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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 14, 2018 6:21:27 GMT
None of us, I expect, would be free of some contradictions and embarrassing evolution if our lives were examined via public appearances, interviews and sound bites. How could Ian really keep it all straight and consistent and tied up tight over 50 years of constant interviews, some very in depth, with time to reflect, but most experienced as uninformed bombardment. All growth, all our lives, comes with some self-denunciation of past selves and a large dose of 'I wish I knew then, what I know now". I think Ian is an extraordinary person in so many ways: talent, intellect, taking responsibility, family, charity, integrity...I could go on and on. Some social clumsiness as a younger man or some not quite smoothed edges over a long public life are quite small in comparision to the big picture we can all see. Of course, I am not objective, I am grateful for the music and lyrics that have meant so much for so long. I always tell my kid that I am a deep hippie pacifist...what I don't tell her, is when the chaos starts, there I'll be defending the periphery of the Anderson estate. See you there ? Don't have to be ashamed of that Bernie. I switched on the laptop this morning and caught the awful news about Syria and well . . . I can't really put it all into words except that the warmongers will be having a field day. However my main disappointment today was reading about the passing of Kenya elephant conservationist Daphne Sheldrick, aged 83. Now she would have been someone I'd love to have met during my life's travels. www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43757716Oh, and by the way, I'll be with you manning the gates at Tull Towers. Hope Ian brings us out a cuppa ever so often
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Post by elmsliegirl on Apr 14, 2018 16:21:41 GMT
Conchis said I have the feeling Terry Ellis played a role in encouraging his sense of 'separateness' from others.
Ian and I were disappointed that the record company were not allowing girlfriends on the first American tour. Apart from the understandable financial considerations, separateness seemed to be what happened in those days, to the detriment of many relationships within the music industry. That particular decision was a life changer for me.
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Post by conchis on Apr 14, 2018 16:39:04 GMT
Conchis said I have the feeling Terry Ellis played a role in encouraging his sense of 'separateness' from others. Ian and I were disappointed that the record company were not allowing girlfriends on the first American tour. Apart from the understandable financial considerations, separateness seemed to be what happened in those days, to the detriment of many relationships within the music industry. That particular decision was a life changer for me. Part of the Faustian bargain that so many acts struck in the sixties. To put it in perspective, though, wives and girlfriends tended not to go on the road or come to the workplace in that timeframe. The Beatle wags were all left at home when the Fab Four toured and were barred from the studio (although the band may have wanted it that way). It seems strange now but the other three Beatles were genuinely shocked and appalled when John Lennon brought Yoko Ono to hang out with him at recording sessions. Tull were very much a journeyman band in 1968/69 and the focus was on WORK (Driving Song gives us the lowdown on that). In the Swing In documentary, I.A. speaks about his distaste for groupies and of how he would only want a relationship with 'one person.'
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Post by elmsliegirl on Apr 14, 2018 17:11:06 GMT
Just caught your post conchis. Nice to hear that Ian spoke about his distaste for groupies and how he would only want a relationship with 'one person'. Absolutely true. Considering those days he was pretty straight down the line. A good guiding light. I didn't like what happened to Cynthia Lennon at all. The trouble with those long tours is that we didn't use the phone in those days. So if you were left behind you were cut off. Even letters were too few and far between because bands were worked so hard. Then add the insecurity of youth to the mix. It's amazing how I went along with Ian for so long without groupies being a threat. Fame attracts women like moths to a flame.
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 14, 2018 17:16:41 GMT
Sounds to me like Ian had something better in his life than a one night stand. Give him credit for having the wisdom at that age to take care of himself, mentally and physically, shunning drugs and quickies....surely a big part of why we are lining up to see him perform 50 years later.
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Post by elmsliegirl on Apr 14, 2018 18:24:23 GMT
I think it is pretty amazing that you are still lining up after fifty years. Especially when Ian told me he would probably only last for about ten as a musician. I do have a rather fatherly letter from him telling me to have nothing to do with that flower power stuff and LSD. His wisdom served me well in my life. He was certainly wiser than his years. I liked that he said he wouldn't like to take anything that might make him lose control.
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Post by conchis on Apr 14, 2018 18:46:15 GMT
A thing I find amazing about I.A. - you can watch a youtube interview with him 1969 and one from this year and - though his appearance has chopped and changed over the years - he's still recognisably the same person.
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Post by elmsliegirl on Apr 15, 2018 15:08:45 GMT
Conchis said I feel that IA's songs draw strongly on personal experience, though he makes claim to the contrary.
I too feel that IA songs draw strongly on personal experience. I understand why he makes claims to the contrary and why he had 'nothing to say'.
The Jethro Tull Forum shows what a fortunate life he has had. I wish everyone joy with the 50th anniversary tour. What an achievement !
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 17, 2018 7:12:12 GMT
Can only speak for the early years and I don't recall Ian slagging off band members then either. There was a lot of good, edgy and very memorable humour, from all sides. He had real heartfelt affection for his band mates, especially Jeffrey. Nice to have been part of that for so long. Did he mix with them more in the early days..on tour? The story is that he keeps himself to himself and has done for a long while Maybe some of the reasons it appears IA keeps himself to himself could be the early publicity which Chrysalis put out where IA is portrayed apart from the others. I lay before the court exhibit #1 from October 1969.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 17, 2018 8:10:34 GMT
Did he mix with them more in the early days..on tour? The story is that he keeps himself to himself and has done for a long while Maybe some of the reasons it appears IA keeps himself to himself could be the early publicity which Chrysalis put out where IA is portrayed apart from the others. I lay before the court exhibit #1 from October 1969. 'I like that, I like that very much.' Miss Marple
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Post by bassackwards on Apr 17, 2018 15:47:05 GMT
Maybe some of the reasons it appears IA keeps himself to himself could be the early publicity which Chrysalis put out where IA is portrayed apart from the others. I lay before the court exhibit #1 from October 1969. 'I like that, I like that very much.' Miss Marple Wait just a minute! Is Ian using the "J" for a toilette?
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Post by steelmonkey on Apr 17, 2018 22:20:37 GMT
Well, we all know where the best thinking get done !
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