tullist
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Post by tullist on Feb 21, 2012 5:40:44 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 21, 2012 8:46:24 GMT
Hear hear!! Great pics as well
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 21, 2012 9:15:56 GMT
Thanks for posting Ray. As gammagoblin commented "A considerable change before and after Underwraps"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 15:06:11 GMT
Ian Anderson admitted that he had a problem with his voice after Under Wraps. It was singing the material for that album when his voice suffered. To say today that there is no concern over the singing is confusing and turns me off concerning future tours. Let's be honest, eh.
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Post by tullist on Feb 21, 2012 17:23:41 GMT
Ian Anderson admitted that he had a problem with his voice after Under Wraps. It was singing the material for that album when his voice suffered. To say today that there is no concern over the singing is confusing and turns me off concerning future tours. Let's be honest, eh. He has said many things since that point, 28 years ago. The most telling, which I have offered in various forums for many years, my apologies to those who have read me illucidate this point, was a development in, I recall, the late nineties, a point from which, I believe, Tull world has been deaf to the improvements in his singing in these past 15 years or so, after understanding his limitations. In large part what this element of the fan base does not like is that he does not sound like 1973. Anyway, the facts I read in David Rees' rag about a visit to one doctor, who came by what seems to me the dead practical final word on this issue. That the muscles in ones throat that one uses to sing in an occasionally very loud rock band, run perfectly counter to those used to play the flute, and likely all the moreso in the often aggressive fashion Anderson does it. And just about precisely from this point I could see a different attack from Ian vocally that certainly brought an improvement from the late 80's and early 90's state of his voice, when I believe it reached it nadir. Even then it was never a front to back disgrace, often the softer stuff sounded as good or better than ever. I will always allow that it is probably a shock of sorts to someone sent to review a show who has heard nothing current of them in 35 years, or people returning for a nostalgia trip after being away since the 70's may be in for a surprise. But I will never buy that it was the material from UW being particularly harder to sing than any other, it was merely the time of life when this occured. And I believe this video shows what I have long held, that there is much about his current voice, particularly for those of us who have aged with him, that is very much the superior of his youth. I believe the dividing line that allows people to hear this nuance can be nearly defined by those Tull fans who like Rush, and those who don't.Gets more involved than that and of course being a Rush fan does not preclude your liking his voice, but if such a delineation could be made, I believe you would get an accurate reading.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 19:00:51 GMT
By 1993 Ian Anderson mentions that he had/has a problem with his larynx. Ian's voice has been fine on studio albums, different, but fine. In the early 1990's a guy/stranger sitting beside me at Massey Hall was really put off by the voice, commenting and asking me about it. Anderson was really reaching for his voice that night. If I attend a Tull/Anderson concert these days it will be because of the music. The stretching for the voice is still going on live and cannot be ignored. I'll gladly accept age as a factor/reason now. Just hit us with the truth.
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 25, 2012 16:42:55 GMT
There is no doubt about the before/after moment in 1984 when the old voice went bye bye for ever and was replaced by an ongoing series of compromises, with a steady trend of improvement but intemittent awful moments or even whole tours. And for Tull fans, hard-core or casual, it's just plain 'take it or leave it' like a woman you still love who doesn't look like the day you met her or a man you love who is not as virile at 54 as at 27. Ian has compensated rermarkably...his flute playing gets better and getter and better...his song writing remains peerless and his willingness to tour matched by only Dylan, it seems.
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