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Post by wyrdskein on May 22, 2016 11:56:53 GMT
I really enjoyed this book. A lot of it is in the words of band members themselves so you get a good view of how it was. I was surprised that Minstrel in the Gallery, A Passion Play and War Child were considered lesser albums to those made before. Minstrel is my favourite album, and the other two would be well up there in my top 5.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 22, 2016 12:14:42 GMT
I really enjoyed this book. A lot of it is in the words of band members themselves so you get a good view of how it was. I was surprised that Minstrel in the Gallery, A Passion Play and War Child were considered lesser albums to those made before. Minstrel is my favourite album, and the other two would be well up there in my top 5. I must admit that I too enjoyed Brian Rabey's book and it's time for a re-read sometime over the summer. It did get some "stick" in some quarters which I never fully understood but I found it well written and thought provoking - as I mentioned a re-read is definately in order.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 23, 2016 9:49:57 GMT
Thanks for reminding me to get this book.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 23, 2016 9:50:59 GMT
It's unavailable on Amazon as 'import' can you still buy it if it has a dollar sign?
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Post by maddogfagin on May 23, 2016 10:28:53 GMT
It's unavailable on Amazon as 'import' can you still buy it if it has a dollar sign? I reckon your best bet is a on ebay via a UK seller - I've just looked and there are plenty of copies available at various prices from 12 - 30 Pounds
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Post by nonrabbit on May 23, 2016 10:34:19 GMT
It's unavailable on Amazon as 'import' can you still buy it if it has a dollar sign? I reckon your best bet is a on ebay via a UK seller - I've just looked and there are plenty of copies available at various prices from 12 - 30 Pounds I forgot about Ebay - thank you!
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Post by nonrabbit on May 25, 2016 8:40:20 GMT
My lovely son has just bought this book for me now that could mean three things; 1. He looks at this Forum. 2. He's getting into Tull - unlikely since his passion is mainly electronic dance music! 3. Another (bloody) birthday has come round again. I'll get back on what I think of it.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 25, 2016 8:56:02 GMT
My lovely son has just bought this book for me now that could mean three things; 1. He looks at this Forum. 2. He's getting into Tull - unlikely since his passion is mainly electronic dance music! 3. Another (bloody) birthday has come round again.I'll get back on what I think of it. Many Happy Returns Of The Day Pattie
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Post by steelmonkey on May 25, 2016 16:48:04 GMT
You remain eternally girlish and youthful to me. Happy Birthday.
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Post by JTull 007 on May 26, 2016 2:44:49 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on May 26, 2016 7:00:33 GMT
You remain eternally girlish and youthful to me. Happy Birthday. That's what I say into the mirror every morning
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Post by nonrabbit on May 26, 2016 7:01:51 GMT
Thank you very much for the birthday wishes xx
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Post by nonrabbit on May 26, 2016 7:08:14 GMT
Now back on thread - I'm only up to the John Evan Band chapter and I'm enjoying it. I'm new to the world of Tull books ( believe it's not a big world?) and I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it though for the band members recollections and Evans and Hammond have some funny stories - Jehovah's witness and the less than good trumpet player, sadly with only one lung.
Wondering how much research Rabey himself put in to the book? I shall see.
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Post by wyrdskein on May 28, 2016 13:44:28 GMT
There's a funny bit at the beginning where John Evans is talking about his time in Blackpool: "I remember when the first Chinese restaurant opened in Blackpool, it must have been in the very early sixties about three miles from my house. In the evening after school, we used to walk there and stand outside hoping to see a Chinese person, because we had never seen one before... "
How times change.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 28, 2016 16:00:49 GMT
Similar memory of first Chinese place in provinical Denver ca: 1963. The menu included 'Chop Suey' and 'Egg Foo Yung'....where did those dishes go over the years ?
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Post by nonrabbit on May 28, 2016 19:39:34 GMT
I liked growing up in a large city for the cultural mix and the food from different parts of the world. In Glasgow we always had Italian cafe's,the first Chinese restaurant opened in 1948 and the first Indian one in the early 60's. It was students at first who frequented them and then the locals got the taste. Nothing really fazed me when I went to London in 1972 except seeing a gay couple holding hands in public - didn't see that in Glasgow then.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 28, 2016 23:11:53 GMT
According to Hammond (in the book) this was the song (1961) that influenced Ian and the 7/4 timing.
And what a song.
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Post by futureshock on May 29, 2016 1:14:20 GMT
On the Brubeck tune Unsquare Dance......... Counting with my fingers, the bar restarts at 4.5 beats, a half-note before a normal 4/4 bar would start, so it's like 7/8 on a surfboard, possibly 4/4 at a bank holdup, having a heart fibrillation, possibly 9/8 on a trampoline with a low ceiling, probably not 2/4 at all, even in low gravity unless it's using retarder brakes and electric shock therapy on a dancer with a trick knee who was injured trying a double axel dismount off a 9/5 into a shallow pool. If it's 11/3, I'm going back to bluegrass for retraining.
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Post by rredmond on Nov 13, 2017 16:16:37 GMT
Well it pays to check the shoutbox chat thingie every so often. I'm gonna have to get this book I see. --Ron--
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Post by maddogfagin on Nov 14, 2017 9:26:13 GMT
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Post by bunkerfan on Nov 14, 2017 14:09:41 GMT
Well it pays to check the shoutbox chat thingie every so often. I'm gonna have to get this book I see. --Ron-- It's also a very good read while on holiday Ron. As I found out for myself
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Post by steelmonkey on Nov 14, 2017 22:39:05 GMT
This book was a pleasure to read. New information and insight at this late date was much appreciated.
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Post by rabey on Sept 20, 2018 5:21:13 GMT
Now back on thread - I'm only up to the John Evan Band chapter and I'm enjoying it. I'm new to the world of Tull books ( believe it's not a big world?) and I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it though for the band members recollections and Evans and Hammond have some funny stories - Jehovah's witness and the less than good trumpet player, sadly with only one lung. Wondering how much research Rabey himself put in to the book? I shall see.
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Post by rabey on Sept 20, 2018 5:52:51 GMT
That's a peculiar question. I know from a recent review of the Rees book by an AND booster, he believes every authour of a book on Tull copied their research from the AND fanzine - he states this in his second review of the book. An odd thing to have done since he reviewed it when it was first released, why a second one years after going out of print? I guess that was to put us all in our places, lol. I actually ordered a copy back when they first began -long lost - then a fan I encountered after my book was written thought he was doing me a favour by lending me several later copies, but I assure you I first met Ian and Martin during their '78 tour and did the first of many interviews with them the day after their concert here, a Saturday afternoon off for them. So I had been doing interviews with them a decade before AND began. I keep 40 years of interviews with musicians from both Andersons to Zappa in 2 metal cases. BR.
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Post by rabey on Sept 20, 2018 5:59:07 GMT
This book was a pleasure to read. New information and insight at this late date was much appreciated. Thank you. BR.
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Post by rabey on Sept 20, 2018 6:08:54 GMT
There's a funny bit at the beginning where John Evans is talking about his time in Blackpool: "I remember when the first Chinese restaurant opened in Blackpool, it must have been in the very early sixties about three miles from my house. In the evening after school, we used to walk there and stand outside hoping to see a Chinese person, because we had never seen one before... " How times change. I did that interview with John from my dentist's office, he had a very strict schedule for some reason. The second interview was done at 2AM EST, 7AM for him - both really good interviews. If anybody knows how to reach John I've been trying to find him in Australia for some time now. I'd appreciate a heads-up via Facebook.
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Post by bunkerfan on Sept 20, 2018 10:45:09 GMT
There's a funny bit at the beginning where John Evans is talking about his time in Blackpool: "I remember when the first Chinese restaurant opened in Blackpool, it must have been in the very early sixties about three miles from my house. In the evening after school, we used to walk there and stand outside hoping to see a Chinese person, because we had never seen one before... " How times change. I did that interview with John from my dentist's office, he had a very strict schedule for some reason. The second interview was done at 2AM EST, 7AM for him - both really good interviews. If anybody knows how to reach John I've been trying to find him in Australia for some time now. I'd appreciate a heads-up via Facebook. Hi Brian I hope you manage to contact John and if you do would you kindly let us in on any future interviews. Thanks John/bunkerfan
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 21, 2018 22:34:00 GMT
Funny how similar thing were across the wide world back in the sixties, In Denver. probably a perfect provincial analogy to Blackpool in size and isolation. My memory is not of anything like seeing an authentic Chinese person...we had, after all, a few 'Orientals' at my school...what I remember is that the menu, in contrast to the typical small phone book of choices 1 thru 1000 characteristic of Chinese restaurants worldwide nowdays, had exactly three choices. You could have: Chop Suey, Egg Foo Young or the combination plate: Chop Suey with Egg Foo Young.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 21, 2018 22:38:57 GMT
Can I have a peek in the interview metal cases for my next birthday. I bet it is an amazing treasure trove of real rock and roll history. Drop us a few hints? Some of the rockers I am interested in are not the most well known, but among the most articulate like Eric Burdon, Randy California (RIP) and John Cippolina (RIP). It seems like the more famous figures are more likely to have stock answers, like politicians but if you catch a character like, say Ginger Baker or Hugh Cornwell by surprise you might get an authentic, impassioned response.
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Post by rabey on Jan 6, 2019 5:03:50 GMT
To address the question of how much research went into the book, I doubt once I discovered Tull in 1970 It never stopped, but on a pro level, I began interviewing Ian and Martin in '78 then a full year was spent doing interviews with the other guys and maybe 6 months more with Ian before doing the first draft, so if there are gaps it was due to certain band members refusing to be interviewed, editing problems on the other end and a hurried deadline once the original publisher had left it to linger, but a sudden offer from Soundcheck arrived to bring it up to date and get it out far too quickly for my liking, but publishing is a strange kettle of fish especially since the internet arrived as I have written for over 60 periodicals since '78 and I watched 21 close in a one year period at one point, so the fact it got done was due to a lot of perseverance. Thanks for your kind words, I hope to get a 2nd edition out as well as an audio version as the number of interviews that just didn't fit is huge.
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