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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 18, 2016 11:48:02 GMT
Not sure what that means but I will take it as a compliment... Please do!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 20:59:30 GMT
Really? Probably Steven was joking or not conscious that This Was was recorded onto 4 tracks... This Was ?? Don't you guys get tired of this old stuff... Songs From the Wood then Heavy Horses. Get with the program...Mr. Wilson...This Was very funny...very old.
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Post by argentull on Sept 18, 2016 21:45:17 GMT
This Was in 5.1 with only 4 tracks? hmmmm I think SW was joking or talking superfluously
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 15:49:48 GMT
linkThis Was - Oh, it is definitely feasible to mix a 4 tracks recording in "true" 5.1. It's just that the mix won't be as solid or beautiful as a 8+ tracks one. And depending on the tracks, the gain could not be as interesting. - Plan9 CHEERS! & All give thanks to Plan9. He has helped Steven Wilson with these sets. 5.1 gods.
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Post by JTull 007 on Sept 20, 2016 1:19:54 GMT
linkThis Was - Oh, it is definitely feasible to mix a 4 tracks recording in "true" 5.1. It's just that the mix won't be as solid or beautiful as a 8+ tracks one. And depending on the tracks, the gain could not be as interesting. - Plan9 CHEERS! & All give thanks to Plan9. He has helped Steven Wilson with these sets. 5.1 gods. Well done Plan 9 !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 12:27:25 GMT
Perfect! Aliens, zombies, looming nuclear annihilation...
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 29, 2016 8:47:10 GMT
demonszone.com/albums/jethro-tull/this-was/?This WasPosted on 27 September 2016 by Steven Lornie As a fairly new JETHRO TULL fan, I have the weird experience of taking on their back catalogue backwards. I have literally just completed my album collection with their debut album, THIS WAS. This was (ha, get it?!) an album that I was looking forward to simply due to knowing that the album contains an interesting change of style for the band. An interesting change of style is putting it mildly I think. THIS WAS is a completely different monster to what eventually became the prog rock heavy weights of the ’70s. The influence of one MICK ABRAHAMS means that this is not just a bit of folk rock, but it contains a heavy blues influence that rains all over this album. The sound isn’t bad, it has a lot of energy and power behind it. The band really sound tight but it is too similar to what a lot of other bands were doing at the time. With that said, if you’re looking for a good slab of blues rock you have it here. There are also some nice jazz moments on the album that let the flute and rhythm section shine, and they do just that. Musically speaking the band play their hearts out and even though the song writing is far from stellar (something that would change over time), it still remains as a fun enjoyable album. Now if you want to pick this album up, you have a lot of choices (via the links below). I personally recommend picking up the double disc 40th anniversary edition. This not only comes with the mono album remastered, but a very well done stereo mix as well as b-sides and some live performances. It is a fantastic collection and without a doubt a must have for fans of JETHRO TULL. Where to buy "This Was" : FORMAT: DESCRIPTION: RECORD LABEL: SELLER: CD Double Disc Collector's Edition Chrysalis Records Amazon UK Buy NowMP3 Double Disc Collector's Edition Parlophone Records Amazon UK Buy NowCD Single Disc 2001 Chrysalis Records Amazon UK Buy NowMP3 Single Disc 2001 Chrysalis Records Amazon UK Buy NowVinyl 2014 re-issue PLG UK Frontline Amazon UK Buy NowTrack Listing : My Sunday Feeling Some Day The Sun Won't Shine For You Beggar's Farm Move On Alone Serenade To A Cuckoo Dharma For One It's Breaking Me Up Cat's Squirrel A Song For Jeffrey Round
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 1, 2017 8:34:39 GMT
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Post by futureshock on Mar 20, 2017 4:49:22 GMT
I too heard This Was long after I had listened to many other Tull albums, probably up to 1980 or so, when I bought This Was. Quite an amazing change, but I thought the record was very good for a totally new band. The band plays great and the studio gives it good treatment. A fun album with catchy songs, but where Stand Up comes from isn't really hinted at yet. Music was evolving extremely fast back then. As you mention, other bands en mass had found certain approaches that were repeated plus nauseum, so it only served the Tullies well to get punchy with their unique approach.
An interesting thing happens when you listen to Stand Up and listen for hints of the band that created This Was, and it's there in stylistic episodes that show through, but clearly something different is going on, and This Was isn't coming back. But what a difference. The studio expertise applied is far more extensive. The electric guitar has clearly been assigned an aggressive AND creative role, and thereby avoiding the stagnant fate of a million other bands that get caught up in having a loud distorted guitar and lose the creativity. The acoustic guitar shows up. The flute is given some front and centre carefully composed music rather than just the occasional riffs and basic fills that you would expect back then out of any band. And the rest of the band fills as if from a jazz band, which was the early stage of "progressive", meaning the band was not interested in being locked into 4/4-time or 3-chord pop or standard progressions from established pop formula. It keeps leading to the question "who are these guys and is this the real deal musically or a studio one-off?" Of course by then the concert reviews were building up, the reputation of the band building and the next couple albums proved that further exploration of the progressive music was going to go on, and an eclectic mix of things should not be a surprise as an album or within a single song.
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Post by dominic on Jun 19, 2017 16:24:25 GMT
Hi - doing a bit of research on this was & am interested to know - the photo of the band onstage in the inside gatefold - was this taken at the Sunbury Jazz & Blues Festival in August 68 - the album wasn't released til the October & it was probably their biggest gig at this point so it would make sense - the back drop has the look of a festival - can't find any info on this anywhere - I know this probably makes me a very sad person/nerd but it's driving me nuts !........
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 19, 2017 16:55:25 GMT
Hi - doing a bit of research on this was & am interested to know - the photo of the band onstage in the inside gatefold - was this taken at the Sunbury Jazz & Blues Festival in August 68 - the album wasn't released til the October & it was probably their biggest gig at this point so it would make sense - the back drop has the look of a festival - can't find any info on this anywhere - I know this probably makes me a very sad person/nerd but it's driving me nuts !........ Yes, from the Sunbury Jazz and Blues Festival. A rather fine write up of the album at Cup Of Wonder www.cupofwonder.com/thiswas.html
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Post by dominic on Jun 19, 2017 17:32:01 GMT
thank you for the quick reply - love the album - if anyone on the forum actually went to the sunbury jazz festival in 1968 would be interested to hear memories of the event either tull &/or any other bands on the bill - also, any reviews or memories people have of seeing the 1st line up at any venue
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 20, 2017 7:51:07 GMT
thank you for the quick reply - love the album - if anyone on the forum actually went to the sunbury jazz festival in 1968 would be interested to hear memories of the event either tull &/or any other bands on the bill - also, any reviews or memories people have of seeing the 1st line up at any venue What many don't really appreciate about Tull in early '68 is that the reason audiences went to see them was not because of IA's performance but more to do with the near legendary guitar playing of Mick Abrahams, a reputation he had built up in a very short space of time. When we saw Tull at the Star Hotel in Croydon in the early part of '68, we went because he'd already been "name checked" as being up there with the best of the new breed of British guitar players alongside Eric Clapton and Peter Green, for example, and as we'd seen those two in concert around the same time, and at the '67 Sunbury Festival, this was the reason we went. So I will always blame Mick for my admiration of all things Tull
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 20, 2017 14:44:46 GMT
thank you for the quick reply - love the album - if anyone on the forum actually went to the sunbury jazz festival in 1968 would be interested to hear memories of the event either tull &/or any other bands on the bill - also, any reviews or memories people have of seeing the 1st line up at any venue What many don't really appreciate about Tull in early '68 is that the reason audiences went to see them was not because of IA's performance but more to do with the near legendary guitar playing of Mick Abrahams, a reputation he had built up in a very short space of time. When we saw Tull at the Star Hotel in Croydon in the early part of '68, we went because he'd already been "name checked" as being up there with the best of the new breed of British guitar players alongside Eric Clapton and Peter Green, for example, and as we'd seen those two in concert around the same time, and at the '67 Sunbury Festival, this was the reason we went. So I will always blame Mick for my admiration of all things Tull Incredible experiences are sometimes taken for granted when they happen. If anyone could have been there in 1968 like Graham, they might have had other reasons for going too. I am in awe of anyone who has been to the first TULL gigs... WOW !!!
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 20, 2017 14:56:31 GMT
What many don't really appreciate about Tull in early '68 is that the reason audiences went to see them was not because of IA's performance but more to do with the near legendary guitar playing of Mick Abrahams, a reputation he had built up in a very short space of time. When we saw Tull at the Star Hotel in Croydon in the early part of '68, we went because he'd already been "name checked" as being up there with the best of the new breed of British guitar players alongside Eric Clapton and Peter Green, for example, and as we'd seen those two in concert around the same time, and at the '67 Sunbury Festival, this was the reason we went. So I will always blame Mick for my admiration of all things Tull Incredible experiences are sometimes taken for granted when they happen. If anyone could have been there in 1968 like Graham, they might have had other reasons for going too. I am in awe of anyone who has been to the first TULL gigs... WOW !!! The main thing about this, and I expect it's the same wherever music is performed in small clubs and concert halls, is that the venue builds a clientele who regularly go the events held at the aforementioned venue - if the artists are good the venue organisers prosper. The Star was certainly one such venue and, until it went down hill a few years later when a new landlord took over the premises, would regularly have top names including the original Fleetwood Mac, Ten Years After, The Jimi Hendrix Experience et al. And of course the same can be said of many great venues up and down the land both here in the UK and in the USA and Europe.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 21, 2017 7:30:51 GMT
Hi - doing a bit of research on this was & am interested to know - the photo of the band onstage in the inside gatefold - was this taken at the Sunbury Jazz & Blues Festival in August 68 - the album wasn't released til the October & it was probably their biggest gig at this point so it would make sense - the back drop has the look of a festival - can't find any info on this anywhere - I know this probably makes me a very sad person/nerd but it's driving me nuts !........ Yes, from the Sunbury Jazz and Blues Festival. A rather fine write up of the album at Cup Of Wonder www.cupofwonder.com/thiswas.html
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 8, 2017 7:52:10 GMT
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Post by argentull on Aug 26, 2017 12:13:10 GMT
Steven Wilson interview:
"I’m continuing with the Jethro Tull back catalog as time allows. That’s been a very well-received series and a lot of fun to work on because I’m so motivated and supportive of the project. I think the next one will be Heavy Horses and we’ll eventually do the first album at some point."
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 26, 2017 13:40:34 GMT
Steven Wilson interview: "I’m continuing with the Jethro Tull back catalog as time allows. That’s been a very well-received series and a lot of fun to work on because I’m so motivated and supportive of the project. I think the next one will be Heavy Horses and we’ll eventually do the first album at some point." This Was has been done to death with the 2008 Collector's Edition being the last word as it had the mono mix, the stereo mix, radio sessions and extras such as Sunshine Day etc. Unless it had had some previously unreleased outtakes I for one would pass any further release by, unfortunately. Now if it had the Candy Coloured Rain recordings from Abbey Road that would make it interesting.
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Post by steelmonkey on Aug 26, 2017 16:54:28 GMT
Yeah, I'd rather see SW continue on to Stormwatch and beyond. We got a lot of Broadsword era extras on the 20 year box and Nightcap....But I bet there are 'A' lineup and Walk into Light/Under Wraps era extras that would be interesting and great.
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Post by steelmonkey on Aug 26, 2017 16:55:33 GMT
And BTW, I have finally gotten tired of 'Old Aces'.
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 29, 2017 8:50:05 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 3, 2017 9:07:59 GMT
Just off to play This Was in all its glory, mono of course
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Post by maddogfagin on Dec 11, 2017 9:05:13 GMT
Late 1969 mono issue of This Was on the large " i" Island label design
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 12, 2018 14:48:15 GMT
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Post by argentull on Jan 31, 2018 0:15:43 GMT
From AND#129 There are a number of 50th Anniversary ideas which Warners have been discussing with Ian Anderson, but nothing has yet been decided-but rest assured that the momentous milestone will be properly aknoledged. One project that does appera to have legs is a 50th anniversary re-release of This Was, hopefully remixed by Steven Wilson, which may well include some previously 1968 unreleased 1968 outakes- but psst, don´t tell anyone yet, OK? Word is that SW will continue with his remixes for a while yet- but that´s for 2019 onwards.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 31, 2018 8:35:20 GMT
From AND#129 There are a number of 50th Anniversary ideas which Warners have been discussing with Ian Anderson, but nothing has yet been decided-but rest assured that the momentous milestone will be properly aknoledged. One project that does appera to have legs is a 50th anniversary re-release of This Was, hopefully remixed by Steven Wilson, which may well include some previously 1968 unreleased 1968 outakes- but psst, don´t tell anyone yet, OK? Word is that SW will continue with his remixes for a while yet- but that´s for 2019 onwards. Hopefully any outakes will include some live concert recordings with Mick Abrahams as this is part of the Tull history not very well archived except for the written word and the BBC Radio recordings, both official and on bootleg. Oh and I won't tell anyone OK ?
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Post by argentull on Jan 31, 2018 15:32:04 GMT
From AND#129 There are a number of 50th Anniversary ideas which Warners have been discussing with Ian Anderson, but nothing has yet been decided-but rest assured that the momentous milestone will be properly aknoledged. One project that does appera to have legs is a 50th anniversary re-release of This Was, hopefully remixed by Steven Wilson, which may well include some previously 1968 unreleased 1968 outakes- but psst, don´t tell anyone yet, OK? Word is that SW will continue with his remixes for a while yet- but that´s for 2019 onwards. Hopefully any outakes will include some live concert recordings with Mick Abrahams as this is part of the Tull history not very well archived except for the written word and the BBC Radio recordings, both official and on bootleg. Oh and I won't tell anyone OK ? As much as I would love some live tracks from the Abrams line-up. I really doubt anything exists apart from the BBC sessions. Even the Ministry of information does´t list any audience recording of this short-lived incarnation of the band. Let´s hope at least for some studio outakes.
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Post by argentull on Jan 31, 2018 23:38:52 GMT
What is this NEW mix? A leaked mix of the forthcoming re-release?
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 1, 2018 8:59:27 GMT
What is this NEW mix? A leaked mix of the forthcoming re-release? It's the stereo mix from the 2008 Collector's edition timed at 6'05" with the mono mix timed at 3'37". I just love MA's jazz guitar playing on this mix - nice
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