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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 26, 2016 18:44:37 GMT
Something from a Zepp Forum... 2008 ROBERT PLANT AND IAN ANDERSON = NO FRIENDS! ZEPP Link Forum's Janis Representative - lzfan715 said: I've heard Jimmy and Robert take cracks at Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson. Some of my favourites: Jethro Dull Jethro Tull Bore "Em At The Forum
And in a blizzard in Canada while looking out the window: If that were cocaine Jethro Tull would be in heaven.
Don't get me wrong I like Jethro Tull I just think that Jimmy and Robert have a good sense of humour.
JethroTull - Zep Head What puzzles me, is that Tull's exceptional drummer Barriemore Barlow was available in 1980. I truly think Zeppelin could have continued on and prospered with Barrie in place of JB.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 26, 2016 19:25:43 GMT
Something from a Zepp Forum... 2008 ROBERT PLANT AND IAN ANDERSON = NO FRIENDS! ZEPP Link lzfan715 said: I've heard Jimmy and Robert take cracks at Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson. Some of my favourites: Jethro Dull Jethro Tull Bore "Em At The Forum
And in a blizzard in Canada while looking out the window: If that were cocaine Jethro Tull would be in heaven.
Don't get me wrong I like Jethro Tull I just think that Jimmy and Robert have a good sense of humour.
Zep Head What puzzles me, is that Tull's exceptional drummer Barriemore Barlow was available in 1980. I truly think Zeppelin could have continued on and prospered with Barrie in place of JB. According to the articles I've read it was a half hearted attempt to go on. They didn't just lose an incredible drummer they lost an integral part of the band and a close friend in such a shocking way. Led Zeppelin Was An Affair Of The Heart Jimmy Page - Rolling Stone www.rollingstone.com/music/features/jimmy-page-led-zeppelin-was-an-affair-of-the-heart-20141028Just a thought - Robert Plant in his hey day must have caused a few lead singers to mutter and criticise perhaps in some cases due to a touch of the green-eyed monster? I mean who really wouldn't have wanted to be Robert Plant in the 70's?
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 26, 2016 19:58:13 GMT
.... it's the 'classic' Stairway to Heaven that intrigues me most. I wonder if Mr Harper introduced them to the compositions of Turlough O'Carolan - a blind Irish harpist from the 17th century? Some time soon, I will dig out and publish on here (if I can master the technology) - a version of one of his bestest tunes... And if you can't sing along with the first and last lines... 'There's a lady that's sure...' and then... 'She's buying a stairway to heaven' to O'Carolan's tune- then I'm a dutchman! It's late now, must go sleep - but I'll look into how the heck I get the sample on here, in the next few days! Then we'll see if anyone else agrees.... I love going through our vaults and old threads like this one - you find gems. Hello Andy - hope all is well! I've finally got round to finding that song you mentioned by Turlough O'Carolan and what a find! I reckon Plant and Page should ask their lawyers to hang around.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 26, 2016 20:19:03 GMT
.... it's the 'classic' Stairway to Heaven that intrigues me most. I wonder if Mr Harper introduced them to the compositions of Turlough O'Carolan - a blind Irish harpist from the 17th century? Some time soon, I will dig out and publish on here (if I can master the technology) - a version of one of his bestest tunes... And if you can't sing along with the first and last lines... 'There's a lady that's sure...' and then... 'She's buying a stairway to heaven' to O'Carolan's tune- then I'm a dutchman! It's late now, must go sleep - but I'll look into how the heck I get the sample on here, in the next few days! Then we'll see if anyone else agrees.... I love going through our vaults and old threads like this one - you find gems. Hello Andy - hope all is well! I've finally got round to finding that song you mentioned by Turlough O'Carolan and what a find! I reckon Plant and Page should ask their lawyers to hang around. Ok... This should settle any courtroom silliness which the descendants of Turlough O'Carolan bring
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Post by dedindi on Sept 16, 2018 9:57:55 GMT
I've finally got round to finding that song you mentioned by Turlough O'Carolan and what a find! agreed, it seems that 'Stairway' is a public domain written in baroque era by harpist O'Carolan The Celtic Baroque roots of Stairway to Heaven
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 30, 2018 7:10:07 GMT
celebrityaccess.com/2018/09/28/back-to-the-courts-for-stairway-to-heaven/Back To The Courts For ‘Stairway To Heaven’Posted on 28 September, 2018, 08:38 pm UTC by Joe Reinartz SAN FRANCISCO (CelebrityAccess) A U.S. appeals court has re-started the battle over who wrote “Stairway To Heaven” – Led Zeppelin or Spirit. Two years ago, a federal court jury ruled that Led Zeppelin did not, for once, borrow or lift music from a previous source without credit. A longtime challenge to the title was resolved when the jury determined that Led Zeppelin wrote the song on its own and did not lift a chord progression from Randy California, the guitarist for Spirit. However, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously today that the lower court judge provided erroneous jury instruction that misled the jury about copyright law, according to CBS News. The judge failed to advise jurors that, while single common scales in a song do not elevate to the status of thievery, various blocks of music, in sequence, that appear similar does. “This error was not harmless as it undercut testimony by Skidmore’s expert that Led Zeppelin copied a chromatic scale that had been used in an original manner,” panel member Judge Richard Paez said. The panel also found another jury instruction misleading, according to CBS News. In the 2016 trial, Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page told the jury that the “Stairway To Heaven” chord progression “has been around forever” and can even be found in the song “Chim Chim Cher-ee” from the movie “Mary Poppins.” Randy California thought that the songs sounded familiar enough for him to get some recognition. “Well, if you listen to the two songs, you can make your own judgment,” California said in an interview with Listener. “It’s an exact… I’d say it was a rip-off. And the guys made millions of bucks on it and never said, “Thank you,” never said, “Can we pay you some money for it?” It’s kind of a sore point with me. Maybe some day their conscience will make them do something about it. I don’t know. There are funny business dealings between record companies, managers, publishers, and artists. But when artists do it to other artists, there’s no excuse for that. I’m mad! [laughs].” The lawsuit was originally filed by Michael Skidmore, a trustee for the estate of California, real name Randy Wolfe. A comparison follows: Some have noted the similarity between Eagles’ “Hotel California” and a song by Jethro Tull called “We Used To Know,” but the latter’s Ian Anderson has always dismissed the similarities.
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Post by JTull 007 on Sept 30, 2018 10:30:32 GMT
LOL!!! "Hotel California" "We Used to Know"
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 30, 2018 15:13:04 GMT
Here we go again! I've changed my mind (see older posts) about all of this. Taurus's 'Spirit' sounds similar to Stairway due to the chord sequence however the way it's played is different Listen to Carolan's song and this from Davy Graham as well - same chord sequence yet different patterns.
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 30, 2018 15:17:22 GMT
Jimmy Page said the same chord sequence is even in 'Chim Chimney'- Mary Poppins, and he's right. And if he wants to thank me for agreeing with him - a tour of his beautiful home will suffice!
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Oct 3, 2018 22:00:08 GMT
Page has been begging Plant for years to do Led Zep stuff with him. But, Plant won't bite as he wants to move forward and do new things. Word is that Page can't deal with it and the only way for him to cope is by farming the Zeppelin catalog, according to Jimmy Page biographer, Chris Salewicz, in a recent interview.
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Post by Budding Stately Hero on Oct 3, 2018 22:12:24 GMT
Something from a Zepp Forum... 2008 ROBERT PLANT AND IAN ANDERSON = NO FRIENDS! ZEPP Link Forum's Janis Representative - lzfan715 said: I've heard Jimmy and Robert take cracks at Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson. Some of my favourites: Jethro Dull Jethro Tull Bore "Em At The Forum
And in a blizzard in Canada while looking out the window: If that were cocaine Jethro Tull would be in heaven.
Don't get me wrong I like Jethro Tull I just think that Jimmy and Robert have a good sense of humour.
JethroTull - Zep Head What puzzles me, is that Tull's exceptional drummer Barriemore Barlow was available in 1980. I truly think Zeppelin could have continued on and prospered with Barrie in place of JB. I was in 9th grade at the time. But, from what I remember reading in (I think) Hit Parader, was that the remaining three agreed that it wouldn't be Led Zeppelin without Bonham. I think Jones was closest to him and I remember reading that Plant and Page didn't attend the funeral. But, I maybe wrong (or old and forgetful).
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