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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 7, 2015 8:20:12 GMT
An album I generally liked. Generally very good, a few great songs and perhaps a clunker or two I'd send back to the chef. It seems to be something like a IA miniature version of Quadrophenia, a Monophenia, a review of a time of early years, a phase of person and world around them, a cultural snapshot. But what really made it work was the motorcycle. Barriemore Barlow had the motorcycle headlamp on his drum kit on tour. Could it have been a double album? Probably would have if CDs had been the format. What band could have survived the changes that went on so rapidly........consider the changes between A Passion Play, then WarChild, then Too Old To Rock And Roll, then Songs From The Wood. This was also the time of Miles Davis jazz/fusion albums, a series of explorations that knocked Davis right out of music for a while (and a few other reasons). I'll be honest - not my favourite Tull album. I'll be giving this one a miss although I'll probably download the "new" songs just so I can have listen to them. It's always perplexed me that TOTRnR was sandwiched between some cracking albums and I just wish it had become a theatrical production with Adam Faith (or whoever it was supposed to have been) and it had been just left at that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 13:55:05 GMT
An album I generally liked. Generally very good, a few great songs and perhaps a clunker or two I'd send back to the chef. It seems to be something like a IA miniature version of Quadrophenia, a Monophenia, a review of a time of early years, a phase of person and world around them, a cultural snapshot. But what really made it work was the motorcycle. Barriemore Barlow had the motorcycle headlamp on his drum kit on tour. Could it have been a double album? Probably would have if CDs had been the format. What band could have survived the changes that went on so rapidly........consider the changes between A Passion Play, then WarChild, then Too Old To Rock And Roll, then Songs From The Wood. This was also the time of Miles Davis jazz/fusion albums, a series of explorations that knocked Davis right out of music for a while (and a few other reasons). I'll be honest - not my favourite Tull album. I'll be giving this one a miss although I'll probably download the "new" songs just so I can have listen to them. It's always perplexed me that TOTRnR was sandwiched between some cracking albums and I just wish it had become a theatrical production with Adam Faith (or whoever it was supposed to have been) and it had been just left at that. The album in quad is a true rarity for quad collectors. Think of it as investing in Tull quad shares. Now if you think Ray blew it, there was nothing to it. he missed the quad investment.
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Post by fjtull on Oct 7, 2015 15:50:11 GMT
Love all this remixing project. Lot of new stuff coming on . Let' hope HE will continues through the Broadsowrd LP. Also COAN would be great if they release the whole 20 minutes or so original Budapest demo. Also, it is great to have all of these in book format all togheter on my shelves; and I guess we can be sure that will be at least three more (SFTW; HH; SW). The only thing I do not really love is the choice they made about the plastic for CDs places inside the book itself: a different solution would have been great (and there are may choices on the market: David Sylvian special editions; FISH A feat of consequences, etc) But, we know, you can't always get (ALL) you want...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 16:07:29 GMT
Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die! The TV Special Edition note from Ian AndersonWell, here we are with a slight return to the heady years of 1976 and the notion that you’re never too old to rock and roll.
Remixed by Steven Wilson and unleashing upon an unprepared fan base the additional tracks, TV show recordings as well as other goodies, this collection brings back memories for me at any rate.
Unfortunately, some memories have not returned to their rightful owner as I have little recollection of even recording the additional archive tracks. But there they are in glorious analogue multi-track form so it must have really happened. Enjoy and suck in the heady air of the seventies and promise not to laugh at the silly cozies and the hair-sprayed mane.What’s in the box… Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll, Too Young To Die! – The TV Special Edition Deluxe features a previously unreleased re-recorded version of the album for a 1976 UK TV special. It additionally contains original LP tracks and rare associated recordings, plus 2015 5.1 and stereo mixes by Steven Wilson. Also included: * flat transfers of the original album as well as a host of rare associated recordings including previously unreleased material. * the previously commercially unavailable original TV footage with DTS, Dolby Digital Surround Sound and Dolby Digital Stereo sound. * the TV audio in 96/24 stereo PCM, alongside a host of other associated recordings in surround and 96/24. * an extensive 80 page booklet including an essay by Martin Webb on the preparation and recording of the album in Brussels and Monte Carlo, the aborted stage musical, the London Weekend TV special and the 1976 tours. The booklet also contains a track by track annotation by Ian Anderson, lyrics, a feature on Ian Anderson and his motorbikes, Dave Gibbons on drawing the LP’s cartoon inner spread and ‘From Carmen to Tullman’ – The Musical Life of John Glascock, unseen photos and lots more.
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Post by Equus on Oct 8, 2015 7:13:24 GMT
First of all... This is in my opinion one of the really great Jethro Tull albums... I love the album cover, with the "f**k you" attitude... (...and I hate that I can't write the word...) The title of the album is fabulous! Quizz kid... fabulous song... Crazed Institution... fabulous song... Salamander extra fabulous song... Taxi grab is not one of my favorites, but I still like it a lot... From a dead beat to an old greaser... fabulous song... Bad-Eyed and Loveless... fabulous song... Big Dipper... fabulous song... Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die... fabulous... Pied Piper... fabulous song, and a song that just had to be written... The first time I listened to Jethro Tull, and especialy Ian's flute playing, I was hopelessly captured, and helplessly dragged into the world of Jethro Tull... Ian is the Pied Piper... Last but not least... The Chequered Flag (Dead or Alive)... fabulous song...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:22:06 GMT
First of all... This is in my opinion one of the really great Jethro Tull albums... I love the album cover, with the "f**k you" attitude... (...and I hate that I can't write the word...) The title of the album is fabulous! Quizz kid... fabulous song... Crazed Institution... fabulous song... Salamander extra fabulous song... Taxi grab is not one of my favorites, but I still like it a lot... From a dead beat to an old greaser... fabulous song... Bad-Eyed and Loveless... fabulous song... Big Dipper... fabulous song... Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die... fabulous... Pied Piper... fabulous song, and a song that just had to be written... The first time I listened to Jethro Tull, and especialy Ian's flute playing, I was hopelessly captured, and helplessly dragged into the world of Jethro Tull... Ian is the Pied Piper... Last but not least... The Chequered Flag (Dead or Alive)... fabulous song...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:26:07 GMT
Love all this remixing project. Lot of new stuff coming on . Let' hope HE will continues through the Broadsowrd LP. Also COAN would be great if they release the whole 20 minutes or so original Budapest demo. Also, it is great to have all of these in book format all togheter on my shelves; and I guess we can be sure that will be at least three more (SFTW; HH; SW). The only thing I do not really love is the choice they made about the plastic for CDs places inside the book itself: a different solution would have been great (and there are may choices on the market: David Sylvian special editions; FISH A feat of consequences, etc) But, we know, you can't always get (ALL) you want... Agree about the plastic. BEND DVD - snap! One of my favourite Stones' tune.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 9, 2015 8:59:13 GMT
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Post by elberto on Oct 9, 2015 10:56:35 GMT
No vinyl release of this TOO OLD new steven wilson remix edition?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 13:54:43 GMT
No vinyl release of this TOO OLD new steven wilson remix edition? This would be impossible for the original album because of the missing multi-track masters. The way to go with the vinyl is an all flat transfer of the original mix master OR a mixed bag of remixed tracks from the TV special multi-track masters and the 5 multi-track masters from the original album that were found. OR would an all TV special Steven Wilson stereo remix on vinyl be acceptable? As noted on the web - Quizz Kid, Crazed institution, Salamander, Taxi Grab & Pied Piper multi-track tapes are missing for the album proper.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 14:14:25 GMT
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Post by elberto on Oct 10, 2015 14:32:07 GMT
Maybe the flat transfer of the original mix master is a good idea for a new vinyl edition. I hope to see it! As a new vinyl edition of the STAND UP album!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 16:40:02 GMT
Maybe the flat transfer of the original mix master is a good idea for a new vinyl edition. I hope to see it! As a new vinyl edition of the STAND UP album! Right on! Flat transfers for Tull has been my wish for years. Unfortunately Aqualung suffers from damaged tape, but the sound quality for most of these (flat transfers) deluxe versions has pleased me. Keep asking for Stand Up, maybe someone will listen. CHEERS!
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Post by elberto on Oct 17, 2015 19:53:18 GMT
Maybe the flat transfer of the original mix master is a good idea for a new vinyl edition. I hope to see it! As a new vinyl edition of the STAND UP album! Right on! Flat transfers for Tull has been my wish for years. Unfortunately Aqualung suffers from damaged tape, but the sound quality for most of these (flat transfers) deluxe versions has pleased me. Keep asking for Stand Up, maybe someone will listen. CHEERS! In recent years, the vinyl records are coming back strongly in the sales charts. Among the recent vinyl reissues of Tull recordings STAND UP is the only missing. It's a gap to be filled! And they cannot skip a new TOO OLD TO ROCK vinyl edition!
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Post by elberto on Oct 18, 2015 9:18:31 GMT
Maybe the flat transfer of the original mix master is a good idea for a new vinyl edition. I hope to see it! As a new vinyl edition of the STAND UP album! Right on! Flat transfers for Tull has been my wish for years. Unfortunately Aqualung suffers from damaged tape, but the sound quality for most of these (flat transfers) deluxe versions has pleased me. Keep asking for Stand Up, maybe someone will listen. CHEERS! Prophetically my Wish on STAND UP vinyl/deluxe edition come true! Someone heard me... :-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 13:45:50 GMT
Right on! Flat transfers for Tull has been my wish for years. Unfortunately Aqualung suffers from damaged tape, but the sound quality for most of these (flat transfers) deluxe versions has pleased me. Keep asking for Stand Up, maybe someone will listen. CHEERS! Prophetically my Wish on STAND UP vinyl/deluxe edition come true! Someone heard me... :-) So good! Great news.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 3:06:59 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 20, 2015 15:26:43 GMT
Grab this quick before the video police delete it
Published on Nov 17, 2015 Provided to YouTube by Warner Music Group
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Post by hwkn on Nov 20, 2015 19:05:46 GMT
The video police got it.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 20, 2015 19:14:42 GMT
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Post by clasp on Nov 21, 2015 13:03:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 17:03:07 GMT
Google translate: TOO OLD TV Edition - much to discoverA few days ago we flew the TV Special Edition of Jethro Tull Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die into the house. Behind this long title, the lovingly refurbished version of the original album of 1976. I will now devote myself hides the album and go primarily to the Audio CDs. Artwork: The album comes in a book format with a stylized Ian Anderson on the cover. If you open up the album, front are the two audio CDs and behind the comprehensive booklet the two DVDs. The booklet is really awesome. Here can also be found a comic and a lot of background information on the album along with many photos of the band and the lyrics. Sound Quality: The CDs listen to absolutely super. Of course you can hear differences between the original album Flat transfers and the different stages of evolution of the songs. But precisely these small and subtle differences make it exciting in this edition. Music: After the short "Prelude" to do it right with "Quiz Kid" in the depths of the rock complex of Ian Anderson. The song features a complex rhythm and the recurring, skillful flute play the front-man of Jethro Tull. The next two tracks then rippling something under his breath without in any way being boring. But Title 5 "Taxi grave" that will not go then from the head. Strong riffs and a very straight rhythm stomping slowly through the song. As a special treat you can hear here in the background a harmonica - of course played by Ian Anderson. The following "From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser" is then a quiet ballad that somehow reminds me of the melancholy of Pink Floyd's album The Dark Side Of The Moon. Of course, this album is no way around the theme song "Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die" passing. This song is also held in the rock style and sounds to me but at the same time also very thoughtful and comes partially over very melancholic. The title 12-16 are the original LP tracks from 1975 or 1976. Right-fat then sounds again Title 17 "Quiz Kid (Version 1)" Here you can hear the truly wild version the opener of the album. On the second CD there Associated Recordings and the Original Album Track Flat Transfer Album. The first title of the album "Salamander" is characterized by its lightweight and trendy way to what one is kind of weird and atypical accustomed. One should listen to the track several times to decide whether it is a piece of rock history or quite simply strange. "Commercial traveler" then strongly reminiscent of the classic Jethro Tull "Aqualung". There is a wild percussion, strings and oblique choppy vocals of Ian Anderson. For the remaining tracks you should take some time, since it partly concerns bonus songs and different versions of the title already belonged. One should not think now that from the album everything has already been retrieved. Now there is to discover 2 DVDs. On the first DVD there in 43 minutes, the television broadcast to the album. Here the songs are not simply performed live, they are much more fitted in a play. So you will be partially abducted in a strange dream with a beautiful dancer or looks like Ian Anderson makes his aged mirror image. Anyone who thinks the music of Jethro Tull is worn, is convinced of this imagery from the fact that they are also optically completely nuts. There is also on the two DVDs 3 hours of audio material in various formats without imagery. Overall, therefore, again much to discover. Conclusion: You can not reinvent the wheel. But this edition of Jethro Tull's Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die shows the wheel in so many facets, as it gets anyway. It really is an exciting collection of all materials of this album where I partly already too much find it. Every connoisseur of Jethro Tull gets the album in great quality and the gourmets can employ up days so hours. CD edition: Life's no bowl of cherries it's a black and white strip cartoon. - Ian Anderson
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 26, 2015 17:23:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 18:06:29 GMT
Posted by Bert over at the Dutch Fan Club linked
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 26, 2015 19:55:11 GMT
Hurry delivery day Meester Amazon.
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Post by onewhiteduck on Nov 27, 2015 19:13:26 GMT
Just had my first listen and it is fantastic. Steven Wilson has done another amazing job.
Is this the one that has benefited (no puns intended ) the most from SW's magic - maybe - got a lot more listening to do. Its so crisp,fresh and bloody outstanding to be honest.
Further reports to follow
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Post by stevep on Nov 27, 2015 22:25:53 GMT
Got my copy of the updated album today and like the other album updates, I think it is excellent. The album has been given a new lease of life and there are new things to hear with the bonus tracks. I was particularly interested to see the tv show. While the music on it is great, the actual show is quite dated and just plain strange. I actually found some of if quite embarrassing though you have to remember that the band were still in their twenties when it was made. Quite pleased to read in an interview on this page that IA found it embarrassing when it was made so guess it is okay to find it the same all these years later...
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Post by jethrotull on Nov 28, 2015 7:46:50 GMT
"I actually found some of it quite embarrassing though you have to remember that the band were still in their twenties when it was made"
Other earlier recordings made when they were in their twenties: This was, Stand Up, Benefit, Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, A Passion Play, Warchild, Minstrel in the Gallery. In other words, BY FAR Tull's finest music (with the exception of Songs From the Wood, which came later). I remember being very disappointed on buying TOTRR when it was released in 1976, Jeffrey was gone and I hated the title track most of all, it was so "un-magical" compared to everything the band had done up to that time. I felt Salamander was the album's saving grace and Quizz kid was OK, maybe even Big Dipper. But as a whole the album was a canard. It's successor, Songs From the Wood was a rebirth, one of the group's masterpieces, but sadly a last hoorah, in my view, like the embers of a dying fire flaming up brilliantly before going out altogether.
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