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Post by warchild on May 11, 2008 0:35:34 GMT
I am looking forward to this and the new one.
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Post by admin on May 11, 2008 20:28:25 GMT
Thanks man, it just bothers me sometimes that the places where it seems like IA could find shelter from the storm are sometimes the places where he gets it from all sides. Like most hard cores I have never wanted to see anyone removed, but I don't know what's goin on and resolutely have trust in Ian's judgement in all areas, most recently I for one felt that the Jon and Andy band, while always excellent had become so good it was stupid, but alot of people seem to not like Jon cause he doesn't move around like Glen or Jeffrey. For instance if you get dime torrents check out that show from Ravinia in 02, I would call it sweet and nasty, Jon one hell of a tasteful anchor. But do I like the new guys sure! Would I get a kick if Glen rejoined someday? Doubtless. Tull has been so much fun forever it is truly silly and Ian is the constant, I've gotta credit him the most. Hey! If by getting it from all sides you mean my comment can I just stress it was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek and not some sort of veiled dig at IA. Just wanted to clear that up. ;D
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Post by tullistray on May 12, 2008 1:54:47 GMT
Thanks man, it just bothers me sometimes that the places where it seems like IA could find shelter from the storm are sometimes the places where he gets it from all sides. Like most hard cores I have never wanted to see anyone removed, but I don't know what's goin on and resolutely have trust in Ian's judgement in all areas, most recently I for one felt that the Jon and Andy band, while always excellent had become so good it was stupid, but alot of people seem to not like Jon cause he doesn't move around like Glen or Jeffrey. For instance if you get dime torrents check out that show from Ravinia in 02, I would call it sweet and nasty, Jon one hell of a tasteful anchor. But do I like the new guys sure! Would I get a kick if Glen rejoined someday? Doubtless. Tull has been so much fun forever it is truly silly and Ian is the constant, I've gotta credit him the most. Hey! If by getting it from all sides you mean my comment can I just stress it was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek and not some sort of veiled dig at IA. Just wanted to clear that up. ;D
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Post by tullistray on May 12, 2008 2:18:02 GMT
Thanks man, it just bothers me sometimes that the places where it seems like IA could find shelter from the storm are sometimes the places where he gets it from all sides. Like most hard cores I have never wanted to see anyone removed, but I don't know what's goin on and resolutely have trust in Ian's judgement in all areas, most recently I for one felt that the Jon and Andy band, while always excellent had become so good it was stupid, but alot of people seem to not like Jon cause he doesn't move around like Glen or Jeffrey. For instance if you get dime torrents check out that show from Ravinia in 02, I would call it sweet and nasty, Jon one hell of a tasteful anchor. But do I like the new guys sure! Would I get a kick if Glen rejoined someday? Doubtless. Tull has been so much fun forever it is truly silly and Ian is the constant, I've gotta credit him the most. Hey! If by getting it from all sides you mean my comment can I just stress it was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek and not some sort of veiled dig at IA. Just wanted to clear that up. ;D No way Col, I don't think I meant to intimate anything of the kind towards you in particular. It just alarms be that both here and other Tull sites, and to a lesser extent You Tube, that people who have such an enormous problem with his voice, of which I first started to notice a change in about 77 would bother to visit a site, at least with any frequency, that is specifically about Jethro Tull. I mean they are more than welcome but it is nevertheless a dichotomy to me. I believe a segment of their audience are actually fans of a perception of a prog rock band, circa, maybe 71-75 that I don't believe they ever really were. I have said before that to the extent they have musical relatives, and I really believe they do not, they are Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span moreso than Yes or ELP or Genesis. As to the lack of new material I believe there are a few factors at play, one, Ian's age, although I know Duke Ellington was still coming up with new stuff at this age or older, I do not believe it was still with the same frequency, and likely it is true of all songwriters, I believe the majority of the naysayers tend to be 40 or younger, I could be wrong. Also given the lukewarm response to most of their product, really, all of their product in the past 30 years, which I daresay has included some of their very best, this may play a small part. Actually professional critical response has been much more positive in the past twenty years than in the seventies when you were supposed to be embarrassed to admit to being a Tull fan, I sort of relished it, pushing the bowls of Gary Numan and even Elvis Costello away. I saw several Tull shows in the seventies that were not as good as some seen in the past ten years, although this was in part due to the older shows having been in sports arenas. I only saw Passion Play once and it was disapointing after the extraordinary TAAB performances, but my seat was $h1te. Moderate Tull fan friends of mine who were on mescaline in the front row for the Play still say it was the best show they have ever seen, I do not doubt it. Plus I differ so very strongly from some of the Tullies in that I consider their output starting with Roots to Branches to be outstanding. The Christmas Album trails only TAAB and SFTW for me. Love the solo stuff, including the girl violinists, not like it alot, I love it. If my supposition is correct, that some of the naysayers are younger, I can kind of tell because sometimes bands that are mentioned are not bands that would have attracted hard core Tullies in the early seventies. For instance in 1972 there was no less hip band to like than Black Sabbath, a very good show to get vomited on or have a neandrathal attack you, with Uriah Heep, the Guess Who and to a somewhat lesser extent, even Deep Purple and dare I say, Led Zeppelin. Believe me I know when Zep was good, there has rarely been better, but they were not close to being as consistent a live act as Tull was in their youth. Doubtless some of the bad blood between them started when Tull was stealing the headlines on the first Zep US tour, I believe I read that even Jimi did not like following them on stage. Very grateful for this forum Col, and with all dissenting opinions, I respect all of them that are sent with kind intent. I envy your having seen them in the walled city of York! One little ps on this so i can get it into mini novel length is I read about 8 years ago, probably in a new day, the old excellent tullzine, that Ians voice problems had finally been diagnosed as a result of being the only flute player who sang over a sometimes very loud rock band, apparently those muscles are at odds with each other, and also has to do with, what to me anyway, is the slight improvement in his vocals since dot com, or maybe before a bit. That is something that no other rock lead man has had to deal with. Should he quit? Seems that is his decision, quite pleased he has not. Also thrombosis has diminished some of his acrobatic tendencies, its a bitch getting old, everyone finds out eventually, I miss his flute twirling as much as the voice, and there is less of his lunging at you which was very cool, time robs these skills, but he is very much alive. Is he an asshole?If he is he is quite a charitable one and very environmentally proactive. Seems you would have to know him alot better than anyone writing in to a fan board would know with any degree of certainty, several aspects to a truth usually, in addition to hearsay that he is, there are many in his circles who claim very much otherwise, and if you are not careful I will write them all down again. Yes I have spoken to Maart, but he did not dislike him enough to turn down gifts or use him on solo efforts, gossip is not befitting Ian Anderson, it is for footballers and talk show people in Brittany land.
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Post by admin on May 12, 2008 20:35:35 GMT
No way Col, I don't think I meant to intimate anything of the kind towards you in particular. It just alarms be that both here and other Tull sites, and to a lesser extent You Tube, that people who have such an enormous problem with his voice, of which I first started to notice a change in about 77 would bother to visit a site, at least with any frequency, that is specifically about Jethro Tull. I mean they are more than welcome but it is nevertheless a dichotomy to me. I believe a segment of their audience are actually fans of a perception of a prog rock band, circa, maybe 71-75 that I don't believe they ever really were. I have said before that to the extent they have musical relatives, and I really believe they do not, they are Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span moreso than Yes or ELP or Genesis. As to the lack of new material I believe there are a few factors at play, one, Ian's age, although I know Duke Ellington was still coming up with new stuff at this age or older, I do not believe it was still with the same frequency, and likely it is true of all songwriters, I believe the majority of the naysayers tend to be 40 or younger, I could be wrong. Also given the lukewarm response to most of their product, really, all of their product in the past 30 years, which I daresay has included some of their very best, this may play a small part. Actually professional critical response has been much more positive in the past twenty years than in the seventies when you were supposed to be embarrassed to admit to being a Tull fan, I sort of relished it, pushing the bowls of Gary Numan and even Elvis Costello away. I saw several Tull shows in the seventies that were not as good as some seen in the past ten years, although this was in part due to the older shows having been in sports arenas. I only saw Passion Play once and it was disapointing after the extraordinary TAAB performances, but my seat was $h1te. Moderate Tull fan friends of mine who were on mescaline in the front row for the Play still say it was the best show they have ever seen, I do not doubt it. Plus I differ so very strongly from some of the Tullies in that I consider their output starting with Roots to Branches to be outstanding. The Christmas Album trails only TAAB and SFTW for me. Love the solo stuff, including the girl violinists, not like it alot, I love it. If my supposition is correct, that some of the naysayers are younger, I can kind of tell because sometimes bands that are mentioned are not bands that would have attracted hard core Tullies in the early seventies. For instance in 1972 there was no less hip band to like than Black Sabbath, a very good show to get vomited on or have a neandrathal attack you, with Uriah Heep, the Guess Who and to a somewhat lesser extent, even Deep Purple and dare I say, Led Zeppelin. Believe me I know when Zep was good, there has rarely been better, but they were not close to being as consistent a live act as Tull was in their youth. Doubtless some of the bad blood between them started when Tull was stealing the headlines on the first Zep US tour, I believe I read that even Jimi did not like following them on stage. Very grateful for this forum Col, and with all dissenting opinions, I respect all of them that are sent with kind intent. I envy your having seen them in the walled city of York! One little ps on this so i can get it into mini novel length is I read about 8 years ago, probably in a new day, the old excellent tullzine, that Ians voice problems had finally been diagnosed as a result of being the only flute player who sang over a sometimes very loud rock band, apparently those muscles are at odds with each other, and also has to do with, what to me anyway, is the slight improvement in his vocals since dot com, or maybe before a bit. That is something that no other rock lead man has had to deal with. Should he quit? Seems that is his decision, quite pleased he has not. Also thrombosis has diminished some of his acrobatic tendencies, its a bitch getting old, everyone finds out eventually, I miss his flute twirling as much as the voice, and there is less of his lunging at you which was very cool, time robs these skills, but he is very much alive. Is he an asshole?If he is he is quite a charitable one and very environmentally proactive. Seems you would have to know him alot better than anyone writing in to a fan board would know with any degree of certainty, several aspects to a truth usually, in addition to hearsay that he is, there are many in his circles who claim very much otherwise, and if you are not careful I will write them all down again. Yes I have spoken to Maart, but he did not dislike him enough to turn down gifts or use him on solo efforts, gossip is not befitting Ian Anderson, it is for footballers and talk show people in Brittany land. Interesting theory about the loud flute playing affecting his voice, I do remember reading somewhere that he used to be a very heavy smoker too so that probably didn't help either. But there you go, as you so correctly said, it's a bugger getting old but there is still plenty of go in him yet. To be fair I do understand the 'naysayers' point of view and have no problem with anyone deciding todays Tull are not to their liking any more, what does puzzle me though is how a small element of the old fans seem to have almost made a hobby out of taking any opportunity to bash Tull. There are thousand of other bands out there, and some of them are pretty darn good too. If I ever find Tull not to my taste any more I'll just go and listen to someone else.
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Post by admin on May 20, 2008 8:49:04 GMT
DVD review from www.getreadytorock.com/reviews2008/jethro_tull_dvd2.htm JETHRO TULL Jack In The Green Eagle Vision EREDV689 (2008) Eighties retrospective for 40th birthday boys... This is an unusual release, coinciding with the band's 40th anniversary. Whether due to constraints of available footage or by design the producers have chosen to feature three German TV concerts from the eighties - not exactly Tull's golden period. The ubiquitous "keyboard solo" really says it all during this decade and Peter-John Vettese's mullet...well.
The main gig comes from 'Rockpop' in 1982 when they were promoting their 'Broadsword and The Beast' album. Fast-forward to 1986 and we get five tracks including 'Thick As A Brick' and some rare noodling from Martin Barre leads into one of those instrumental pieces that the band does so well (and that never appear on album!). From 1993 two tracks from their 25th anniversary tour 'My Sunday Feeling' and 'So Much Trouble' feature the band in their "lounge lizard" setting.
As a bookend, and somewhat incongruous, there are two vintage performances from 'Beat Club' dated 1970-71. As to be expected from this series, weird camera angles and transitions abound and it is very much of its time. The false start to 'Nothing Is Easy' will interest the faithful, though.
There is a useful booklet with commentary (and endorsement) from Ian Anderson which puts these German gigs in context. He pays homage to legendary German promoter Fritz Rau (who invited Anderson back in 2005 for the unplugged Frankfurt orchestral concert also documented on CD and DVD). According to Rau it was Jimi Hendrix who recommended Tull after they'd supported him in Scandinavia and - in 1970 - at the Isle of Wight Festival.
Sound-wise the DVD is OK but nothing more than you'd expect from 20 year old videotape.
As a historical curios and snapshot of the band in the eighties this DVD will be lapped up by hardcore fans, but newcomers might be better served with 2002's 'Living With The Past' or even 'Live At Montreux 2003'.
***½
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Post by TM on May 21, 2008 1:24:15 GMT
DVD review from www.getreadytorock.com/reviews2008/jethro_tull_dvd2.htm JETHRO TULL Jack In The Green Eagle Vision EREDV689 (2008) Eighties retrospective for 40th birthday boys... This is an unusual release, coinciding with the band's 40th anniversary. Whether due to constraints of available footage or by design the producers have chosen to feature three German TV concerts from the eighties - not exactly Tull's golden period. The ubiquitous "keyboard solo" really says it all during this decade and Peter-John Vettese's mullet...well.
The main gig comes from 'Rockpop' in 1982 when they were promoting their 'Broadsword and The Beast' album. Fast-forward to 1986 and we get five tracks including 'Thick As A Brick' and some rare noodling from Martin Barre leads into one of those instrumental pieces that the band does so well (and that never appear on album!). From 1993 two tracks from their 25th anniversary tour 'My Sunday Feeling' and 'So Much Trouble' feature the band in their "lounge lizard" setting.
As a bookend, and somewhat incongruous, there are two vintage performances from 'Beat Club' dated 1970-71. As to be expected from this series, weird camera angles and transitions abound and it is very much of its time. The false start to 'Nothing Is Easy' will interest the faithful, though.
There is a useful booklet with commentary (and endorsement) from Ian Anderson which puts these German gigs in context. He pays homage to legendary German promoter Fritz Rau (who invited Anderson back in 2005 for the unplugged Frankfurt orchestral concert also documented on CD and DVD). According to Rau it was Jimi Hendrix who recommended Tull after they'd supported him in Scandinavia and - in 1970 - at the Isle of Wight Festival.
Sound-wise the DVD is OK but nothing more than you'd expect from 20 year old videotape.
As a historical curios and snapshot of the band in the eighties this DVD will be lapped up by hardcore fans, but newcomers might be better served with 2002's 'Living With The Past' or even 'Live At Montreux 2003'.
***½
Thanks Col. Are you sure your name isn't David Coursey?
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Post by admin on May 21, 2008 8:41:05 GMT
Thanks Col. Are you sure your name isn't David Coursey? Lol Nooooo, just lil' ol' me.
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Post by electrocutas on May 22, 2008 11:04:57 GMT
Just been watching the Jack in the green at last
Nice to see a good quality version of Hunting Girl from Rocksummer 86 as the clip circulating previously was poor Nothing new as has been mentioned BUT it is a nice selection.
The only real downside is that in a couple of the programmes there are sound glitches.. Mainly just volume drops, Well seeing as this is 2008 "The digital Age" and all that, you really would have thought Mr Eagle & his Vision crew would have been able to rectify them.
Still Good it is value for you're pennies if you shop around.
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Post by silkenmist on May 23, 2008 16:35:07 GMT
Just been watching the Jack in the green at last Nice to see a good quality version of Hunting Girl from Rocksummer 86 as the clip circulating previously was poor Nothing new as has been mentioned BUT it is a nice selection. The only real downside is that in a couple of the programmes there are sound glitches.. Mainly just volume drops, Well seeing as this is 2008 "The digital Age" and all that, you really would have thought Mr Eagle & his Vision crew would have been able to rectify them. Still Good it is value for you're pennies if you shop around. Hi. I just got mine when I got home from work last night and will watch it at my leisure over the weekend. I have heard basically the same thing from you, Electrocutes, and a few other friends that bought it. I am sure the era that this video depicts will be to my liking, despite the current lineup of Tull. (I bought mine from Amazon, it just happened to be on sale for $12.95, but with shipping and handling, it came to $15.95.) Regards, Silken...
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Post by silkenmist on May 27, 2008 16:23:35 GMT
Just been watching the Jack in the green at last Nice to see a good quality version of Hunting Girl from Rocksummer 86 as the clip circulating previously was poor Nothing new as has been mentioned BUT it is a nice selection. The only real downside is that in a couple of the programmes there are sound glitches.. Mainly just volume drops, Well seeing as this is 2008 "The digital Age" and all that, you really would have thought Mr Eagle & his Vision crew would have been able to rectify them. Still Good it is value for you're pennies if you shop around. Hi Again: Well, I saw all of the "new" Tull dvd last night. Here's my take on it. It was as good as I expected it to be, although it didn't have any bonus material which was a bit of a disappointment. Still, for what it is, which is Tull Live from '70-'93, it is excellent. It's nice to have footage of Ian and the band from these periods. The quality of this new dvd is very good, both audio as well as visual (although I did catch a few glitches as you did Electrocutes). I am slightly disappointed with the "Out In The Green" footage which is only 4 years after the '82 footage. Ian looks pretty good in '82, and the way I remember him looking from the Slipstream video which I think was around this time, the music is excellent as always as well as the performance, but Ian looks alot older in this footage. I also viewed this section a few times because it was so hard to believe that Ian looked like this. I think some of it was the fault of the person who was operating the close up camera. It was mostly side shots of Ian, up close & extremely personal, which I don't think was a good call. His beard is almost entirely white which looked strange. He would've been around 40, which isn't that old. Guess he was prematurely grey. Ian also seemed to have gained some weight during this time so that didn't help. Martin, on the other hand, seems to have lost a good deal of weight which is good, but he looked alot different too. Guess time does have it's way of wearing us down. It's amazing how much a person's looks can change as they age. I, actually got the most enjoyment out of seeing the earlier footage. Regards, Silken...
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Post by TM on May 27, 2008 17:44:09 GMT
Just been watching the Jack in the green at last Nice to see a good quality version of Hunting Girl from Rocksummer 86 as the clip circulating previously was poor Nothing new as has been mentioned BUT it is a nice selection. The only real downside is that in a couple of the programmes there are sound glitches.. Mainly just volume drops, Well seeing as this is 2008 "The digital Age" and all that, you really would have thought Mr Eagle & his Vision crew would have been able to rectify them. Still Good it is value for you're pennies if you shop around. Hi Again: Well, I saw all of the "new" Tull dvd last night. Here's my take on it. It was as good as I expected it to be, although it didn't have any bonus material which was a bit of a disappointment. Still, for what it is, which is Tull Live from '70-'93, it is excellent. It's nice to have footage of Ian and the band from these periods. The quality of this new dvd is very good, both audio as well as visual (although I did catch a few glitches as you did Electrocutes). I am slightly disappointed with the "Out In The Green" footage which is only 4 years after the '82 footage. Ian looks pretty good in '82, and the way I remember him looking from the Slipstream video which I think was around this time, the music is excellent as always as well as the performance, but Ian looks alot older in this footage. I also viewed this section a few times because it was so hard to believe that Ian looked like this. I think some of it was the fault of the person who was operating the close up camera. It was mostly side shots of Ian, up close & extremely personal, which I don't think was a good call. His beard is almost entirely white which looked strange. He would've been around 40, which isn't that old. Guess he was prematurely grey. Ian also seemed to have gained some weight during this time so that didn't help. Martin, on the other hand, seems to have lost a good deal of weight which is good, but he looked alot different too. Guess time does have it's way of wearing us down. It's amazing how much a person's looks can change as they age. I, actually got the most enjoyment out of seeing the earlier footage. Regards, Silken... Well, to the chagrin of Jeff , I got my copy today and will try to give it watch sometime this week. I'm looking forward to the 1982 the most. I had terrible seats for that tour...on the side of the stage - somewhere toward the back. So I never saw the ship, from the front anyway. So hopefully there will be some good shots on this video. I'm surprised to hear how old Ian appeared to you in 1986, and I'm afraid to ask what you think of him now!
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Post by silkenmist on May 27, 2008 22:24:29 GMT
Hi Again: Well, I saw all of the "new" Tull dvd last night. Here's my take on it. It was as good as I expected it to be, although it didn't have any bonus material which was a bit of a disappointment. Still, for what it is, which is Tull Live from '70-'93, it is excellent. It's nice to have footage of Ian and the band from these periods. The quality of this new dvd is very good, both audio as well as visual (although I did catch a few glitches as you did Electrocutes). I am slightly disappointed with the "Out In The Green" footage which is only 4 years after the '82 footage. Ian looks pretty good in '82, and the way I remember him looking from the Slipstream video which I think was around this time, the music is excellent as always as well as the performance, but Ian looks alot older in this footage. I also viewed this section a few times because it was so hard to believe that Ian looked like this. I think some of it was the fault of the person who was operating the close up camera. It was mostly side shots of Ian, up close & extremely personal, which I don't think was a good call. His beard is almost entirely white which looked strange. He would've been around 40, which isn't that old. Guess he was prematurely grey. Ian also seemed to have gained some weight during this time so that didn't help. Martin, on the other hand, seems to have lost a good deal of weight which is good, but he looked alot different too. Guess time does have it's way of wearing us down. It's amazing how much a person's looks can change as they age. I, actually got the most enjoyment out of seeing the earlier footage. Regards, Silken... Well, to the chagrin of Jeff , I got my copy today and will try to give it watch sometime this week. I'm looking forward to the 1982 the most. I had terrible seats for that tour...on the side of the stage - somewhere toward the back. So I never saw the ship, from the front anyway. So hopefully there will be some good shots on this video. I'm surprised to hear how old Ian appeared to you in 1986, and I'm afraid to ask what you think of him now! Hi TM You will not be disappointed watching this video, I'm certain of it. Like most, I am not pleased with Ian's singing of late, but I will always love Tull and probably listen to everything that I have in my collection till the day I die. That my friend, is a given, no matter where Tull of today goes. This video was nicely done and I am happy that I bought it. Enjoy.. Regards, Silken...
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Post by TM on May 28, 2008 19:01:09 GMT
Well, to the chagrin of Jeff , I got my copy today and will try to give it watch sometime this week. I'm looking forward to the 1982 the most. I had terrible seats for that tour...on the side of the stage - somewhere toward the back. So I never saw the ship, from the front anyway. So hopefully there will be some good shots on this video. I'm surprised to hear how old Ian appeared to you in 1986, and I'm afraid to ask what you think of him now! Hi TM You will not be disappointed watching this video, I'm certain of it. Like most, I am not pleased with Ian's singing of late, but I will always love Tull and probably listen to everything that I have in my collection till the day I die. That my friend, is a given, no matter where Tull of today goes. This video was nicely done and I am happy that I bought it. Enjoy.. Regards, Silken... Hmmm....I'd have to say that this one is certainly does not fall into the "must have" category. While the the sound and video quality is very good, this DVD has no production value whatsoever. Some random thoughts... 1982 Dave Pegg reminds me of a character from Shrek. What a mistake it was to have Gerry Conway join Tull. 1986 Rough vocals made it tough to sit through. 1993 Excellent! The blues seem to suit Ian's vocals better then the other styles of music. Ian and the guys looked to be having a great time too.
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Post by fatman on May 29, 2008 14:39:19 GMT
Hi TM You will not be disappointed watching this video, I'm certain of it. Like most, I am not pleased with Ian's singing of late, but I will always love Tull and probably listen to everything that I have in my collection till the day I die. That my friend, is a given, no matter where Tull of today goes. This video was nicely done and I am happy that I bought it. Enjoy.. Regards, Silken... Hmmm....I'd have to say that this one is certainly does not fall into the "must have" category. While the the sound and video quality is very good, this DVD has no production value whatsoever. Some random thoughts... 1982 Dave Pegg reminds me of a character from Shrek. What a mistake it was to have Gerry Conway join Tull. 1986 Rough vocals made it tough to sit through. 1993 Excellent! The blues seem to suit Ian's vocals better then the other styles of music. Ian and the guys looked to be having a great time too. That's the thing, though. Really none of Tull's concert DVDs have fallen into the must have category. That's why I've stopped buying them. Most of what they have released are recent concerts of the diminished Tull and only bits and pieces of the golden era. This one harkens further back, but at a time when Tull were struggling. Why can't there be a full concert DVD of, say, the Aqualung tour or maybe Too Old to Rock and Roll or any of the 70s stuff. Aren't there recordings of those entire shows? Jeff
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Post by admin on Jun 3, 2008 9:04:54 GMT
Pretty good review in this months Classic Rock magazine
Jethro Tull - Jack In The Green
Tull - Tastic!
By the time Jethro Tull released their Broadsword & The Beast album in 1982 they were a stadium band the world over. In Germany that's more or less stayed the case, while everywhere else they've relaxed into 'heritage' mode.
This fantastic live DVD collects various German performances over the years, the bulk centered on the wonderful Broadsword era.
The band may often be overlooked these days, but it's a joy to watch Tull meld metal and rustic folk on the likes of Pussy Willow and hard Times. Elsewhere there's 1970 beat club performances and mid-80s and 1993 live footage, but it's the Broadsword material that really wins
8/10
Jerry Ewing
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Post by admin on Jun 6, 2008 17:53:37 GMT
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Post by ryanwhite on Jul 11, 2008 18:36:12 GMT
Woo hoo, it's here! According to Play.com it was supposed to come out on the 5th so it was a nice surprise to have it drop on my doormat yesterday. I've only had the chance to watch it through once but on the strength of one viewing I'd say...... The rockpop 82 stuff is very familiar to all of you I'm sure as it's done the rounds on youtube but it's nice to see it in decent quality. I could have lived without the keyboard solo and had another proper song from the set but if that's all the footage that exists from that gig then fair enough I suppose. An excellent addition to the Tull catalogue and worth the asking price of the DVD just for this portion. Hunting Girl from Rocksummer 86 is new to me and watched on it's own is fine but coming straight after the 82 set the difference in Ian Andersons voice is startling. Not really filmed that well either and it cuts off rather abruptly too giving the DVD a bit of a cobbled together feel. Which had me a bit worried for the Out In The Green part of the disc but fortunately, although it's from what must have been around the same time, it's much better. Again I'd rather have had another song than Improvisation II which probably worked well in the context of the concert it was from but I don't think will stand up to repeated watching on TV. The rest of the set is top drawer Tull though, nice to hear a different portion of TAAB than usual in the song. The Live 93 stuff is the footage from a german TV show that again can be found on youtube but it's good fun and a worthy addition to this set IMO. And the Beat Club songs you all know too, although I do find the famous/infamous Nothing Is Easy clip a bit of a bizarre way to end the DVD with it's stop start beginning and then fizzling out halfway through with a sick and grumpy looking Ian wandering off. That one should probably been left on the curio shelf. All in all though, a good addition to the Tull collection, although maybe not the best introduction to Tull for the casual fan. nicely packaged too, I like the design of the cover and booklet. The definative Tull DVD is still yet to made, but this one will do nicely in the meantime. Thanks for the review Col. Maybe this is the start of something good from IA. On the old board we used to badger on about Tull issuing old concert footage. Maybe the Headmaster got the message. I know there were some money or rights issues with the other band members but hopefully they will get sorted out. If new fans could see some of the footage from the early 70's, they would see what the fuss is all about. And for geezers like me who were "medicated" during many shows, I might actually see the concert for the first time!
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Post by admin on Jul 15, 2008 8:24:21 GMT
Woo hoo, it's here! According to Play.com it was supposed to come out on the 5th so it was a nice surprise to have it drop on my doormat yesterday. I've only had the chance to watch it through once but on the strength of one viewing I'd say...... The rockpop 82 stuff is very familiar to all of you I'm sure as it's done the rounds on youtube but it's nice to see it in decent quality. I could have lived without the keyboard solo and had another proper song from the set but if that's all the footage that exists from that gig then fair enough I suppose. An excellent addition to the Tull catalogue and worth the asking price of the DVD just for this portion. Hunting Girl from Rocksummer 86 is new to me and watched on it's own is fine but coming straight after the 82 set the difference in Ian Andersons voice is startling. Not really filmed that well either and it cuts off rather abruptly too giving the DVD a bit of a cobbled together feel. Which had me a bit worried for the Out In The Green part of the disc but fortunately, although it's from what must have been around the same time, it's much better. Again I'd rather have had another song than Improvisation II which probably worked well in the context of the concert it was from but I don't think will stand up to repeated watching on TV. The rest of the set is top drawer Tull though, nice to hear a different portion of TAAB than usual in the song. The Live 93 stuff is the footage from a german TV show that again can be found on youtube but it's good fun and a worthy addition to this set IMO. And the Beat Club songs you all know too, although I do find the famous/infamous Nothing Is Easy clip a bit of a bizarre way to end the DVD with it's stop start beginning and then fizzling out halfway through with a sick and grumpy looking Ian wandering off. That one should probably been left on the curio shelf. All in all though, a good addition to the Tull collection, although maybe not the best introduction to Tull for the casual fan. nicely packaged too, I like the design of the cover and booklet. The definative Tull DVD is still yet to made, but this one will do nicely in the meantime. Thanks for the review Col. Maybe this is the start of something good from IA. On the old board we used to badger on about Tull issuing old concert footage. Maybe the Headmaster got the message. I know there were some money or rights issues with the other band members but hopefully they will get sorted out. If new fans could see some of the footage from the early 70's, they would see what the fuss is all about. And for geezers like me who were "medicated" during many shows, I might actually see the concert for the first time! Lol, a misspent youth eh? Good for you!! I do sometimes wonder what IA has lurking in his vaults. I think in some respects he has missed the boat a little with youtube becoming so huge now. There is so much vintage stuff on there already that IA is possibly going to struggle to put together a decent DVD of material we haven't already seen. Of course I'll always put my hand in my pocket for good quality material but I'd like to see stuff I haven't seen before. One way or another this stuff tends to find it's way onto the net so I am guessing that the reason we haven't seen much early 70's stuff is that there isn't actually that much in existance. Which would be a shame.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 2, 2008 17:09:08 GMT
que?
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Post by broadsword on Sept 2, 2008 17:14:26 GMT
What is all this horse crap? Come on Col, get rid of it.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 2, 2008 17:45:40 GMT
Been on the wacky baccy again methinks.
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Post by admin on Sept 2, 2008 20:00:25 GMT
Crap got rid of and user banned. Normal service has been resumed. Sorry about the delay, if this is the start of rather than the end of it I'll be looking for moderator volunteers!
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Post by broadsword on Sept 2, 2008 21:49:36 GMT
Nice one Col, wish my builder I asked to do some tiling for us was as on the ball as you, thanks matey
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Post by admin on Sept 3, 2008 18:51:51 GMT
you're welcome, all part of the service ;D
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 14, 2008 20:31:23 GMT
Finally got Jack in the Green and devoted a free evening to a good watching...kinda mixed feelings...the 1982 stuff is pretty good...is it my machinery or does Pussy Willow distort at proper volume? Good camerawork and very animated, involved Peter Vettesse and nice rock and roll interplay between Pegg, Barre and Doane....but somehow not really fantastic...the 1986 stuff was almost depressing....reminds me of the Milton keynes stuff they showed in the fish special...Ian is tenative, sweaty, seemingly more from stress than exertion and appears to be relieved to get through the songs....compare the Black Sunday to the slipstream version...see? The Beat Club stuff was wonderful...I had never seen it..the complete, perfect, energetic 'With you there' and the authentic, woodshedding, despite ians' frustration 'Nothing is easy' will get many more viewings in the coming days. I really think i got an idea of how unique and intense Tull were in that era...leave it to the Germans to creech on and on about how hard Tull worked! Certainly worth the time and money...when isn't Tull worth it? But I couldn't help wishing it was 1975 or 77 or, just to be fair, 88 or 89. By 88/89 post peak Tull was more pleasurable and acceptable....86, when the contrast of the diminsihed voice and energy are still fresh and painful, seems like a cruel choice to preserve.
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 14, 2008 20:32:26 GMT
Not Doane in 82...Gerry Conway, right? ( I know it was Paul Burgess for part of the tour)
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Post by 3chordtrick on Dec 14, 2008 0:32:55 GMT
There is 70's film out there. For example - Too Old UK TV Special (1975) / UK BBC Sight N Sound In Concert (1977) / Live Madison Sq Gardens Broadcast (1978). All excelent and well worth releasing commercially to the fans.
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Post by Tull50 on Mar 19, 2013 19:59:18 GMT
Jethro Tull Jack In The Green DVD Live In Germany 1970-1993
Musicians: Ian Anderson: vocals, flute, guitar Martin Barre: electric guitar Peter Vettese: keyboard Andrew Giddings: keyboard John Evan: keyboard Gerry Conway: drums Doane Perry: drums Dave Pegg: bass guitar Glenn Cornick: bass guitar
DVD Track list
Rockpop in Concert - 1982: Fallen on Hard Times, Pussy Willow, Heavy Horses, Jack in the Green, Keyboard solo, Sweet Dream, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath, Cheerio.
Rocksummer - 1986: Hunting Girl.
Out in the Green - 1986: Thick as a Brick Black, Sunday Improvisation II, Too Old to Rock and Roll, Too Young to Die.
Live - 1993 My Sunday Feeling, So Much Trouble.
Beat Club 1970/1971 WIth You There to Help Me, Nothing is Easy.
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