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Post by macandjenny on Oct 14, 2012 23:40:00 GMT
Hi All, I'm David. I am enjoying reading through thr forum greatly. Thank you. I was at Blackpool Grammar school at the same time as Ian, Jeffrey and John in the 60's. I was in the year below them. I watched them as The Blades a couple of times or so in 1964 and early 65 when they first started. I then suggested them to my local tennis club who were wanting to raise money. So, we hired them for a St Valentines Eve dance at a local church on April 13th, 1965. I kept a ticket from that dance. From my memory, the 2,3 or 4 earlier gigs they did were also at churches but there, the tickets were just cloackroom/raffle style stubs with no writing....just a number. We printed ours......hence this is quite likely to be the oldest ever printed ticket and almost certainly the only surviving one of the 150 or so printed for the dance. I'm considering selling it. Do any of you have any thoughts please on its value and how best I might advertise it? Hopefully, I have attached a pdf of the ticket. Out of interest. I also went to our end of year school dance on 20th December 1965 (gulp!-47 years ago!) and saw them. That was the year they left I think ( I had one year to go). It has been mentioned elswhere but Ian wore a one-piece bright red jumpsuit that night. It was the first time I'd seen him on sax ( as well as guitar and mouth organ). I can't remember but it likely that John had already changed from drums to organ by then (true anyone?) Anyway, all the best to all David Attachments:
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Post by steelmonkey on Oct 15, 2012 0:16:36 GMT
What a great artifact .....thanks for taking the time to locate the online community that would appreciate this cool thing!
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 15, 2012 8:21:20 GMT
Hi All, I'm David. I am enjoying reading through thr forum greatly. Thank you. I was at Blackpool Grammar school at the same time as Ian, Jeffrey and John in the 60's. I was in the year below them. I watched them as The Blades a couple of times or so in 1964 and early 65 when they first started. I then suggested them to my local tennis club who were wanting to raise money. So, we hired them for a St Valentines Eve dance at a local church on April 13th, 1965. I kept a ticket from that dance. From my memory, the 2,3 or 4 earlier gigs they did were also at churches but there, the tickets were just cloackroom/raffle style stubs with no writing....just a number. We printed ours......hence this is quite likely to be the oldest ever printed ticket and almost certainly the only surviving one of the 150 or so printed for the dance. I'm considering selling it. Do any of you have any thoughts please on its value and how best I might advertise it? Hopefully, I have attached a pdf of the ticket. Out of interest. I also went to our end of year school dance on 20th December 1965 (gulp!-47 years ago!) and saw them. That was the year they left I think ( I had one year to go). It has been mentioned elswhere but Ian wore a one-piece bright red jumpsuit that night. It was the first time I'd seen him on sax ( as well as guitar and mouth organ). I can't remember but it likely that John had already changed from drums to organ by then (true anyone?) Anyway, all the best to all David David Welcome to The Jethro Tull Forum That certainly must be the earliest ticket relating to Jethro tull still in existance. Thanks also for your reminiscences about The Blades and also the information that you were at the same school as Ian Anderson and co. I've no doubt that Forum members would be extremely interested in any further information about that time. As for the value of the ticket, it is priceless but I doubt very much that you would get a worthwhile selling price for it, even on ebay. If it was in my possession I'd be keeping it for the grandchildren! I think John Evans switched to the keyboards when Barrie Barlow joined the Blades for the first time but I can't remember what date that was. Cheers Maddog/Graham
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 15, 2012 9:00:47 GMT
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Post by macandjenny on Oct 15, 2012 12:00:34 GMT
Hi "nonrabbit"and all,
I am enjoying this. This will however be brief but I'll do better v soon......been out and now late but wanted to respond in part to your post. Yes.....I am in that school photo. For the record, second from top row and 31st from the left. I'll do better re Ian, John etc in the photo when I surface tomorrow. I was a contributor to that Meloria site a few years ago and do have here at home the equivalent whole school photo from 1964 and/or 65, and I think I could find at least John on it. I'll do that tomorrow. However from a very brief scan of the one you sent, I think that if you go straight up from the Headmaster's head ( Mr Brooks) to the third row from the top and then pan 7 people to the right,,,,,,that is John Evans. I did not say before but I live in Sydney ( have done since 1974) so it is now a bit late so will write tomorrow. One vague memory I have, again does anyone know for fact?, is that at school I thought that the group had a mentor/guide for a year or so. He was an exceedingly conservatively dressed, very conventional/straight/staid looking teacher ( Geography?) called Mr Jones I think. Have any of the group ever said that ( or did I make it up all those years ago?). To answer the other question.....I think the Bispham Tennis Club is no more. I went to Blackpool 2 weeks ago to celebrate my dad's 90th birthday. I puposefully drove past the site. The courts (grass) still exist as does the adjascent bowling green but alas, it seems now just to be Council public courts with no active club. It made me nostalgic and sad. Must go for now.... Till soon.... David
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 15, 2012 12:38:00 GMT
Many thanks for that David. Look forward to more on that picture and what you think of our "summing up"of Ian's life in Blackpool in the other thread. There's some pics to of the Imperial Hotel there too. Cheers Patti
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Post by bunkerfan on Oct 15, 2012 18:49:14 GMT
Hi All, I'm David. I am enjoying reading through thr forum greatly. Thank you. I was at Blackpool Grammar school at the same time as Ian, Jeffrey and John in the 60's. I was in the year below them. I watched them as The Blades a couple of times or so in 1964 and early 65 when they first started. I then suggested them to my local tennis club who were wanting to raise money. So, we hired them for a St Valentines Eve dance at a local church on April 13th, 1965. I kept a ticket from that dance. From my memory, the 2,3 or 4 earlier gigs they did were also at churches but there, the tickets were just cloackroom/raffle style stubs with no writing....just a number. We printed ours......hence this is quite likely to be the oldest ever printed ticket and almost certainly the only surviving one of the 150 or so printed for the dance. I'm considering selling it. Do any of you have any thoughts please on its value and how best I might advertise it? Hopefully, I have attached a pdf of the ticket. Out of interest. I also went to our end of year school dance on 20th December 1965 (gulp!-47 years ago!) and saw them. That was the year they left I think ( I had one year to go). It has been mentioned elswhere but Ian wore a one-piece bright red jumpsuit that night. It was the first time I'd seen him on sax ( as well as guitar and mouth organ). I can't remember but it likely that John had already changed from drums to organ by then (true anyone?) Anyway, all the best to all David Your ticket is a gem, what a great bit of Tull history. And of course Ian's still playing in Churches. Welcome to The Jethro Tull forum David. bunkerfan
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Post by macandjenny on Oct 15, 2012 23:15:49 GMT
Oops,
Too many red wines last night. Correction: I'm almost certain John is 5th row from front, 7th from the right. Struggling with Ian....will work on it. David
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 16, 2012 7:40:36 GMT
Oops, Too many red wines last night. Correction: I'm almost certain John is 5th row from front, 7th from the right. Struggling with Ian....will work on it. David The Blackpool Triptych ?
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 16, 2012 7:49:58 GMT
;D ;D can you ever have too many red wines Yes I can see the resemblance to John there. It's such a great classic picture of an all boys grammer school of the 60's teachers in gowns etc!
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Post by macandjenny on Oct 16, 2012 11:37:15 GMT
Hi Patti, You are spot on re the Grammar school. If you look at the photo of the school we were examining, you will see boys/pupils on the 3rd row from the bottom ( about 10 each side of the headmaster) who are full prefects. They are wearing quite bright blue, full length, 'masters' gowns. These were the real deal, donated by an anonymous ex pupil. Many teachers were a bit miffed as these gowns were much higher quality than their own!! If one now looks at www.meliora.co.uk/66_bws1.htm which is the equivalent 1966 photo ( part one of six) then three rows up from bottom, third from the right is me having been elevated and "gowned" as one of these prefects. It was quite pretentious I feel. We prefects had power and autonomy way, way beyond our limited wisdom. We could order other pupils about, hold detentions after school etc etc. Needless to say, I was not a great prefect....even then I sort of knew it was wrong....the school was trying to elevate itself and emulate a public (in England)/private(in Australia) school. Anyway...I am now 95-99% convinced that that is indeed John in the photo.....am I correct? While I remember......about 8-10 years ago I wrote an email to Ian ( via a JT internet site about band members. I had remembered another Grammar School boy who I saw playing with Ian, John and Jeffrey ( still The Blades then) at another Church dance in mid 64 or very early 65.....maybe two dances but no more. He played mouth organ and was called Harry Hartley ( Hartly?). I asked Ian why he wasn't mentioned in despatches as a previous band member. Ian wrote back. Apparently, (and all of you are probably well aware of this), there were a few players who did "pop in and out" in those days and/but were, quite reasonably now I reflect, never considered as having been band members. Talking of band members, not being a follower of JT for x years, I've only recently seen that Tony Williams was a band member for a period. I used to watch him also in Blackpool. When I did it must have also been 64-65 and I clearly remember seeing him as a solo act. He was sooooo good. He mesmerised us ( pub audiences). Anyway....seem to have drifted off topic......time I went obviously.... Byeee for now David
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 16, 2012 19:20:44 GMT
Hi David Yes I think it's most likely to be John. Love those prefect uniforms - you can feel the power and authority oozing from the picture !! ;D I went to an all girls grammer school in Scotland ..overseen and overrun by nuns - terrifying!! Tony Williams - I don't know too much about him and his time with Ian and the boys. I'm sure someone else will jump in with that. It's great to have you on the Forum - so don't rush away too far Cheers Patti Ps Just had a thought -do you think the school and it's ways would have had any influence on the young Ian and in some of his songs relating to authority?
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Post by macandjenny on Oct 16, 2012 22:55:38 GMT
Hi Patti,
You seem to be able to blow up photos....I'm struggling. If you go to the school photo, count 13 and 14 teachers to the left of the Headmaster, then 2 rows up.....between teachers 13 & 14. Ian?? This part of this row was 1 yr above me and maybe tis he??!! David
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 17, 2012 8:06:43 GMT
Hi Patti, You seem to be able to blow up photos....I'm struggling. If you go to the school photo, count 13 and 14 teachers to the left of the Headmaster, then 2 rows up.....between teachers 13 & 14. Ian?? This part of this row was 1 yr above me and maybe tis he??!! David That's Maddog that has that skill - I will ask him to do the identifying Think that your suggestion is the one we thought as well.
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 17, 2012 8:44:01 GMT
Hi Patti, You seem to be able to blow up photos....I'm struggling. If you go to the school photo, count 13 and 14 teachers to the left of the Headmaster, then 2 rows up.....between teachers 13 & 14. Ian?? This part of this row was 1 yr above me and maybe tis he??!! David David Being one of those panoramic school photos I think the best thing would be to split the image into 4 or 5 sections which would make the faces a bit more indentifiable, if you get my drift. I'll have a go sometime today or tommorow and see what happens. Graham
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Post by maddogfagin on Oct 17, 2012 9:51:47 GMT
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