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Post by maddogfagin on May 22, 2012 7:52:34 GMT
Ha ha...the blogger got tricked...stepped right into the Metallica/Iron Maiden Cross-eyed Mary poop pile. Happens to the best of us. . . . and the slab of vinyl in question
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 14:14:13 GMT
Ha ha...the blogger got tricked...stepped right into the Metallica/Iron Maiden Cross-eyed Mary poop pile. Happens to the best of us. Got to laugh.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 14:14:38 GMT
Ha ha...the blogger got tricked...stepped right into the Metallica/Iron Maiden Cross-eyed Mary poop pile. Happens to the best of us. . . . and the slab of vinyl in question Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 22:02:47 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 23, 2012 22:34:01 GMT
no need I thought it a good read.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 2:24:36 GMT
Spot the mistakes.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 24, 2012 8:40:27 GMT
Spot the mistakes. I like the way he described Aqualung. "The next track introduces us to a school yard prostitute and we roll through a mess of snarling vocal, British folk sensibilities and random flute solos. Just the subject matter alone was more than most bands at the time were willing to tackle."
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 17, 2012 13:13:47 GMT
Bloody 'ell thats put more of an aggressive slant on it. Great idea! Aqualung sounds very scary at first and the first chuckle!! Now putting on the analysing hat for a minute and making the point that emotion is shown in the human voice even after god knows how many takes - he doesn't sound too sympathetic with the character Aqualung.Wonder if that was his intention when he wrote it? Funnily enough I was just thinking about the lyrics to Cross- Eyed Mary and how dark and disturbing I think they are before I heard this video and by golly there's no sympathy there either for the school girl. Maybe he was just fed up singing and wanted to get a pint. Defy anyone not to do the "bu bu bubbu bub bub" after the line; "well that one's up to me - Hey!"
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 22, 2013 18:33:14 GMT
The Top 10 Concept Albums of All Timewww.guitarworld.com/top-10-concept-albums-all-time08. Jethro Tull, Aqualung Dun dah-dah, dah DUN DUN. Remember vinyl? It allowed Ian Anderson and company to make an album that was two concepts in one. Side A is about some perv street person and Side B is a rumination on organized religion. This split is also reflective of the accompanying music: one part hard rock and one part British folk. Dun dah-dah, dah DUN DUN.
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Album of my life: Something disturbing MARK LINDSAY Last updated 05:00 18/04/2013 www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/the-album-i-couldn-t-live-without/8561959/Album-of-my-life-Something-disturbing I was 10 years old when the last of my three older sisters left home, abandoning me to the solitude and desolation of an Invercargill winter. In 1971 that meant one crappy TV channel, my books, and whatever music I could get my hands on. Dad had bought a large, one-piece Phillips stereogram, so at least I had volume. The departing sister and her boyfriend left strict instructions; one box of albums goes into the attic never to be touched; one box of B graders I could play, but not take to parties (I was 10, so no problem). And then there were two albums I was told were mine to keep; Jethro Tull's 'This Was' and towering over everything before it, the epic 'Aqualung'. Everything had changed. Aqualung grew slowly on me and, to be honest, it scared me. I didn't understand what the snarling figure on the cover meant. The music was a confusing mix of hard-edged power rock, that still raises my adrenalin, and acoustic beauty that gave me the cold-shivers. It was impossible for a boy to understand how a leeching wino could be so many different things. In my mind, Aqualung the hobo became God-like. He was a heroic, latter day messiah whose grovelling baseness only reflected the poverty of the society that made him. His flaws were epic; he was noble even as snot ran down his nose. For all the talk of God, death, sex and a runaway train, I was never sure that God was Aqualung's answer; maybe he was the problem. Afterall, in Locomotive Breath: "God, he stole the handle (the brake) and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down". The flawed and the fallen had a lot to contend with. A tittering schoolboy wondered what the hell to take out of all this. Ian Anderson, Tull's maniacal leader, produced a few overblown and self-indulgent albums over his career, but Aqualung rocked hard. It was beautiful and ugly and its best moments filled me with exultation. I listened to it for years, enjoying the disquiet it caused me; loving that my parents' generation hated it; relishing my struggle to understand why it was so compelling. The view from Invercargill was narrow and as the '70s slipped into the '80s, big concept albums got rolled by the urgency and excitement of The Clash, the Sex Pistols and The Stranglers. As I fled that town for good, Aqualung got left behind, in that box at my parents' place. But it never quite left me. All those hours on the Phillips Stereogram had hard wired Aqualung onto my young psyche. That's why, 30 years later when I finally set up another turntable, Aqualung roared out again, the demented hobo still raging against the world and its maker. Like an unchanged moment in a 10-year-old boy's life, that album still scares me.
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Post by morthoron on Apr 21, 2013 0:13:57 GMT
Thanks for the article, Tootull. I can understand exactly where Mark Lindsay was coming from. I was only eleven years old when Aqualung was released, and for a kid in Catholic school hearing that album for the first time, it was revelatory. Between Tull's Aqualung and the first concert I saw (Alice Cooper's School Out Tour 1972 at age 12), I believe I was fundamentally changed. Some would say "warped", but that is merely splitting hairs. As I said, being a Catholic boy hearing the eerie undertones of "My God" or the anti-clerical, anti-religious themes of "Hymn 43" and "Wind Up" did not make me "lose my religion", but even at 11 or 12 I was questioning things and to hear Ian Anderson so eloquently question the same religious themes accorded with what I was thinking. I finally did abandon the church, and perhaps Ian bears much of the blame. This was not merely "rock and roll" anymore, this was even beyond The Beatles as far as musical presentation of lyrical concepts. To this day, Aqualung is still one of the most cerebral rock albums I've ever heard. Yet the first thing that really caught my ear was the line "Snot is running down his nose". Now, you make think it silly now, but you really didn't hear stuff like that on the radio, and for an eleven year old, it was a delight! TV was highly censored and so was radio. People just didn't say things like that, and the fact that you could do it in the rock medium (like Alice singing the highly controversial "Dead Babies", also released in 71). It gave me a whole new perspective. Whatever critics say, music can and does have a huge, sometimes life-altering impact on people. Oh, and here's my Aqualung review I did in 2010 for BlogCritics.org: blogcritics.org/music/article/music-review-jethro-tull-aqualung1/
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www.wholenote.com/n6653--Jethro-Tulls-Ian-Anderson-Shares-the-Story-Behind-the-Iconic-Riff-From-Aqualung Posted Nov 21, 2013 at 2:14pm Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) “Aqualung” Aqualung (1971) “I compose most of my songs on acoustic, and therefore the way I play the guitar impacts on the way the song sounds. "I wrote the main riff [to ‘Aqualung’] in a hotel room in New York City. At the time I was trying to write songs that had [single-note] lines that would translate on the electric. I knew the ‘Aqualung’ riff would work well because it pretty much echoes the vocal melody. "In this case, the riff I played for Martin Barre [Jethro Tull lead guitarist] on the acoustic instantly became the song’s electric part.” From the GW archive: This story originally appeared in the February/March 2005 issue of Guitar World Acoustic.
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Post by futureshock on Feb 17, 2014 22:50:56 GMT
Cross-Eyed Mary is I think in the world's Top 100 songs of all time of any style. It has everything going for it and every aspect of it is a zenith. Sometimes, the great possibilities of creative arts collide and a standing wave of supreme attainment can arrive, outside expectations, but part of a pattern. CEM is not one of the big four radio hits of that album, Aqualung, Loco Breath and a couple others get more radio and stage time. But CEM is worthy of 10,000 years of attention. Something beyond great arrived with that songs completion. Marvel at it.
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Post by morthoron on Feb 18, 2014 17:32:35 GMT
Here's my 2010 review of Aqualung (cited as an 'Editor's Pick') on the blogcritics.org site: Aqualung ReviewA brief excerpt: The poetic allusiveness of the lyrics [from the song "Aqualung"] is exceptionally strong and evokes England to its very core (“feeling alone, the army’s up the road, salvation a la mode, and a cup of tea”), while reminding us that the death of the homeless beggar, who snatches his last rattling breath with “deep-sea diver sounds”, is the reason the album is called Aqualung in the first place (an ‘aqualung’ is a breathing apparatus used by deep-sea divers, consisting of a mouthpiece attached to air cylinders, causing the distinctive echoed gasping sounds as oxygen is breathed in).
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 7, 2014 3:35:45 GMT
Eddie Vedder sang it in the shower...so did Rotten Johnny
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 13:52:22 GMT
Now this is interesting.Published on 16 September 2012 by Bruno Samppa, Ian Anderson isolated vocals - Aqualung, Cross-Eyed Mary, Up To Me Remy has found a different version of the "Aqualung" vocals... Jethro Tull AQUALUNG Vocals Only
Uploaded by Joh PheAmazing how different this sounds without instrumentation. Makes me want to sing it in the shower... A special link to the Burton Silverman Thread by Equus posted earlier... jethrotull.proboards.com/thread/2613/burton-silverman-man-painted-aqualung Centre/center channel from the marvelous 5.1.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 2, 2014 7:50:15 GMT
Take you to the cinema And leave you in a Wimpy Bar You tell me that we've gone too far Come running up to meTHE SLOW DEATH OF WIMPY, A BRITISH INSTITUTION This year, Wimpy – one of Britain’s inaugural fast food chains – turns 60. At its peak, there were over 500 Wimpys in the UK and one on every high street in every major city, all of them serving a very British approximation of what hamburgers should be: more football stadium burger van than Texan dirty food sudden death. But the high street institution’s numbers are dwindling; there are now just 93 restaurants remaining in the UK, with rivals McDonald's and Burger King operating roughly 1,300 branches each.www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-slow-death-of-a-british-institution-whats-next-for-wimpy
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Post by Equus on Jul 14, 2014 9:36:40 GMT
It has been said that Aqualung is a pedophile. Ian Anderson has said that Aqualung is a pedophile so that should close the case... or what? Too me there is a big difference between the creator of the lyrics, and the lyrics. Let's say that I had written this sentence: "Ice bears are hunting for food in the Antarctic." Now you may claim that I have written a sentence about Ice bears that are hunting for food in the Antarctic, but now I claim that it's about something else. I have written this sentence, and therefore I have the right to determine what it's all about, and I say that it's about moonbeams shining on a lake in Alaska... You could then say that it can't possibly be about moonbeams shining on a lake in Alaska, since the lyrics doesn't specifically say anything about something like that... and in that case I must say that I think that you are right... Back to Aqualung... In other words... If Ian Anderson claim that Aqualung is a pedophile, is Aqualung then a pedophile? If we examine the lyrics we find no evidence that he is. "Sitting on the park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot is running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Aqualung Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run. Aqualung Feeling like a dead duck spitting out pieces of his broken luck. Oh, Aqualung." This is often referred to as the evidence of Aqualung being a pedophile, but this could also be someone else, looking at Aqualung, bringing his own prejudice to the table. Yes, Anderson have written the lyrics together with Jennie Franks, but even so... Andersons statements about Aqualung being a pedophile can't be found in the lyrics... Aqualung may be a pedophile, but it is open for interpretations... "Sitting on the park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot is running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Aqualung Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run. Aqualung Feeling like a dead duck spitting out pieces of his broken luck. Oh, Aqualung." These lines could be spoken by a person who sees Aqualung for what he is... a pedophile... but it could also be spoken by a person who don't know who Aqualung is. Someone who interprets Aqualung in a wrong way. It could be someone who are full of prejudice toward Aqualung. Maybe even someone who believes that Aqualung is a pedophile... The word "his" tells us that the lines are not spoken by Aqualung, but by someone else. In other words, this is not Aqualung talking about himself. This is not Aqualung confessing his sins. To me the poets meaning about how the lyrics should be interpreted is only one meaning out of many. Andersons own interpretation is in other words not the truth about how these lyrics should be interpreted. "...Or maybe her attention is drawn by Aqualung, who watches through the railings as they play." We can interpret these lines as Aqualung looking at Mary having sex in the playground, but it doesn't specifically say so... We can think of this as Aqualung the pedophile looking at her having sex, but again there is no evidence for something like that. Even if Anderson were to say that this was why he wrote these lines, it wouldn't alter the fact that the actual lyrics don't specifically state that something like that is going on. She may actually just be playing...
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 14, 2014 17:40:32 GMT
"Eyeing little girls with bad intent"
"Watching as the frilly panties run"
sounds like paedophilia to me.
If he had been describing some old down and out who had no inclination towards paedophilia and had maybe lost all his family and was thinking of his own youth then the lines might have gone;
"Eying little girls with sad lament"
"Watching as the children run"
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Post by Equus on Jul 14, 2014 19:25:30 GMT
"Eyeing little girls with bad intent" "Watching as the frilly panties run" sounds like paedophilia to me. If he had been describing some old down and out who had no inclination towards paedophilia and had maybe lost all his family and was thinking of his own youth then the lines might have gone; "Eying little girls with sad lament" "Watching as the children run" ...but there is still no real evidence in the lyrics that he is a pedophile. "Eyeing little girls with bad intent" "Watching as the frilly panties run"These lines could be about the beholder, and his misunderstood version of who Aqualung is, and what he is up to. If we look at the lyrics isolated, and only at the lyrics, the evidence is simply not there... It doesn't matter what Anderson mend to write. What matters is what he wrote, and that there is no clear statement in the lyrics that tells us clearly that Aqualung is a pedophile. We have to interpret the lyrics to get to the point where we start to see Aqualung as a pedophile. The following lines actually reminds me of how the Nazis were looking at, and talking about the Jews... There is no real evidence in the lyrics for that either... "Sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run. Feeling like a dead duck spitting out pieces of his broken luck."
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jul 14, 2014 20:14:06 GMT
"Eyeing little girls with bad intent" "Watching as the frilly panties run" sounds like paedophilia to me. If he had been describing some old down and out who had no inclination towards paedophilia and had maybe lost all his family and was thinking of his own youth then the lines might have gone; "Eying little girls with sad lament" "Watching as the children run" Funny non-rabbit, but for all the years I've heard that song, (Aqualung)I never thought it was about a paedophile, an old letch maybe, but I never thought the term paedophile, and I don't think most fans would think so....who would want to be associated with such a thing.....but I must admit the lyric is scary in that regard..... And Cross-Eyed Mary, I always felt was more than a child......, but perhaps I am kidding myself.....maybe sometimes we listen to songs without really listening....
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 14, 2014 21:09:16 GMT
"Eyeing little girls with bad intent" "Watching as the frilly panties run" sounds like paedophilia to me. If he had been describing some old down and out who had no inclination towards paedophilia and had maybe lost all his family and was thinking of his own youth then the lines might have gone; "Eying little girls with sad lament" "Watching as the children run" Funny non-rabbit, but for all the years I've heard that song, (Aqualung)I never thought it was about a paedophile, an old letch maybe, but I never thought the term paedophile, and I don't think most fans would think so....who would want to be associated with such a thing.....but I must admit the lyric is scary in that regard..... And Cross-Eyed Mary, I always felt was more than a child......, but perhaps I am kidding myself.....maybe sometimes we listen to songs without really listening.... I didn't think too deeply about it then either however the lyrics do contain the words "little girls" and "bad intent" so it's not a great leap to say that maybe Aqualung had dark intentions or compulsions. I also remember thinking that Cross-Eyed Mary was a risqué song however I assumed that Mary was in her final year at school - maybe she was?
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 14, 2014 21:14:27 GMT
...but there is still no real evidence in the lyrics that he is a pedophile. That's true. It's hinted at by the onlooker. We shall never know. Aqualung - yet another figure from the 70's/80's who may or may not have been involved in abuse.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jul 14, 2014 22:50:08 GMT
I also remember thinking that Cross-Eyed Mary was a risqué song however I assumed that Mary was in her final year at school - maybe she was? [/quote] She was maybe a teacher......... .........or the headmistress even.........
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Post by Equus on Jul 14, 2014 23:02:03 GMT
...but there is still no real evidence in the lyrics that he is a pedophile. That's true. It's hinted at by the onlooker. We shall never know. Aqualung - yet another figure from the 70's/80's who may or may not have been involved in abuse. This really comes from my conviction that the poet and the lyrics are two different entities. The poet may have a clear idea about what he want to write about, but what he actually has written, may be very different from what he wanted to write. The idea is not the same as the outcome of these thought processes, or the creation of the actual lyrics. The idea and the lyrics are not the same. The landscape is not the map. The poet and the lyrics are not the same, and because of that, the poets opinion and the lyrics can be separated, and seen as two different entities. The poet is the one who has created the lyrics, but if he tries to tell us about how we should interpret it, or why and with what purpose it was written, he becomes a voice that have a way to interpret the poem, but it's only one voice among many. He has created the lyrics, but now it is out there. His interpretation is only true if he can prove that the lyrics is to be interpreted the way he says. If there are no clear evidence for his, or our own interpretation, then it is just that. An interpretation. This is when we, the listener, add a new layer of creativity to the poem, or the lyrics. We search for a meaning and, if we do, we will probably find one. Then words like: "Laughing in the playground. Gets no kicks from little boys." becomes something more than there is evidence for in the two sentences. So everyone have different ways of understanding and interpreting these lyrics, and therefore the ways of listening to something like Jethro Tull are numerous.
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Post by b2hammond on Jul 14, 2014 23:39:17 GMT
I also remember thinking that Cross-Eyed Mary was a risqué song however I assumed that Mary was in her final year at school - maybe she was? She was maybe a teacher......... .........or the headmistress even......... [/quote] Umm... No.. . I believe it was Ian himself who said that Cross Eyed Mary was "a 14 year old Roman-Catholic prostitute named Cross Eyed Mary".
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 15, 2014 4:57:26 GMT
So so many great lyrics from that album that I can recite instantly and still they have more meaning than the doctrines that were shoved down my throat (and brain) by the religious parents and teachers way back then.
When I was young and they packed me off to school and taught me how not to play the game, I didn't mind if they groomed me for success, or if they said that I was a fool. So I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules.
Confessing to the endless sin the endless whining sounds.
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Post by Equus on Jul 15, 2014 7:54:37 GMT
From the first time I heard the song, Cross Eyed Mary, I just couldn't help thinking that she had become cross eyed because of lots, and lots of sex... Maybe Ian had that in mind when he wrote about her...
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