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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 30, 2011 17:50:35 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 30, 2011 21:55:26 GMT
wow some pretty naff 1970's kids TV colours there speaking of naff I just watched the Top of the Pops repeat shows on some channel? this one was 1976 with The Wurzels at No 1 - I had somehow forgotten what kind of rubbish there was going round then and not just the Wurzels. Brotherhood of Man My Sweet Rosealie and they bring on a puppy at the end *boak* oh and Peter Frampton and his gazoo thing (also forgotten how cute he looked) ;D
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 1, 2011 7:49:15 GMT
wow some pretty naff 1970's kids TV colours there Many of the Tull vinyl boots go for quite a lot of wonga on the auction sites, even those which have lo fi sound quality. It's more of an esoteric visual thing with many of them and in these days of CDr's they seem to be collected mainly for the "look" of them. I'd be interested to know what vinyl bootlegs Forum members have or had in the past.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 1, 2011 15:42:48 GMT
I wish i hadn't shipped all my vinyl boots to that guy in Ohio, CBWaltzer, for no return...I could have sold them on e-bay and earned money for an escort via our new friends.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 16, 2011 16:13:57 GMT
I was reading an article last weekend about the possible demise of the minidisc. It's amusing that in this digital age, the ever so 'umble C60/C90 cassette seems to be experiencing something of an upsurge in popularity which then got me thinking about those wonderful Tull boots on cassette which you could buy at record fairs in the 80's with their dubious recording qualities and some wonderful homemade covers.
And I expect many are still around, locked in cupboards etc., even in this day and age where most of the concerts are now of better quality and have found a home on CDr's or hard drives.
Anybody still got any? I'll include the best in the illustrated Jethro Tull book I'm planning to publish in my retirement/dottage.
(wishful thinking - features editor)
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 18, 2011 13:33:25 GMT
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Post by steveharrison on Oct 23, 2011 9:12:48 GMT
is there anywhere where you can download any of these boot covers?im after HQ scans of the waters edge specifically
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Post by hwkn on Jan 26, 2012 18:42:29 GMT
I have a pretty good recording of a show from the LA Coliseum circa 1976 that's worth tracking down.
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Post by 10cars on Jun 23, 2012 13:27:11 GMT
Yes, this is an old classic. But you or somebody else got the date and location wrong. How can it be January 69 and they play My God? More likely Anaheim 19-10-1971.
Cheers 10cars
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 23, 2012 15:26:50 GMT
Yes, this is an old classic. But you or somebody else got the date and location wrong. How can it be January 69 and they play My God? More likely Anaheim 19-10-1971. Cheers 10cars Yes you're correct - 10 points for spotting the original poster's mistake. The confusion could be that there are 2 "Flutecakes" - the cd is from Stockholm 9.1.69 and the vinyl from Anaheim 19.6.71(?)
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Post by bunkerfan on Jun 23, 2012 18:53:17 GMT
Mmmmmmmmmm, Flute Cake
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Post by 10cars on Jun 23, 2012 21:59:27 GMT
Yes, this is an old classic. But you or somebody else got the date and location wrong. How can it be January 69 and they play My God? More likely Anaheim 19-10-1971. Cheers 10cars Yes you're correct - 10 points for spotting the original poster's mistake. The confusion could be that there are 2 "Flutecakes" - the cd is from Stockholm 9.1.69 and the vinyl from Anaheim 19.6.71(?) ...and to make the confusion complete: I made a mistake: it must be 19-10- 1970 not 1971 ...and also not 19-6-71 like you wrote... Oh, yes, ageing is fun.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 24, 2012 7:03:23 GMT
Yes you're correct - 10 points for spotting the original poster's mistake. The confusion could be that there are 2 "Flutecakes" - the cd is from Stockholm 9.1.69 and the vinyl from Anaheim 19.6.71(?) ...and to make the confusion complete: I made a mistake: it must be 19-10- 1970 not 1971 ...and also not 19-6-71 like you wrote... Oh, yes, ageing is fun. Now I'm getting really confused. As you say, "aging is fun" so I'm off for a little lie down.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 24, 2012 7:32:50 GMT
Mmmmmmmmmm, Flute Cake Also as Concert date incorrect on the cover The last two images courtesy of electrocutas From The Ministry: 9/1/69 Konserthuset Stockholm, Sweden Two shows, supporting Jimi Hendrix. Contributed two tracks (To Be Sad Is A Mad Way To Be, Back To The Family) to the '25th Anniversary' box set. First show: Nothing Is Easy or Back To The Family or Dharma For One or Tunnel Of Love or Live My Sunday Feeling, Martin's Tune, To Be Sad Is A Mad Way To Be, Back To The Family, Dharma For One, Nothing Is Easy, A Song For Jeffrey Second show: Flute Cake or The Late Show Set as early show, with 'Dharma for One' after 'Nothing Is Easy'.and 19/10/70 Anaheim Convention Center Anaheim, Ca. USA Flute Cake Nothing Is Easy, My God, With You There To Help Me/By Kind Permission Of..., A Song For Jeffrey, Sossity: You're A Woman/Reasons For Waiting, We Used To Know Incomplete? Anymore versions of these albums out there?
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 25, 2012 0:15:13 GMT
I had the last one shown above.....'traded' it for some customized CD compilations from former member 'CB Waltzer'...never got them...but came across his address the other while looking for something else in my home....letter of enquiry to follow!
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 25, 2012 7:48:57 GMT
I had the last one shown above.....'traded' it for some customized CD compilations from former member 'CB Waltzer'...never got them...but came across his address the other while looking for something else in my home....letter of enquiry to follow! If no reply, we'll send the "heavies" round by order of the management
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Post by tullist on Jun 25, 2012 23:13:18 GMT
Always have to respond when I see that Jan 69 recording simply because it is one of the very best from any year on a couple of accounts. Firstly the sound is astonishingly good and its very easy to see how some of the early assessments of them marked their jazz influence, plenty of swinging by Clive and Glenn on this one. Spot on performance by my estimation, actually available in both an afternoon and evening performance, cool, if short, set list too. They were opening for Jimi Hendrix and it is not too hard to see evidence of what I read somewhere quoting Hendrix as saying he liked following neither the Who or Jethro Tull onstage. Certainly one of the main ten Tull boots to own.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 26, 2012 2:19:27 GMT
The six and violence guy, Kurt, gave me a pretty good review of TAAB2 but added that though he doesn't begrudge Ian surrounding himself with great musicians to do a project like TAAB 2 but misses the days of yore when Tull, according to him, was punker than punk, indier than indy and garagier than garage...just guys who, as he said 'WENT FOR IT' and pulled in disparate influences from blues, rock, jazz, classical music and everything else in the late sixties ether and made incredible music that invariably 'worked' despite rules broken, tempos mangled and instruments played by feel not lesson books......Both Flute Cakes (69 and 70) are from the heart of that era and help me understand what Kurt means by...they just WENT FOR IT.
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Post by tullist on Jun 26, 2012 2:53:30 GMT
By 1970 though, I found often Martin Barre's solo's ran too far afield for his facility at that age, (in live performance that is, Ian kept the ship taught in the studio) though I bet he could come up with something, maybe less improvisational, of ten minutes length in the past 30 years that would be interesting. In 1970 I do not think it was there yet, its a little more contained on the 69 one, but really, the main thing is how good a recording it is. Ditto with John Evan's psuedo classical meanderings, for that, I prefer the real thing, his technique was not advanced enough to be prancing that out, mistakes, unintended one's I suspect, not the Monk kind, abound in things like that bit on LITP. I realize it was a flavor of the age, and one I supported in its time. One of the other one's that come's to mind as essential, after this move I have made cannot be bothered to find the exact date, is from the WarChild tour in winter 75. There was this guy, late of this world, who taped everything that came through Cleveland and other places, and then kept everything to himself, but since his passing, it is out, called the Dan Lapinski tapes I recall. Have a bad feeling I have written the exact same thing under this heading a year ago, or even a month ago. Recordings of that American tour are not that common to begin with and of this quality definitely a stand alone. A step removed from a professional recording, with I think the best first ten minutes of any Tull show. Sadly, though there are plenty of recordings, none of the TAAB or P Play shows come close to this sonic quality, and I believe Tull suffer more than most when something in the soundscape gets f**ked up.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 8, 2012 9:22:42 GMT
Wise Man Breaks Wind - Wolverhampton - 19 March, 1972
Disc One
Disc Two
Published on 28 Apr 2012 by Esferadevidro
From the Ministry: 19/3/72 Civic Hall Wolverhampton, UK
Thick As A Brick (w. flute, organ and drum solos, plus spoken interludes) Cross-Eyed Mary A New Day Yesterday Aqualung Wind-Up (intro only) Locomotive Breath/Hard-Headed English General Wind-Up (reprise)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2012 14:06:47 GMT
I was there witnessing Tull for the first time. I've noticed that there is a few of us here that started with the Brick. Interesting. I'm certainly feeling at home on this forum. Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 8, 2012 17:02:10 GMT
I was there witnessing Tull for the first time. I've noticed that there is a few of us here that started with the Brick. Interesting. I'm certainly feeling at home on this forum. Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think.There's an arguement I suppose that folks buying Tull for the first time with TAAB were first attracted to it by the unique*, though often copied, newspaper cover. That in its self is not a bad thing as the cover and the music went hand in hand. *OK, feel free to post any earlier newspaper covers prior to TAAB
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Post by bunkerfan on Jul 8, 2012 19:18:24 GMT
I was there witnessing Tull for the first time. I've noticed that there is a few of us here that started with the Brick. Interesting. I'm certainly feeling at home on this forum. Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think.There's an arguement I suppose that folks buying Tull for the first time with TAAB were first attracted to it by the unique*, though often copied, newspaper cover. That in its self is not a bad thing as the cover and the music went hand in hand. *OK, feel free to post any earlier newspaper covers prior to TAAB Not sure if this was prior TAAB but this was released in 1972 by John Lennon/Yoko Ono and The Plastic Ono Band.
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Post by tullist on Jul 8, 2012 19:26:48 GMT
There's an arguement I suppose that folks buying Tull for the first time with TAAB were first attracted to it by the unique*, though often copied, newspaper cover. That in its self is not a bad thing as the cover and the music went hand in hand. *OK, feel free to post any earlier newspaper covers prior to TAAB Not sure if this was prior TAAB but this was released in 1972 by John Lennon/Yoko Ono and The Plastic Ono Band. Some old IA interview I have had for decades on cassette he addresses this, apparently John got wind of the cover for TAAB too late after the printing presses had started on his own album, so they stuck with it. IA also spoke of his admiration for John in this interview, less so the Beatles in general. Somewhere, though I don't think it was in this interview, heard or read of John having some admiration for Tull, I would be very surprised if he knew much of them, for all I know his sole exposure was that quirky little blues band who also played on the Stones show.
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Post by tullist on Jul 8, 2012 19:28:18 GMT
That might be Brick's first nearly full performance,(really the first full one being this April past) definitely have it.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 9, 2012 9:35:49 GMT
Not sure if this was prior TAAB but this was released in 1972 by John Lennon/Yoko Ono and The Plastic Ono Band. Some old IA interview I have had for decades on cassette he addresses this, apparently John got wind of the cover for TAAB too late after the printing presses had started on his own album, so they stuck with it. IA also spoke of his admiration for John in this interview, less so the Beatles in general. Somewhere, though I don't think it was in this interview, heard or read of John having some admiration for Tull, I would be very surprised if he knew much of them, for all I know his sole exposure was that quirky little blues band who also played on the Stones show. Think you're correct on this assumption - don't know of any other times that John and Ian might have met except at some celebrity "bash" which Ian says he tries to avoid. Would be an interesting thought though if they had shared a concert at sometime prior to December 1980. And he certainly doesn't rate Paul McCartney: www.cliffordmeth.com/ianandersononwarreligionan.htmMeth: You told me years ago that you felt Linda McCartney’s stance on animal rights was naive and uninformed. How did you regard Paul McCartney’s leadership role in The Concert for New York?
Anderson: I’ve never been a McCartney fan, but it just seems like he’s trying to lay the ghost of Linda and I just don’t understand why he’s going near any of that stuff. His new wife is into the landmine stuff and that seems to me so… I mean, I got an invitation to go to that and I tore it up. I was really quite reviled by being asked to go and do something that is actually all about just giving money to the McCartneys to make them look good. One might almost think that if they manage to change the laws and Arnold [Schwarzenegger] gets to be president that maybe Paul McCartney is going to shoot for Governor of California. I don’t know. Must be some ulterior motive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 14:16:32 GMT
Memories of Maple Leaf Gardens Toronto
The gimmick I liked best was perhaps the most subtle. It was during a Jethro Tull concert in the early '70s, when Tull was touring to promote their album Thick As A Brick. The show was late in starting, as always, so the already-ugly crowd turned homicidal when their chants of 'Tull! Tull! Tull! Tull!' were ignored and--worse--some unannounced opening act took centre stage, alone in the spotlight with an acoustic guitar, playing really cheesy folk songs. This weirdly dressed sissy boy strummed and sang as the crowd rioted, surging forward and pelting the poor bastard with their empties and screaming for 'Tull! TULL! TUULLL!!!' louder than ever. 'Oh, you want to hear Jethro Tull,' the folkie said, as if just then clueing into the cause of the mob's mass hysteria. 'I know one of their songs!' He then actually started playing the acoustic guitar intro to 'Thick As A Brick' an act of sacrilege. Just as the crowd was about to pounce and pound into puree this opening act interloper, he finished the quiet acoustic guitar intro riff and--BOOM!--the stage lights up and the rest of Tull kicked in at full force. The band had been onstage all along hidden by darkness. And this folkie fool that the crowd almost killed was, of course, Tull frontman Ian Anderson himself." - William Burrill -Toronto Star
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 14:24:29 GMT
I was there witnessing Tull for the first time. I've noticed that there is a few of us here that started with the Brick. Interesting. I'm certainly feeling at home on this forum. Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think.There's an arguement I suppose that folks buying Tull for the first time with TAAB were first attracted to it by the unique*, though often copied, newspaper cover. That in its self is not a bad thing as the cover and the music went hand in hand. *OK, feel free to post any earlier newspaper covers prior to TAAB They were handing out copies of the newspaper to unsuspecting people on Yonge St. on the day of the concert. The energy of the band at this concert was an unbelievable sight. I was SOLD on Tull(or is that my soul to Tull) for life right there!
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Post by tullist on Jul 9, 2012 14:47:35 GMT
I would mark that that reviewer is getting his Tull tours mixed up, the one to which he refers occured 4 years later. On the Too Old tour Ian did come out looking ALOT different in that sort of Flash Gordon get up, shorter hair and beard, announced himself as Arnold Stirrup and that he was going to perform some Jethro numbers, and truly many of the people seemed unsure until he got a few seconds into Wondring Aloud. Plus by then crowds had got ALOT rowdier. I can really mark the year 1973 as the year of that change, in some part from underground rock to corporate or classic rock, and I believe the beginning of crowds that had less rich musical veins, and an attraction to more aggressive drugs, particularly cocaine and alcohol and barbituates, also a player I believe in Tull's, to me, welcome decrease in popularity. Will always hold a signigigant part of Tull's original toehold owes a debt to psychedelics. Though I was a fan before the first puff of weed, I saw those bug-eyes of nearly all pupils in the Brick and Play crowd, and they weren't Ian's. "You know you got such dark eyes !" Apologies to the Grateful Dead and Shakedown Street.
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