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Post by ash on Feb 6, 2013 21:25:47 GMT
I'll putting that in the Sky planner ASAP
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 7, 2013 9:00:41 GMT
Wow, if it does end up somewhere online where Americans can watch it I'd be very interested. It would be great to see Ian talking about Thick as a Brick with other people rather than hearing him talk about it by himself, as he has to do so often. Welcome to the Jethro Tull Forum journeyman - have a look around the place as I'm sure you'll find many items of interest. Your point about the Vintage TV interview is a good one. Should be a rather fine TV programme and one that will no doubt appear on a youtube video very soon after the transmission. MD
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 17, 2013 11:58:33 GMT
DON'T FORGET !! Ian's on Sky Vintage tonight along with the lovely and delightful Simon Nicol at 8.30pm
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Post by broadsword on Feb 17, 2013 14:52:14 GMT
Damnit, don't have Sky TV, such is life.
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Post by bunkerfan on Feb 17, 2013 18:37:08 GMT
Damnit, don't have Sky TV, such is life. You and me have far too much in common broadsword. Neither of us has Sky TV, neither of us can afford to go to the Royal Albert Hall Concert. So I suppose it proves that we're both skint but happy to be fans of Jethro Tull. I'll settle for that.
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 17, 2013 19:12:20 GMT
Damnit, don't have Sky TV, such is life. I think you may see it online, but which one SKY channel? tv.sky.com/tv-guide
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 17, 2013 19:15:58 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 17, 2013 23:34:43 GMT
Nothing much or new in the programme. He confirmed that TAAB3 or the "trilogy" is def on the cards for 2014. Gerald is learning to play the guitar so that must mean yet another change of guitarist ...God preserve us Tull fans from yet another change ..have we not been through enough?! ;D ;D I was watching his body language on the interview...and contrasting it with the chunks of TAAB that was shown -he really is rather a complex character. He looked uncomfortable in the interview, mind you Janice was a bit full on and the set up of the show gave the impression that it would be a longer discussion than half an hour so maybe it was all a bit awkward. He gives the impression of an ageing music academic in these interviews rather than an ageing rock star. I think that he has always been slightly embarrassed at the whole music performing thing anyway hence the wild theatrics onstage but what do I know I haven't even had my photograph taken with him
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 17, 2013 23:49:18 GMT
That means Ryan O'Donnell is going to play guitar in 2014. He is the new Gerald. ;D
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 18, 2013 0:04:14 GMT
That means Ryan O'Donnell is going to play guitar in 2014. He is the new Gerald. ;D Baffle is the new key word. About the only time Ian became animated in the interview was when a journalist, who was also a guest, said that his kids were a bit baffled when he played TAAB to them. Ian said he liked that word and that was how he felt coming off the stage after playing it for a couple of hours every night ;D
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Post by tullist on Feb 18, 2013 15:37:16 GMT
That means Ryan O'Donnell is going to play guitar in 2014. He is the new Gerald. ;D Baffle is the new key word. About the only time Ian became animated in the interview was when a journalist, who was also a guest, said that his kids were a bit baffled when he played TAAB to them. Ian said he liked that word and that was how he felt coming off the stage after playing it for a couple of hours every night ;D Patti I am guessing Simon Nicol had no observations re Thick as a Brick? I am guessing they had him there to talk about that new Fairport book. Over the past 28 years, since A New Day started, I have come upon so much Tull information, that long since there is very little I feel I need to know. However if any of the other support acts, other musicians who were alive in the period, had positive memories of it, (I suspect most never really heard it but remember the newspaper) I would be interested to hear their take. Pretty sure the Fairports did not open on any of the Brick shows, though I think they did the prior year, and a few times back in the early years. Of course Captain Beefheart, Steeleye Span, the Eagles, possibly Yes, Wild Turkey all come to mind as openers at points on that tour in its 2 legs though the USA, spring and fall. (I do not particularly care what the Eagles thought of it, lol) Peter Knight from Steeleye is a Facebook friend, as is Simon Nicol who I do talk to once in awhile when something I post catches his interest, possibly I should bother Peter to see if he went out in the audience to watch the show at any point. There again maybe I won't. I could easily see where a guy might have a take on it like, Yeah, but what about me? Frick Jethro Tull, what about me?
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 18, 2013 19:04:23 GMT
Baffle is the new key word. About the only time Ian became animated in the interview was when a journalist, who was also a guest, said that his kids were a bit baffled when he played TAAB to them. Ian said he liked that word and that was how he felt coming off the stage after playing it for a couple of hours every night ;D Patti I am guessing Simon Nicol had no observations re Thick as a Brick? I am guessing they had him there to talk about that new Fairport book. Over the past 28 years, since A New Day started, I have come upon so much Tull information, that long since there is very little I feel I need to know. However if any of the other support acts, other musicians who were alive in the period, had positive memories of it, (I suspect most never really heard it but remember the newspaper) I would be interested to hear their take. Pretty sure the Fairports did not open on any of the Brick shows, though I think they did the prior year, and a few times back in the early years. Of course Captain Beefheart, Steeleye Span, the Eagles, possibly Yes, Wild Turkey all come to mind as openers at points on that tour in its 2 legs though the USA, spring and fall. (I do not particularly care what the Eagles thought of it, lol) Peter Knight from Steeleye is a Facebook friend, as is Simon Nicol who I do talk to once in awhile when something I post catches his interest, possibly I should bother Peter to see if he went out in the audience to watch the show at any point. There again maybe I won't. I could easily see where a guy might have a take on it like, Yeah, but what about me? Frick Jethro Tull, what about me? To be honest Ray it was a bit of a let-down. The idea of the show, I presume because I’ve never watched it before, is to have three guests review two albums. They also have to decide whether they consider them iconic albums. The only problem is that 30 mins is too short a time to do that properly as well as including performances of the artists. This week it was TAAB and Christy Moore’s Ride On. Simon didn’t say too much, didn’t really have much chance too, except to say that TAAB was ground-breaking (Ian quipped he mean't wind breaking!) and paved the way in prog albums. Ian commented on Christy Moore saying that he dipped in and out of Irish music re Planxty etc . In fairness these type of interviews with Ian aren’t going to throw up too much that we don’t know already. However he did mention the trilogy of TAAB and what he was working on now. I’ll post the link when it comes in case I blinked and missed something else
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 18, 2013 20:02:08 GMT
Patti I am guessing Simon Nicol had no observations re Thick as a Brick? I am guessing they had him there to talk about that new Fairport book. Over the past 28 years, since A New Day started, I have come upon so much Tull information, that long since there is very little I feel I need to know. However if any of the other support acts, other musicians who were alive in the period, had positive memories of it, (I suspect most never really heard it but remember the newspaper) I would be interested to hear their take. Pretty sure the Fairports did not open on any of the Brick shows, though I think they did the prior year, and a few times back in the early years. Of course Captain Beefheart, Steeleye Span, the Eagles, possibly Yes, Wild Turkey all come to mind as openers at points on that tour in its 2 legs though the USA, spring and fall. (I do not particularly care what the Eagles thought of it, lol) Peter Knight from Steeleye is a Facebook friend, as is Simon Nicol who I do talk to once in awhile when something I post catches his interest, possibly I should bother Peter to see if he went out in the audience to watch the show at any point. There again maybe I won't. I could easily see where a guy might have a take on it like, Yeah, but what about me? Frick Jethro Tull, what about me? To be honest Ray it was a bit of a let-down. The idea of the show, I presume because I’ve never watched it before, is to have three guests review two albums. They also have to decide whether they consider them iconic albums. The only problem is that 30 mins is too short a time to do that properly as well as including performances of the artists. This week it was TAAB and Christy Moore’s Ride On. Simon didn’t say too much, didn’t really have much chance too, except to say that TAAB was ground-breaking (Ian quipped he mean't wind breaking!) and paved the way in prog albums. Ian commented on Christy Moore saying that he dipped in and out of Irish music re Planxty etc . In fairness these type of interviews with Ian aren’t going to throw up too much that we don’t know already. However he did mention the trilogy of TAAB and what he was working on now. I’ll post the link when it comes in case I blinked and missed something else It was a wasted effort. Simon didn't really have that much to say except general platitudes about both albums featured. Janice Long was her usual fawning self, Daily Express deputy editor Michael Booker didn't really say anything of immediate interest and IA looked as though he'd rather be somewhere else. A missed opportunity imo.
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 18, 2013 21:18:37 GMT
Well, for those who could not watch the program, here is complete The Janice Long Review Show Ian Anderson, Simon Nicol & Michael Brooker Vintage.TV. February 17, 2013
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 18, 2013 21:50:37 GMT
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Post by tullist on Feb 18, 2013 23:02:47 GMT
How bout our Remy, some sort of Tull Robin Hood from Spain. Maybe I was expecting the worst and it came out better than I hoped but I really liked it. Firstly seeing Ian paying lip service to the likes of Planxty is absolutely interesting to me, (one of my favorite of hundreds of favorite quotes from him was the one about not liking folk music because it reeked of duffle coats and students)I knew he never actively disliked folk music per se, but folk culture circa 1965 or even now, I have first hand knowledge of what he is talking about, though such of this culture as I have been exposed to does feature alot of grade one people, but that sing a long stuff, man, makes me and probably Ian want to bite someone. I am just not one for holding hands and swaying back and forth, even to sing Meet on the Ledge. Ok, there I make an exception. I do recall one of the earlier A New Days making mention of Dave and Ian late at night on the coach somewhere in Europe probably listening to Planxty and I figured, yeah, I thought so, you like it too. Can't say I was particularly moved by the sweaty clips of Christy Moore here, though he challenges Ian on the sweat count. Simon was his usual quick witted self, though I suspect in the main he is not really a fan of Tull, I suspect the same is true of Richard Thompson. Even Dave Pegg was a good sport about most of it, but I really wonder how much of a fan he is, obviously he is a great guy and a wonderful player. I know that stand in Tony Williams said something about not liking Tull music much at all in one of the old A New Day's, that he was merely old friends of the Blackpool contingent. Indeed I believe both Barrie and Martin would take a pass on over half the catalogue. The under rated Doane I would mark as a real fan. In such I was pleased to see this Irish guy from the Melody Maker or NME speak in positive terms at least of TAAB. By 1976 you would have been hard pressed to see anything remotely positive about Tull in either of those journals. I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK)when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 18, 2013 23:29:41 GMT
I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK)when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. I think it was always difficult to categorise Tull. They weren't exclusively rock - too folky was the criticism in my rock friends camp. However they weren't "pure" Folk either, based on a traditional,regional style. Maybe they combined too much for those with a limited ear ?
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Post by tullist on Feb 19, 2013 5:47:09 GMT
Patti I really believe, of course speaking for myself, that full reception of Ian Anderson and his various cohorts down 45 years requires a committment that is not at all unlike religion, especially in terms of faith. As you know finally I have never been under any delusion that Ian Anderson is anything other finally than another man, of course a deeply impressive one. But I do believe that he was given a skill to open windows that I believe have a sort of eternal view, or moreso always was, always will be. Additionally I believe having operated outside of the behaviors of nearly all their contemporaries had a big part with how I am guessing they are perceived in the main, I hope I am wrong. I suspect someone like Fairport Convention who have had a more birdseye view of Tull at the very least a deep respect for their professionalism, which I believe in part transposed into Fairports own stage presentation for awhile. But I know how many of their records, particularly post 1970 and post the mindset that it was ok to like them, I find to be very difficult to appreciate off of only one close listen, I mean, I can kind of see how they got bad reviews for their records, it just does not operate on a similar level to anything I am aware of, for better or worse, and there definitely is faith involved, and is most usually very difficult to absorb in one sitting. It ain't in a groove at all man, not usually anyway. If there are some actual Tull fans out there in musical world, I have long wished they would speak the hell up. I have long known I will be pissed off, (presuming he dies before me, lol)if mf's wax poetic about him upon his demise. Yeah I know about Johnny Rotten liking Aqualung, I am talking long standing Tull fans. And of course there is that which Ian once said he want's on his headstone, "Any chance of a wakeup call?"
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 19, 2013 8:52:15 GMT
Well, for those who could not watch the program, here is complete The Janice Long Review Show Ian Anderson, Simon Nicol & Michael Brooker Vintage.TV. February 17, 2013 Cheers Remy
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 19, 2013 9:20:47 GMT
I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK)when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. I think it was always difficult to categorise Tull. They weren't exclusively rock - too folky was the criticism in my rock friends camp. However they weren't "pure" Folk either, based on a traditional,regional style. Maybe they combined too much for those with a limited ear ? Very true. The few Tull fans in the British media who have supported the band are very few and far between. Tommy Vance and Alan Freeman (both now sadly departed) were two and the only person now who could do justice to the Tull legacy on British TV and radio would be Bob Harris who has demonstrated in the past for his admiration for the band and IA. I must add that the BBC TV presenter who has surprised me over the last few years is Bill Turnbull who interviewed IA on BBC breakfast TV a year or so ago and was visibly enthusiastic about IA being in the studio and seemed to ask the right questions. And as Ray has surmissed, would the Tull legacy have been different if IA had been American - yes I reckon it would have.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 19, 2013 9:48:16 GMT
I think it was always difficult to categorise Tull. They weren't exclusively rock - too folky was the criticism in my rock friends camp. However they weren't "pure" Folk either, based on a traditional,regional style. Maybe they combined too much for those with a limited ear ? Very true. The few Tull fans in the British media who have supported the band are very few and far between. Tommy Vance and Alan Freeman (both now sadly departed) were two and the only person now who could do justice to the Tull legacy on British TV and radio would be Bob Harris who has demonstrated in the past for his admiration for the band and IA. I must add that the BBC TV presenter who has surprised me over the last few years is Bill Turnbull who interviewed IA on BBC breakfast TV a year or so ago and was visibly enthusiastic about IA being in the studio and seemed to ask the right questions. And as Ray has surmissed, would the Tull legacy have been different if IA had been American - yes I reckon it would have. If Ian had been American we would have missed out on his British quirky magical, mystical, earthiness. Not saying that Americans don't have all the above but it would have been interpreteted in a different way.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 19, 2013 10:08:06 GMT
If there are some actual Tull fans out there in musical world, I have long wished they would speak the hell up. I have long known I will be pissed off, (presuming he dies before me, lol)if mf's wax poetic about him upon his demise. Yeah I know about Johnny Rotten liking Aqualung, I am talking long standing Tull fans. And of course there is that which Ian once said he want's on his headstone, "Any chance of a wakeup call?" The media will report with all the platitudes; "Standing on one leg,cod piece wearing, man who brought the flute into rock" I think that's yet another reason why he should write a full and frank autobiography. It would give greater insight into what inspires/ed him and also get the world talking about him in a wider context. His need for privacy probably puts him off that venture. However he said that he was put off TAAB2 for years and look what happened....... so hold that thought Ian and give us a book... get Gerald to write it and leave the guitar playing to .......?
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 19, 2013 15:36:46 GMT
I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK) when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. Something about why Americans love Tull so much: During the early 70's most concerts were unrestricted parties which many folks did partake. Even if Ian was discouraged by a rowdy bunch of hippies he must also acknowledge their devotion. With his generally comedic style and imagination, he won millions of fans who were on a different level. They believed that Ian was just as spaced out as they were back then. Who would ever put a dead ballerina on a screen and bring her back to life?...Tull As time went by the SuperGroup became the Classic Rock Group of later years. Most of his fan base was older and had different priorities. The True Tull Fans remain on a different level. Now younger fans are being exposed to this Rock and Roll creativity for the first time. Whatever happens is up to them. America still loves Tull.
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Post by sealion on Feb 19, 2013 16:26:14 GMT
Sadly pretty much all the decent stuff is broadcast at stupid times, but at least it gets broadcast! You need to trawl through your Radio Times...
Talking of broadcasting did you hear the Trilogy at 3 feature on Planet Rock today? The featured band was, yes you've guessed it, Jethro Tull. And the 3 songs receiving the most votes? Yes you've guessed - Locomotive Breath, Aqualung & Songs From The Wood. Mmmm...somewhat predictable methinks but at least Tull were featured so I'm not complaining. Just think, if everyone had voted for TAAB 1 & 2 Tull would've taken over the airwaves for an hour & a half!
Only 131 days 'til the Albert Hall....
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Post by tullist on Feb 19, 2013 18:09:28 GMT
To me it would depend which year you are referring to in the seventies, speaking from a Chicago perspective signs showing, of the rowdy aspect to which you refer, and very usually not hippies but people with long hair who liked copious amounts of alcohol maybe mixed with a phenabarbitol chaser, which gave way to the yet more obnoxious cocaine/alcohol mixture around 76/7. However, in 72, 3, when first I saw them, those crowds were respectful, with, at a guesstimate, somewhere between 40 and 50 percent on hallucinogens (and still those potent levels of hallucinogens with some relation to Owsley Stanley, lol, which also became less common, more usually in markedly less potent and less clean forms as that decade moved on) and nothing short of a cumulus cloud of marijuana in the hall. I will further trace this development to very specific years of 74, 75 as the milieu of truly progressive radio, drawing from disparate musical sources outside rock and roll, gave way to corporate radio, and new arrivals were coming on the heels of Queen and Genesis as opposed to this more disparate format with links solidly in the sixties that gave birth to Jethro Tull and others, and this ceased to be the case as newer "artists ", (god I actually hate that term because most mf's aren't) found their influence in the rock bands as opposed to say the blues, and to a one I believe those second generation bands have been pretty lame, not a widely held opinion. Re Stones/Aerosmith, U2/Led Zeppelin, the Who, a couple other examples that do not cross my mind now. To me a band like Queen for instance came totally packaged and ready for corporate radio. I can recall, maybe those first 5 years of seeing Tull, or even longer, it seemed they would never come on stage until the crowd was completely silent. This after the very British guy would come out with his recitation of what would not be welcome, re "Flying missiles and projectiles". A more officious and businesslike road crew one never saw, I remember one year the last thing one guy did was come back out and dust off Barries cymbals, getting them to the precise gleam. And of course on the Brick tour when the final act was bringing out Ian's flute which got a sustained ovation.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 19, 2013 18:16:08 GMT
I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK) when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. Something about why Americans love Tull so much: During the early 70's most concerts were unrestricted parties which many folks did partake. Even if Ian was discouraged by a rowdy bunch of hippies he must also acknowledge their devotion. With his generally comedic style and imagination, he won millions of fans who were on a different level. They believed that Ian was just as spaced out as they were back then. Who would ever put a dead ballerina on a screen and bring her back to life?...Tull As time went by the SuperGroup became the Classic Rock Group of later years. Most of his fan base was older and had different priorities. The True Tull Fans remain on a different level. Now younger fans are being exposed to this Rock and Roll creativity for the first time. Whatever happens is up to them. America still loves Tull. And all the better for it. There's a very big following for the band in all parts of Europe, in Israel and also New Zealand and Australia and I once met a die hard fan from Zimbabwe.
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 19, 2013 18:33:25 GMT
How bout our Remy, some sort of Tull Robin Hood from Spain. Maybe I was expecting the worst and it came out better than I hoped but I really liked it. Firstly seeing Ian paying lip service to the likes of Planxty is absolutely interesting to me, (one of my favorite of hundreds of favorite quotes from him was the one about not liking folk music because it reeked of duffle coats and students)I knew he never actively disliked folk music per se, but folk culture circa 1965 or even now, I have first hand knowledge of what he is talking about, though such of this culture as I have been exposed to does feature alot of grade one people, but that sing a long stuff, man, makes me and probably Ian want to bite someone. I am just not one for holding hands and swaying back and forth, even to sing Meet on the Ledge. Ok, there I make an exception. I do recall one of the earlier A New Days making mention of Dave and Ian late at night on the coach somewhere in Europe probably listening to Planxty and I figured, yeah, I thought so, you like it too. Can't say I was particularly moved by the sweaty clips of Christy Moore here, though he challenges Ian on the sweat count. Simon was his usual quick witted self, though I suspect in the main he is not really a fan of Tull, I suspect the same is true of Richard Thompson. Even Dave Pegg was a good sport about most of it, but I really wonder how much of a fan he is, obviously he is a great guy and a wonderful player. I know that stand in Tony Williams said something about not liking Tull music much at all in one of the old A New Day's, that he was merely old friends of the Blackpool contingent. Indeed I believe both Barrie and Martin would take a pass on over half the catalogue. The under rated Doane I would mark as a real fan. In such I was pleased to see this Irish guy from the Melody Maker or NME speak in positive terms at least of TAAB. By 1976 you would have been hard pressed to see anything remotely positive about Tull in either of those journals. I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK)when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. Well, as in Spain I could not see the program, I have my own Robin Hood, as I have not asked permission to give his name publicly, I call him Mr X, then thanks Mr X, the Tull family is very big! As for Tull, has not been adequately recognized in the UK I totally agree, this often happens with many bands, are more recognized outside its borders than in their own country, but in the case of Jethro Tull, I think in general has been underestimated, I think the causes are many and give to a debate. Maybe Tull fans can hear things that others are not able to hear? I sincerely believe that if, or at least are willing to hear new things with an open mind. One thing we have seen is that Tull fans are normally unconditional, on Facebook and internet in general, are the most active forums, also their associations and fan clubs are usually the most active in terms of conventions and events, is why I always say that Tull fans are made of sterner stuff,or as they say in Spain. "los fans de Tull comen aparte" " Tull fans eat apart" ;D
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 19, 2013 18:35:59 GMT
I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK) when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. Something about why Americans love Tull so much: During the early 70's most concerts were unrestricted parties which many folks did partake. Even if Ian was discouraged by a rowdy bunch of hippies he must also acknowledge their devotion. With his generally comedic style and imagination, he won millions of fans who were on a different level. They believed that Ian was just as spaced out as they were back then. Who would ever put a dead ballerina on a screen and bring her back to life?...Tull As time went by the SuperGroup became the Classic Rock Group of later years. Most of his fan base was older and had different priorities. The True Tull Fans remain on a different level. Now younger fans are being exposed to this Rock and Roll creativity for the first time. Whatever happens is up to them. America still loves Tull. Hits the nail firmly and squarely on the head as to why we all love Tull. I like your point about his views on hippies - I followed that camp and combined it with a love of Tull............ Mr A
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 19, 2013 18:44:12 GMT
If Ian had been American we would have missed out on his British quirky magical, mystical, earthiness. Not saying that Americans don't have all the above but it would have been interpreteted in a different way. I agree, although it is in America where Tull has the most number of fans, I can not imagine Tull music emerging from a country without Celtic influences or celtic roots. In northern Spain there are many groups with Tull influences, especially in Galicia (the name of this region says it all) northern Spain was invaded by the Celts is why Celtic culture is deeply rooted in the northern of the peninsula, many of these musicians began in tribute bands and today have their own style, but is recognizable the Tull music influence, in groups like Mago de Oz, Ñu, Jose Carlos Molina, Fernando Ponce de León, Celtas Cortos, Judith Mateo and many others...the majority tullianos members and Ian's fans
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Post by markridley on Feb 19, 2013 20:48:31 GMT
How bout our Remy, some sort of Tull Robin Hood from Spain. Maybe I was expecting the worst and it came out better than I hoped but I really liked it. Firstly seeing Ian paying lip service to the likes of Planxty is absolutely interesting to me, (one of my favorite of hundreds of favorite quotes from him was the one about not liking folk music because it reeked of duffle coats and students)I knew he never actively disliked folk music per se, but folk culture circa 1965 or even now, I have first hand knowledge of what he is talking about, though such of this culture as I have been exposed to does feature alot of grade one people, but that sing a long stuff, man, makes me and probably Ian want to bite someone. I am just not one for holding hands and swaying back and forth, even to sing Meet on the Ledge. Ok, there I make an exception. I do recall one of the earlier A New Days making mention of Dave and Ian late at night on the coach somewhere in Europe probably listening to Planxty and I figured, yeah, I thought so, you like it too. Can't say I was particularly moved by the sweaty clips of Christy Moore here, though he challenges Ian on the sweat count. Simon was his usual quick witted self, though I suspect in the main he is not really a fan of Tull, I suspect the same is true of Richard Thompson. Even Dave Pegg was a good sport about most of it, but I really wonder how much of a fan he is, obviously he is a great guy and a wonderful player. I know that stand in Tony Williams said something about not liking Tull music much at all in one of the old A New Day's, that he was merely old friends of the Blackpool contingent. Indeed I believe both Barrie and Martin would take a pass on over half the catalogue. The under rated Doane I would mark as a real fan. In such I was pleased to see this Irish guy from the Melody Maker or NME speak in positive terms at least of TAAB. By 1976 you would have been hard pressed to see anything remotely positive about Tull in either of those journals. I occasionally have wondered why the UK has never embraced Tull as something as distinctly British, at least to me, as Sheffield Steel, (yet they will embrace Status Quo, I mean ACK, freaking YUCK)when I look the other way and see, in general, America's embrace of the Band, in part for their distinctly American characteristics. I suppose it is still 2 different things but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Even at the peak of their stardom Tull was never as big in the UK as in the USA. Well, as in Spain I could not see the program, I have my own Robin Hood, as I have not asked permission to give his name publicly, I call him Mr X, then thanks Mr X, the Tull family is very big! As for Tull, has not been adequately recognized in the UK I totally agree, this often happens with many bands, are more recognized outside its borders than in their own country, but in the case of Jethro Tull, I think in general has been underestimated, I think the causes are many and give to a debate. Maybe Tull fans can hear things that others are not able to hear? I sincerely believe that if, or at least are willing to hear new things with an open mind. One thing we have seen is that Tull fans are normally unconditional, on Facebook and internet in general, are the most active forums, also their associations and fan clubs are usually the most active in terms of conventions and events, is why I always say that Tull fans are made of sterner stuff,or as they say in Spain. "los fans de Tull comen aparte" " Tull fans eat apart" ;D Remey Your are like a big hole in the ground full of wonderful Tull presents! Thanks for telling me how to download the low res copy of your 93 Los Angeles video, my girlfriend wants to thank you too, I made her a copy too. It's too bad a real DVD can't be obtained but I know your in Spain. Your Thick As A Brick Ticket is fantastic, were you in London for tha show? I'm enjoying all the stuff that comes from you the Spanish Robin Hood of Tull!!! thank you a million. mark PS thanks to all for the nice welcome and the helpful comments
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