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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 17, 2015 17:14:57 GMT
which I think will be;
"Homage" (arts), an allusion or imitation by one artist to another; "Homage" (feudal), the medieval oath of allegiance; Commendation ceremony; "Homage" Special honour or respect shown publicly.
I reckon Mr A feels a bit guilty that his use of the name JT overpowers the original - the pioneering agriculturist from the Shire of Berk that he had to sit down an write a "quasi" opera (?)
Fair play, however he should also and he probably has,see that he shares more than the name with the agriculturist.
" Tull became ill with a pulmonary disorder and travelled to Europe in search of a cure. He was for a considerable period at Montpellier in the south of France"
Mr Anderson - DVT and the French tapes
" In his travels, Tull found himself seeking more knowledge of agriculture. Influenced by the early Age of Enlightenment, he is considered to be one of the early proponents of a scientific (and especially empirical) approach to agriculture"
Mr Anderson was there at the start of salmon farming
" Tull readily adduced the fact in favour of his own favourite theory: that manuring soil is an unnecessary operation"
Mr Anderson takes no s*it
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Post by bassackwards on Feb 17, 2015 17:19:53 GMT
..which I think it will be. "Homage" (arts), an allusion or imitation by one artist to another; "Homage" (feudal), the medieval oath of allegiance; Commendation ceremony; "Homage" Special honour or respect shown publicly. I reckon Mr A feels bit a guilty that his use of the name JT overpowers the original -the pioneering agriculturist from the Shire of Berk, that he had to sit down an write a "quasi" opera (?) Fair play, however he should also and he probably has, see that he shares more than the name with the agriculturist. "Tull became ill with a pulmonary disorder and travelled to Europe in search of a cure. He was for a considerable period at Montpellier in the south of France" Mr A DVT and the French tapes" In his travels, Tull found himself seeking more knowledge of agriculture. Influenced by the early Age of Enlightenment, he is considered to be one of the early proponents of a scientific (and especially empirical) approach to agriculture" Mr A was there at the start of salmon farming" Tull readily adduced the fact in favour of his own favourite theory: that manuring soil is an unnecessary operation" Mr A takes no s*itNice!
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Post by ash on Feb 17, 2015 18:45:49 GMT
I think Ian is being very clever here by mixing old material with a few new pieces he is keeping all parties happy . I will keeping a close eye out for tour dates and Mr plastic close to hand. Well seeing as I live about 10 miles from the Birth place of Mr Jethro Tull it seems rude not to go.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 17, 2015 22:42:40 GMT
He's a seed-drill wizard There's got to be a thrill A seed-drill wizard S' got a 'orse drawn drill.
or is it just me?
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 17, 2015 22:55:59 GMT
Very surprised if Ryan's not in it he's got a least one rock opera under his belt. i57.images obliterated by tinypic/jjmemw.jpg[/IMG] " I am a man who looks after (the soil) Usually I get along OK I am a man who reveals all he digs Should be more careful what I say" adapted from The Dirty Jobs Quadrophenia
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Post by morthoron on Feb 18, 2015 0:33:52 GMT
*sighs*
Am I the only one who finds it absolutely painful to listen to Ian sing anything pre-1983? I get embarrassed for the man struggling. I think the only way I'll ever go see such an event is if some of the original band members return (or even Dave Pegg!); otherwise, it is not worth hearing Ian wheezing and groaning through Aqualung, and particularly with this latest band of his.
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Post by bassackwards on Feb 18, 2015 2:14:32 GMT
*sighs* Am I the only one who finds it absolutely painful to listen to Ian sing anything pre-1983? I get embarrassed for the man struggling. I think the only way I'll ever go see such an event is if some of the original band members return (or even Dave Pegg!); otherwise, it is not worth hearing Ian wheezing and groaning through Aqualung, and particularly with this latest band of his. Yes
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Post by bassackwards on Feb 18, 2015 2:29:52 GMT
*sighs* Am I the only one who finds it absolutely painful to listen to Ian sing anything pre-1983? I get embarrassed for the man struggling. I think the only way I'll ever go see such an event is if some of the original band members return (or even Dave Pegg!); otherwise, it is not worth hearing Ian wheezing and groaning through Aqualung, and particularly with this latest band of his. Yes Actuallly, I wonder why you complain so (on both my favorite forums). Ian had a much harder Time singing in much of the 80s and 90s. Eyes bulging hardly able to emit a sound. Still, there was ,and is, for most of us I believe much to enjoy at the concerts. Who, and why,are u trying so strenuously to convince others of our folly?
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Post by morthoron on Feb 18, 2015 2:35:46 GMT
Actuallly, I wonder why you complain so (on both my favorite forums). Ian had a much harder Time singing in much of the 80s and 90s. Eyes bulging hardly able to emit a sound. Still, there was ,and is, for most of us I believe much to enjoy at the concerts. Who, and why,are u trying so strenuously to convince others of our folly? You have every right to indulge in fantasy, whether hallucinogen-induced or congenital. I simply have had enough of listening to poor live renditions, particularly with remixes available of a far greater epoch, both vocally and band-wise, readily available.
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Post by bassackwards on Feb 18, 2015 3:26:07 GMT
Actuallly, I wonder why you complain so (on both my favorite forums). Ian had a much harder Time singing in much of the 80s and 90s. Eyes bulging hardly able to emit a sound. Still, there was ,and is, for most of us I believe much to enjoy at the concerts. Who, and why,are u trying so strenuously to convince others of our folly? You have every right to indulge in fantasy, whether hallucinogen-induced or congenital. I simply have had enough of listening to poor live renditions, particularly with remixes available of a far greater epoch, both vocally and band-wise, readily available. Well,I guess it's quite interesting and important for some of us to know how dissatisfied you are for the 20th time. And as you say if you have simply had enough why not keep the simple theme and simply get over it?
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Post by Essan on Feb 18, 2015 13:22:30 GMT
Well I cant wait The last 2 tours (TAAB2 & HE) have been a revelation and with Ryan sharing the singing duties it is clear that Ian has been enjoying himself much more. The vocals have been much better than the previous few Tull concerts I went to. Looking forward to hearing my fav Heavy Horses reworked, as well as Wind Up and Witches Promises, neither of which I think I've heard before. Given some new material and some lyric changes to old songs, I wonder if this also means a new CD? A studio version of the whole 'rock opera' perhaps?
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Post by morthoron on Feb 18, 2015 18:21:58 GMT
You have every right to indulge in fantasy, whether hallucinogen-induced or congenital. I simply have had enough of listening to poor live renditions, particularly with remixes available of a far greater epoch, both vocally and band-wise, readily available. Well,I guess it's quite interesting and important for some of us to know how dissatisfied you are for the 20th time. And as you say if you have simply had enough why not keep the simple theme and simply get over it? I have no interest in walking in goose-step with the IaNazis. I'll say what I please until the forum name changes from " Jethro Tull" to " Ian Anderson Fanboy Central". There was once a band called Jethro Tull that came out with some of the greatest albums ever. I contend it was not made up of one person.
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Post by bassackwards on Feb 18, 2015 18:39:53 GMT
Well,I guess it's quite interesting and important for some of us to know how dissatisfied you are for the 20th time. And as you say if you have simply had enough why not keep the simple theme and simply get over it? I have no interest in walking in goose-step with the IaNazis. I'll say what I please until the forum name changes from " Jethro Tull" to " Ian Anderson Fanboy Central". There was once a band called Jethro Tull that came out with some of the greatest albums ever. I contend it was not made up of one person. I am simply offering my opinions and asking questions. You are entitled to yours, of course. But you are not simply adding to the discourse when you imply I am a Nazi or have some congenital defect. I will say no more to you as I have too much respect for this forum and the very good people here, I know escalating this to name calling is beneath what we are about and serves no good purpose.
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Post by morthoron on Feb 18, 2015 19:38:26 GMT
I have no interest in walking in goose-step with the IaNazis. I'll say what I please until the forum name changes from " Jethro Tull" to " Ian Anderson Fanboy Central". There was once a band called Jethro Tull that came out with some of the greatest albums ever. I contend it was not made up of one person. I am simply offering my opinions and asking questions. You are entitled to yours, of course. But you are not simply adding to the discourse when you imply I am a Nazi or have some congenital defect. I will say no more to you as I have too much respect for this forum and the very good people here, I know escalating this to name calling is beneath what we are about and serves no good purpose. Here's a thought, offer your opinion and don't question mine. You can dance all about this forum singing praises and hosannas and I will never reply to them, negatively or otherwise.
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Post by bunkerfan on Feb 18, 2015 20:12:42 GMT
I am simply offering my opinions and asking questions. You are entitled to yours, of course. But you are not simply adding to the discourse when you imply I am a Nazi or have some congenital defect. I will say no more to you as I have too much respect for this forum and the very good people here, I know escalating this to name calling is beneath what we are about and serves no good purpose. Here's a thought, offer your opinion and don't question mine. You can dance all about this forum singing praises and hosannas and I will never reply to them, negatively or otherwise. All you need is love as tootull says.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 20:20:45 GMT
Oh boy! Here with love on the inside, outside hate so far away. Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game It's easy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 20:26:41 GMT
Here's a thought, offer your opinion and don't question mine. You can dance all about this forum singing praises and hosannas and I will never reply to them, negatively or otherwise. All you need is love as tootull says. HEY! I've got info! YOU WANT INFO - BEHAVE! Came down from the Canadian skies to cry you a song for crying out loud.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 20:38:59 GMT
I am simply offering my opinions and asking questions. You are entitled to yours, of course. But you are not simply adding to the discourse when you imply I am a Nazi or have some congenital defect. I will say no more to you as I have too much respect for this forum and the very good people here, I know escalating this to name calling is beneath what we are about and serves no good purpose. Here's a thought, offer your opinion and don't question mine. You can dance all about this forum singing praises and hosannas and I will never reply to them, negatively or otherwise. Made me post this. Jesus Christ Superstar ROCK OPERA.
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 18, 2015 21:15:51 GMT
There was once a band called Jethro Tull that came out with some of the greatest albums ever. I contend it was not made up of one person. Correct... It was Ian Anderson with Mick Abrahams, Clive Bunker, Glenn Cornick, Tony Iommi, Martin Barre, John Evans, Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond, Barriemore Barlow, John Glascock, Tony Williams, Mark Craney, Eddie Jobson, Dave Pegg, Peter-John Vettese, Doane Perry, Gerry Conway, Paul Burgess, David Palmer, Dave Mattacks, Don Airey, Martin Allcock, Jonathan Noyce, Andrew Giddings, David Goodier, John O'Hara, Florian Opahle, Mark Mondesir, Steve Bailey, James Duncan, Scott Hammond ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jethro_Tull_(band)
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Post by bunkerfan on Feb 19, 2015 20:39:42 GMT
I can't really understand why Ryan isn't mentioned on the promotion poster as he's been a real boost to Ian's band in the TAAB 1 & 2 plus HE concerts. Surely he can't be on of the "virtual guests"?
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 19, 2015 21:35:52 GMT
I neither can understand the lack of Ryan in the band. Without Ryan this band is not the same, Ian can not sing (he not even noticed?) himself said that Ryan was on 2014 tour for the good reception from the fans, I would say that by request of fans I know that certain promoters have required the presence of Ryan at concerts. If confirmed, the non-presence of Ryan on this tour the presence of fans may decrease substantially. Perhaps the virtual guests will sing the songs? * Maybe I've exceeded a little, but that's because I consider Ryan essential in this band as much as any of current IA / Tull musicians
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 19, 2015 21:49:14 GMT
I can't really understand why Ryan isn't mentioned on the promotion poster as he's been a real boost to Ian's band in the TAAB 1 & 2 plus HE concerts. Surely he can't be one of the "virtual guests"? I would hope Ryan is a part of every show in the future, he has a real charisma and talent. Possibly this is something Ian wants to do in ways yet to be determined. We shall see.
On a serious note... I want to say the unfriendly hyperbole expressed earlier on this thread is wrong. I was going to quote some of it but it does not need repeating.
Jerry (Bassackwards) is a TULL FAN We all are members of The Jethro TULL Forum.
When there are disagreements about music quality and live performances, why use anger and insults?
We all have favorite albums and some feel Jethro TULL is buried for good. Fine. But using personal attacks to make a point is not a civil or adult way to respond.
I've been accused of many things in the past and I try to ignore those who still hold a grudge. My love of Ian Anderson TULL makes some people angry. They want me to be more cynical.
When I hear Ian play his music and sing, it gives me more pleasure today than when I was 16. If some don't like what happened to Martin Barre, talk to all the other former members since '68. Ian has his own desires and does not owe anyone a thing although I would like another new album.
His vocals are not perfect and when Ryan sings it gives the music a new dimension and style. When he changed the Set List for some countries I was not happy. However, it still works for me! Let's try to have less anger and more constructive criticism without personal insults.
P.S. I agree with Jerry that Ian Anderson is a GENIUS... Peace, Love, TULL
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Post by Tull50 on Feb 19, 2015 22:03:08 GMT
Of course I agree with Jim, wise words of a wise man
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Post by onewhiteduck on Feb 19, 2015 22:10:20 GMT
Swearing does not make an argument valid - it just tells the other person you have lost your class and control.
Oh b*****s that's me f**ked then.
OneFreeThinkingDuck
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Post by JTull 007 on Feb 20, 2015 1:26:57 GMT
Holy Aqualung vs Billion Dollar Babies! Boston Rock Opera "My God" OMG Link
Boston — Boston Rock Opera will present original stagings of the classic rock albums Aqualung (by Jethro Tull) and Billion Dollar Babies (by Alice Cooper) Saturday, April 20, 2002 at the Middle East Downstairs. The two performances, which will be presented back to back twice during the evening at 9pm and then again at 11pm, are the first of what we hope will be a continuing series celebrating “important” albums in the history of rock and roll.
8-)Aqualung features John Surette in the title role with Mick Maldonado, Chris Mascara, Bo Barringer,Melissa Wells (on flute), Carol Namkoong and BRO newcomers Ivory and Danny Cap (from The Electrolytes).
The 1971 concept album, peppered with equal parts schizophrenia, religious angst and lust, is considered by many to be Jethro Tull’s quintessential work. It contains the classic hard rock hits “Aqualung,” “Cross-Eyed Mary” and “Locomotive Breath” as well as the suite of religious themed songs (“My God,” “Hymn 43,” “Wind-up”) interspersed with beautiful acoustic interludes. The album will be presented theatrically.
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Post by onewhiteduck on Feb 20, 2015 15:50:29 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 25, 2015 14:45:12 GMT
Back to the original meaning of the thread... Just thought of the next opera and it's theme if this one is successful. Phantom Of The Band And His Passion i60.images obliterated by tinypic/35cobpv.gif[/IMG] i61.images obliterated by tinypic/2dujxc9.jpg[/IMG] i58.images obliterated by tinypic/ayrtio.jpg[/IMG] PlotFlute playing rock musician Ian triumphs at the gala on the night of the "Ian Anderson with Friends Who May Or May Not Be Appearing Live" concert at the Royal Opera. His old friend and past guitarist Martin,hears his flute playing and recalls his love for Ian. At this time, there are rumours of a phantom (Martin) living at the Opera and he makes himself known to the managers through Blogs and tweets and malevolent acts. Some time after the gala, Ian and his virtual band performs Aqualung, with the prima donna Florian playing the lead, against the Phantom's(Martin's) wishes. During the performance, Florian breaks a string and the grand chandelier plummets into the audience.......* *not strictly true. that post would have been a hell of a lot shorter if only I could photoshop a pic of Martin with half a mask and a cloak.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 26, 2015 17:22:58 GMT
He's a seed-drill wizard There's got to be a thrill A seed-drill wizard S' got a 'orse drawn drill.or is it just me? Ever since I was a young boy, I've used a horse-drawn hoe. From Bradfield down to Basildon, The fields I've sowed them all. But I ain't seen anything like it In allotment or in field That agricultural pioneer He sure has a mean seed drill[cue Sid Vicious sneer]
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 26, 2015 19:11:54 GMT
Yesterday Bigger harvests seemed so far away Now it looks like they are here to stay Oh I believe in the Tull way.
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Post by futureshock on Feb 26, 2015 23:49:22 GMT
I got me some seeds of magnificent cropping No GMO garbage, certified Grade A Organic Now just how to go get them all embedded, I got a tight budget and acres all rented Maybe some aliens could give me a machine That drills little holes to quickly plant seeds What the hell I'll go make one myself It can't be too difficult to mix designs off the shelf Aliens won't be here before things must be planted So I say F-you to FATE and get myself Patented.
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