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Post by 1971roadrunner on Nov 13, 2015 13:55:08 GMT
I was born in 76 and have been a fan since I was about 5, I was a little scared of Ian, I saw him on MTV and being scared of him fascinated me. My love has grown ever since and now my 4 year old adores Tull as much as I do. Songs fron the Wood is an excellent album, I guess people werent that receptive toward it when it came out but on that album, each song is better than the next! The 4 year old runs around the house singing Jack in the Green....eh its just my opinion if it matters, but this album completely rocks! Dont they all!
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 13, 2015 14:37:39 GMT
I was born in 76 and have been a fan since I was about 5, I was a little scared of Ian, I saw him on MTV and being scared of him fascinated me. My love has grown ever since and now my 4 year old adores Tull as much as I do. Songs fron the Wood is an excellent album, I guess people werent that receptive toward it when it came out but on that album, each song is better than the next! The 4 year old runs around the house singing Jack in the Green....eh its just my opinion if it matters, but this album completely rocks! Dont they all! Welcome along to the JT Forum. Have a great time exploring the place and I look forward to reading you posts etc.
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1971roadrunner
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I got a toothache, going to see Dr. Bogenbroom.....I'm on my way 3 cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom!
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Post by 1971roadrunner on Nov 13, 2015 14:44:26 GMT
Thank you so much, I am so glad to be here with other people who feel the same as I do about JT! Should have joined much sooner!
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 13, 2015 17:25:42 GMT
Sorry to be the bad news bearer...my kid LOVED Tull inbetween about 6 months and 6 years...then did a big 180, started finding her own music and now vehemently hates TULL. I even took her to two concerts, when she still thought Dad was god...oh, that lapsed as well. Enjoy it while you can
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I got a toothache, going to see Dr. Bogenbroom.....I'm on my way 3 cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom!
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Post by 1971roadrunner on Nov 16, 2015 13:17:19 GMT
Haha, I figured that is how things will turn out with the kid, she adores anything I adore but Im sure once she gets to school full time with packs of other little girls, it will be boy band city and I will be attending things like Maroon 5 shows. Trying to savor every moment I can of this!
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Post by JTull 007 on Nov 16, 2015 14:19:23 GMT
Haha, I figured that is how things will turn out with the kid, she adores anything I adore but Im sure once she gets to school full time with packs of other little girls, it will be boy band city and I will be attending things like Maroon 5 shows. Trying to savor every moment I can of this! It's only natural. My son waited till he was 17 to see TULL LIVE. Girls are Girls and TULL Chicks Rock! My wife gave up Donny Osmond for "Songs From The Wood" in '77...
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I got a toothache, going to see Dr. Bogenbroom.....I'm on my way 3 cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom!
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Post by 1971roadrunner on Nov 16, 2015 14:23:26 GMT
whew, thank goodness she gave up Donny Osmond haha There's always hope for my daughter though, just so she doesn't go down the road of 'rap', I refuse to attend any Eminem shows
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 3:28:30 GMT
Happy Anniversary: Jethro Tull, Songs from the Wood - Rhino Entertainment
39 years ago today, in the wake of declaring themselves too old to rock 'n' roll and too young to die, Jethro Tull released their 10th album and revealed that they'd decided to folk things up a bit. Recorded in the autumn of 1976, just after the band had concluded their tour in support of the Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! album, Songs from the Wood definitely found Jethro Tull turning in a different musical direction. Indeed, upon its release, Melody Maker acknowledged that it was “definitely unlike anything they have recorded before” and subsequently theorized that “perhaps Ian Anderson has decided to put his money where his often over-sized mouth is, and really attempt to vary the formula.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_from_the_Wood
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Post by velvetgrn on Apr 10, 2016 16:12:52 GMT
Has Ian Anderson ever stated the name of the book of English folklore he was given that influenced the lyrics of SFTW?
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 11, 2016 9:03:52 GMT
Has Ian Anderson ever stated the name of the book of English folklore he was given that influenced the lyrics of SFTW? If he has I'm not aware of it. Over to the membership
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Post by tullpress on Apr 27, 2016 9:22:27 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 27, 2016 17:29:38 GMT
Many thanks for that. Intrigued so I started looking further. Christina Hole wrote a good many books on Folklore,superstition etc over a period from 1940 to 2011. Here's a list of all her books; www.goodreads.com/author/list/354772.Christina_HoleDo we have any reason to believe that the book Ian read had just been published or could it have been from an earlier period? I'll see what link I can find with her books and Jack in the Green lyrics.
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Post by bunkerfan on Apr 27, 2016 18:56:38 GMT
There's another book called The Green Man in Britain By Fran Doel, Geoff Doel where Jack in the Green is mentioned. Just a thought. The Green Man has many facets, many dimensions. He peers through his leaf mask in hundreds of church misericords and stone carvings. His innate link with the changing seasons and fertility is revealed in the medieval poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and in summer folk customs such as Jack in the Green, the Castleton Garland and the Burry Man. Perhaps he even lurks in the legendary hero of the Greenwood, Robin Hood. The Authors have been running summer schools and courses on the Green Man for many years, and in this fascinating study they discuss his significance in medival times and explore the modern development of the concept of the Green Man.[/a]
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Post by tullpress on Apr 28, 2016 10:05:22 GMT
Yep, it could have been an earlier book than this 1976 one. But these ideas of folk-myths, Green Man and whatnot only became popular in the 60s / 70s ... they're very much of their time, before more rigorous scholars put some proper research into it -- people like Roy Judge and Ronald Hutton. So, just a guess, but I don't imagine there were many (if any) popular, mass-market books on these subjects before the 70s. SFTW mirrors the ideas in vogue at that time .. not surprisingly. In case it's of interest, here's an obituary for Roy Judge -- www.theguardian.com/news/2000/dec/05/guardianobituaries1A
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 28, 2016 16:04:28 GMT
Yep, it could have been an earlier book than this 1976 one. But these ideas of folk-myths, Green Man and whatnot only became popular in the 60s / 70s ... they're very much of their time, before more rigorous scholars put some proper research into it -- people like Roy Judge and Ronald Hutton. So, just a guess, but I don't imagine there were many (if any) popular, mass-market books on these subjects before the 70s. SFTW mirrors the ideas in vogue at that time .. not surprisingly. In case it's of interest, here's an obituary for Roy Judge -- www.theguardian.com/news/2000/dec/05/guardianobituaries1A Andrew - thanks for your input with this particular subject. I will freely admit that IA's possible reading of these books and the subsequent lyrics for the SFTW songs had not occurred to me at all. Just thought it was something connected with moving to Pophleys - just proves your never to old to learn new facts
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Post by velvetgrn on Apr 28, 2016 17:04:47 GMT
Thanks for the reply. Well, replies. Roy Judge's work looks really interesting. Skip
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 28, 2016 17:08:48 GMT
There is a link with SFTW and APP in the form of good old British paganism. I was reminded of this article( in the APP thread) www.closeupfilmcentre.com/vertigo_magazine/issue-19-august-2008/mysterious-britain-jane-arden-jethro-tull-and-1973/ which talks about "rediscovering" our pagan past in the form of music and theatre. "In the early 1970s large numbers of people seemed to be keen... (to go into).. the woods and forests, the hills and dales and the neo-romantic contours of the British landscape. Whether in search of ley lines, stone circles, ancient hill forts or lost kings, the British seemed to be on a new quest for the rediscovery of their true identity which continues today.. .....this search was reflected in the music, literature and cinema of the time and books like Colin and Janet Bord’s Mysterious Britain (Paladin 1974) sold in vast quantities. The extraordinary Edgar Broughton Band somehow managed to get their bizarre pagan exorcism Out Demons Out into the singles chart in 1970; but the competing tensions in the quest for ‘Britishness’, ancient and modern, are nowhere better reflected than in the work of the rock band Jethro Tull."
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 28, 2016 17:13:36 GMT
Miss Marple here likes to play a game. I will find a definitive link in lyrics to Jack In The Green and the book that Ian was given. First find the book! I'm still chuffed at that stained glass window I found (pic) in a church in Kentish Town which shows a girl walking on and and crushing daffodils. Ian may laugh.
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Post by futureshock on Apr 28, 2016 23:25:48 GMT
I love this part: "As Ian leads the listener through a computerized celebration of medieval droolings, the large black dog on the album cover demands a Milkbone." ;D The other part which is a misinterpretation suggests "Hunting Girl" is about "the rape of a noble dish by a lowly nebbish". I believe it's just the opposite in terms of the story. Agree. There's no rape going on, just sexual hijinks of a spontaneous kind.
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Post by futureshock on Apr 28, 2016 23:31:46 GMT
Has Ian Anderson ever stated the name of the book of English folklore he was given that influenced the lyrics of SFTW? "Stan's Yearbook Of Ancient British Escapade Culture Well Worth Rephrasing Into Songs And Adding Music At A Later Date By Somebody Else With A Band And Talent 'Cause All I've Got Right Now Is This Irish Recorder And Have No Musical Talent Other Than Using This Dog Whistle To Herd Yaks On Holiday In Tibet" .......by Stan Lomas, second cousin of the famous Ray Henderson???
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Post by futureshock on Apr 28, 2016 23:33:12 GMT
I have no idea why I pay attention to this thread, except it's probably my favorite Tull album. Among about eight.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 29, 2016 6:23:28 GMT
I have no idea why I pay attention to this thread.... Well I'd hazard a guess my Canuk friend that the reason is that it's bloody riveting as is all the other threads.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 29, 2016 6:25:07 GMT
Has Ian Anderson ever stated the name of the book of English folklore he was given that influenced the lyrics of SFTW? "Stan's Yearbook Of Ancient British Escapade Culture Well Worth Rephrasing Into Songs And Adding Music At A Later Date By Somebody Else With A Band And Talent 'Cause All I've Got Right Now Is This Irish Recorder And Have No Musical Talent Other Than Using This Dog Whistle To Herd Yaks On Holiday In Tibet" .......by Stan Lomas, second cousin of the famous Ray Henderson???
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Post by futureshock on Apr 29, 2016 23:49:04 GMT
I have no idea why I pay attention to this thread.... Well I'd hazard a guess my Canuk friend that the reason is that it's bloody riveting as is all the other threads. The mystery has been solved! Thank yee thank yee.
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Post by rockodyssey on Jul 12, 2016 20:13:36 GMT
Next stage on my journey through the albums...
SONGS FROM THE WOOD (1977)
With a hey-nonny-nonny Jethro Tull embrace their folky sensibilities, albeit with the hard rock edge of Barre's guitar. I'm going to say that this marks the start of mid-period JT, which runs from here to Broadsword And The Beast. My worry is that although these albums are good (not sure about A), they won't represent much progression, but we'll see. The opening title track has a kind of monastic echo to some of the lines, which runs perilously close to being a bit crap but just stays on the right side of quirky. Tull like a Christmas song, and have released an entire Christmas album, but their definitive effort in the genre, the one that might just get into a top 50 Christmas songs countdown, is 'Ring Out Solstice Bells', which is, of course, thematically leaning more toward the pagan than the Christian. Some very complicated handclapping is involved, but they do capture a certain festive feel. 'The Whistler' was a single and it has an interesting verse structure where Anderson's vocal almost overlaps the end of one line with the start of the next. It does live up to the title too. His dexterity on the flute and whistles is plain to hear. 'Pibroch (Cap In Hand)' is supposed to start with Barre's guitar imitating the bagpipes, but, alas, it seems that Cacophonix has leapt from the pages of Goscinny and Uderzo's latest work instead. In fact the whole song is a bit of a mess and spoils an otherwise great album. The cover photo is rather literal, Anderson, well, in the wood. Being rustic. And all that.
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Post by argentull on Jul 12, 2016 21:26:23 GMT
I hope SW and Ian unearth some surprises....the 'extras' have been good. Sure, we will have some live stuff mixed by Jakko J. as we did with Paris 75 on MITG.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 13, 2016 2:14:35 GMT
Next stage on my journey through the albums... SONGS FROM THE WOOD (1977) With a hey-nonny-nonny Jethro Tull embrace their folky sensibilities, albeit with the hard rock edge of Barre's guitar. I'm going to say that this marks the start of mid-period JT, which runs from here to Broadsword And The Beast. My worry is that although these albums are good (not sure about A), they won't represent much progression, but we'll see. The opening title track has a kind of monastic echo to some of the lines, which runs perilously close to being a bit crap but just stays on the right side of quirky. Tull like a Christmas song, and have released an entire Christmas album, but their definitive effort in the genre, the one that might just get into a top 50 Christmas songs countdown, is 'Ring Out Solstice Bells', which is, of course, thematically leaning more toward the pagan than the Christian. Some very complicated handclapping is involved, but they do capture a certain festive feel. 'The Whistler' was a single and it has an interesting verse structure where Anderson's vocal almost overlaps the end of one line with the start of the next. It does live up to the title too. His dexterity on the flute and whistles is plain to hear. 'Pibroch (Cap In Hand)' is supposed to start with Barre's guitar imitating the bagpipes, but, alas, it seems that Cacophonix has leapt from the pages of Goscinny and Uderzo's latest work instead. In fact the whole song is a bit of a mess and spoils an otherwise great album. The cover photo is rather literal, Anderson, well, in the wood. Being rustic. And all that. NOT SURE ABOUT 'A' ? An interesting critique which has merit. Still a great album.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 15:12:30 GMT
I hope SW and Ian unearth some surprises....the 'extras' have been good. Sure, we will have some live stuff mixed by Jakko J. as we did with Paris 75 on MITG. Bring it on! Waiting for Stand Up next.
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Post by schubertmachiavelli on Aug 31, 2016 10:49:42 GMT
RE extras on the SW Remix set: just a guess, but my money's on the 1977 BBC Sight & Sound concert released in full (audio and video as the title implies!) and mixed up to glorious 5.1 by Mr Jakszyk (assuming the BBC tapes were multi-track… course they were…). In fact, I'm puzzled as to why this hasn't been released officially already.
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