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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 1, 2008 9:58:13 GMT
Yes folks it's true. Tull were on TV overhere in Blighty on the More4 Sky channel at . . . . . . just after midnight. It was from the Tony Palmer documentary series "All You Need Is Love" (1975/6) and had the lads performing Minstrel (Jeffrey in striped coat), a short i/v with IA and all in all just under 5 minutes of the band. Other artists on the 55 minute show included Kiss, Bowie, Keith Moon, ELP, Alice Cooper, Elton John, Eric Clapton, Bob Marley and err.....Gary Glitter. Now my question is this. I only realised it was on due to a bought of insomnia which meant I had to raid the fridge and watch some TV before continuing with my slumbers. So how much Tull and Tull related stuff is broadcast by Sky and the other channels which we might not know about as it is broadcast at such stupid times of the schedule ?
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Post by electrocutas on Nov 2, 2008 9:32:13 GMT
Tull are on Sky Tv every night from 1.45 to 4 am a different live show from 1972 or 3 every night- Did you not know this !!!! OR perhaps it was me.. dreaming away .......
They did once use Bouree on the German tv prog Space Night But however I digress.. Everyone outside and turn you're dishes Eastish a bit lift them up a couple of hundred feet or maybe it would be easier to phone someone in Switzerland 'Cos On 15-11-2008 will be broadcasted: 15/11/08 Festsaal der Messe Basel, Switzerland Part of the 'AVO Session' festival. Broadcast live on SF2 TV (21:45 - 23:25). Support: Hank Shizzoe& The Directors. 20:00 start; Tull ~21.15-22.45.
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Post by electrocutas on Nov 2, 2008 9:33:52 GMT
P.S. what with this 'Karma: 1' Hey I am only trying to be a better person.... My name is twat
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Post by electrocutas on Nov 2, 2008 9:39:56 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 2, 2008 9:39:42 GMT
P.S. what with this 'Karma: 1' Hey I am only trying to be a better person.... My name is twat Don't know about the karma thing and I didn't know your name was twat I thought it was **** ****** but then I may have been mistaken. Also don't know anyone who lives in Switzerland although I did go for a holiday there once. Very hilly if memory serves me right as opposed to Holland which is flat but curls up at the edges like a Virgin rail sandwich. I'll go out for a walk then.
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Post by admin on Dec 31, 2008 14:16:00 GMT
Friday night at 9.00pm on BBC four there is a new documentary being screened called Prog Rock Britannica. Tull are listed in the artist pages on the BBC 4 website page for the show. I guess this means there will be some Tull content but if not it looks like it will be well worth a watch anyway. www.bbc.co.uk/musictv/progbritannia/EDIT... preceeded at 8.00 pm by Prog at the BBC, an hour of Yes, Genesis, ELP, Caravan, Barclay James Harvest, Gentle Giant, Family, Atomic Rooster and more. Cool.
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Post by rockisland on Dec 31, 2008 15:44:07 GMT
Oh wow. Thanks Col. I have been waiting for them to announce the date/time of the program for ages. I thought i had missed it though because a couple of months ago it said on the BBC 4 website that it was in the Autumn schedule and it is now winter!
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Post by quizzkid on Dec 31, 2008 16:56:33 GMT
Friday night at 9.00pm on BBC four there is a new documentary being screened called Prog Rock Britannica. Tull are listed in the artist pages on the BBC 4 website page for the show. I guess this means there will be some Tull content but if not it looks like it will be well worth a watch anyway. www.bbc.co.uk/musictv/progbritannia/EDIT... preceeded at 8.00 pm by Prog at the BBC, an hour of Yes, Genesis, ELP, Caravan, Barclay James Harvest, Gentle Giant, Family, Atomic Rooster and more. Cool. Col, thanks for letting us know. I'll be tuned in to Beeb 4 in case any of the artist mentioned are playing on the In Concert/Sight and Sound shows. I used to attend these regularly and would welcome a glimpse of a younger long haired me sitting at the front. Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone, hope it's a good one for you and your loved ones.
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Post by jioffe on Jan 1, 2009 14:29:27 GMT
Friday night at 9.00pm on BBC four there is a new documentary being screened called Prog Rock Britannica. Tull are listed in the artist pages on the BBC 4 website page for the show. I guess this means there will be some Tull content but if not it looks like it will be well worth a watch anyway. www.bbc.co.uk/musictv/progbritannia/EDIT... preceeded at 8.00 pm by Prog at the BBC, an hour of Yes, Genesis, ELP, Caravan, Barclay James Harvest, Gentle Giant, Family, Atomic Rooster and more. Cool. Many thanks for the nod on these, Col. For those interested and who may not have already consulted the listings, the Prog at the BBC starts at 21.00 (not 20.00), with the documentary from 22.00 to 23.30. Both are repeated in the early hours of Saturday and again, at similar times, on Tuesday 6th. There is also a Time Shift documentary on Prog Rock at 21.00 on Saturday 3rd (repeated 00.35 Sunday) and a smattering of other prog TV offerings over the 5 days, including ELP on Whistle Test on Saturday @ 21.40, a whole evening of programmes about Genesis on Sunday (21.00 to 00.30), the Pink Floyd story @ 22.00 on Monday and a live studio performance of Tubular Bells from 1974 @ 20.30 on Tuesday (all on BBC4). And may I take this opportunity to wish all here a happy, healthy, peaceful and prosperous '09! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by admin on Jan 1, 2009 14:51:44 GMT
Hey thanks Jeff, I didn't delve deep enough into this to find all the other shows so thanks for the info. So it's men in capes and huge banks of keyboards all week then, excellent! (and hopefully a bit of flute twirling in there too!)
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Post by rockisland on Jan 1, 2009 15:21:37 GMT
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Post by admin on Jan 1, 2009 20:51:39 GMT
Thanks for that RI, I don't think too many of us are going to be online tomorrow! The BBC seem to have made a bit of an effort with this so wouldn't it be great if they've unearthed some unseen footage from the vaults? Next on: 02 Jan 2009, 22:00 on BBC Four
Synopsis:Documentary about progressive music and the generation of bands that were invloved, from the international success stories of Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson and Jethro Tull to the trials and tribulations of lesser-known bands such as Caravan and Egg.
The film is structured in three parts, charting the birth, rise and decline of a movement famed for complex musical structures, weird time signatures, technical virtuosity and strange, and quintessentially English, literary influences.
It looks at the psychedelic pop scene that gave birth to progressive rock in the late 1960s, the golden age of progressive music in the early 1970s, complete with drum solos and gatefold record sleeves, and the over-ambition, commercialisation and eventual fall from grace of this rarefied musical experiment at the hands of punk in 1977.
Contributors include Robert Wyatt, Mike Oldfield, Pete Sinfield, Rick Wakeman, Phil Collins, Arthur Brown, Carl Palmer and Ian Anderson.
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Post by rockisland on Jan 3, 2009 11:47:36 GMT
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Post by quizzkid on Jan 3, 2009 13:48:35 GMT
I think it's being repeated on BBC 4 as well [see Jioffe's post earlier] I watched both programmes and while very happy to see "prog rock" and bands of that genre gettting some exposure on TV, I found the latter programme, Prog Rock Britannia- an observation in three movements, a little disappointing. No mention of the bands that kick started the prog rock era such as Principal Edwards, no mention of SF Sorrow, the programme making it sound as if the Beatles and Procul Harem were the prime movers and shakers in devleoping "Prog Rock". I thought the programme turned into being the YES and Genesis story. Ian popped up a few times but not with anything new to divulge that we haven't heard before. The clips centred on the tried, tested and well worn Witches Promise [TOTP] and Brick from Madison Sq. Lots of Tull played in the background and quite a few still photo's, but a missed opportunity. They did conclude though that despite Ian claiming TaaB was a send-up of "prog rock" it was in fact the ultimate "prog rock" album. The first programme, Prog Rock at the BBC also contained Witches Promise from TOTP as Tull's only offering, it was good to see some old clips of bands that have gathered dust for far too long though.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 3, 2009 14:22:21 GMT
Well, I suppose it was better than nothing. I watched it this morning when I got home from work and was disapointed at the lack of Tull/IA involvement. More could have been made of the Isle of Wight festival footage, including the other acts, and the Lively Arts documentary footage could have been "raided" to flesh out Tull's input into the genre.
The footage from the other artists ranged, IMO, from mildly interesting to interesting and the segment on the Canterbury scene was . . . . . . interesting. Sorry, muttering on like Bob Harris.
Star of the programme was dear old Arthur Brown, if only for the fact that at the Saville Theatre we saw him set light to his head when the device he wore which contained the inflamable liquid spilled over. Now that's prog ;D
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Post by quizzkid on Jan 3, 2009 15:33:13 GMT
I have to agree more could have been made of it, especially when you se at the end in the list of contributors the name Glenn Cornick, I'm sure he must have supplied some worthwhile stuff.
The Canterbury scene stuff was good, pity they didn't go more into the Quiet Sun - Matching Mole family tree, Mrs Q lived in the same house as the Dulwich College Quiet Sun crowd at the time of Manzanera and MacCormack and then went onto Kent Uni at Canterbury and has some fond memories [and great stories] of those times.
No sign of the Bob Harris/Ian inteview, nothing from Sight and sound...no mention made that Tull are still around even.....so we're still waiting for the definitive record of that time.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 3, 2009 16:09:26 GMT
Unfortunately, it can only be viewed by those living in the UK. Stingy ol' BBC!
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Post by jioffe on Jan 4, 2009 17:45:24 GMT
The Canterbury scene stuff was good, pity they didn't go more into the Quiet Sun - Matching Mole family tree, Mrs Q lived in the same house as the Dulwich College Quiet Sun crowd at the time of Manzanera and MacCormack and then went onto Kent Uni at Canterbury and has some fond memories [and great stories] of those times. Quizz! Just wondrin' if this small world hasn't become a tad or two smaller! When was Liz at Kent Uni? My mate Geoff did a Law degree there, mid 70s, and then, and for a few years after, was closely involved with The Canterbury Scene as a sax player. I visited him a couple of times at the flat he shared in Broad Oak with Vince Clarke (The Canterbury Knights/Polite Force/Caravan Of Dreams, etc.) and other Scene members whose names, along with my memory, escape me. Would love to hear Liz's stories! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by admin on Jan 5, 2009 21:28:19 GMT
I have to agree more could have been made of it, especially when you se at the end in the list of contributors the name Glenn Cornick, I'm sure he must have supplied some worthwhile stuff. The Canterbury scene stuff was good, pity they didn't go more into the Quiet Sun - Matching Mole family tree, Mrs Q lived in the same house as the Dulwich College Quiet Sun crowd at the time of Manzanera and MacCormack and then went onto Kent Uni at Canterbury and has some fond memories [and great stories] of those times. No sign of the Bob Harris/Ian inteview, nothing from Sight and sound...no mention made that Tull are still around even.....so we're still waiting for the definitive record of that time. I had to wait three days to find the time to watch it so I've been avoiding this thread but I wish I hadn't. IMO it was pretty dull and definitely a missed opportunity. Bar the odd exception the talking heads were pretty dull (even IA was not that interesting) The Tull bit was a bit blink and you'll miss it but my main gripe was all the music clips were way too short. How can you sum up Yes, Genesis, King Crimson etc in 20 second clips? And where were Pink Floyd? Or are they not prog? And if not what is and isn't prog?.....I'm none the wiser! And you'd think prog rock died out in 1977....tell that to Marillion, Pallas, IQ, Pendragon, Tool, Porcupine Tree, The Mars Volta etc etc. Ok so it never reached the heights of the 70's again but it's doing alot better than the Sex Pistols! Blimey, that got me on my soap box!!
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Post by mmike on Jan 6, 2009 1:12:07 GMT
And you'd think prog rock died out in 1977....tell that to Marillion, Pallas, IQ, Pendragon, Tool, Porcupine Tree, The Mars Volta etc etc. Ok so it never reached the heights of the 70's again but it's doing alot better than the Sex Pistols! Blimey, that got me on my soap box!! It's a huge Stretch to lump TOOL into the others listed Not even related chord or vocal wise to what they themselves consider Progressive Rock. (??) Mike
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 6, 2009 2:14:02 GMT
I never thought of Tool as prog.....oddly enough, I'm convinced PIL is.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 6, 2009 9:14:58 GMT
I have to agree more could have been made of it, especially when you se at the end in the list of contributors the name Glenn Cornick, I'm sure he must have supplied some worthwhile stuff. The Canterbury scene stuff was good, pity they didn't go more into the Quiet Sun - Matching Mole family tree, Mrs Q lived in the same house as the Dulwich College Quiet Sun crowd at the time of Manzanera and MacCormack and then went onto Kent Uni at Canterbury and has some fond memories [and great stories] of those times. No sign of the Bob Harris/Ian inteview, nothing from Sight and sound...no mention made that Tull are still around even.....so we're still waiting for the definitive record of that time. I had to wait three days to find the time to watch it so I've been avoiding this thread but I wish I hadn't. IMO it was pretty dull and definitely a missed opportunity. Bar the odd exception the talking heads were pretty dull (even IA was not that interesting) The Tull bit was a bit blink and you'll miss it but my main gripe was all the music clips were way too short. How can you sum up Yes, Genesis, King Crimson etc in 20 second clips? And where were Pink Floyd? Or are they not prog? And if not what is and isn't prog?.....I'm none the wiser! And you'd think prog rock died out in 1977....tell that to Marillion, Pallas, IQ, Pendragon, Tool, Porcupine Tree, The Mars Volta etc etc. Ok so it never reached the heights of the 70's again but it's doing alot better than the Sex Pistols! Blimey, that got me on my soap box!! Got out of my sick bed to view the programme again and have got to agree with you Col. Maybe it's all down to copyright with the BBC not wanting to fork out piles of wonga for the right to broadcast something worthwile.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 6, 2009 18:14:00 GMT
Get Well Soon Maddog...hope it's only temporary
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 6, 2009 22:51:20 GMT
Just watched Prog Rock Brittania or whatever it was called... ditto dull. Nothing stood out for me either in the show except maybe catching the feeling which has never left me since 1976 ie the utter sh*** and b****** that was (early) punk rock!! (imo ) Oh and I quite liked the point that was made about Queen being a sort of recycled prog band with 'simpler' melodies. Other than that ...."tell me something I don't know"
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 7, 2009 8:35:36 GMT
Get Well Soon Maddog...hope it's only temporary bad flu. i had a flu jab in november
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Post by rockisland on Jan 7, 2009 12:45:11 GMT
Hope you get better soon, Maddog.
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Post by quizzkid on Jan 7, 2009 13:04:38 GMT
Quizz! Just wondrin' if this small world hasn't become a tad or two smaller! When was Liz at Kent Uni? My mate Geoff did a Law degree there, mid 70s, and then, and for a few years after, was closely involved with The Canterbury Scene as a sax player. I visited him a couple of times at the flat he shared in Broad Oak with Vince Clarke (The Canterbury Knights/Polite Force/Caravan Of Dreams, etc.) and other Scene members whose names, along with my memory, escape me. Would love to hear Liz's stories! Cheers, Jioffe. Hi Jeff, Happy New Year to you and yours my old mate. How's tricks? She was there for a time doing a sort of "summer school" [or whatever they called it in the 70's....p*** up is a terms that springs to mind] during '71 I think. Then she spent sometime over in Friebourg [or is that Freiburg] Uni for a year as a student and Au Pair and then started back at Kent full time in '72/'73, spending another year, mid-course, at Friebourg Uni again. She was at Keynes at Kent. However, before that [pre-uni] she used to hang about with a group of people in a band from Dulwich College called Quiet Sun, that included Phil Target-Adams, who changed his surname to Manzanera and became Roxy's rather good guitarist. Another guy that she knew from Quiet Sun, Bill MacCormack, joined Matching Mole. She knew a few of the Canterbury people, having lived down there for most of her course time..... Students being what students were in those days meant that very little studying was done unless it invlolved partying, drinking, poker, horse racing and generally having a good time through experimentation . As for her stories I fear that Col would ban me from the board and without doubt I would be sent to the doghouse here forever! She can't recall any "tired young sax players with their instruments of torture" though, but that's no guarentee that they weren't there at the same time....as a lot seems to be hazy in terms of her recollection of some things of that time when questioned! PS is that Vince Clarke of Alf and Yazoo fame?
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Post by jioffe on Jan 7, 2009 21:44:06 GMT
Quizz! Just wondrin' if this small world hasn't become a tad or two smaller! When was Liz at Kent Uni? My mate Geoff did a Law degree there, mid 70s, and then, and for a few years after, was closely involved with The Canterbury Scene as a sax player. I visited him a couple of times at the flat he shared in Broad Oak with Vince Clarke (The Canterbury Knights/Polite Force/Caravan Of Dreams, etc.) and other Scene members whose names, along with my memory, escape me. Would love to hear Liz's stories! Cheers, Jioffe. Hi Jeff, Happy New Year to you and yours my old mate. How's tricks? She was there for a time doing a sort of "summer school" [or whatever they called it in the 70's....p*** up is a terms that springs to mind] during '71 I think. Then she spent sometime over in Friebourg [or is that Freiburg] Uni for a year as a student and Au Pair and then started back at Kent full time in '72/'73, spending another year, mid-course, at Friebourg Uni again. She was at Keynes at Kent. However, before that [pre-uni] she used to hang about with a group of people in a band from Dulwich College called Quiet Sun, that included Phil Target-Adams, who changed his surname to Manzanera and became Roxy's rather good guitarist. Another guy that she knew from Quiet Sun, Bill MacCormack, joined Matching Mole. She knew a few of the Canterbury people, having lived down there for most of her course time..... Students being what students were in those days meant that very little studying was done unless it invlolved partying, drinking, poker, horse racing and generally having a good time through experimentation . As for her stories I fear that Col would ban me from the board and without doubt I would be sent to the doghouse here forever! She can't recall any "tired young sax players with their instruments of torture" though, but that's no guarentee that they weren't there at the same time....as a lot seems to be hazy in terms of her recollection of some things of that time when questioned! PS is that Vince Clarke of Alf and Yazoo fame? Hello, mate, and a HNY back atcha. Things are pretty tolerable at present. Hope you're both gyp free and your abode is fast approaching Eden. I'd say there was some overlap with Geoff and Liz's dates but, I guess, it was always going to be more of a long-shot than it appeared initially. Memory+Time+Catalyst(s) also play a part. I emailed Geoff and he said he could manage a few names but for dates and events, forget it! Anyway, thanks for the indulgence. If you fancy conveying any of Liz's stories via an alternative means, I'd be a willing recipient. Oh, and sadly no, this Vince Clarke was a drummer. And you missed Erasure! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by admin on Jan 8, 2009 10:32:04 GMT
As for her stories I fear that Col would ban me from the board and without doubt I would be sent to the doghouse here forever! No way Hose, considering your efforts for this forum above and beyond the call of duty, and of course for the mince pie & wine, you have a license to run riot!
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Post by quizzkid on Jan 8, 2009 15:14:46 GMT
As for her stories I fear that Col would ban me from the board and without doubt I would be sent to the doghouse here forever! No way Hose, considering your efforts for this forum above and beyond the call of duty, and of course for the mince pie & wine, you have a license to run riot! Maybe better suited over a pie and pint sometime, out of earshot!
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