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Post by nonrabbit on Nov 5, 2012 16:03:12 GMT
Lovely you can stick it in the post now and I'll share if I have too
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Post by Tull50 on Nov 5, 2012 16:12:32 GMT
This looks really good Thanks!
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 6, 2012 9:00:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 14:38:42 GMT
We ran the race and the race was won;; View Poll Results: Please rate Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (Steven Wilson 5.1 DTS/Dolby DVD) ...so it begins; Your hair is too short and neat. I'll judge you all and make damn sure that no-one judges me. Always an interesting (surround) view at QQ: www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?16826-Jethro-Tull-Thick-As-A-Brick-%28Steven-Wilson-5-1-DTS-Dolby-DVD%29&s=3a812d7ad71ff81fd2964b9a9df0de49+-------------------------------------------------------------+ Semi-Sweet Emotion! By Dave DiMartino | New This Week / music Canada On this historic night—Election Eve, 2012—I am compiling a list of this week's most compelling album releases and marveling at the history also on display! Read more: ca.music.yahoo.com/blogs/new-this-week/semi-sweet-emotion-095241319.htmlWhich is to say: Maybe half of these are by people who are really old or dead! Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick: 40th Anniversary Special Edition (CD/DVD) (EMI) One of the highlights of being a longtime music fan in 2012 is my ability to hear music that I was perhaps less than impressed with during its initial emergence and "rehear" it, now that all musical standards have enthusiastically leapt into the toilet! And so it is that I now wholeheartedly embrace legendary Brit album rockers Jethro Tull who—if I might be candid—I became less interested in after their 1968 debut This Was, perhaps unfairly, and thus never really gave a fair shake! I like them quite a bit now, and am even more enthused about their work with this release, which features the album's original mix, and a whole batch of new mixes, 5.1 and otherwise, by Porcupine Tree's Steven Wilson! The latter's extracurricular remix work on Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Caravan, and the King Crimson catalog is consistently remarkable and worthy of your hearing; not incidentally, by listening to at home, where most 5.1 stereo systems work best, you can avoid going out and maybe—who knows?--getting mugged by thugs who like to beat up old guys because "they're fun"!
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 6, 2012 18:34:59 GMT
After only one listen to the CD I can honestly say that the remix has certainly added a depth and clarity to the body of work which has given an intensity to the musicianship which may have been lacking on previous issues of the album according to your point of view. It is going to depend on what system(s) the listener uses to play the cd or dvd but the experience will be very rewarding. As an experiment, on my next few days off I'm going to go back to my original vinyl lp and progress up to this present edition via all the TAAB releases in between and hear how the techniques and advances in recording and mixing over the last 40 years has changed the overall sound of the album. Well I suppose someone has to do it
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 6, 2012 18:39:38 GMT
Published on 5 Nov 2012 by Darren Lock
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Post by hollowmoor on Nov 6, 2012 20:09:51 GMT
Hello all,
What are your thoughts on the new TAAB mixes? I'm sure Mr Wilson is keen to know what everyone makes of them
Post your reviews here!
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Post by jackinthegreen on Nov 6, 2012 23:21:41 GMT
I don't notice any difference listening to it on my PC, through the 2.1 system. I am looking forward to hearing it through my 5.1 system, tomorrow maybe, the Aqualung 5.1 mixes were brilliant.....
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 7, 2012 9:09:18 GMT
Hello all, What are your thoughts on the new TAAB mixes? I'm sure Mr Wilson is keen to know what everyone makes of them Post your reviews here! The DVD will have to sit on the back burner for a week or two but the CD is superb, at least on the equipment I've used to listen to it. It was always going to be a very hard act to follow but "well done" Mr Wilson.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 14:44:47 GMT
Music Review: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick [40th Anniversary CD/DVD Set] - Author: Greg Barbrick — Published: Nov 07, 2012 blogcritics.org/music/article/music-review-jethro-tull-thick-as1/Jethro Tull’s follow-up to their breakthrough Aqualung album was Thick as a Brick. The LP was as notable for its packaging as much as the music it contained. In fact, it was just about the most elaborate presentation of an album I have ever seen. When you slipped off the outer plastic wrap, the cover opened up into a full-sized, 12-page newspaper. The fictitious St. Cleve Chronicle was meant to replicate a small town newspaper. Somebody put a lot of work into this, as it had articles, advertisements, a TV guide, a births, deaths, and marriages page, a (hilarious) crossword puzzle, and even a record review of Thick as a Brick! To celebrate the 40th anniversary of the album, Chrysalis Records have quite literally doubled-down on the original release. The newly remixed edition is presented as a hardback book, containing a CD, and a 5.1 DTS audio DVD, plus a 100-page book with all the original newspaper material, plus new interviews, pictures, and all kinds of cool stuff. By the way, did I mention there is a record somewhere in all of this? I guess not. Well, the package is a little overwhelming, but Tull were at a real peak at that point, and turned in an excellent album. Or an excellent song. Both are correct, for the recording is comprised of the 43:40 title track. On the original LP, the song was split in two, due to the format of the vinyl album. But on CD, it is all one piece. It is really kind of the holy grail of progressive rock. Back in the day, the longest song on an album was always the best, but most bands stopped at a single LP-side long track. That was the case with Close to the Edge by Yes, just to name one example. Jethro Tull upped the ante, and went all the way. One song stretched out over two sides. Although it sounds like the ultimate prog noodle-fest, the album was not really what one might have expected. “Thick as a Brick” was one continuous tune, but it was broken up quite well, and never got boring. There were a number of different moods in the piece, and it definitely was not some pretentious wank. Mind you, I am a big fan of pretentious wanks such as Emerson, Lake, and Palmer’s Tarkus, or Hawkwind‘s Space Ritual, which I think gives me every right to joke about them too. In any event, Thick as a Brick does not fall into that category. In fact, in an interview conducted in March 2012 with Ian Anderson for this set, he totally shocked me with his explanation of the genesis of the album. He was very happy with the success of Aqualung, which had come out the year before. But he hated the fact that critics called it a “concept” album. He insists it was not. His quote says it all: “People thought that somehow we were guilty of making a concept album, so I thought ‘Okay, then we’ll give them the mother of all concept albums next time!’ So we did the completely over-the-top spoof concept album of Thick as a Brick.” The whole thing was a spoof, a put-on? I find that particular bit of information to be absolutely hilarious. Call it what you will but the band succeeded in creating a pretty great record. I had not listened to this recording in quite some time, and when I did, I could not believe how much better it was than I remembered it. For the longest time, I considered this to be Tull’s second best album, behind Aqualung. To be honest though, my opinion has changed. I now believe this to be their finest moment. As the principle songwriter, singer, and the most animated flautist in music, Ian Anderson has always been the leader of the group. In fact, a lot of people thought his name was Jethro Tull, and he just had some anonymous background musicians. This is actually the case today, as he mentions in that previously cited interview. But in 1972, Jethro Tull were a quintet who really clicked. Besides Anderson, the group included Martin Barre (guitar), John Evan (keyboards), Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond (bass), and Barriemore Barlow (drums). I have no idea what happened between Anderson and Barre, but Barre was probably the most unsung guitar hero of the early ‘70s. His powerhouse riffing was the engine behind “Aqualung,” “Cross-Eyed Mary,” and “Locomotive Breath.” On Thick as a Brick, he plays heavy rock at times, plus plenty of lighter, acoustic fare as well. In fact, one of his credits besides guitar on Brick is lute. How many rock lute players have you heard of out there? Special mention should be made of the remix, both the stereo CD, and the 5.1 DTS DVD. Credit Steve Wilson, of Porcupine Tree for this. The incredibly prolific musician is obviously such a fan of this album that he took time out from his busy schedule to remix Thick as a Brick. He did a fantastic job. As a musician who I imagine was intimately familiar with this recording, he knew exactly what he wanted. His remix never changes the basic album, but he adds some nuanced touches. I actually still have my original LP – who would get rid of such an item? – and decided to play it side by side with the CD. Wilson hits all the right spots, upping the piano and other instruments that were buried in the original mix, without ever overshadowing anything else. He did an excellent job. The 5.1 DTS DVD is even better, literally surrounding the listener with sound. I could not help but be reminded of what the record companies were desperately trying to promote in the early ‘70s, “Quadraphonic Sound.” There was a huge push for it for a while, but it never took off. In a way, the 5.1 DTS DVD fulfills this dream. It is a bit more involved than “Quad“ was, but the idea is pretty similar. It only took 40 years for the public to come around, I guess. The 40th anniversary Thick as a Brick package is marvelous, and credit goes to everyone involved. They even had the presence of mind to reproduce the original green Chrysalis label on the CD and DVD. It's a great reissue, all the way around.
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Post by tullpress on Nov 8, 2012 17:54:45 GMT
A question about the packaging, for those who have both versions:
is there any difference between the content of the colour pages in the CD booklet and the colour content of the 12 x 12 album-version book? Is it just exactly the same but in larger format, or is there additional content, different pics, etc.?
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 8, 2012 18:23:58 GMT
A question about the packaging, for those who have both versions: is there any difference between the content of the colour pages in the CD booklet and the colour content of the 12 x 12 album-version book? Is it just exactly the same but in larger format, or is there additional content, different pics, etc.? ta, A Not sure but I reckon it'll be the same. Having now read the cd version of the book(let) it certainly is one of the better ones on the market and should pull in a few casual punters if only for the uniqueness of the packaging. Some rather nice photographs/memorabilia and interesting and revealing interviews rounds off quite a special release and one that EMI should be congratulated on, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 18:40:02 GMT
Yes, cool book. Dig the size. Darn cute. Tell Ian, I got it cheap. haha NOT too cheeky.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Nov 8, 2012 21:21:24 GMT
The DVD 5.1 mixes are flawed on my copy... ..."Spin me back down the years" is the first flaw, it sounds like a piece of data missing, and then the band coming in at See There, a son is born...it jumps about again........there are volume issues too, the sound not constant at one level...... This happens on both the 5.1 mixes......... It's very dissapointing, does anyone have the same issues I would think the DVD disc will have to be re-called..... I got mine from Amazon UK if it makes any odds.......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 21:57:17 GMT
The DVD 5.1 mixes are flawed on my copy... ..."Spin me back down the years" is the first flaw, it sounds like a piece of data missing, and then the band coming in at See There, a son is born...it jumps about again........there are volume issues too, the sound not constant at one level...... This happens on both the 5.1 mixes......... It's very dissapointing, does anyone have the same issues I would think the DVD disc will have to be re-called..... I got mine from Amazon UK if it makes any odds....... 5.1 DD & DTS ONLY 3 glitches noted at the beginning of side one. First two drop outs are strangely enough on the first two uses of the word down. Then something strange (drop out?) at the 3:03 mark. Noted at two other forums: Some harsh words here: www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=267638&page=10At QQ there's a fix for the first two. If you are up to it. Centre channel missing info. www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?16826-Jethro-Tull-Thick-As-A-Brick-%28Steven-Wilson-5-1-DTS-Dolby-DVD%29
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Post by snaffler on Nov 9, 2012 12:24:47 GMT
The DVD 5.1 mixes are flawed on my copy... ..."Spin me back down the years" is the first flaw, it sounds like a piece of data missing, and then the band coming in at See There, a son is born...it jumps about again........there are volume issues too, the sound not constant at one level...... This happens on both the 5.1 mixes......... It's very dissapointing, does anyone have the same issues I would think the DVD disc will have to be re-called..... I got mine from Amazon UK if it makes any odds....... 5.1 DD & DTS ONLY 3 glitches noted at the beginning of side one. First two drop outs are strangely enough on the first two uses of the word down. Then something strange (drop out?) at the 3:03 mark. Noted at two other forums: Some harsh words here: www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=267638&page=10At QQ there's a fix for the first two. If you are up to it. Centre channel missing info. www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?16826-Jethro-Tull-Thick-As-A-Brick-%28Steven-Wilson-5-1-DTS-Dolby-DVD%29same with mine so ive sent it back to play.com and will be getting a refund.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 13:51:33 GMT
Progressive rock, Reissue, Rock Music, Uncategorized — November 9, 2012 Jethro Tull – Thick As A Brick: 40th Anniversary Set (1972; 2012 reissue) by Nick DeRiso somethingelsereviews.com/2012/11/09/jethro-tull-thick-as-a-brick-40th-anniversary-set-1972-2012-reissue/Years before the chattering rock press had begun to puncture the facade of prog rock — all under the cover of digging the “authenticity” of punk — Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull were ready to call bull$h1t on it all. Having felt their breakthrough 1971 album Aqualung had been unfairly categorized as a concept album, and chafing too at the idea that Tull was a progressive rock act at all, Anderson set about writing a pomposity-popping caricature of every over-stuffed, time-shifting set-piece album of the time. From its cheeky, often unintelligible themes (said to be an eight-year-old prodigy’s poetry-competition scribblings), to its packaging (a mock newspaper with dry, Monty Python-esque stories like “Sand-Castle Man Calls It a Day” and “Mongrel Dog Soils Actor’s Foot”), to its very construction (as one continuous, sometimes seemingly free-form track, with only the only original break arriving as you flipped over the old vinyl LP), Thick As A Brick was meant, it seemed, to incite as much hilarity as it did ruminations on where the whole genre was headed. Instead, the damn thing went to No. 1 in America. Turns out, even when Jethro Tull was trying to make fun of those extended noodling passages, they couldn’t help but add their own smart flourishes — stirring in not just the expected classical influences, but also jazz and (in what had become Tull’s calling card) no small amount of snarky folk. If anything, the band plays with more touch and finesse, but also more power, than it did even on the celebrated Aqualung. Credit goes, on first blush, to new drummer Barrie Barlow, a lighter touch who had replaced the hard-driving Clive Bunker after Jethro Tull’s initial four albums. But the attention to detail, willingness to follow rhythmic cross patterns, and general musical camaraderie is undeniable across the entire ensemble — something that’s underlined by the necessary form that these sessions took back then. Guitarist Martin Barre, bassist Jeffrey Hammond, keyboardist John Evan, Barlow and Anderson did much of the basic tracking for Thick As A Brick (and even some of the vocals and solos) in single takes, since stopping would require the group to go back to the very beginning of the lengthy piece. That gives the album this present, fizzy energy that’s often missing among typically layered, overdubbed prog efforts. In this way, Thick As A Brick, with its earthy, effects-free sensibility, sounds like little else from its own era. Too, that tabloid-inspired sleeve couldn’t have been more different than the magical fantasy worlds that often graced their contemporaries’ albums. Audiences may not have gotten all of the jokes, but they loved trying to sort out its many clues, anyway. Jethro Tull, and this may be the funniest part of all, ended up making one of the most distinctive prog albums ever — even as it tried to spoof the very idea.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Nov 9, 2012 20:20:13 GMT
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Post by jackinthegreen on Nov 9, 2012 20:28:08 GMT
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Post by broadsword on Nov 9, 2012 21:03:27 GMT
No JackInTheGreen, you are not the only whingeing old git, I suspect this Forum is full of them. In view of the fact that there's this bug/glitch/missing bit, I'll make do with the version I already have. It still sucks that this has happened. I mean, did nobody listen to it before it went on sale?
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 10, 2012 13:51:03 GMT
No, there's another one here. The cd is fine, at least to my ears, and I hope that there will be some kind of replacement deal for the dvd such as the one PDO discs had going with the bronzed/rusty cds of a few years back. However, with all the turmoil surrounding emi and takeovers etc, I would expect the issue to go to the bottom of any production executive's list. In the days of record shops you could take back faulty discs, both vinyl and cd, and get a replacement from them. Oh bring back the "ever so 'umble" record shop.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 15:18:11 GMT
Scattered...shattered ;D www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=8228113&postcount=193Not a fan of Peter Mew's work. I'm fed up with Tull sounding too bright for my taste. Like Steven Wilson said about Aqualung, "Peter Mew seems to have added some extra brightness, around the 10-12K area - I can't say I prefer it that way, but again it's a taste thing." This time with TAAB the cymbals are destroyed in parts of the 5.1 mix. Ignoring the glitches. The 5.1 mix is a treat at lower levels. For me, less bright and it would be a perfect 5.1 experience. Subtle surround when it needs to be. Listening at a reasonable level it will do, cranked then I have a real problem with the top end. Say minor, I say major...missing the final yeah-The stereo versions are within reason. Stereo gets a pass, just. The final "Yeah" is missing from the 25th anniversary edition too. You can hear the "Yeah" on the MFSL CD. The swishy-ness is fine on the DCC (side one) & MFSL CD versions, after these no further brightness is required/needed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 15:12:12 GMT
Trying to stitch this together; lol Thanks to the great Plan9 www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=8236543&postcount=315Something to appease somewhat the people who are understandably upset with how this reissue turned out:
I had a talk with Steven Wilson and he can confirm that the glitches are NOT on his mixes and that the painful cymbals and the general extreme brightness are a by-product of the mastering.
He will try to get EMI to re-press the DVD, which, as you can understand, is a bit of a logistical nightmare.
Stay tuned.============================== See LP "the spine seems to infer that TAAB2 is a Tull release, not an Ian Anderson one..." www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=8234107&postcount=292www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=8234169&postcount=295Not only me''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''DVD/CD IMO: Bright mastering of a great surround mix, 5.1 where at times the sound of psychedelic lives. The glitches are mostly centre channel problems. NOTHING TO DO with Steven Wilson, for sure. I'm hearing things I've never heard before, for sure. I've nothing negative to say about the flat transfer of the original mix, except for the clipped ending, yeah. I'm happy enough with the stereo versions. Less bright would be my choice on the remixed stereo. & Yeah, I guess it's OK if it's missing from a remix. However, that final "yeah" should not be missing from the original stereo flat transfer. That's wrong! Another trustworthy poster: peteham www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=8234160&postcount=294 cheers! maybe
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 22:03:21 GMT
From Jethro Tull's Facebook
STOP PRESS: AUDIO GLITICHES ON TAAB 40th Special Edition DVD
We have been alerted to the fact that there are three small audio glitches on the 5.1 streams on the DVD part of the Thick As A Brick Special Edition CD/DVD set. We are working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible. Any new stock going into stores will be amended & for fans who’ve already purchased the set we will be making available a replacement DVD disc for you. More information to follow shortly. This occurred in the very final stage of mastering prior to manufacture of the commercial run of product and was not noticed until attentive early purchasers spotted the digital errors. With our apologies.
EMI Music, Ian Anderson and Steven Wilson.
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