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Post by maddogfagin on May 24, 2015 10:01:10 GMT
I didn't admire Neil's guitar playing until I learned guitar and studied his style. There is genius there for sure, but his sound is not to everyone's liking. I happen to think his raunchy guitar sound defines him. Moreover, given the length and quality of his his career, he has written more incredible licks than Jimmy Page and Brian May combined. I have to respectfully disagree with your last sentence.
*Silly middle part deleted*
Also, it seems we've (I've) strayed very far from the OP and turned the thread into a discussion about guitar playing. Like Anakin Skywalker, I'm becoming the very thing I set out to rain my wrath upon! Arrghhhhh! Foiled again!
It happens to us all Your observation about their borrowing of songs/styles etc [my wording] is correct and well known about. However look on it this way: if you go back to the original if you can find it on youtube or legal download then, as in my case, you can often hear something infinitely better and a more honest recording. While I rate Zeps version, this I find superb. Kansas Joe McCoy and Memphis Minnie When the Levee Breaks - Famous 1927 Mississippi River Flood Published on Oct 3, 2013 - alchemy920
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Post by karma41 on May 24, 2015 16:23:00 GMT
My point was that Neil has been doing for decades what the other two did for a relatively short period of time and maybe the word "licks" was perhaps a poor choice of words. It was very late when I made the post (what's the emoji for slightly embarrassed . Obviously the merits of a particular musician is completely subjective one and can too often lead to futile arguments which was not my intent.
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Post by onewhiteduck on May 24, 2015 21:27:55 GMT
ST Davids Hall - Cardiff - Review of 40th Anniversary Tour (South Wales Echo).
This critic got it spot on - Tull were on fire - brilliant show.
"GIVEN their apparent reputation among the general public as fol-de-rol, fiddle-de-dee minstrels, it might seem strange to the uninitiated that Jethro Tull rock like maniacs.
But mixing folk sounds and rock has been the group's trademark for a large part of their long history, from their early days in jazz'n'blues clubs to their later million-selling years, and all of the band's eras were on display in this 40th anniversary concert.
In front of a backdrop of archive pictures and newspaper cuttings, Tull kicked the night off by recreating their early blues sound in ferocious style.
Their most recent visit to Cardiff was part of an acoustic tour, but last night the mandolins and violins were left at home and the guitars were turned right up to 11.
From a pounding Living In The Past to a version of A NewDay Yesterday that almost threatened to bring the roof in, all five ace musicians were on fierce form.
Leader Ian Anderson had promised plenty of "big bad noise" and the band fully delivered, with the crowd lapping up every note of many songs that had not been aired here for years, including a beautiful rendition of the obscure Nursie.
The pace and passion only increased as they moved into the '70s and '80s in the second half, until they pulled out all the stops for awe-inspiring renditions of the classics Aqualung and Locomotive Breath.
With power like this, it would be little surprise if they were still rocking in another 40 years!"
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on May 24, 2015 21:45:17 GMT
My point was that Neil has been doing for decades what the other two did for a relatively short period of time and maybe the word "licks" was perhaps a poor choice of words. It was very late when I made the post (what's the emoji for slightly embarrassed . Obviously the merits of a particular musician is completely subjective one and can too often lead to futile arguments which was not my intent. No problem, karma. As you say, our response to music is too subjective and personal for any arguments about who's better to be anything but futile. We all hear things differently. I can really get into Neil Young if I am in a particular frame of mind, especially songs like Sugar Mountain and Cinnamon Girl, which are examples of just how brilliant he could be. I also really like his most recent stuff, his most raw and garage-y music to date I think.
No need for the embarrassed emoji. In fact, I regret having strayed so far off the topic and getting my panties in a wad.
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Post by karma41 on May 25, 2015 0:17:23 GMT
My point was that Neil has been doing for decades what the other two did for a relatively short period of time and maybe the word "licks" was perhaps a poor choice of words. It was very late when I made the post (what's the emoji for slightly embarrassed . Obviously the merits of a particular musician is completely subjective one and can too often lead to futile arguments which was not my intent. No problem, karma. As you say, our response to music is too subjective and personal for any arguments about who's better to be anything but futile. We all hear things differently. I can really get into Neil Young if I am in a particular frame of mind, especially songs like Sugar Mountain and Cinnamon Girl, which are examples of just how brilliant he could be. I also really like his most recent stuff, his most raw and garage-y music to date I think.
No need for the embarrassed emoji. In fact, I regret having strayed so far off the topic and getting my panties in a wad.
Thank you backdoor. That's why I love this forum. People are intelligent, polite, and a joy to interact with. I haven't heard Neil's recent work. Can you recommend a good 'recent' Neil Young album ?
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on May 25, 2015 5:16:45 GMT
No problem, karma. As you say, our response to music is too subjective and personal for any arguments about who's better to be anything but futile. We all hear things differently. I can really get into Neil Young if I am in a particular frame of mind, especially songs like Sugar Mountain and Cinnamon Girl, which are examples of just how brilliant he could be. I also really like his most recent stuff, his most raw and garage-y music to date I think.
No need for the embarrassed emoji. In fact, I regret having strayed so far off the topic and getting my panties in a wad.
Thank you backdoor. That's why I love this forum. People are intelligent, polite, and a joy to interact with. I haven't heard Neil's recent work. Can you recommend a good 'recent' Neil Young album ? I checked out a few songs from Le Noise a while back. It was very raw, uncooked, garage-y. Some of the most elemental music I've heard from an artist. Reminded me of some of the cruder Lou Reed stuff I heard many years ago...but don't quote me on that. I'm just throwing out impressions. By the way, I think I "liked" a few of your songs on SoundCloud, if my detective work was correct.
**I guess Le Noise isn't all that recent. I thought it was newer.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 25, 2015 20:12:25 GMT
I have been told 'Psychedelic Pill' is amazing and has a few classic Neil Young masterpieces...haven't investigated yet. Older than LeNoise but still 'recent' in the BIG picture of Neil Young is 'Greendale' which I think is amongst his best EVER...but many Neil Young fans disagree...A song named 'Carmichael' is equal to 'Cortez the killer' and a song called 'Bandit' would have fit on 'On The Beach. I thoroughly disliked 'Are You Passionate' and 'Fork in the Road'. I do like LeNoise.
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Post by karma41 on May 26, 2015 17:15:41 GMT
Thank you backdoor. That's why I love this forum. People are intelligent, polite, and a joy to interact with. I haven't heard Neil's recent work. Can you recommend a good 'recent' Neil Young album ? I checked out a few songs from Le Noise a while back. It was very raw, uncooked, garage-y. Some of the most elemental music I've heard from an artist. Reminded me of some of the cruder Lou Reed stuff I heard many years ago...but don't quote me on that. I'm just throwing out impressions. By the way, I think I "liked" a few of your songs on SoundCloud, if my detective work was correct.
**I guess Le Noise isn't all that recent. I thought it was newer.
Thanks BDA. I'll check out Le Noise. Glad you likes the soundcloud songs, just wondering how you found me.
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Post by FrontDoorAngel on May 26, 2015 20:56:49 GMT
I checked out a few songs from Le Noise a while back. It was very raw, uncooked, garage-y. Some of the most elemental music I've heard from an artist. Reminded me of some of the cruder Lou Reed stuff I heard many years ago...but don't quote me on that. I'm just throwing out impressions. By the way, I think I "liked" a few of your songs on SoundCloud, if my detective work was correct.
**I guess Le Noise isn't all that recent. I thought it was newer.
Thanks BDA. I'll check out Le Noise. Glad you likes the soundcloud songs, just wondering how you found me. That's a good question, as I don't remember. Short term memory is all but gone for me. I imagine I followed a few leads and/or a few linkies, and took an educated guess, or half-arsed guess and got lucky.
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