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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 27, 2014 9:31:19 GMT
Is the Wandering Man the personification of survival? Is there any significance or meaning in the wonky pronged pitchfork? Maybe the pitchfork is a staff of office or symbolic of a crook in a religious way? The Lone Stranger/Wandering Man is both historical and modern. The Wandering Jew is a great example from biblical times. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_JewThe Wandering Jew is a figure whose legend began to spread in Europe in the 13th century. The original legend concerns a Jew who taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. The exact nature of the wanderer's indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at Pontius Pilate's estate.In the 20th and 21st centuries you have the Wandering Man as the character played by Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns - The Man With No Name, Eli in The Book Of Eli, and the 1954 novel I Am Legend by the American writer Richard Matheson which spawned, amongst others, the film The Omega Man with Charlton Heston. The "the wonky pronged pitchfork" can be seen as either a "badge of office" - the Archbishop of Canterbury has a staff which refers back to a shepherds crook - or as an all purpose "tool of the trade" used for hunting, fishing etc. In "westerns" you often see the lone hero with a rifle - surely an update of the staff/spear motif.
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Post by onewhiteduck on Apr 27, 2014 11:50:09 GMT
I've got an EP of Another Christmas Song. There's a beast with a staff on that. Got to fly, going out so can't get a pic. See you later. Bet Graham has got it!!!!
onerushedduck
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Post by onewhiteduck on Apr 27, 2014 11:54:45 GMT
Here it is. Got it from Electrocutas Site. Hope he dosn't mind Attachments:
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 27, 2014 14:35:23 GMT
Here it is. Got it from Electrocutas Site. Hope he dosn't mind Pete McHugh won't mind as long as we acknowledge his involvement. Checked on my copy - artist's name is Mike Litherland.
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 27, 2014 15:52:35 GMT
In For A Pound"I've started, so I'll finish. I'm here, so I'll stay. Dally with a little lady, met along the way. In for a penny through the turnstile gate. Searching for the motherlode before it's too late. Barley grain sprouting, spilled upon the ground. I'm the mad hatter, getting fatter, in for a pound. I'm the mad hatter, getting fatter, in for a pound. In for a pound. In for a pound. In for a pound."'In for a penny, in for a pound' An English phrase meaning that if something is worth doing then it's a case of in for a penny, in for a pound, so that when gambling or taking a chance, you might as well go the whole way and take all the risks, not just some. Can also mean that having started something, you should see it through to the end, rather than stopping short ie you should “go the whole hog”. Interesting that the term mad hatter pre dates the character in Lewis Carroll's "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" "Mad as a hatter" is a colloquial phrase used in conversation to refer to a crazy person. In 18th and 19th century England mercury was used in the production of felt, which was used in the manufacturing of hats common of the time. People who worked in these hat factories were exposed daily to trace amounts of the metal, which accumulated within their bodies over time, causing some workers to develop dementia caused by mercury poisoning (called mad hatter syndrome). Thus, the phrase became popular as a way to refer to someone who was perceived as insane.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_as_a_hatterChecking the phrase mad hatter I also found this. The Edgar Broughton Band's song "Madhatter" - this is the second verse I am the madhatter And I'm getting fatter If you'd like to know I stood in the queue To do what I do With nowhere to go
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 27, 2014 21:43:05 GMT
The things you learn being a Tullfan. I didn't associate it with the Mad March Hare - I always thought it started with Lewis Carroll. My update for today is... Heavy Metals - I got it. I thought it was too diddley diddley but no - it's just about perfect. I was singing along and pictured a happy Blacksmith at his work. i61.images obliterated by tinypic/24wc83m.jpg[/IMG] However the stand out one of the day is (after, After These Wars) New Blood, New Veins - it's bloody brilliant. It's so early,swinging 1960's in sound reminded me a bit of this - visually as well, don't ask me why The album is all rather theatrical and sets the scene for great shows that and the promise of oft forgotten songs. Old ears, new sounds ringing in the new tour. Like it, lump it, old(ish) chaps with t-shirts on. Lets get to it! Ferry/flying. Time to check the bank bal..ance.
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 28, 2014 11:46:23 GMT
The Pax Britannica "......We'll leave them gifts of architecture, engineering, laws and more. The willow bat, the bowler hat of gentlemen who keep the score. Head-up code of moral conduct, never minions to deceive. Straight the ball and, best of all, when time is come, we take our leave.
Pax Britannica, Pax Britannica, rules the headland and the wave. Hansa spirit will enrich us, keep us from an early grave. My sweet Victoria, your dearest Albert; two ledger lines above the stave."Googled "Hansa" which came up with: The Hanseatic League, known as Hansa or Hanse in various Germanic languages, was a 13th–17th century alliance of European trading cities. The willow bat et al is a reference to cricket and its code of conduct. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cricket
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Post by rainbowblue on Apr 28, 2014 15:04:08 GMT
More beautiful images Graham. Is the Wandering Man the personification of survival? Is there any significance or meaning in the wonky pronged pitchfork? I think the Wandering Man is the modern version of The Grim Reaper. Complete with hat instead of hood and Pitchfork staff instead of sickle, he has watched through the centuries as man has destroyed his planet as well as his fellow man. You see him periodically through the pages of the book as if watching man do his work. To me, it`s evident in Cold Dead Reckoning that he is offering a second chance. "A hint of a direction to avoid further mishaps"? "Send to us a guiding symbol, tiny bird upon the wing" "will higher mighty force redeem the one who dropped the moral compass. "There must be another Eden, future garden of earthly delights", "Next time, no fruit: in birthday suit, walk naked through the heavenly night". Will we learn from our mistakes? If given the chance, would we do things differently?
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 28, 2014 19:41:58 GMT
The Hanseatic league still echoes in Germany...the license plates of the cities that were in the league still have an 'H' in front of the town name...HH for Hamburg, HB for Bremen...HL for Lubeck..as in 'hansestadt hamburg' et cetera. When you hitch-hike as much as I did you learn to read license plates so you know who to pester at rest stops and gas stations. I used to be a Wandering Man !
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Post by maddogfagin on May 3, 2014 18:11:12 GMT
. . . . Neil, Buzz, and Michael, they made a team. The right stuff in a can of spam. The brave adventure came to nought, cruel economics had their say. A tiny bubble of pure white light from mighty engines roared on Pad 39A in the night.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 3, 2014 20:23:12 GMT
And you know ian visited the launch area a couple tours ago so if he says it was 39A...it was probably 39A
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Post by maddogfagin on May 4, 2014 10:16:21 GMT
Enter The Uninvited Willy Conker, work cut out In Domesday pages marks our number Sheep and pigs amongst the hundreds Fat tithes and taxes to encumberA hundred is a geographic division formerly used in England, Wales, South Australia and some parts of the United States, to divide a larger region into smaller administrative divisions; similar divisions were made in Denmark, Southern Schleswig, Sweden, Finland, Estonia and Norway. Originally, when introduced by the Saxons between 613 and 1017, a hundred had land which sustained approximately 100 households, defined as the land covered by one hundred hides, and was headed by a hundredman or hundred eolder During Norman times the hundred would pay geld based on the number of hides. To assess how much everyone had to pay, a clerk and a knight were sent by the king to each county, they sat with the shire-reeve (or sheriff), of the county and a select group of local knights. There would be two knights from each hundred. After it was determined what geld had to be paid, then the knights of the hundred and the bailiff of the hundred were responsible for getting the money to the sheriff, and the sheriff to the Exchequer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_(county_division)
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Post by steelmonkey on May 4, 2014 21:43:23 GMT
Such cool stuff to learn...and be impressed that Ian taps in to details like this in his lyrics. He butchers the pronunciation of Via Dolorosa.
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Post by morthoron on May 5, 2014 1:23:52 GMT
Enter The Uninvited Willy Conker, work cut out In Domesday pages marks our number Sheep and pigs amongst the hundreds Fat tithes and taxes to encumberA hundred is a geographic division formerly used in England, Wales, South Australia and some parts of the United States, to divide a larger region into smaller administrative divisions; similar divisions were made in Denmark, Southern Schleswig, Sweden, Finland, Estonia and Norway. Originally, when introduced by the Saxons between 613 and 1017, a hundred had land which sustained approximately 100 households, defined as the land covered by one hundred hides, and was headed by a hundredman or hundred eolder During Norman times the hundred would pay geld based on the number of hides. To assess how much everyone had to pay, a clerk and a knight were sent by the king to each county, they sat with the shire-reeve (or sheriff), of the county and a select group of local knights. There would be two knights from each hundred. After it was determined what geld had to be paid, then the knights of the hundred and the bailiff of the hundred were responsible for getting the money to the sheriff, and the sheriff to the Exchequer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_(county_division)*Puts on his Medieval History minor hat, which could be a bowler, I suppose* Actually, the Anglo-Saxon Hundred was also commensurate to Danelaw England's "Wapentake" (weapon-take to be literal), or the area of land it would take to provide one hundred men-at-arms for the king (the Wapentake replaced the Hundred in such counties as Nottinghamshire, Rutland, Yorkshire and Leicestershire). Interestingly enough, several Hundreds together are referred to as a "Rape" in Sussex. And no, I didn't make that up, and yes, this has literally nothing to do with the discussion. Merely dispensing the useless trivia I gained by spending thousands of dollars at university.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 9, 2014 15:59:22 GMT
"Hard, cast in iron, that engineer: God bless Isambard!
Piston-scraping, furnace-busting, (he) plays the winning card."
The Royal Albert Bridge is a railway bridge that spans the River Tamar in England, United Kingdom between Plymouth, on the Devon bank, and Saltash on the Cornish bank. Its unique design consists of two 455 feet (138.7 m) lenticular iron trusses 100 feet (30.5 m) above the water, with conventional plate-girder approach spans. This gives it a total length of 2,187.5 feet (666.8 m). It carries the Cornish Main Line railway in and out of Cornwall. It was designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel. Surveying started in 1848 and construction commenced in 1854. The first main span was positioned in 1857 and the completed bridge was opened by Prince Albert on 2 May 1859. Brunel died later that year and his name was then placed above the portals at either end of the bridge as a memorial. Work was carried out during the twentieth century to replace the approach spans and strengthen the main spans. It has attracted sightseers since its construction and has appeared in many paintings, photographs, guidebooks, postage stamps and on UK£2 coin. Anniversary celebrations took place in 1959 and 2009. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Albert_Bridge
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Post by maddogfagin on May 21, 2014 10:02:13 GMT
"Rain, Steam, Speed at Maidenhead - Turner's vision wide. Over bridges, girders, hot-driven rivets safely guide passenger wagons from Paddington to Bristol's briny blue. On to break the waves, with a thousand horses, turn the churning screw."
Rain, Steam and Speed - The Great Western Railway; the painting depicts an early locomotive of the Great Western Railway crossing the River Thames on Brunel's recently completed Maidenhead Railway Bridge. Painted in 1844 by J. M. W. Turner (1775 - 1851)
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 21, 2014 10:26:28 GMT
Never seen this Turner painting.Yes I am a bit a a philistine. (Is that spelt correctly)IA's lyrics are just amazing, so knowledgable, itelligent and thoughtful. There again not keen on some of 'The Browning of the Green' ............as tin sardines.. bit cheesy for me.
After These Wars just gone to number one in my Homo list.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 21, 2014 11:00:54 GMT
Never seen this Turner painting.Yes I am a bit a a philistine. (Is that spelt correctly)IA's lyrics are just amazing, so knowledgable, itelligent and thoughtful. There again not keen on some of 'The Browning of the Green' ............as tin sardines.. bit cheesy for me. After These Wars just gone to number one in my Homo list. Oneramblinginworkduck Good to see you're working at gainful employment oneworkingduck. This is the bridge today - still going strong and a testament to the ingenuity of Isambard Kingdom Brunel As built and opened on 1 July 1839, the bridge carried two 7 ft 1⁄4 in (2,140 mm) Brunel gauge railway tracks. In due course traffic to and from London increased enormously, and mixed gauge tracks were provided between London and Bristol during 1861. In anticipation of the final conversion to the standard rail gauge, during 1890–1892 the bridge was widened on each side to carry four standard gauge tracks. This work was carried out under the supervision of Sir John Fowler, the width overall being increased from 30ft to 57ft 3in. (9.1m to 17.5m). However, this was undertaken so sympathetically that the outward appearance of the bridge remained almost unaltered.
Maidenhead Railway Bridge features in Rain, Steam and Speed – The Great Western Railway, painted by Turner in 1844 and now in the National Gallery, London
In July 2012, the Maidenhead Railway Bridge was upgraded to Grade I listed status by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport following a consultation with English Heritage.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Railway_Bridge
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Post by nonrabbit on May 21, 2014 11:27:34 GMT
I used to cross that bridge regularly going from Slough to Maidenhead. Terry Wogan lives not far from there and I used to drink at a pub just under the bridge and up the river a bit. I was posh in those days well as much as you could be living in Slough
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Post by nonrabbit on May 21, 2014 11:48:10 GMT
and mentioning Slough there was a homage to Brunel that no longer exists and everyone's glad of that including Mr Brunel who can rest easy now. Bloody 'ell I've just seen what they've replaced it with I'd feel like one of the Jetson's waiting for the bus to Burnham - sorry I digress.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 21, 2014 12:18:59 GMT
After These Wars is phen....om....inal!!...just listening This was my Co-op where I was sent for the milk and bread. i62.images obliterated by tinypic/2vaziwh.jpg[/IMG] I do realise that these pictures of my childhood look like they're from the Victorian age.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 21, 2014 17:53:45 GMT
Magic coincidence as this morning's ride to work featured Enginneer and After These Wars as today's top two...really...and I am a confirmed and forever train nerd. Admiring bridges, girders, tunnels and locomotives all my life. All to my place for frieght train ride through the mountains? Not that I would mind a visit to yours where daily life intersects with history and Tull lyrics.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 22, 2014 8:17:44 GMT
Magic coincidence as this morning's ride to work featured Enginneer and After These Wars as today's top two...really...and I am a confirmed and forever train nerd. Admiring bridges, girders, tunnels and locomotives all my life. All to my place for frieght train ride through the mountains? Not that I would mind a visit to yours where daily life intersects with history and Tull lyrics. Had I known you were a train nerd I would have posted this yesterday. A GWR railway engine which was used on Brunel's wide 7' gauge tracks and looks very similar to the one that's featured in Turner's painting.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 22, 2014 8:27:54 GMT
IA included a reference to I.K.Brunel in the song "Made In England" from way back in 1983.
He grew up through the schools and factories Brunel's tunnels and bridges bold Grey towers built high on that Kingdom With apartments still unsold
Often wondered if the pun on the word "Kingdom" was intentional
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Post by nonrabbit on May 22, 2014 14:08:45 GMT
Magic coincidence as this morning's ride to work featured Enginneer and After These Wars as today's top two...really...and I am a confirmed and forever train nerd. Admiring bridges, girders, tunnels and locomotives all my life. All to my place for frieght train ride through the mountains? Not that I would mind a visit to yours where daily life intersects with history and Tull lyrics. Sooner the better. Basic TourWe'll start at Skye then south to Edinburgh back across to Glasgow -not Tull related but it's a better city than Edinburgh then down to Blackpool, Cornwall and back across to London. Tull Fan TourAs above but we stop off at the houses of Tull fans on route. Homo Erraticus TourGlasgow - finest example of a Victorian city. Lindisfarne and ferry out to the North sea looking for a sunken land. Blackpool Grammar School. Maidenhead Railway bridge Three nights accommodation at The Turnpike Inn, Deep In The Woods, costume optional.
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 22, 2014 15:05:17 GMT
Hang on Jimmy.When leaving Blackpool head over to Wales ( North to South ) back over the Severn Bridge to England, head on for twenty miles turn left up to Minety, then down to Cornwall. Much more picturesque route than via The Midlands ( no offence to Midlanders ) and you get to see some proper culture on the way
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Post by steelmonkey on May 22, 2014 15:06:43 GMT
Is Brunel mentioned in 'Journeyman' as well? I can't look at lyrics from work computer.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 22, 2014 15:07:52 GMT
Wale-watching ?
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Post by maddogfagin on May 22, 2014 16:05:47 GMT
Is Brunel mentioned in 'Journeyman' as well? I can't look at lyrics from work computer. No but it's full of Betjeman charm and word play Spine-tingling railway sleepers Sleepy houses lying four-square and firm Orange beams divide the darkness Rumbling fit to turn the waking worm. Sliding through Victorian tunnels where green moss oozes from the pores. Dull echoes from the wet embankments Battlefield allotments. Fresh open sores.
In late night commuter madness Double-locked black briefcase on the floor like a faithful dog with master sleeping in the draught beside the carriage door. To each Journeyman his own home-coming Cold supper nearing with each station stop Frosty flakes on empty platforms Fireside slippers waiting. Flip. Flop.
Journeyman night-tripping on the late fantastic Too late to stop for tea at Gerard's Cross and hear the soft shoes on the footbridge shuffle as the wheels turn biting on the midnight frost. On the late commuter special Carriage lights that flicker, fade and die Howling into hollow blackness Dusky diesel shudders in full cry. Down redundant morning papers Abandon crosswords with a cough Stationmaster in his wisdom told the guard to turn the heating off.
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Post by tullabye on May 22, 2014 16:36:38 GMT
I was making mention of Made in England and just saw that it was already done. Excuse the post.
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