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Post by nonrabbit on May 31, 2014 13:00:06 GMT
Great pics going on here
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Post by maddogfagin on May 31, 2014 13:31:26 GMT
We Roman legions wend their way Through ever widening roads of Empire Long straight tracks to new horizons, Gilded in soft-tinted campfire
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Post by ash on May 31, 2014 13:47:02 GMT
All across the Doggerland. All across before the tides.Always good to have a map
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Post by nonrabbit on May 31, 2014 14:41:51 GMT
All across the Doggerland. All across before the tides.Always good to have a map Wish there was still a bit of land betwixt Ireland and Scotland.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 31, 2014 15:05:00 GMT
Part of the Antonine wall, Bearsden, Glasgow... in a cemetery .. the wall was there first obviously. " Nearly 2,000 years ago, the Antonine Wall was the north-west frontier of the Roman Empire. Built on the orders of the Emperor Antoninus Pius in the years following AD 140, it ran for 40 Roman miles (60 km) from modern Bo’ness on the Firth of Forth to Old Kilpatrick on the River Clyde. The Antonine Wall was both a physical barrier and a symbol of the Roman Empire’s power and control. It was never a stone wall, but consisted of a turf rampart fronted by a wide and deep ditch. Forts and fortlets provided accommodation for the troops stationed on the frontier and acted as secure crossing points to control movement north and south...." They must have loved the weather in Scotland.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 31, 2014 15:39:33 GMT
Most interesting thread ever...or tied with the young Ian stuff Elmsie girl has shared.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 12, 2014 16:46:16 GMT
"Bubblegum and Google-bum"Have to admit I did wonder what "Google-bum" referred to; could be this: linkMind you it is from the Sun Newspaper . . . . .
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Post by ash on Jun 12, 2014 17:02:09 GMT
"Bubblegum and Google-bum"Have to admit I did wonder what "Google-bum" referred to; could be this: linkMind you it is from the Sun Newspaper . . . . . I can't see Ian reading the SUN some how! But you never know it could have been the only free newspaper left on a flight
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Post by bunkerfan on Jun 12, 2014 20:02:02 GMT
"Bubblegum and Google-bum"Have to admit I did wonder what "Google-bum" referred to; could be this: linkMind you it is from the Sun Newspaper . . . . . I can't see Ian reading the SUN some how! But you never know it could have been the only free newspaper left on a flight Opened on page three!
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Post by ash on Jun 13, 2014 16:49:42 GMT
I can't see Ian reading the SUN some how! But you never know it could have been the only free newspaper left on a flight Opened on page three! I said reading
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 17, 2014 12:08:08 GMT
"On the ferry, getting merry"Before the Channel Tunnel, the ferries used to ply their trade between Dover and other UK ports to the French ports of Dieppe, Calais etc., indeed many still do. Like those of us of a certain age, remembering those "hulks" from the sixties brings back the memories of rough seas, travellers being sea sick and kids running around annoying all and sundry whilst their parents either got plastered at the bar or deposited their half eaten sandwiches over the side of the boat. Oh happy days. A couple of photos of the old post war ferries - nowadays they're plush and have all the creature comforts that you'd hope for and expect. The last hovercraft that crossed the English Channel were phased out in 2000 but although they could do the crossing in around half an hour, the standard of "hospitality" was rather basic and if the Channel was rough it wasn't a mind blowing experience.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 17, 2014 14:26:33 GMT
Alfie, great in spirit, battle, on Somerset Levels left cakes a-burning.
This brings in King Alfred and the Danish invasion, the Somerset Levels or Wetlands and not far away - King Arthur and Glastonbury. Alfred was the Saxon king of Wessex in the 9th century, when the Danes were at their most aggressive, pushing further and further west and seizing the land of their Saxon rivals. After the loss of one battle Alfred, cut off from his surviving soldiers, was forced to flee into the marshy Somerset levels, hiding his identity in case of betrayal..www.information-britain.co.uk/loredetail.php?id=11According to legend Ider son of Nuth, who was one of King Arthur's knights, went to the Mount of Frogs on a quest to slay three giants who lived there The fort has been claimed as the site of the Battle of Mons Badonicus... Glastonbury Tor looking over the Somerset Levels "One of the best known (although apocryphal) stories of Alfred concerns him "burning the cakes", which has become the most enduring folk image of Alfred. The story tells that when his fortunes were at their lowest ebb Alfred sought refuge in a swineheard's hut. One day, the swineherd's wife asked him to watch over the cakes which she had placed in the oven. Alfred, proccupied with his own problems, neglected the cakes, and allowed them to burn. The earliest written version of the story can be traced back to the late 10th century Life of St Neot..." i61.images obliterated by tinypic/dm8zyx.jpg[/IMG] The Levels were invaded only last year by water - changes in our climate that could one day force people to start wandering....again.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jun 18, 2014 9:58:26 GMT
Anyone else get the 'dig' in New Blood Old Veins? Time to visit fresher places, don't be fearful, we'll join the clan.i60.images obliterated by tinypic/vpxjc5.jpg[/IMG] i62.images obliterated by tinypic/r2tg29.jpg[/IMG]
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 18, 2014 16:37:50 GMT
It's not just the Brits who look for familiar food in Spain...I remember a huge sign in a Spanish restaraunt assuring German tourists: Wir Sprechen Wurst !
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 18, 2014 16:41:08 GMT
And Ian gives credit too...the guy with Bermuda shorts, white socks, sandals and a camera around his sunburned neck has a smile in his soulful heart cuz he has some Charlie Parker albums at home and secretly 'digs' New York City...or Kansas City for 'The Bird' !
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 24, 2014 11:22:34 GMT
Pizza palace, burger kingdom Cocaine cola, nylon stockings Playboy, Newsweek, Time and Life G.I. Joe, spam fritter shocking
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 1, 2014 10:22:37 GMT
The legend that is "The Commander" from the Message To Love - Isle Of Wight footage from 1970. A roll model, in part, for Ernest T. Parritt (1865 -1928) or Gerald Bostock (in his later years) perhaps ?
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 25, 2014 9:11:56 GMT
There's quite a dark verse (at the end) of After These Wars that contrasts with the positive upbeat verses at the start; "Divest ourselves of glowing mantle, mantle of old Britain Great. Bit part cast in Hollywood,ripe old Thespian,tolerated. World-weary ham upon the stage, evergreen but over-rated." I think that's a great description of GB and one of the best lyrics in HE. I presume he means, literally after the wars and not now? i62.images obliterated by tinypic/2qtire0.jpg[/IMG]
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Post by steelmonkey on Aug 25, 2014 14:56:54 GMT
That's the thing about the decline of the British Empire....you all pretend the end of colonization is right and good but deep in your secret little hearts you miss running the place. Pity the leaders of my country refuse to learn what can go wrong when you set yourself up as boss of the world.
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 25, 2014 16:01:10 GMT
That's the thing about the decline of the British Empire....you all pretend the end of colonization is right and good but deep in your secret little hearts you miss running the place. Pity the leaders of my country refuse to learn what can go wrong when you set yourself up as boss of the world. If one believes the conspiracy theories on the subject (Bilderberg Group etc etc) then the following is quite interesting. Seems it doesn't matter what side of the political divide (left or right) one belives in, they're all in it together The club [Bilderberg Group] has been accused of trying to form a New World Order, made up of the leaders of banks, multi-national corporations and countries who are invited to the meetings every year.
Some right-wing figures and activists have accused Bilderberg of trying to impose a world government and planned economy across the globe, which they strenuously deny.
Former Labour politician Denis Healey, who helped found the group, said: "To say we are striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair.
"Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless.
"So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."Wikipedia has this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 4, 2014 8:47:36 GMT
Wonder what aspects of academia his new album will take us into? This morning I've been mostly researching medieval academic dress. Is it just me? Meliora SequamurMortarboard, gown, hood and lace... The lace word aroused my curiosity. I thought it might be a random reference to the early religious origins of medieval education however I now believe that it is a specific reference to the lace trimming around the academic gown known as a "gimp" But my fellow students of Anderson literature, all this is to point those who may be interested in a fascinating page with beautiful illustrations of early books and manuscripts from Oxford University* which has a very Homo Erraticus vibe. i59.images obliterated by tinypic/wgruqc.jpg[/IMG] i60.images obliterated by tinypic/2cpzyp5.jpg[/IMG] (love the bookmark) www.prbm.com/interest/oxford.phpUK's oldest university
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Post by nonrabbit on Sept 12, 2014 8:25:11 GMT
The first few lines (maybe more) of The Engineer have a Journeyman feel.
All along the new straight track we plough the old fields under. Seven good feet and a quarter inch, broad rails to steal the thunder. 100 picks in '36sent navvies to meet their maker as black Box Tunnel worms it way past the Company undertaker.
Spine-tingling railway sleepers Sleepy houses lying four-square and firm Orange beams divide the darkness Rumbling fit to turn the waking worm. Sliding through Victorian tunnels where green moss oozes from the pores. Dull echoes from the wet embankments Battlefield allotments. Fresh open sores.
It does to me...
The Navvie
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 12, 2014 16:08:16 GMT
Those songs are absolute cousins...if not siblings.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 18, 2014 9:14:46 GMT
17 September 2014 Europeans drawn from three ancient 'tribes'By Paul Rincon, Science editor, BBC News website The modern European gene pool was formed when three ancient populations mixed within the last 7,000 years, Nature journal reports. Blue-eyed, swarthy hunters mingled with brown-eyed, pale skinned farmers as the latter swept into Europe from the Near East. But another, mysterious population with Siberian affinities also contributed to the genetic landscape of the continent. www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29213892And onwards to Doggerland
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 23, 2014 10:24:34 GMT
Brunel's Great Western Railway structures uncovered22 September 2014 Remnants of buildings built by the engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel have been uncovered during work on London's £14.8bn Crossrail project. The discovery, near Paddington, includes the foundations of an engine shed, a workshop and train-turntables, built as part of the Great Western Railway which saw steam trains first run through the area in 1838. BBC London's transport correspondent Tom Edwards spoke to Jay Carver, from Crossrail, and Andy Savage from the Railway Heritage Trust. Some of the archive pictures are courtesy of the Great Western Trust. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29317233
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 10, 2015 11:26:12 GMT
We've spent well-nigh a year now exploring the possible influences and meaning s to the lyrics and lo and behold a huge chunk of them were sitting right under our noses or to be more precise under Ian’s nose.. very close to home. The Wiltshire council website has a very interesting history section of the area. history.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getcom.php?id=164 scroll down to "thumbnail history" Turnpike Inn – Minetyi58.images obliterated by tinypic/30hopk9.jpg[/IMG] “The Turnpike Pub was a reminder of the turnpike roads, created locally in 1755. There were three toll cottages in Minety. It has been said that the local doctor in the early part of the century used to jump his horse over the toll gave and avoid paying the toll. The Railway Hotel, later called the White Horse, is now the Vale of the White Horse. It was a purpose built station inn near the railway station and had been built by 1853. It was three stories high with a floor for travellers at the top, a 'navvies' (workmen's) floor below and goods storage at the bottom…” “The Malmesbury to Cricklade Road runs through Minety and was the main coach route from Bristol to Oxford and London. It was turnpiked in 1755/6 to 1876. The Common turnpike stood at the junction of Malmesbury Road and Silver Street. The Minety Station turnpike (now called Swiss Cottage) was on Malmesbury Road to the east. There was an 'Old Tollhouse' at the junction on Flisteridge…” Also – possible influence on the ecclesiastical/taxes influence on Puer Fox?“Ethelwulf, King of the West Saxons, granted land to Malmesbury Abbey in 844. In the early 1100s Henry I gave Minety to Cirencester Abbey. The Abbey's rights were confirmed by Richard I and the abbots' acquired more land in the 13th and 14th centuries. There were disputes between the Crown and the Abbey over taxing tenants during this time (in 1313 there were 48 households of taxpayers, in 1327-29, 1546-18)..” That link is definitely worth a look – there’s probably more links to the album.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 10, 2015 11:33:04 GMT
His home/s, the history and feel of the areas that he has lived in throughout his life has had a huge influence in his work.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 10, 2015 15:12:39 GMT
His home/s, the history and feel of the areas that he has lived in throughout his life has had a huge influence in his work. Well said. Ian gets many ideas from his surroundings which makes him very relevant. At times I think he tries to explain the universe as a whole with these concept albums.
The next chapter of music and lyrics will be another great surprise in his legacy. I always expect the unexpected from Ian Anderson...
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 3, 2015 16:43:07 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Mar 9, 2015 9:01:54 GMT
This was on Sky the other night.
"All across the Doggerland All across before the tides Across with boar and elk and wolves Take the high lands near and wide"
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