouldn't agree about the vocals with exception of "Mine Is The Mountain"...I even think the opposite...in many places on the album the vocals are too low in the mix !
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Post by oldghost on Jan 29, 2022 13:21:57 GMT
The magnificent trio of acoustic songs (9, 10, 11) is pretty much the revisiting of SLOB. "Where Did Saturday Go?" is Sanctuary meets The Jasmine Corridor and "Three Loves Three" safely rides on the wings of Circular Breathing while "In Brief Visitation" gives me a slight hint of The Little Flower Girl (not quite sure though)....To put it simple, Ian in present form is still capable of doing SLOB2...and why not?.. ^^
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Post by bunkerfan on Jan 29, 2022 15:26:38 GMT
re. Mrs Tibbets and Eccles Cake Maybe bunkerfan will elaborate more My mother used to make Eccles cakes and they were delicious but the town of Eccles is nowhere near where I live but here's a couple of facts about the place.... Eccles is a town in the City of Salford in Greater Manchester, England. Eccles is 2.7 miles west of Salford and 3.7 miles west of Manchester, split by the M602 motorway and bordered by the Manchester Ship Canal to the south. The town is famous for the Eccles cake.
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Post by stevep on Jan 29, 2022 19:28:05 GMT
Got my copy of the new album today and listened to it this afternoon. I like the album and think it is a fine addition to the Jethro Tull catalogue. Initially I was not keen on the three songs released early on YouTube but they sound much better when heard with the rest of the album and on CD. I also like the booklet, etc. released with the 2CD/Blue Ray version of the album.
I am amazed at the energy and drive that Ian Anderson has to release this album while in his 70's and with the difficulties of the Covid lockdowns. Hard to believe that I can still buy new Tull music around 50 year after buying my first album. Favourite songs so far "Mrs Tibbets" and "Mine is the Mountain". Some of the other songs will take time to become favourites as has happened with many other Tull albums.
Wonder how it will do regards sales to the general public?
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 29, 2022 22:04:53 GMT
Got my copy of the new album today and listened to it this afternoon. I like the album and think it is a fine addition to the Jethro Tull catalogue. Initially I was not keen on the three songs released early on YouTube but they sound much better when heard with the rest of the album and on CD. I also like the booklet, etc. released with the 2CD/Blue Ray version of the album. I am amazed at the energy and drive that Ian Anderson has to release this album while in his 70's and with the difficulties of the Covid lockdowns. Hard to believe that I can still buy new Tull music around 50 year after buying my first album. Favourite songs so far "Mrs Tibbets" and "Mine is the Mountain". Some of the other songs will take time to become favourites as has happened with many other Tull albums. Wonder how it will do regards sales to the general public? I agree with all you say. I love Mine is the Mountain, and tracks 8-11 all good. I got the same package as you did, but wonder why the Blu-Ray and not DVD? I have a DVD 5.1 system....I have a bluray player but not 5.1...
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Post by stevep on Jan 29, 2022 22:36:32 GMT
That is strange about the 5.1 disk being Blue Ray and not DVD. I think all the Tull box sets used DVD for 5.1 ?
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 29, 2022 22:39:53 GMT
That is strange about the 5.1 disk being Blue Ray and not DVD. I think all the Tull box sets used DVD for 5.1 ? They did Steve...that's what is strange....Blu-ray If it were video I would maybe understand, but it's audio I've not gotten around to trying it out yet.
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Post by tinkletron on Jan 29, 2022 23:27:28 GMT
Got my copy of the new album today and listened to it this afternoon. I like the album and think it is a fine addition to the Jethro Tull catalogue. Initially I was not keen on the three songs released early on YouTube but they sound much better when heard with the rest of the album and on CD. I also like the booklet, etc. released with the 2CD/Blue Ray version of the album. I am amazed at the energy and drive that Ian Anderson has to release this album while in his 70's and with the difficulties of the Covid lockdowns. Hard to believe that I can still buy new Tull music around 50 year after buying my first album. Favourite songs so far "Mrs Tibbets" and "Mine is the Mountain". Some of the other songs will take time to become favourites as has happened with many other Tull albums. Wonder how it will do regards sales to the general public? I agree with all you say. I love Mine is the Mountain, and tracks 8-11 all good. I got the same package as you did, but wonder why the Blu-Ray and not DVD? I have a DVD 5.1 system....I have a bluray player but not 5.1... I am awaiting the same package version and can't wait to hear it on a very high end surround system. jackinthegreen, I'm confused by that statement. If you have a DVD player hooked up to your 5.1 surround receiver, and have a bluray also connected to the receiver than you have bluray 5.1. It's awesome that they went with bluray and didn't skimp out and give us a lossy DVD. DVD's are still compressed audio (more so on CD). Bluray uses fully uncompressed audio. So this is the best it can get! The mega Aqualung set that included the LP came with Bluray. I was a bit disappointed that the book sets were DVD. They still sound amazing though. Has anyone listened to the demo versions? Sometimes I prefer those to the full band recording. Kinda goes along with what someone said about the band contributions being so generic and bland. Ian clearly lets the band have the freedom to do their own thing. While they are great musicians, they are not the composers that Ian is. I wish he would just tell them what to play. A Change of Horses is a perfect example. Beautiful song until you get to the "take it boys!" moment. I always have to fast forward the band solos.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 30, 2022 0:40:32 GMT
My friends ask me if I have heard the new Tull album. Yes, I say, about 12 times My friends ask me what I think. I am not objective about Tull, I respond. You are asking the wrong person.
I love this album end to end. So far, picks of the litter include Mountain and Fisherman but title cut and Barren Beth and Betrayal close behind. No weak tracks. None.
I hear a lot of SLOB, with hints of Homo Erraticus in numerous tracks, a big Rupi outbreak in cuts 8 thru 11, Frankenfield in the title cut and main riff that runs thru title cut, Shoshana and Betrayal. I hear classic Tull meets Cold Dead Reckoning in final cut.
This is one good album and, above all, I hear "Maybe I'm not done yet"
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Post by tinkletron on Jan 30, 2022 0:45:36 GMT
My friends ask me if I have heard the new Tull album. Yes, I say, about 12 times My friends ask me what I think. I am not objective about Tull, I respond. You are asking the wrong person. I love this album end to end. So far, picks of the litter include Mountain and Fisherman but title cut and Barren Beth and Betrayal close behind. No weak tracks. None. I hear a lot of SLOB, with hints of Homo Erraticus in numerous tracks, a big Rupi outbreak in cuts 8 thru 11, Frankenfield in the title cut and main riff that runs thru title cut, Shoshana and Betrayal. I hear classic Tull meets Cold Dead Reckoning in final cut. This is one good album and, above all, I hear "Maybe I'm not done yet" Very encouraging Steelmonkey! How would you rate it against Homo Erraticus? "Yes. 12 times" Hahaha.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 30, 2022 1:23:18 GMT
I agree with all you say. I love Mine is the Mountain, and tracks 8-11 all good. I got the same package as you did, but wonder why the Blu-Ray and not DVD? I have a DVD 5.1 system....I have a bluray player but not 5.1... I am awaiting the same package version and can't wait to hear it on a very high end surround system. jackinthegreen, I'm confused by that statement. If you have a DVD player hooked up to your 5.1 surround receiver, and have a bluray also connected to the receiver than you have bluray 5.1. It's awesome that they went with bluray and didn't skimp out and give us a lossy DVD. DVD's are still compressed audio (more so on CD). Bluray uses fully uncompressed audio. So this is the best it can get! The mega Aqualung set that included the LP came with Bluray. I was a bit disappointed that the book sets were DVD. They still sound amazing though. Has anyone listened to the demo versions? Sometimes I prefer those to the full band recording. Kinda goes along with what someone said about the band contributions being so generic and bland. Ian clearly lets the band have the freedom to do their own thing. While they are great musicians, they are not the composers that Ian is. I wish he would just tell them what to play. A Change of Horses is a perfect example. Beautiful song until you get to the "take it boys!" moment. I always have to fast forward the band solos. My 5.1 DVD system is all in one....so DVD's play through the system........my blu-ray is a stand alone system......which plays direct to the tv...the blu=ray is not connected to the 5.1 system, so why not just release the music on DVD? Yes, with wiring I could connect the blu-ray to my 5.1 DVD system but there is no need really... Every box set up to now...and I have them all has been DVD 5.1, so that's my point.
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Post by tinkletron on Jan 30, 2022 1:29:53 GMT
I am awaiting the same package version and can't wait to hear it on a very high end surround system. jackinthegreen, I'm confused by that statement. If you have a DVD player hooked up to your 5.1 surround receiver, and have a bluray also connected to the receiver than you have bluray 5.1. It's awesome that they went with bluray and didn't skimp out and give us a lossy DVD. DVD's are still compressed audio (more so on CD). Bluray uses fully uncompressed audio. So this is the best it can get! The mega Aqualung set that included the LP came with Bluray. I was a bit disappointed that the book sets were DVD. They still sound amazing though. Has anyone listened to the demo versions? Sometimes I prefer those to the full band recording. Kinda goes along with what someone said about the band contributions being so generic and bland. Ian clearly lets the band have the freedom to do their own thing. While they are great musicians, they are not the composers that Ian is. I wish he would just tell them what to play. A Change of Horses is a perfect example. Beautiful song until you get to the "take it boys!" moment. I always have to fast forward the band solos. My 5.1 DVD system is all in one....so DVD's play through the system........my blu-ray is a stand alone system......which plays direct to the tv...the blu=ray is not connected to the 5.1 system, so why not just release the music on DVD? Yes, with wiring I could connect the blu-ray to my 5.1 DVD system but there is no need really... Every box set up to now...and I have them all has been DVD 5.1, so that's my point. Oh that is quite the bummer. Perhaps you or someone could rip the bluray down to a DVD for you so you can enjoy the surround. Gosh, I haven't owned a PC is quite some time that even had a disc drive. At least you have that work around with the wiring.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 30, 2022 3:11:57 GMT
Hi Jim, your order is arriving early! Estimated delivery: Wed, Feb 02
OMG !!! GROUNDHOG DAY !!!
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 30, 2022 6:44:22 GMT
www.firstpost.com/After 23 years, Jethro Tull strikes back with original music: Why Ian Anderson's band hasn't been rendered irrelevant with timeFrom their blues rock roots, Jethro Tull traverses the jazz fusion space, harnessed classical influences while also dabbling with folk and hard rock, thus creating a sound that is both distinctly Jethro Tull and universal. Lakshmi Govindrajan Javeri January 30, 2022 08:40:12 IST In #TheMusicThatMadeUs, senior journalist Lakshmi Govindrajan Javeri chronicles the impact that musicians and their art have on our lives, how they mould the industry by rewriting its rules and how they shape us into the people we become: their greatest legacies. Everything about Jethro Tull is unusual. Starting from its flummoxing name to being a pioneering rock sound centred on the flute, the British band helmed by Ian Anderson is an anomaly that has continued to inspire over 50 years since its inception. What started as a predominantly blues band in 1967, featuring vocalist-flautist-guitarist Anderson and fellow guitarist Martin Barre, has over half a century morphed into a revolving-door band member experience, along with a whole host of drummers and bassists who have made their mark, or not. Yet at the core has been Anderson’s vision for this collective, spearheading a progressive movement that combined witty and incisive storytelling on a tapestry of intricate musical arrangements and rich melodic structures. Their range, as seen in the blues-rich debut Stand Up and the monumental Thick As A Brick to Heavy Horses, Stormwatch and Songs From The Wood, is nothing short of a musical education for their peers and generations of musicians who have followed. The result has been a five-decade musical treatise on Anderson’s various musings: religion, parenting, culture, the environment, relationships and more. So much of their music has been thematically ahead of its time if not for being sharply contemporary. If their sound has been an amalgamation of the various musical influences of the time, then Anderson’s lyrics have frequently pushed you to question status quo, mull over intellectual inertia or caution you about moral atrophy. All this has been with a generous helping of the frontman’s typically acerbic sense of humour. Journalists, in fact, are frequently reminded of how woefully boring their questions are at press conferences, and so Anderson takes it upon himself to not-so-gently pre-empt this with a FAQs list. Boredom does not sit well with Anderson who has constantly looked to push the boundaries of the genre from 1967-2012, and then 2017-till date. From their blues rock roots, the band traverses the jazz fusion space, harnessed classical influences while also dabbling with folk and hard rock, thus creating a sound that is both distinctly Jethro Tull and universal. And now, more than 19 years since their last album, the first in 23 years to contain original content, progressive rock veterans Jethro Tull are back with The Zealot Gene. The use of religious ideas and spiritual motifs are not uncommon for a band like Tull, so the zealot component is one that is sure to be backed by much of Anderson’s thought processes. In interviews before, Anderson has spoken about The Bible as a rich source of characters and plots for a storyteller, one that he truly identifies with. When you look at Jethro Tull’s extensive discography, it feels like a music library that contains within it solutions to every kind of world problem, where neither the answers nor the questions are rendered irrelevant with time. Given the band’s penchant for sonic experimenting, it is no surprise that the list of musicians that Jethro Tull has inspired spans various genres. From Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, and Rush to Joe Bonamassa, Eddie Vedder and more, scores of artists have been drawn to Tull’s musical philosophy that the songs can be true to their rock roots without losing their essence when a flute or jazz instruments take centre-stage. Anderson made it acceptable to play whatever instrument befit the song with a kind of confidence that shows in so many of these musicians’ path-breaking musical decisions. Be it experimenting with time signature or exercising restraint as a frontman and letting the instruments speak, the Jethro Tull way of composing and performing should be a ready reckoner for budding musicians. If rockstars are known for their flamboyance, Ian Anderson is a man playing a flute while balancing like a flamingo, making fun of you for answering a phone call during his performance. He has seriously done that at Mumbai’s Shanmukhananda Hall in the mid-2000s, and was applauded cheerily by those who were getting annoyed by the incessant ringing. This Indophile has performed several times in India, each time to a packed audience that has come to love his interactions just as much as being nostalgic for Tull’s music. Anderson has always been candid over his opinion on his vocals, admitting that while it lacks the genius of a Robert Plant, it does the job for the songs he writes. While that may be partly true, Tull’s enduring legacy rests on the dynamic nature of the band’s sound and the bandleader’s potent combination of self-awareness, vision, and talent that has only matured and reinvented itself with time. The Zealot Gene is another opportunity for Anderson and his band to show us that they maybe boomers but they certainly ain’t living in the past. In #TheMusicThatMadeUs, senior journalist Lakshmi Govindrajan Javeri chronicles the impact that musicians and their art have on our lives, how they mould the industry by rewriting its rules and how they shape us into the people we become: their greatest legacies. Updated Date: January 30, 2022 08:40:12 IST link
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Post by smint100 on Jan 30, 2022 11:49:50 GMT
I probably shouldn't be confessing this in here, but yesterday I did something very VERY stupid (even for me! ) I unpacked the book, took out the CD, and then found my husband ensconced in the office, so returned to the living room and played it on the Blu Ray player through the Surround Sound speakers. Yep. I left the Blu Ray disk in the pack, and played the CD *sigh* Anyway, the Blu Ray disk is now in the Blu Ray Player, and the CD is in the Merc. Have just taken it out for a run as it's been sitting in the garage too long, and boy, did it sound good! I even left the roof up for the maximum effect. It's interesting how tracks come into focus at different times. The title track has moved up in my favourites, and Barren Beth is up there too from the new tracks. Looking forward to becoming more familiar with the other tracks. Also, the Benefit 50th anniversary box set happened to fall into my basket (late birthday present) so am looking forward to putting that through its paces Happy listening everyone! Also, Eccles Cakes are more like little pastries with a nod to mince pies Saint Delia's Eccles Cake recipeI have no idea what the link is to the mother of the person who dropped the first atomic bomb as he was born in Illinois - other than going home for the very mundane tea and cakes
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 30, 2022 14:10:24 GMT
'Ruven from Deutschland found this at REWE Market' It looks like an electric bolt of energy going from the magazine on the left to Ian Anderson on the right !!!! DANKE RUVEN
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Post by smint100 on Jan 30, 2022 14:14:35 GMT
The woman on the front of DYNAMIT magazine looks particularly impressed! I mean, I'm a big Tull fan, but it's a bit too nippy outside to be doing that
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 30, 2022 14:50:27 GMT
'Ruven from Deutschland found this at REWE Market' It looks like an electric bolt of energy going from the magazine on the left to Ian Anderson on the right !!!! DANKE RUVEN The woman on the front of DYNAMIT magazine looks particularly impressed! I mean, I'm a big Tull fan, but it's a bit too nippy outside to be doing that TULL CHICKS RULE @ any temperature Göttingen, Germany Sunday Scattered Showers 46°
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 30, 2022 17:18:30 GMT
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Post by oldghost on Jan 30, 2022 17:32:50 GMT
Does anyone else here have the impression that the ending of Barren Beth is inexplicably abrupt with an ugly key change and that the closing instrumental theme should have been developed at least a bit more before ending ? The aforementioned issue pretty much worsens the overall impression of the track for me...
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 30, 2022 17:44:20 GMT
Does anyone else here have the impression that the ending of Barren Beth is inexplicably abrupt with an ugly key change and that the closing instrumental theme should have been developed at least a bit more before ending ? The aforementioned issue pretty much worsens the overall impression of the track for me... I get your drift but that's IA's song writing quirkiness all over. It's something I've come to expect after 54 years.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 30, 2022 22:13:30 GMT
There's a great documentary / interview with Paul Tibbets on you tube in two parts, made in 2000 when he would have been 85, he died in 2007. here is part one :- www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG2n3EmNtqY
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jan 30, 2022 22:14:57 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 31, 2022 3:22:43 GMT
I am still getting texts and emails from friends telling me there is a new Jethro Tull album. That's nothing. A woman I was seeing not long ago, who has known me for about 40 years and was quite aware I was a bicycle messenger for 27 of those years, recently told me to be careful riding my bike in the rain as it makes the roads slippery. I wish I had known that all those years. If not for myself, at least to tell the other guys. I swear.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 31, 2022 8:13:16 GMT
A well written and lengthy article about The Zealot Gene. Hit the link below the image to reveal all www.loudersound.com/The making of Jethro Tull's The Zealot GeneBy Johnny Sharp ( Prog ) published about 15 hours ago Ian Anderson discusses making the new Jethro Tull album The Zealot Gene, the band's first for 18 years Link
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 31, 2022 11:45:29 GMT
FREE DOWNLOAD of this podcast LINK Ep321: The Return of Jethro Tull w Ian Anderson
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 31, 2022 13:06:38 GMT
Jethro Tull – The Zealot Gene Interview (Part 4) 457 views Jan 31, 2022 Jethro Tull 154K subscribers
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 1, 2022 2:14:04 GMT
Hi JIM , your order has arrived!
Delivered on Mon, Jan 31, 2022
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 1, 2022 6:36:20 GMT
www.goldminemag.com/Fabulous Flip Sides – Jethro Tull – Ian Anderson InterviewIan Anderson discusses Jethro Tull’s new album “The Zealot Gene” and celebrates the 50th anniversary of “Living in the Past.” Warren Kurtz Jan 30, 2022 link
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 1, 2022 8:43:39 GMT
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