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Post by itullian on Jun 10, 2021 19:28:21 GMT
This guy has seen the light.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 5, 2021 6:02:39 GMT
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Post by adospencer on Oct 6, 2021 13:57:04 GMT
This guy has seen the light. Listening to this brought back memories for me too of rushing home with this album on day of release, desperate to like it and being similarly disappointed. Its still not among my favourites, it sounds much like the contrived project that it was, and Ians affected accent is at times too much. I tolerate it more now, but I think that's because Ian was still in good voice unlike the output of the last ten years. In the bottom 3 for me (along with "This Was" and "Benefit").
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 7, 2021 5:50:32 GMT
This guy has seen the light. Listening to this brought back memories for me too of rushing home with this album on day of release, desperate to like it and being similarly disappointed. Its still not among my favourites, it sounds much like the contrived project that it was, and Ians affected accent is at times too much. I tolerate it more now, but I think that's because Ian was still in good voice unlike the output of the last ten years. In the bottom 3 for me (along with "This Was" and "Benefit"). Got to agree with you regarding TOTRnR and it is my least favourite Tull album. The initial vinyl pressings were bad (warped vinyl) and early cd pressings were not top quality and suffered from surface noise. It didn't help in my case that the songs were to me below the standard of any previous album.
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Post by woodsongs on Feb 21, 2022 19:06:15 GMT
I have always loved this album. Reminds me of the long hot summer of '76 in the UK (God it was HOT!), and the 'Supersonic' TV special directed by Mike Mansfield. I always loved the album artwork too.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Feb 21, 2022 21:39:40 GMT
It was hot in Philadelphia that summer, too. Scorching! Hot as the Devil.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 22, 2022 0:09:01 GMT
This guy has seen the light. Listening to this brought back memories for me too of rushing home with this album on day of release, desperate to like it and being similarly disappointed. Its still not among my favourites, it sounds much like the contrived project that it was, and Ians affected accent is at times too much. I tolerate it more now, but I think that's because Ian was still in good voice unlike the output of the last ten years. In the bottom 3 for me (along with "This Was" and "Benefit"). Not a favourite of mine either, but I love Benefit
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Feb 22, 2022 13:38:49 GMT
That the Benefit album is so counter-countercultural to the normal late 60's recorded music is one reason why I loved it so much. Plus, for an album that sold so very well, the only time I ever run into another person who loves it or even knows about it, is when I run into someone who is 65+ years of age. As a matter of fact, I ran into an old-timer on the street just yesterday afternoon, who caught my eye because he was wearing a Nighthawks concert t-shirt (The Nighthawks are a blues band from D.C. since the very early 70's), who told me he saw Tull in Texas in the summer of 1971, and he loved the first few albums. Ask someone on the street who is under 50 if they've ever heard of Stand Up or Benefit. You'll be hard-pressed to get a yes to the point that you'll be praying till next Thursday.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 22, 2022 19:01:40 GMT
I have many albums from that period of early seventies, 70/71, Audience - House on the Hill Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman / Teaser and the Firecat Curved Air - Second Album Family - Burlesque Free - Highway James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim Joni Mitchell - Blue Neil Young - Harvest Santana - Abraxas The Doors - L A Woman The Groundhogs - Thank Christ for the Bomb / Split The Who - Who's Next The first years of that decade was a great time for music, but just as Tull's "Benefit" will not be known unless you're maybe over 60 the same applies to all these great albums too.......sadly.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Feb 22, 2022 20:12:05 GMT
I have many albums from that period of early seventies, 70/71, Audience - House on the Hill Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman / Teaser and the Firecat Curved Air - Second Album Family - Burlesque Free - Highway James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim Joni Mitchell - Blue Neil Young - Harvest Santana - Abraxas The Doors - L A Woman The Groundhogs - Thank Christ for the Bomb / Split The Who - Who's Next The first years of that decade was a great time for music, but just as Tull's "Benefit" will not be known unless you're maybe over 60 the same applies to all these great albums too.......sadly. Sabbath, dude, John Barleycorn Must Die, the fourth Zep album, dude, Muswell Hillbillies, man "I'm a 20th Century man and I don't wanna be here!", A Space in Time (Can't forget Ten Years After, c'mon) "World pollution, there's no solution, institution, electrocution..." This was all before music went right down the commode.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 22, 2022 21:54:26 GMT
I deliberately left out the obvious ones.....Sabbath's Paranoid, Masters of Reality, Led Zep II, III, IV etc, too many to mention
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 23, 2022 6:54:04 GMT
I have many albums from that period of early seventies, 70/71, Audience - House on the Hill Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman / Teaser and the Firecat Curved Air - Second Album Family - Burlesque Free - Highway James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim Joni Mitchell - Blue Neil Young - Harvest Santana - Abraxas The Doors - L A Woman The Groundhogs - Thank Christ for the Bomb / Split The Who - Who's Next The first years of that decade was a great time for music, but just as Tull's "Benefit" will not be known unless you're maybe over 60 the same applies to all these great albums too.......sadly. Some really excellent titles especially Blue and Harvest. I must investigate House on the Hill asap.
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Post by argentull on Feb 23, 2022 10:21:04 GMT
I have many albums from that period of early seventies, 70/71, Audience - House on the Hill Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman / Teaser and the Firecat Curved Air - Second Album Family - Burlesque Free - Highway James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim Joni Mitchell - Blue Neil Young - Harvest Santana - Abraxas The Doors - L A Woman The Groundhogs - Thank Christ for the Bomb / Split The Who - Who's Next The first years of that decade was a great time for music, but just as Tull's "Benefit" will not be known unless you're maybe over 60 the same applies to all these great albums too.......sadly. Some really excellent titles especially Blue and Harvest. I must investigate House on the Hill asap. LA Woman is one of my all tume favorite albums
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 23, 2022 10:56:21 GMT
I have many albums from that period of early seventies, 70/71, Audience - House on the Hill Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman / Teaser and the Firecat Curved Air - Second Album Family - Burlesque Free - Highway James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim Joni Mitchell - Blue Neil Young - Harvest Santana - Abraxas The Doors - L A Woman The Groundhogs - Thank Christ for the Bomb / Split The Who - Who's Next The first years of that decade was a great time for music, but just as Tull's "Benefit" will not be known unless you're maybe over 60 the same applies to all these great albums too.......sadly. Some really excellent titles especially Blue and Harvest. I must investigate House on the Hill asap. House on the Hill is a fabulous album MD, I'm sure you would love it
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Feb 23, 2022 12:13:08 GMT
I deliberately left out the obvious ones.....Sabbath's Paranoid, Masters of Reality, Led Zep II, III, IV etc, too many to mention I know. Once could go on for a couple hours regarding those years.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 23, 2022 19:59:05 GMT
Some really excellent titles especially Blue and Harvest. I must investigate House on the Hill asap. House on the Hill is a fabulous album MD, I'm sure you would love it The title track on youtube...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i043gWMKAVg
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 24, 2022 6:44:28 GMT
House on the Hill is a fabulous album MD, I'm sure you would love it The title track on youtube...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i043gWMKAVg Thanks
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Post by woodsongs on Mar 28, 2022 16:05:27 GMT
It's been years since I saw this advert in the UK music press. I could never understand why it wasn't a big hit single at the time. I love Maddy Prior's backing vocals on this track.
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Post by adospencer on Mar 29, 2022 6:06:05 GMT
It's been years since I saw this advert in the UK music press. I could never understand why it wasn't a big hit single at the time. I love Maddy Prior's backing vocals on this track. I remember taping a Radio interview with IA before the album came out which included the forthcoming single. At first it was exciting, you know how it is, new Tull ,playing it repeatedly to unlock the story of the song without a lyric sheet. BUT... it quickly faded, I wanted to like it more than I did. The song lacks dynamics and plods slowly along and I soon felt a sense of disappointment (a bit like the album itself really).
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Post by JTull 007 on Mar 29, 2022 10:44:59 GMT
Jethro Tull - Too Old To Rock'n' Roll (Supersonic, 27.3.1976)
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 29, 2022 12:06:51 GMT
I remember taping a Radio interview with IA before the album came out which included the forthcoming single. At first it was exciting, you know how it is, new Tull ,playing it repeatedly to unlock the story of the song without a lyric sheet. BUT... it quickly faded, I wanted to like it more than I did. The song lacks dynamics and plods slowly along and I soon felt a sense of disappointment (a bit like the album itself really). Feel the same way about the album . . . heard the title track too many times in concert.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Mar 29, 2022 14:13:45 GMT
Feel the same way about the album . . . heard the title track too many times in concert. The title track always seemed to lack the punch and the dynamics that the studio version delivered so well. When you are a brilliant, even genius musician, your work can be so perfect that, even you, cannot deliver the same greatness year after year. Think about it, he released an album every single year. The man is human. He had relationships, health, bills, and the highs and lows of life. Plus, he's human. Heck, what famous author didn't have at least one or two duds amongst their greatest novels? I imagine he was well aware that some of his work was considered sub-par by his standards. But, then a friend would give him a book to read and that one book would spark a three album trilogy that would be, arguably the three greatest back to back to back releases in rock history (yes, it rivals Beggar's Banguet, Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers).
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 29, 2022 16:26:19 GMT
Feel the same way about the album . . . heard the title track too many times in concert. The title track always seemed to lack the punch and the dynamics that the studio version delivered so well. When you are a brilliant, even genius musician, your work can be so perfect that, even you, cannot deliver the same greatness year after year. Think about it, he released an album every single year. The man is human. He had relationships, health, bills, and the highs and lows of life. Plus, he's human. Heck, what famous author didn't have at least one or two duds amongst their greatest novels? I imagine he was well aware that some of his work was considered sub-par by his standards. But, then a friend would give him a book to read and that one book would spark a three album trilogy that would be, arguably the three greatest back to back to back releases in rock history (yes, it rivals Beggar's Banguet, Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers). Agree 100%
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Post by adospencer on Mar 29, 2022 17:15:57 GMT
Feel the same way about the album . . . heard the title track too many times in concert. The title track always seemed to lack the punch and the dynamics that the studio version delivered so well. When you are a brilliant, even genius musician, your work can be so perfect that, even you, cannot deliver the same greatness year after year. Think about it, he released an album every single year. The man is human. He had relationships, health, bills, and the highs and lows of life. Plus, he's human. Heck, what famous author didn't have at least one or two duds amongst their greatest novels? I imagine he was well aware that some of his work was considered sub-par by his standards. But, then a friend would give him a book to read and that one book would spark a three album trilogy that would be, arguably the three greatest back to back to back releases in rock history (yes, it rivals Beggar's Banguet, Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers). But we must be allowed to be disappointed from time to time! You don't have to defend our man..The problem is "TOTR&R" doesn't sound like a Tull album really.It was still superior to most music that was out there. I played it over and over ,desperate to like it. (funnily enough I enjoy it more now) and it does have its moments but it never "rocks". It makes more sense as a soundtrack to a stage show as was intended. This was one of those occasions when IA had an end product in mind ,the subject of each song has none of the trademark ambiguity and the songs suffer for it, written as they are around a quite weak improbable story. No Valkyrie maidens or life after death for us to explore this time! The bit I never really got was that accent that IA used. In the story we are told the character Ray Lomas is from Blackpool (or at least the North) and only travels to London for his prize, yet we get some sort of weird cockney accent!
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Mar 29, 2022 21:57:24 GMT
Ian must have known that Vicious and Lydon were on the cusp of something cutting edge and wanted to get in on the fun. It just couldn't be all those old Michael Caine (Alfie, for one) films, where he got the accent.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Mar 29, 2022 21:59:46 GMT
The title track always seemed to lack the punch and the dynamics that the studio version delivered so well. When you are a brilliant, even genius musician, your work can be so perfect that, even you, cannot deliver the same greatness year after year. Think about it, he released an album every single year. The man is human. He had relationships, health, bills, and the highs and lows of life. Plus, he's human. Heck, what famous author didn't have at least one or two duds amongst their greatest novels? I imagine he was well aware that some of his work was considered sub-par by his standards. But, then a friend would give him a book to read and that one book would spark a three album trilogy that would be, arguably the three greatest back to back to back releases in rock history (yes, it rivals Beggar's Banguet, Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers). Agree 100% I have a few different ones by different authors, but was never up for paying the large price for this particular one. Though, I would love to thumb through it or find a scanned version online.
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Post by woodsongs on Mar 31, 2022 8:12:09 GMT
It's been years since I saw this advert in the UK music press. I could never understand why it wasn't a big hit single at the time. I love Maddy Prior's backing vocals on this track. I remember taping a Radio interview with IA before the album came out which included the forthcoming single. At first it was exciting, you know how it is, new Tull ,playing it repeatedly to unlock the story of the song without a lyric sheet. BUT... it quickly faded, I wanted to like it more than I did. The song lacks dynamics and plods slowly along and I soon felt a sense of disappointment (a bit like the album itself really). I know this album has it's critics - but I have always loved it. I think the cover art and the 'Strip Cartoon' are fantastic. Another reason I love it is because it reminds me so much of that hot summer we had in the UK in 1976. This album was my soundtrack to that summer.
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Post by woodsongs on Mar 31, 2022 10:30:40 GMT
I know this album has it's critics - but I have always loved it. I think the cover art and the 'Strip Cartoon' are fantastic. Another reason I love it is because it reminds me so much of that hot summer we had in the UK in 1976. This album was my soundtrack to that summer. Ah yes, the drought of 76! We thought it would never rain again. But I can appreciate what you mean about that summer and particular album. The soundtrack to your life! The thing is about newly released Tull being a special event is that we often remember what else was happening. Perhaps my favourite time was the "Broadsword" era. Spring weather was lovely , domestic life was good, I felt in my prime and it was great to be alive , and a holiday week incorporating three live dates, (or four if we count the Theakston festival later in the year) with good friends are a cherished memory. Even now the fresh smell of Spring takes me back and I want to spin "Broadsword" once more. By contrast, my low point I guess was "Crest" . (Cue violins)... At the time I was living alone and really struggling with literally no spare money at all. Even so,the thought of a new album released without me was unbearable !. I knew a friend was planning to buy the album at the weekend, so on release day I borrowed the money from my sister, walked the 8 miles to the store bought the album (so I could at least read the cover and lyrics), taped it onto an old cassette tape (with sound "drop outs" throughout), sold the album on to my friend that evening , and refunded my sis the next day. I lived in fear for the next month of that tape tangling! Even now when I play the album, I feel slightly hungry Surprisingly I still manage to enjoy "Crest" despite the embarrassing memory! I do like the 'Crest Of A Knave' album a lot, although it does remind me a little too much of 'Dire Straits' (I much prefer the 'Too Old' album). Speaking generally though my 'Golden Era' of Jethro Tull albums started with 'Aqualung' through to 'Broadsword', peaking with 'Songs From The Wood' through to 'Stormwatch'. I do love them all though (including 'Underwraps'!)
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