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Post by JTull 007 on May 10, 2014 16:03:47 GMT
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Post by treeborn on May 10, 2014 16:40:49 GMT
Went to Cambridge Corn Exchange concert last night,brilliant show,enjoyed all of it,Critique Oblique was wonderful to hear,why does Ian put himself down about the PP masterpiece.Only thing annoying is the fact it was all seated,why do venues do this?You could see the fans wanting to dance & the band seemed they wanted them to also,but us wrinkly geriatrics dare not move from our seats in fear of being ousted out of the hall.Hope you can dance at Ipswich.
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Post by JTull 007 on May 11, 2014 18:21:26 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on May 11, 2014 18:35:32 GMT
yeah...don't act like a bunch of Leicester Squares !! ha ha ha...I crack myself up.
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 11, 2014 20:02:36 GMT
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 11, 2014 20:04:58 GMT
From The Ministry. Knew I wasn't a goldfish. 6/5/14 Colston Hall Bristol, UK 19:30 start. No support. Concert interrupted by an audience member's heart attack! A 45 min delay required abbreviation of the setlist. Doggerland, Heavy Metals, Enter The Uninvited, Puer Ferox Adventus (interrupted), Meliora Sequamur, The Engineer, The Pax Britannica, New Blood Old Veins, In For A Pound, The Browning Of The Green, Per Errationes Ad Astra, Cold Dead Reckoning, Living In The Past, Sweet Dream, Teacher, With You There To Help Me, A Passion Play excerpt (Critique Oblique), Too Old To Rock'N'Roll..., Songs From The Wood, My God, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath |
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Post by jackinthegreen on May 11, 2014 22:22:12 GMT
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Post by steelmonkey on May 12, 2014 4:20:11 GMT
Have you been talking to my nine year old daughter again ?
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Post by TangoTull on May 13, 2014 1:17:20 GMT
Live in Leicester : Too Old To Rock N Roll 
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Post by JTull 007 on May 13, 2014 2:29:05 GMT
Gracias Sebastian. I will download this before You Tube blocks it!
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Post by TangoTull on May 13, 2014 12:56:59 GMT
Gracias Sebastian. I will download this before You Tube blocks it!
Let the videos stay on as long as they don't make money off them.
Dedicated to you and all the old fans that are here hahaha!  . From a young fan
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Post by JTull 007 on May 13, 2014 14:54:30 GMT
After checking the early videos posted, the heavy hand of BMG and Gmbh are upon us. This sucks!
All You Tubes will be blocked once the pencil pushers find out. 
The only way to enjoy these is with an App,
that allows you to download these to your own hardrive before they are blocked. Be prepared.  www.flv.com/flvdownloader.html
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Post by maddogfagin on May 13, 2014 15:09:24 GMT
After checking the early videos posted, the heavy hand of BMG and Gmbh are upon us. This sucks!
All You Tubes will be blocked once the pencil pushers find out.
The only way to enjoy these is with an App,
that allows you to download these to your own hardrive before they are blocked. Be prepared. www.flv.com/flvdownloader.html Strange that these videos have been blocked but not other live stuff. There is even a complete download of HE on youtube and I wonder if that'll get pulled ? |
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Post by TangoTull on May 13, 2014 18:17:13 GMT
After checking the early videos posted, the heavy hand of BMG and Gmbh are upon us. This sucks!
All You Tubes will be blocked once the pencil pushers find out.
The only way to enjoy these is with an App,
that allows you to download these to your own hardrive before they are blocked. Be prepared. www.flv.com/flvdownloader.HTML Here you have a new "my god" : Live in Leicester . It's strange but the British almost not upload videos to youtube.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=31z9EV3m94s
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Post by earsoftin on May 13, 2014 18:56:37 GMT
Leicester was fantastic but the size of the audience was very disappointing. The main body of the hall seemed full but from where I sat in the right circle I could see the other side of the circle virtually empty. This was especially mystifying as I had had to get a ticket for Leicester after Derby was cancelled (bad fire in the venue). So I thought that two audiences (Derby being not far from Leicester, so overlapping catchments) might have filled the whole place - especially as TAAB2 last year in Derby was full. It was a little like getting empty seats on scheduled flights - great for your immediate comfort, but you worry that the service can't last for long. I wonder if this was the same at other venues - perhaps the ideas on HE are just too complex - although I must say that the absentees missed a real treat. Some of the visuals were great and enhanced understanding of HE - like the emergence of Che from the face of Jesus which gives a whole new meaning to Wild Child and the contradictions of Christianity (the train pictures were great too!) Second half was also great - loved hearing Teacher (at last!) and Ian's introduction to it. Here he managed to announce (after With You There To Help Me) that we had just listened to Sweet Dream - which is what he should have been announcing. DG and FO corrected him in suitably theatrical manner - he also suffered a broken key on his flute and managed to make the best of that. Passion Play extract brought a smile to my face (even if I'm not that album's greatest fan - sorry to let the side down!) but for me a standout was Farm on the Freeway, enjoyably heavy. Programme also really good, so full marks all round from me.
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Post by Essan on May 13, 2014 19:32:52 GMT
Leicester was fantastic but the size of the audience was very disappointing. The main body of the hall seemed full but from where I sat in the right circle I could see the other side of the circle virtually empty. This was especially mystifying as I had had to get a ticket for Leicester after Derby was cancelled (bad fire in the venue). So I thought that two audiences (Derby being not far from Leicester, so overlapping catchments) might have filled the whole place - especially as TAAB2 last year in Derby was full. It was a little like getting empty seats on scheduled flights - great for your immediate comfort, but you worry that the service can't last for long. I wonder if this was the same at other venues - perhaps the ideas on HE are just too complex - although I must say that the absentees missed a real treat. Oxford was the same and I get the impression many other gigs have been far from sell outs. Yet I'm sure the TAAB2 tour had much bigger audiences. Really don't know why. And frankly it's a bit worrying  |
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Post by steelmonkey on May 13, 2014 20:20:30 GMT
The sparse crowds are killing me...KILLING ME....who predicted this era of rave reviews and empty seats? but no, I don't prefer near sellout and no new material. Best hope is that the rave reviews lead to fuller venues or that GB is the anomaly and Europe and USA tours find Ian and the band gazing out at fuller halls.
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Post by jackinthegreen on May 13, 2014 20:28:34 GMT
I agree that the empty seats are worrying.....  I think it's a combination of things. Too much non-stop touring, time goes quickly nowadays it doesn't seem too long ago when the band were here for the TAAB tour, plus Ian's voice, it has to be said many fans I know have stopped going to see Ian because of that.Then there are the hard core Tull fans not liking Martin Barre not being there, and are not interested in Florian, even although he is an awesome player! Also the average Tull fan is getting older all the time, so some will have decided to stop going to gigs...  ...preffering to sit at home watching TV... .....plus I think that the TAAB/TAAB2 tour perhaps got bums on seats out of nostalgia and curiosity but many who attended who were not familiar with the original TAAB or much of the back cat and so may have been musically challenged by it all......they probably wanted LITP and other such single releases....so did that tour do more harm than good? I was afraid about the audience turn-out for this tour, I just had a feeling that there would come a time when Ian would be playing to half empty halls, and not big halls either, sad indeed because it is still brilliant music played by brilliant musicians. I personally back Ian 100% for writing a new album and playing it live, he has to keep himself challenged and excited about playing night after night, he will always be a genius musician to me, but there are not enough fans like me left to fill these gigs night after night.  Just hope that everyone who goes to the gigs has a great night, including the guys on stage, and that poor audience turn outs don't affect their mood too much. It is worth remembering that Ian with Tull sold out a record number of nights at Madison Square Gardens back in the day, I think it was 72 (was it 4 or 5 nights.  .) Ahhh, nostalgia aint what it used to be....  |
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 13, 2014 21:18:08 GMT
Good Points Jack. I would say that I don't agree the TAAB 1/2 'did more harm than good' because it was musically superb and I feel honoured to have seen it twice. It rates right up there in my live Tull/IA experiences. The current tour I enjoyed just as much and that will stay with me rather than the empty seats. The experience of seeing these 1st class musicians perform new material is what its all about for me.
Cheers
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Post by hardliner on May 13, 2014 21:30:12 GMT
I agree that the empty seats are worrying..... I think it's a combination of things. Too much non-stop touring, time goes quickly nowadays it doesn't seem too long ago when the band were here for the TAAB tour, plus Ian's voice, it has to be said many fans I know have stopped going to see Ian because of that.Then there are the hard core Tull fans not liking Martin Barre not being there, and are not interested in Florian, even although he is an awesome player! Also the average Tull fan is getting older all the time, so some will have decided to stop going to gigs... ...preffering to sit at home watching TV... .....plus I think that the TAAB/TAAB2 tour perhaps got bums on seats out of nostalgia and curiosity but many who attended who were not familiar with the original TAAB or much of the back cat and so may have been musically challenged by it all......they probably wanted LITP and other such single releases....so did that tour do more harm than good? I was afraid about the audience turn-out for this tour, I just had a feeling that there would come a time when Ian would be playing to half empty halls, and not big halls either, sad indeed because it is still brilliant music played by brilliant musicians. I personally back Ian 100% for writing a new album and playing it live, he has to keep himself challenged and excited about playing night after night, he will always be a genius musician to me, but there are not enough fans like me left to fill these gigs night after night. Just hope that everyone who goes to the gigs has a great night, including the guys on stage, and that poor audience turn outs don't affect their mood too much. It is worth remembering that Ian with Tull sold out a record number of nights at Madison Square Gardens back in the day, I think it was 72 (was it 4 or 5 nights. .) Ahhh, nostalgia aint what it used to be.... For me personally its plain simple - Martin Barre missing. I Watched all the greatest hits tours thru the 2000's and yep it was getting stale but the reason i went was mainly to hear Martin's exquisite playing. For me Martin is irreplaceable and was the heart of the band. Ive listened to HE many times and to be honest i only like 2 tracks Puer Ferox A and Tripudium ,TAAB2 is a better album for me. Could i sit thru the whole HE album - No im afraid. Does the current band interest me - again No . Ian is playing about 5 miles from my house but im giving it a miss and travelling a 200 mile round trip later in the year to see Martin . Im really looking forward to it. If Ian was doing something different to Tull-esque material in the vain of Rupis Dance ,SLOB id be there in a flash. Everyone to their own,glad some are enjoying the current tour. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 21:44:09 GMT
Review: Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull, Ipswich Regent, May 10 www.eadt.co.uk/entertainment/review_ian_anderson_of_jethro_tull_ipswich_regent_may_10_1_3597145 Monday, May 12, 2014 8:10 PM He has sold 60million records worldwide and is famous for playing the flute standing on one leg – but this reviewer can honestly say he has never heard any of his songs. Ian Anderson, below, the man behind prog-rock band, Jethro Tull, came to the Ipswich Regent on Saturday night. On hearing about the gig my dad immediately pressed me to get tickets so I duly obliged. But on arrival it quickly became an in-joke between his music mates that I was probably the youngest person there. The first half was an hour’s worth of material from Anderson’s new album, Homo Erraticus. Beginning with a comic short film on the perils of age, Anderson and his band cohorts made for convincing actors with gags dismissing the health wisdom of green tea and muesli, much to the audience’s delight. Returning after the intermission the 66-year-old performer went through a catalogue of Tull’s greatest hits. Despite impressing the faithful this newcomer was not overwhelmed. Instead, the newer material complete with a dramatic video backdrop was, barring two stodgy numbers, very agreeable. Touring much of Europe and the USA for the rest of the year, fans should certainly grab the chance to see the eccentric musician and his talented band. Matt Hunter |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 21:48:29 GMT
I agree that the empty seats are worrying..... I think it's a combination of things. Too much non-stop touring, time goes quickly nowadays it doesn't seem too long ago when the band were here for the TAAB tour, plus Ian's voice, it has to be said many fans I know have stopped going to see Ian because of that.Then there are the hard core Tull fans not liking Martin Barre not being there, and are not interested in Florian, even although he is an awesome player! Also the average Tull fan is getting older all the time, so some will have decided to stop going to gigs... ...preffering to sit at home watching TV... .....plus I think that the TAAB/TAAB2 tour perhaps got bums on seats out of nostalgia and curiosity but many who attended who were not familiar with the original TAAB or much of the back cat and so may have been musically challenged by it all......they probably wanted LITP and other such single releases....so did that tour do more harm than good? I was afraid about the audience turn-out for this tour, I just had a feeling that there would come a time when Ian would be playing to half empty halls, and not big halls either, sad indeed because it is still brilliant music played by brilliant musicians. I personally back Ian 100% for writing a new album and playing it live, he has to keep himself challenged and excited about playing night after night, he will always be a genius musician to me, but there are not enough fans like me left to fill these gigs night after night. Just hope that everyone who goes to the gigs has a great night, including the guys on stage, and that poor audience turn outs don't affect their mood too much. It is worth remembering that Ian with Tull sold out a record number of nights at Madison Square Gardens back in the day, I think it was 72 (was it 4 or 5 nights. .) Ahhh, nostalgia aint what it used to be.... For me personally its plain simple - Martin Barre missing. I Watched all the greatest hits tours thru the 2000's and yep it was getting stale but the reason i went was mainly to hear Martin's exquisite playing. For me Martin is irreplaceable and was the heart of the band. Ive listened to HE many times and to be honest i only like 2 tracks Puer Ferox A and Tripudium ,TAAB2 is a better album for me. Could i sit thru the whole HE album - No im afraid. Does the current band interest me - again No . Ian is playing about 5 miles from my house but im giving it a miss and travelling a 200 mile round trip later in the year to see Martin . Im really looking forward to it. If Ian was doing something different to Tull-esque material in the vain of Rupis Dance ,SLOB id be there in a flash. Everyone to their own,glad some are enjoying the current tour. Martin Barre returning would be nice and ticket sales for small venues wouldn't be a problem with him in tow. + If the shows were billed Jethro Tull they would certainly sell more tickets IMO. I went to the Brick2 tour, but I'm not likely to attend HE. |
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Post by atomicsynth on May 14, 2014 2:17:38 GMT
I too am hopeful that the tour will take wings regarding attendance. The stop I'm going to in Nov in DC will be the smallest venue I've ever seen Ian play around here. I wonder if part of it, the attendance, has to do with it has been virtually non stop touring for years now. So impressive he could do a new album despite the hectic schedule, but I fear people think it to be Tabb2 rehashed in many ways, same band, etc and this may reflect directly in reduced attendance.
I think Homo Erraticus is a good record. I was hoping for more of a return to a heavier Tull-ish sound as I recall reading a quote somewhere from Ian in advance of the record that there would be more emphasis on electric guitar. I don't think the album has fully delivered on this as a significant chunk sounds like a Tabb2 continuation.
I have noted above the comments lamenting Martin Barre not being involved. I suppose there are reasons we simply won't know but Florian is very capable when he is perhaps allowed to open up. And in my opinion, Martin Barre's tone was not what it once was; maybe the Soldano amp or the pedalboard but his guitar did not sound the same in the 90's.
Honestly, moreso than the absence of Martin Barre, I don't think the current keyboardist and drummer are anywhere near Barriemore Barlow and John Evan, who were, again, in my opinion, absolutely perfect.
Tull used to have a wild abandon about them in their playing, both in studio and live. Again, in my opinion, this devil may care style of playing diminished through the 90's; call it age, attrition, whatever, but I attribute it to the loss of the above mentioned players who were the defacto best.
Doane Perry was the best successor to Barlow in my opinion.
I think what I'm trying to say is that the drummer and keyboardist count for more in the current sound than does the guitar, and the restrained style of playing from Tabb2 to now in comparision to the great formers' shows clearly. It could be that the arrangements themselves are more controlled or more less than in comparison to the day as the rich contrapuntal secondary lines that used to permeate Tull just isn't there like back then, so unfortunately I have to look to the players.
And yes, the points about Ian's voice are noted. Age and years are truly a hard thing. It is good he has a second singer now to help but it is a different thing to now get used to because that voice is not Ian, who used to be the sole focal in his performances.
One also must accept that this isn't going to go on forever, nor will the heyday of the 70's and early 80's ever come back. Jethro Tull from the 90's on, to me, no longer sounded like the Jethro Tull of old but then I personally wasn't into the world music trend going on then at all. But conversely, nor am I of the opinion that the loss of blues-ness was at all a spiral for Tull as Songs From The Wood , for example, was superlative and one of the true great achievements; one could say groundbreaking.
So ( my own subjective opinion) Martin Barre's emphasis by his own admission is a return to , of all things, a keyboardless (which is ridiculous) version of blues based Tull music as even the Benefit album was full of organ and piano. Keyboards are so vital to Tull.
But I am still looking forward to attending the new show in Nov, no matter what crowd or lack of there may be. I've been an Ian fan from my teen years on so I'm there to support him. His flute playing hasn't lost anything over the years but yes his voice has waned from Crest Of A Knave on progressively from the injury.
The last point I'd make is that the recording of both Tabb2 and Homo Erraticus, to me, over monitors, lacks the punch of earlier Tull recordings from the 80's backwards. Some might blame it on digital vs analog but I am not so apt to agree with such because digital can also sound big. It depends on who is engineering, mixing and mastering and what encompasses the signal chain. Example being that an analog Neve console is one choice for warming of Digital tracks and certainly other choices are abound but most of all, it is the engineer just as Geoff Emetick defined the Beatles recorded sound.
But I am happy that there is still a new Ian album to listen to and that is an important thing in this transient era.
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For me personally its plain simple - Martin Barre missing. I Watched all the greatest hits tours thru the 2000's and yep it was getting stale but the reason i went was mainly to hear Martin's exquisite playing. For me Martin is irreplaceable and was the heart of the band. Ive listened to HE many times and to be honest i only like 2 tracks Puer Ferox A and Tripudium ,TAAB2 is a better album for me. Could i sit thru the whole HE album - No im afraid. Does the current band interest me - again No . Ian is playing about 5 miles from my house but im giving it a miss and travelling a 200 mile round trip later in the year to see Martin . Im really looking forward to it. If Ian was doing something different to Tull-esque material in the vain of Rupis Dance ,SLOB id be there in a flash. Everyone to their own,glad some are enjoying the current tour. Martin Barre returning would be nice and ticket sales for small venues wouldn't be a problem with him in tow. + If the shows were billed Jethro Tull they would certainly sell more tickets IMO. I went to the Brick2 tour, but I'm not likely to attend HE. I think asking Barre back to bolster tickets sales would be shabbier than asking for the split in the first place. This band made Homo Erraticus, a record that has attracted a lot of interest from Tull and prog fans alike. They have a right to play it live. P.S. I still love HE. |
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Post by stevep on May 14, 2014 4:37:36 GMT
Just had a look and the Sage in Newcastle still has more than 200 seats left out of a total of around 1600. I remember there being lots of seats available on the TAAB2 concert in the City Hall there a few years back. I was lucky enough to see the same concert in Buenos Aires last year and the 3000+ concert was sold out well in advance.
My view is that (despite what IA says about Tull and IA concerts being the same thing essentially) more people will attend a Jethro Tull concert. I would expect a Tull concert in say the City Hall to be much better attended.
Other reasons for low attendances - hard times for many folk financially just now, IA's weak vocals (heard lots of folk comment on this after concerts). I also remember folk moaning about the TAAB2 concert about the fact he did not play any hits and there was no encore in the earlier concerts. I guess us hard Tull fans liked the chance to hear TAAB2 but many attendees just want to hear the songs they know. I am giving the concert a miss this time as I am just not keen on HE and I am working away in Europe. I just don't have the motivation to attend this time - must be getting too old to rock.. Or at least sing along in Latin.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 14, 2014 9:12:01 GMT
Ian said in an interview a while back that if people wanted to turn up then fair enough realising that this is a new venture so I don't think he'll be too surprised by the figures at the end of the tour - if they continue like this. Everything is changing in Tull land and some will embrace the changes and some will inevitably drop off from either going to shows or buying albums I don't believe that they ever drop out completely and will continue to appreciate what it meant to them and the legacy of Tull. I have a asked this question a number of times and I never seem to get an answer; Would attendance figures been any different if they had had a good long break from touring? more questions:) How many non hard-core Tull fans would actually have gone to a yearly concert anyway? If the attendance figures were made up of hard-core Tull fans - are there really that many? What would the situation re attendance figures and enthusiasm have been like ( hard-core/non hard-core) if Tull had toured say every five years instead? Enough questions and a great picture for historical reasons and from an audience prospective sent to us via Twitter by the London 24 magazine ![]() i58.images obliterated by tinypic/2m2e0b4.jpg[/IMG] |
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Post by maddogfagin on May 14, 2014 12:03:46 GMT
Just had a look and the Sage in Newcastle still has more than 200 seats left out of a total of around 1600. I remember there being lots of seats available on the TAAB2 concert in the City Hall there a few years back. I was lucky enough to see the same concert in Buenos Aires last year and the 3000+ concert was sold out well in advance. My view is that (despite what IA says about Tull and IA concerts being the same thing essentially) more people will attend a Jethro Tull concert. I would expect a Tull concert in say the City Hall to be much better attended. Other reasons for low attendances - hard times for many folk financially just now, IA's weak vocals (heard lots of folk comment on this after concerts). I also remember folk moaning about the TAAB2 concert about the fact he did not play any hits and there was no encore in the earlier concerts. I guess us hard Tull fans liked the chance to hear TAAB2 but many attendees just want to hear the songs they know. I am giving the concert a miss this time as I am just not keen on HE and I am working away in Europe. I just don't have the motivation to attend this time - must be getting too old to rock.. Or at least sing along in Latin.   |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 12:06:42 GMT
Martin Barre returning would be nice and ticket sales for small venues wouldn't be a problem with him in tow. + If the shows were billed Jethro Tull they would certainly sell more tickets IMO. I went to the Brick2 tour, but I'm not likely to attend HE. I think asking Barre back to bolster tickets sales would be shabbier than asking for the split in the first place. This band made Homo Erraticus, a record that has attracted a lot of interest from Tull and prog fans alike. They have a right to play it live. P.S. I still love HE. Of course you are right craigz, I was just dreaming of Martin Barre and A Passion Play2 tour in 2016. For example, David Gilmour talked about touring the Division Bell and the huge audience that attended the Pink Floyd billed concerts sans Roger Waters. Not much later when billed as David Gilmour he must stick with the smaller halls and then ticket sales are not always that great. Unfortunately great ticket sales are tied to the famous band name for a lot of people. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 12:13:56 GMT
Just had a look and the Sage in Newcastle still has more than 200 seats left out of a total of around 1600. I remember there being lots of seats available on the TAAB2 concert in the City Hall there a few years back. I was lucky enough to see the same concert in Buenos Aires last year and the 3000+ concert was sold out well in advance. My view is that (despite what IA says about Tull and IA concerts being the same thing essentially) more people will attend a Jethro Tull concert. I would expect a Tull concert in say the City Hall to be much better attended. Other reasons for low attendances - hard times for many folk financially just now, IA's weak vocals (heard lots of folk comment on this after concerts). I also remember folk moaning about the TAAB2 concert about the fact he did not play any hits and there was no encore in the earlier concerts. I guess us hard Tull fans liked the chance to hear TAAB2 but many attendees just want to hear the songs they know. I am giving the concert a miss this time as I am just not keen on HE and I am working away in Europe. I just don't have the motivation to attend this time - must be getting too old to rock.. Or at least sing along in Latin.  Hello, Is there anybody in there Just nod if you can hear me...Can you stand up? |
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Post by JTull 007 on May 14, 2014 13:52:07 GMT
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Just ROCK!
...preffering to sit at home watching TV... 
.) Ahhh, nostalgia aint what it used to be.... 
. Anyone else? I know of one other 