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Post by theothertull on Jun 1, 2015 18:58:48 GMT
If you don't get Jeffrey's influence on Ian, the stage show, and energy he brought to Martin, I am wondering if you saw them between 71 - 75, and then after. Just look at Martin's stage presence in recent MITG re-release and the TullOvison portion a year later with John. I notice you chose not to comment on my central question about the "Tull" sound(s); instead deflecting to Jeffrey. I am not telling you that Martin is no good, or that you should not be loyal to him if you choose. But he is not crucial to Tull, he needs Ian more than the other wau around, and his bitter musings, self serving and self indulgent comments since he got fired show it. BTW - lol, really??? Usually a sign of little to say. Well when i 'look to the music' i see 10 times more energy in everything Glen did as opposed to Jeffrey. JHH admitted himself he is no musician,Ian got frustrated at times as JHH couldnt keep up with the others to learn the music . yep he gave the band a more 'zany' kind of image. Like Glen said JHH was obviously not employed for musical reasons. Who knows what the 71-75 stuff would have sounded like with Glen (remember hes the only bassplayer to date who's basslines are memorable). Standup is still the benchmark for a lot of Tull fans. Martin obviuosly developed more confidence which would be a natural progression playing with a band over a period of time. I heard Martin suffered from stagefright early on. Ian songwriting obviuosly improved from 71-75, again a natural progression that usually happens with most bands Zeppelin,Purple,Free all the same. You may think Martin is not crucial to the 'Tull' sound but there'll be many that say your very wrong. To be recognised by the greats (Vai,Moore,Knopfler,Blackmore,Bonamassa,Trower) says far more about Martins ability than your continued attempts to assasinate all he did for the band. You say I am assassinating, I think you are overly defending him, the fact is that he seems to rewrite the facts every time he speaks, so if anyone is killing Martin, it's his mouth, he should just shut up and play. Still no answer to the question posed, what evidence is there in Martin's solo work that suggests he contributed to the classic Tull sound in a way that no other guitar guy would have? You can attack me all you like, let's deal with the question posed.
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Post by hardliner on Jun 1, 2015 19:03:30 GMT
If you don't get Jeffrey's influence on Ian, the stage show, and energy he brought to Martin, I am wondering if you saw them between 71 - 75, and then after. Just look at Martin's stage presence in recent MITG re-release and the TullOvison portion a year later with John. I notice you chose not to comment on my central question about the "Tull" sound(s); instead deflecting to Jeffrey. I am not telling you that Martin is no good, or that you should not be loyal to him if you choose. But he is not crucial to Tull, he needs Ian more than the other wau around, and his bitter musings, self serving and self indulgent comments since he got fired show it. BTW - lol, really??? Usually a sign of little to say. I agree with theothertull, and of course I'm here for Ian Anderson Sorry hardliner, but I'm not at all agree with you, even with the great support of tootull whose contributions to this forum are always very important to me. Yesterday before the match of FC. Barcelona, I told my friends that Martin plays about 30 guitar solos in each concert...the result was a rain of stuffed olives over my. Outside jokes Martin is a great guitarist but I think Ian take from Martin the best of himself, maybe it's the best guitarist for Tull, but alone is only a shadow of what once was. That I don't agree with the radical defenders of Martin does not mean that I do not admire Martin. This guitar solo, I think is not prepared again and again..., I think it is improvised and has been repeated few or none times in the Tull history, and surely is one of the longest guitar solos I have seen Yes thats the longest solo and thank god he doesnt do that musical excess these days lol!! You are counting a solo as a individual showcase type piece,where i count a solo as any solo in a song context . i.e. theres 2 solos alone in To cry you a song ,he is playing far more solos than he did in Tull (theres no 1 else in his band to do them )
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Post by hardliner on Jun 1, 2015 19:53:27 GMT
Well when i 'look to the music' i see 10 times more energy in everything Glen did as opposed to Jeffrey. JHH admitted himself he is no musician,Ian got frustrated at times as JHH couldnt keep up with the others to learn the music . yep he gave the band a more 'zany' kind of image. Like Glen said JHH was obviously not employed for musical reasons. Who knows what the 71-75 stuff would have sounded like with Glen (remember hes the only bassplayer to date who's basslines are memorable). Standup is still the benchmark for a lot of Tull fans. Martin obviuosly developed more confidence which would be a natural progression playing with a band over a period of time. I heard Martin suffered from stagefright early on. Ian songwriting obviuosly improved from 71-75, again a natural progression that usually happens with most bands Zeppelin,Purple,Free all the same. You may think Martin is not crucial to the 'Tull' sound but there'll be many that say your very wrong. To be recognised by the greats (Vai,Moore,Knopfler,Blackmore,Bonamassa,Trower) says far more about Martins ability than your continued attempts to assasinate all he did for the band. You say I am assassinating, I think you are overly defending him, the fact is that he seems to rewrite the facts every time he speaks, so if anyone is killing Martin, it's his mouth, he should just shut up and play. Still no answer to the question posed, what evidence is there in Martin's solo work that suggests he contributed to the classic Tull sound in a way that no other guitar guy would have? You can attack me all you like, let's deal with the question posed. You can attack Martin all you like (every post you've put on here has a go at him -does he owe you money or something ?) Watch this youtube at 18.30 onwards and Martin deals with your question in depth and dignity ,no rewriting history at all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLRLACbjP6g Even Ian stated there could be no Tull without Martin (that itself sums it up ),i dont understand why you continuosly attack him.
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Post by Tull50 on Jun 1, 2015 20:12:40 GMT
Surely I know what are a solo before you were born. I just do not like the way you say things or exaggerations, I do the same Each 100 publications yours 80 are about Martin, you have many more threads to choose, you can return to Martin when there is news, this topic is too spent... Cheers!
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Post by hardliner on Jun 1, 2015 20:35:17 GMT
Surely I know what are a solo before you were born. I just do not like the way you say things or exaggerations, I do the same Each 100 publications yours 80 are about Martin, you have many more threads to choose, you can return to Martin when there is news, this topic is too spent... Cheers!
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Post by Tull50 on Jun 1, 2015 20:45:37 GMT
I forgot to say a toast for your dedication to Martin
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Post by theothertull on Jun 1, 2015 21:56:41 GMT
You say I am assassinating, I think you are overly defending him, the fact is that he seems to rewrite the facts every time he speaks, so if anyone is killing Martin, it's his mouth, he should just shut up and play. Still no answer to the question posed, what evidence is there in Martin's solo work that suggests he contributed to the classic Tull sound in a way that no other guitar guy would have? You can attack me all you like, let's deal with the question posed. You can attack Martin all you like (every post you've put on here has a go at him -does he owe you money or something ?) Watch this youtube at 18.30 onwards and Martin deals with your question in depth and dignity ,no rewriting history at all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLRLACbjP6g Even Ian stated there could be no Tull without Martin (that itself sums it up ),i dont understand why you continuosly attack him. Dude, answer the question: When you listen to Martin's stuff, while with Tull or after, does it have any of the characteristics of Tull at their height in the 1970's or since? Ya I am critical, because his is an disingenuous little brat. For years he rode the tide, played all those shows he claims to have not liked. All the years Ian went out on his own, did Martin, no, he sat back waited for the next tour to be booked, showed up and played. Where was all the righteous indignation then? Oh, the poor baby, what a terrible life he must have led, every second in fear of being replace by a flute solo. Please! Why didn't he leave, was he caged? Why didn't he tour, I saw the pathetic stuff with Porter in 2004. The guy is a good guitarist, but slack as sh#@, didn;t act on the convictions he pretends to have now. None of this was evident till he got fired, and the gravy train came to an end. Ian made him what he is, and I understand that he is pissed now, but he could've acted on his own, but didn't. You wanna defend him your choice, but let's not pretend that Ian would have had a different career without him, can you say the same for him, back up all the way. Over and out.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 4, 2015 19:50:41 GMT
Holy 4th of July in Hungary!!!! Martin Barre Goes NUCLEAR POWER @ Gastroblues Festival, Eszi Hall, Paks, HUNGARY MB Link
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 7, 2015 12:53:30 GMT
Just heard this from Teacher (Metta)... Martin Barre @tullguitarist · Jul 5 A few tickets still available to join me for 5 days of music aboard “Cruise To The Edge”, sailing to the... fb.me/3dbrNYH0T
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 10, 2015 11:15:07 GMT
Holy Jazz Festival ! Tonight we rock in San Javier, Spain FRIDAY July 10 JETHRO TULL'S MARTIN BARRE MB Link Member of the legendary rock group Jethro Tull for 43 years, Birmingham exquisite guitarist Martin Barre has been, along with the voice and the flute of Ian Anderson, the main hallmark of the group. Besides his work in it, since 1990, developed in parallel solo career in which he has recorded 6 albums. Barre is one of the most prestigious guitarists in Europe, its only in 1971 on "Aqualung" was voted by the readers of Guitar Player magazine as the best of the time.
Mark Knopfler described his work as Jethro Tull "magical". He has also played with Paul McCartney, Phil Collins, Gary Moore and Joe Bonamassa, who consider him an extraordinary guitarist. With his band, Martin Barre offer us classic catalog of Jethro Tull and some of the best tracks from his solo career, a must for lovers of rock concert.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 11, 2015 12:17:56 GMT
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 12, 2015 1:59:08 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 12, 2015 11:50:41 GMT
www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Jethro Tull guitarist steps out on his own at Trading BoundariesBy East Grinstead Courier | Posted: July 11, 2015 By Jo Gilbert jo.gilbert@egcourier.co.uk www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Jethro-Tull-guitarist-steps/story-26849440-detail/story.htmlAS a long-standing member of Jethro Tull, guitarist Martin Barre has sold 60 million records worldwide, toured with some of the biggest bands in the world and has been credited with giving the progressive rock band from Luton its "hard rock" sound. He can count Jimi Hendrix, the Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin, Frank Zappa and Vanilla Fudge as some of the bands he has supported on tour – and that's only on one hand. But as with so many bands from that era, if you ask him if he knew he was part of a music revolution at the time – he will say no. He explained: "I didn't think about it at the time, it just snowballed into the most amazing experience and I'm so glad we did it when we did. These days there's too much emphasis on spin and PR. There were fewer bands touring in those days, so we all ended up crossing paths and playing at the same festivals. I remember one gig, Jethro Tull were the headliners, Fleetwood Mac were second on the bill and Joe Cocker was third. I look back now and think 'there's a line-up I would like to see!'" After 43 years on the road – and officially parting ways with Jethro Tull in 2011 – Martin still has the touring bug, having just got back from America and Budapest with his band. The Grammy-award winning guitarist will be bringing his experience to Trading Boundaries on July 31 in Sheffield Green, where he will be playing a mixture of Jethro Tull hits "re-imagined and updated" and his own music – a blend, Martin says, of Blues and rock. He said: "Touring is in my veins; I love being on the road as I have so much freedom with my music, which is what it's about for me." While he will be playing hits from Jethro Tull's back-catalogue like Aqualung, Bourée, Living in the Past, Bungle in the Jungle, Locomotive Breath and Thick as a Brick, Martin says he has been slowly distancing himself from the band's music since starting his own band four years ago. He said: "I started out in 2011 trying to establish myself as a Jethro Tull musician but I've moved on since then. I'm back in control of my own music and I've built up my own relationships with promoters and record companies. I've learnt so much about running a band the right way and I felt I was ready to have my own band. We all get on so well, everyone is fully involved with the music." Martin and his band will be coming to Trading Boundaries on July 31, doors open at 7pm. Tickets range from £25 to £55. Visit www.tradingboundaries.com to book online.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 12, 2015 12:59:32 GMT
www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Jethro Tull guitarist steps out on his own at Trading BoundariesBy East Grinstead Courier | Posted: July 11, 2015 By Jo Gilbert jo.gilbert@egcourier.co.uk www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Jethro-Tull-guitarist-steps/story-26849440-detail/story.html He said: "I started out in 2011 trying to establish myself as a Jethro Tull musician but I've moved on since then. I'm back in control of my own music and I've built up my own relationships with promoters and record companies. I've learnt so much about running a band the right way and I felt I was ready to have my own band. We all get on so well, everyone is fully involved with the music."Martin and his band will be coming to Trading Boundaries on July 31, doors open at 7pm. Tickets range from £25 to £55. Visit www.tradingboundaries.com to book online. Perhaps Martin's first efforts to form a band after 2011 were just a way to have fun. Pat O'May and others were old friends that he felt close to and wanted to rock with no matter the economical difficulties as a touring group. I felt it hindered Martin's stage presence and became a distraction to those who came to see Martin.
At this point I feel very good about these musicians which I am eager to see in December. The new album is also a plus and should be available soon. I always love to hear new music. Crank it up Martin Lancelot Barre!
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 13, 2015 0:19:16 GMT
Nice review from Friday night... Not sure if Richard Beesley was there.
SAN JAVIER JAZZ FESTIVAL LESSON FROM EX-GRAMMAR SCHOOL PUPIL - JETHRO TULL FAMED MARTIN BARRE MB Link By Andrew Atkinson / 2015-07-12 13:41:20 Martin Barre - of Jethro Tull BY ANDREW ATKINSON reporting from the San Javier Jazz Festival
GRAMMAR school educated Martin Barre - of Jethro Tull fame - certainly gave a lesson at the 2015 XVIII San Javier Jazz Festival.
'Hola, it's great to be here. We love the weather too and the food. We're really happy', said Barre. Barre, the guitarist of Jethro Tull for over four decades, whose album sales exceed 60 million, has worked alongside some of the world's top stars - including Paul McCartney and Phil Collins.
Having been on the same stage as Jimi Hendrix, Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, Barre's presence in Spain was one to be devoured. Birmingham born Barre, 68, fronted Jethro Tull's Martin Barre in an open air auditorium, thrilling the Murcia multi-national crowd.
Barre, voted 25th best Solo ever in America, and 20th best Solo ever in the United Kingdom, for his playing on 'Aqualung', won a Grammy Award in 1988, playing on the album: ‘Crest of a Knave’.
'I suspect there may be a Jethro Tull t shirt in the audience!', said Barre, who played a mix including The Beatles 'Eleanor Rigby'.
'Jethro Tully was a Blues Band in the beginning and that's what I'm trying to get back to', said Barre, who also performed 'Crossroads'
'Many years ago Robert Johnson created a benchmark 'Crossroads',' said Barre.
'We have really enjoyed the show. I'm getting a little older. Thank you for a great evening', said Barre, blowing kisses.
Barre, who boarded a plane to Italy straight after being on stage in Murcia, performed music from the Jethro Tull years - giving Tull fans and the broader audience the chance to hear tracks - not performed for many years.
Barre's band includes Richard Beesley, who has recorded and played with Michael Buble and Mark Ronson and toured with The Stylistics, The Supremes and Temptations.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 13, 2015 9:36:56 GMT
www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Jethro Tull guitarist steps out on his own at Trading BoundariesBy East Grinstead Courier | Posted: July 11, 2015 By Jo Gilbert jo.gilbert@egcourier.co.uk www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Jethro-Tull-guitarist-steps/story-26849440-detail/story.html He said: "I started out in 2011 trying to establish myself as a Jethro Tull musician but I've moved on since then. I'm back in control of my own music and I've built up my own relationships with promoters and record companies. I've learnt so much about running a band the right way and I felt I was ready to have my own band. We all get on so well, everyone is fully involved with the music."Martin and his band will be coming to Trading Boundaries on July 31, doors open at 7pm. Tickets range from £25 to £55. Visit www.tradingboundaries.com to book online. Perhaps Martin's first efforts to form a band after 2011 were just a way to have fun. Pat O'May and others were old friends that he felt close to and wanted to rock with no matter the economical difficulties as a touring group. I felt it hindered Martin's stage presence and became a distraction to those who came to see Martin.
At this point I feel very good about these musicians which I am eager to see in December. The new album is also a plus and should be available soon. I always love to hear new music. Crank it up Martin Lancelot Barre!
It's taken a year or two but it seems Martin has now got the nucleus of a manageable touring band as you said. When we saw Martin's band in Tavistock 3 years ago there was the impression that it was an embryonic group and with a certain amount of pruning it would work out well and it seems it has. It's now down to business music wise - all he needs is a top notch publicist/agent and things are well on the up.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 13, 2015 15:18:04 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 17, 2015 13:22:53 GMT
www.rockcellarmagazine.com/Progressive Rock on a Roll – Yes’ ‘Cruise to the Edge’ Sets Sail This FallWritten by: Paul Motter Friday, July 17, 2015 LinkProgressive Rock on a Roll
The Cruise to the Edge features YES and many other iconic progressive rock bandsArguably, popular music peaked as an art form in the late 1960s and early ’70s — the Beatles and Rolling Stones had some of their biggest hits, and other legendary rock giants were just starting to appear; Led Zeppelin, the Doobie Brothers and AC/DC.
Fueling the popularity of these bands was the new FM-radio format which focused on less talk and more cerebral playlists. FM radio led to “album-oriented rock” as a new musical genre. Some of the first of these bands were Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull and Procul Harum, followed by Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer and King Crimson.. . . . . . . . And so the third annual “Cruise to the Edge” progressive rock cruise featuring the band Yes and over two dozen other bands will sail November 15, 2015 from Miami. The other bands on the cruise marquee include Marillion, Spock’s Beard, Caravan, Saga and many individual artists who are well-known players in the prog-rock community including guitarists Allan Holdsworth (King Crimson, Soft Machine) and Martin Barre (Jethro Tull), and singer Casey MacPherson (Flying Colors).
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 17, 2015 15:13:44 GMT
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 23, 2015 2:07:38 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 29, 2015 15:11:41 GMT
www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Rock legend Martin Barre lines up Devon gigBy HERomPEllis | Posted: July 29, 2015 Martin Barre, legendary rock guitarist, who toured the world with Jethro Tull for 43 years, is back on the road and heading for Devon in September. It's a rare chance to see one of the most respected guitarists on the planet. Following the success of the UK tour last year, Martin and the band have a number of gigs booked nationwide from August to October including at The Phoenix in Exeter. Martin said: "We love being on the road and touring across the UK and Europe and seeing our dedicated fans. "It's going to be an exciting set with original versions of blues classics plus we will be performing tracks from the 'Order of Play' album, not forgetting brand new music from my upcoming album 'Back to Steel' , due to release in September". You can book tickets in advance from www.martinbarre.com.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 15:25:51 GMT
www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Rock legend Martin Barre lines up Devon gigBy HERomPEllis | Posted: July 29, 2015 Martin Barre, legendary rock guitarist, who toured the world with Jethro Tull for 43 years, is back on the road and heading for Devon in September. It's a rare chance to see one of the most respected guitarists on the planet. Following the success of the UK tour last year, Martin and the band have a number of gigs booked nationwide from August to October including at The Phoenix in Exeter. Martin said: "We love being on the road and touring across the UK and Europe and seeing our dedicated fans. "It's going to be an exciting set with original versions of blues classics plus we will be performing tracks from the 'Order of Play' album, not forgetting brand new music from my upcoming album 'Back to Steel' , due to release in September". You can book tickets in advance from www.martinbarre.com. Repeating... RIGHT ON!
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 30, 2015 11:37:47 GMT
Check this out... Manson Guitar Works Two great guitarists happened to meet at the MGW yesterday. As well as both being Manson guitar artists they have something else in common. Anyone?...
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Post by onewhiteduck on Jul 30, 2015 13:06:25 GMT
Both are named Martin.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 30, 2015 14:57:57 GMT
Manson Guitar Works Thank you OWD , yes of course its the wonderfully talented Martin Grech and the Legend that is Martin Barre
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 30, 2015 16:11:40 GMT
Rick Grech's son ?
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 31, 2015 1:44:42 GMT
Special Thanks to Remy (TULL 50) for his help with the cool banner Holy Elephant Cafe! Martin Barre Rocks @ Trading Boundaries MB Link
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 31, 2015 8:13:35 GMT
Beautiful... you should get paid for that.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 31, 2015 8:33:48 GMT
Don't think so unless hes keeping it very quiet. i59.images obliterated by tinypic/2vc6udg.jpg[/IMG] On another note is it compulsory for all recording studios to have the same patterned rug...through the decades? Is there a shop that supplies "hippy, Indian rugs for the smart studio?"
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